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BradGuth

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Nov 13, 2007, 1:19:19 PM11/13/07
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On Nov 13, 6:34 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

That's absolutely right, however China is not exactly sitting on their
extremely wise old butts, are they.
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BradGuth

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Nov 13, 2007, 1:29:43 PM11/13/07
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BTW, notice how extremely dark and otherwise somewhat average coal
like 0.11 or slightly darker albedo that our extremely dusty old moon
really is, as having been clearly imaged within the very same FOV and
illuminated by the very same raw solar spectrum that's unavoidably
skewed by the excess amount of those violet and UV photons.

Imagine how much brighter than Earth the little pixel speck worth of
Venus is going to look.
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BradGuth

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Nov 14, 2007, 10:29:25 AM11/14/07
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> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!


"Japan First Back To The Moon!" / kT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/f38a85929879b6a0

That topic entro is absolutely right, at least first back other than
Russian or those of our various lunar orbital missions, however China


is not exactly sitting on their extremely wise old butts, are they.

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html

Besides the matter of JAXA/NHK having only turned on their HDTV color
pixels as for those of Earth (adjusting gamma to 4.0 alone gives us
that proof, or otherwise by simply replacing their black with most any
other color), though just for taking notice as to how extremely dark
and otherwise somewhat average coal like 0.11 albedo or actually of a
slightly sooty darker kind of dusty soft lunar terrain albedo, that
which our extremely dusty and electrostatic charged moon really is, as
having been so clearly JAXA/HVTV imaged w/o color saturations within
the very same FOV, as well as having been illuminated by the very same
raw solar spectrum that's unavoidably skewed by the unfiltered excess
amount of those violet and UV photons which CCDs are naturally
extremely sensitive to.

Now then, do we see anything of that naked lunar terrain that's
looking as though being the least bit NASA/Apollo 0.65~0.075 albedo
worthy, like a certain guano island as having been xenon arc lamp
spectrum illuminated and otherwise physically modified in order to
suit the supposed moon look on behalf of those hocus-pocus Apollo
landings? (silly question, as I didn't think so)

Now try to imagine how much brighter than Earth those little violet
color skewed pixels worth of Venus are going to look. Actually, with
the HDTV's far better than Kodak film DR(dynamic range) is why the
likes of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn should also become part of those
future JAXA/KAGUYA(SELENE) obtained images, along with a few of those
most bright of background stars unless having been intentionally
spectrum filtered out or PhotoShop removed. With a proper optical
spectrum filter is where we'll get to see the true deep golden
brownish color of our moon, along with certain other raw secondary/
recoil photons of those cosmic mineral elements which should become
downright interesting, even though color skewed unless via earthshine
because, there's such a great deal of secondary/recoil UV that'll
always tend to saturate into a somewhat bluish or violet hue or tint.

And to think that there's so much more of the truth to come via JAXA/
KAGUYA(SELENE), as well as from whatever China can uncover is just
around the very next corner.
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Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Nov 14, 2007, 8:08:46 PM11/14/07
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On Nov 13, 6:34 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

What a stupid topic (especially for anthing of sci.space.history):
"Paul Tibbits, pilot of "Enola Gay", dead at 92"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/fd9b5fabab61bdf8?scoring=d&

And of most every pro-American applied damage control as having
contributed subtopics within that original topic of being in favor of
nuking Japs instead of taking out those nasty Third Reich Yids is
simply pathetic, as well as a darn good example of what absolute scum
of the Earth has always been in charge of usenet.

No wonder the likes of Hitler got so far on so little, and now we're
headed for WWIII.

Therefore the brown-nosed clowns of the mainstream status quo take
front stage once again and again, just the way Yids like it.

Meanwhile, the taking of our moon by the honest efforts of Japan,
China and soon enough India is being as much as usenet possible
ignored and/or banished.
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Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Nov 15, 2007, 3:04:22 AM11/15/07
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And because I'm still such a nice guy, we have this following
contribution by our very own "kT", but notice how all the usenet
lights tend to go out whenever there's another not so insignificant
speck of truth to behold.

I believe that topic entro is absolutely right on the money, at least
Japan being of the first other than Russian or those of our various


lunar orbital missions, however China is not exactly sitting on their
extremely wise old butts, are they.

Here's the latest HDTV images, except having those moon surface
saturations of somewhat badly skewed color fully removed. In other
words, our moon is getting depicted as entirely color blocked, as
limited to gray-sacle, and only Earth is getting artificially
accommodated in full living color.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/img/20071113_kaguya_01l.jpg
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/img/20071113_kaguya_02l.jpg

Here's those unfiltered original images of off-color saturation
imposed tint, via all of that pesky secondary or recoil worth of such
a bluish/violet hue look-see at our naked moon (images 01 ~ 13):
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071021_kaguya_01.jpg
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071021_kaguya_03.jpg
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071021_kaguya_05.jpg
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071021_kaguya_10.jpg
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071021_kaguya_11.jpg

Besides the matter of JAXA/NHK having only turned on their HDTV color

pixels as for accommodating those pixels of Earth (adjusting gamma to
4x alone gives us that sort of proof, or otherwise by simply replacing
their image black with most any other color), though it's still every
bit worth an as-is look-see for taking notice as to how extremely dark
and otherwise somewhat of an average coal like 0.11 albedo or actually
of a slightly sooty darker kind of dusty deep soft lunar terrain of
such minimal albedo, meaning that it's very poorly reflective of the
visible spectrum, as otherwise correctly representing that which our
extremely cosmic dusty and electrostatic charged moon really is, as
well as for having been so clearly HVTV imaged w/o those pesky color
saturations except for their accommodating within the very same HDTV
FOV as hosting a very colorful Earth, as having been illuminated by
the very same raw solar spectrum that has unavoidably skewed the moon
itself by the unfiltered and subsequent excess amounts of those violet
and UV photons, of which CCDs are by rights extremely sensitive to.

Now then, and I'm quite honestly serious about this next part; do we


see anything of that naked lunar terrain that's looking as though

being the least bit NASA/Apollo (65%~75% reflective) 0.65~0.075 albedo
worthy, as though much like a certain guano island as having been


xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated and otherwise physically modified

in order to suit their supposed moon look, on behalf of those hocus-


pocus Apollo landings? (silly question, as I didn't think so)

Now try to further imagine how much brighter than Earth those little


violet color skewed pixels worth of Venus are going to look.
Actually, with the HDTV's far better than Kodak film DR(dynamic range)
is why the likes of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn should also become part
of those future JAXA/KAGUYA(SELENE) obtained images, along with a few
of those most bright of background stars unless having been

intentionally spectrum filtered out or subsequently PhotoShop
removed. With a proper optical spectrum filter (of which KAGUYA may
not have to work with) is where we'll get to see the true deep golden


brownish color of our moon, along with certain other raw secondary/

recoil photons of those cosmic and local deposited mineral elements


which should become downright interesting, even though color skewed
unless via earthshine because, there's such a great deal of secondary/

recoil UV that'll always tend to saturate most everything into giving
us that somewhat purple/bluish or violet hue or weird tint.

And to think that there's so much more of the truth to come via JAXA/

KAGUYA(SELENE) once those full color spectrum images of the moon are
properly adjusted for their more natural hew saturations, plus those
other instruments start reporting their science data, as well as from
whatever China can uncover and share is just around the very next
corner.
--
Brad Guth

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Nov 15, 2007, 4:09:27 PM11/15/07
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:34:54 -0600, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> puked:

>http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
>Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

Awesome.
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BradGuth

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Nov 16, 2007, 10:56:52 AM11/16/07
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Awesome is right.

Did you notice how they'd turned off or rather having excluded any
color saturation of the moon itself, as allowing only those pixels of
Earth being in full color. There's actually a perfectly good reason
for doing that.

If you have a photo processing bit of software, I can tell you what to
look for that's so interesting as to their mission and of its HDTV
imaging, as having to deal with all of that pesky UV, near UV and
violet spectrum of raw solar energy.
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Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Nov 16, 2007, 11:53:37 AM11/16/07
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On Nov 13, 6:34 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

China and Japan not taking another NASA no for an answer.

Qiute oddly there's hardly an honest Usenet word on behalf of the
Chinese moon mission that's closing in on what Japan has as an ongoing
3-satellite observation and science gathering process, that'll each
pick up the slack where the previous US and Russian missions left off.

However, once again and again, it's perfectly clear that our NASA/
Apollo brown-nosed clowns are running their very own Usenet of danmage-
control infomercials fully amock, all because of those original NASA/
Apollo lies and subsequent denials of their being in denial is simply
all too Hitler and/or GW Bush like.

And only because I'm still such a nice guy, we have this following
insignificant contribution by our very own "kT", but we should take
further notice as to how all the usenet lights tend to go out whenever
there's another not so insignificant speck of truth about our moon to
behold.

I believe that basic though unusually simple topic entro by kT is


absolutely right on the money, at least Japan being of the first other
than Russian or those of our various lunar orbital missions, however
China is not exactly sitting on their extremely wise old butts, are
they.

Here's the latest HDTV images, except for having those moon surface


saturations of somewhat badly skewed color fully removed. In other

words, our moon is getting HDTV depicted as entirely color blind, as

Here's those previously unfiltered original images of the off-color


saturation imposed tint, via all of that pesky secondary or recoil

worth of such a bluish/violet hue look-see at our naked and thus
unavoidably reactive moon (images 01 ~ 13):

Besides the matter of JAXA/NHK having only turned on their HDTV color

pixels as for accommodating those selected pixels of Earth (adjusting


gamma to 4x alone gives us that sort of proof, or otherwise by simply
replacing their image black with most any other color), though it's
still every bit worth an as-is look-see for taking notice as to how
extremely dark and otherwise somewhat of an average coal like 0.11
albedo or actually of a slightly sooty darker kind of dusty deep soft
lunar terrain of such minimal albedo, meaning that it's very poorly
reflective of the visible spectrum, as otherwise correctly
representing that which our extremely cosmic dusty and electrostatic
charged moon really is, as well as for having been so clearly HVTV
imaged w/o those pesky color saturations except for their
accommodating within the very same HDTV FOV as hosting a very colorful
Earth, as having been illuminated by the very same raw solar spectrum
that has unavoidably skewed the moon itself by the unfiltered and
subsequent excess amounts of those violet and UV photons, of which
CCDs are by rights extremely sensitive to.

Now then, and I'm quite honestly serious about this next part; do we
see anything of that naked lunar terrain that's looking as though
being the least bit NASA/Apollo (65%~75% reflective) 0.65~0.075 albedo

worthy, as though looking much like a certain guano island as having


been xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated and otherwise physically
modified in order to suit their supposed moon look, on behalf of those

hocus-pocus Apollo landings? (silly question, as I didn't think so)

Now try to further imagine how much brighter than Earth those little
violet color skewed pixels worth of Venus are going to look.
Actually, with the HDTV's far better than Kodak film DR(dynamic range)
is why the likes of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn should also become part
of those future JAXA/KAGUYA(SELENE) obtained images, along with a few
of those most bright of background stars unless having been
intentionally spectrum filtered out or subsequently PhotoShop
removed. With a proper optical spectrum filter (of which KAGUYA may
not have to work with) is where we'll get to see the true deep golden
brownish color of our moon, along with certain other raw secondary/
recoil photons of those cosmic and local deposited mineral elements
which should become downright interesting, even though color skewed
unless via earthshine because, there's such a great deal of secondary/
recoil UV that'll always tend to saturate most everything into giving
us that somewhat purple/bluish or violet hue or weird tint.

And to think that there's going to be so much more of the truth to
come via JAXA/KAGUYA(SELENE), such as once those full color spectrum
images of the moon are properly adjusted for their more natural to the
human eye's limited hue detection worth of color saturations, plus
those other nifty instruments start reporting their science data, as

Michael Gallagher

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Nov 16, 2007, 12:49:30 PM11/16/07
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:34:54 -0600, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:

>http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
>Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

That looks so eerily like the background from the SPACE 1999 Premiere,
"Breakaway," it wasn't funny. :)

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BradGuth

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Nov 16, 2007, 2:13:47 PM11/16/07
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On Nov 16, 9:49 am, Michael Gallagher <mikejo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> That looks so eerily like the background from the SPACE 1999 Premiere,
> "Breakaway," it wasn't funny. :)

That's true, however China and Japan are clearly not taking another
NASA no for an answer, and that's why this kind of fresh and honestly
revealing look-see with further science and planetology measurements
other than pictures are being accomplished by other than our crack
NASA wizards that have to concentrate upon their keeping those semitic
butt-cracks as tight and straight as possible.

Quite oddly there's hardly an honest Usenet word on behalf of the
Chinese moon exploration mission that's closing in on what Japan has


as an ongoing 3-satellite observation and science gathering process,
that'll each pick up the slack where the previous US and Russian

missions of mostly hocus pocus disinformation and/or evidence
exclusion left off.

However, once again and again, it's perfectly clear that our NASA/

Apollo brown-nosed clowns are running their very own Usenet of damage-


control infomercials fully amock, all because of those original NASA/

Apollo lies and subsequent denials of their being in denial, is simply


all too Hitler and/or GW Bush like.

And only because I'm still such a nice guy is why we even have this
following insignificant contribution by our very own "kT". But we
should take a little further notice as to how all the usenet lights


tend to go out whenever there's another not so insignificant speck of

truth about our moon to behold, especially when such doesn't in any
way support as to what those as "having the right stuff" were tilling
us to believe.

"Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!"

I believe that basic though unusually simple topic entro by kT is

Now then, and I'm being quite honestly serious about this next part;

BradGuth

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Nov 17, 2007, 12:15:30 AM11/17/07
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That's odd, in that we have none of the usual NASA/Apollo damage-
control rusemasters doing their warm and fuzzy thing of covering their
butts. Perhaps Japan and China are not going to play by those same
pagan and/or pretend atheist rules of hocus-pocus and cover thy own
infomercial spewing butts until Hell freezes over and them pigs fly.
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Brad Guth

Michael Gallagher

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Nov 18, 2007, 1:30:07 PM11/18/07
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:

>.... do we see anything of that naked lunar terrain that's looking as


>though being the least bit NASA/Apollo (65%~75% reflective) 0.65~0.075

>albedo worthy ....

Yes. Apart from the color -- which could be an artifiact of the
camera --- it doesn't look too different from the images returned from
the Moon by Apollo. I just looked in one of the books I have.

As to how bright the Moon is or isnt, go outside on a full Moon. It
looks pretty bright to me. :p

Now please go and take your meds.

Scott Hedrick

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Nov 18, 2007, 6:17:27 PM11/18/07
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"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:zBi_i.8$IE...@newsfe05.lga...
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html

>
> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!

Actually, that would be *Lunar Prospector*, which had a strong impact on
lunar science.


BradGuth

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Nov 19, 2007, 9:37:46 AM11/19/07
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On Nov 18, 10:30 am, Michael Gallagher <mikejo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >.... do we see anything of that naked lunar terrain that's looking as
> >though being the least bit NASA/Apollo (65%~75% reflective) 0.65~0.075
> >albedo worthy ....
>
> Yes. Apart from the color -- which could be an artifiact of the
> camera --- it doesn't look too different from the images returned from
> the Moon by Apollo. I just looked in one of the books I have.
>
> As to how bright the Moon is or isnt, go outside on a full Moon. It
> looks pretty bright to me. :p
>
> Now please go and take your meds.

Coal offers an albedo of 0.1, as 10% reflective of the visual
spectrum. and that's pretty darn close to what the average reflective
surface of our moon really is, although actually having a somewhat
deep golden brownish hue or tint that only gets terribly color skewed
to the unfiltered Kodak eye, or especially to the wider spectrum
sensitive CCD eye by all of that raw photon saturation and secondary/
recoil worth of UV, near UV plus those of a violet worth of solar
photons.

BTW, there's actual NASA obtained images of our moon and Earth within
the exact same frame that proves I'm 100% correct. Those images have
been posted for more than a decade.

Sorry to hear that you're such an obvious bigot, and a liar to boot.
--
Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Nov 23, 2007, 2:20:52 AM11/23/07
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On Nov 13, 6:34 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
>
> Heh heh heh ... Go JAXA! Go Japan!


Outside of Russia and our NASA, Japan is first and China is a close
second "back to the moon", and thus far with better technology than
anything within our NASA or DoD inventory. Perhaps we americans are
being treated much like Jesus Christ on a stick, in as much as go
figure as to how we're being so screwed by our own kind.

In addition to JAXA's Selene/KAGUYA mission doing exactly as planned
(pulling in those nifty 10 meter/pixel images and lots more to come),
it seems there's good old China that's acting extremely wise and fully
in charge of accomplishing their task of mapping and thus further
exploring the potential of our moon, with future intentions of their
robotically mining for those raw elements, including He3. Perhaps if
our moon is in any way hollow or with geode pockets of good enough
volume for accommodating a few brave humans, whereas China and quite
possibly their partnerships with Japan and India will seriously pay
off, while we're stuck with suppressing a few too many pissed off
Muslims, as well as our having to pay through the nose for the likes
of terrestrial fossil, synfuels and even yellowcake.

Chang'e 1 sends back moon picture
http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/232774.htm

China's first lunar probe Chang'e 1 sent back its first moon picture
on Tuesday as scheduled, the National Space Administration has said.

Experts will later adjust cameras on the satellite according to the
moon picture's quality to ensure following photos are clear and
accurate, the Shaanxi-based West China City Daily reported today.

The first moon photo will be made public next week, the report cited
the administration as saying.

Tests on the orbiter's equipment showed that it is working normally
and in good condition, the administration said.

The probe had orbited the moon 168 times by 2 pm yesterday, the
administration said.

More tests will be conducted in the next few days that will help
ensure data transmissions continue. The satellite has gone through a
number of tests since it entered the moon's orbit on November 7.
Chang'e 1's position was adjusted on Monday so its probing equipment
faced the moon.

The satellite, named after a mythical Chinese goddess who flew to the
moon, is supposed to stay 200 km above the moon's surface to carry out
scientific explorations for one year.

Cameras on the 2,350-kilogram satellite are expected to photograph
every inch of the moon's surface by mid January.

The orbiter is expected to analyze the chemical and mineral
composition of the lunar surface and send data back to the Earth so
that scientists can better understand the moon's environment, Li
Guoping, the administration's spokesman, said in earlier reports.

Chang'e 1 blasted off on a Long March 3A carrier rocket on October 24
from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan Province, marking
the first step of China's ambitious 10-year moon plan, which will lead
to a moon landing and launch of a moon rover around 2012.

In the third phase, scheduled for 2017, another rover will land on the
moon and return to earth with lunar soil and stone samples for
scientific research.

In 2003, China became only the third country in the world after the
United States and Russia to send a human into orbit.

(Shanghai Daily November 22, 2007)
-

Perhaps China will have little if any perpetrated cold-war need of
such faith-based cloak and dagger distorting or excluding of the
truth, or otherwise holding back their new and improved science data
about our naked, physically dark, somewhat salty and unavoidably
reactive/anticathode moon that has such an electrostatic dusty surface
of unusual mascon considerations, as well as being continually
saturated in cosmic gamma and X-rays (especially by day when it's also
double IR roasting everything in sight), within such a nearly zero
atmospheric density means having insignificant if any attenuation from
all of that surrounding gauntlet of primary and secondary/recoil
radiation, not to mention the lack of moderating the velocity of
incoming physical debris that's arriving from all directions, that's
only speeding up prior to whatever near-miss or likely impact.

Too bad that our NASA team of supposed wizards without their original
semitic Third Reich team can't even manage to establish a station-
keeping platform of science instruments, as interactively halo orbited
within the moon's L1 (robotic Clarke Station), however it is most
likely that Japan, China or India should not have such difficulties.
Of course, the most educated of Americans don't even know of what or
where the moon's L1 is, much less having any clue as to it's
technological value as a space depot/gateway in addition to the
absolutely terrific science improvements on behalf of Earth and moon
planetology, and that's not to mention those improved detections,
trackings and best possible management of NEOs as potential Earth
killers.
--
Brad Guth

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