Science Disproves Evolution
Pah...@gmail.com
When the same complex capability is found in unrelated organisms but
not in their alleged evolutionary ancestors, evolutionists say that a
common need caused identical complexities to evolve. They call this
convergent evolution.
For example, wings and flight occur in some birds, insects, and
mammals (bats). Pterosaurs, an extinct reptile, also had wings and
could fly. These capabilities have not been found in any of their
alleged common ancestors. Other examples of convergent evolution are
the three tiny bones in the ears of mammals: the stapes, incus, and
malleus. Their complex arrangement and precise fit give mammals the
unique ability to hear a wide range of sounds. Evolutionists say that
those bones evolved from bones in a reptile’s jaw. If so, the process
must have occurred at least twice (a)—but left no known transitional
fossils. How did the transitional organisms between reptiles and
mammals hear during those millions of years (b)? Without the ability
to hear, survival—and reptile-to-mammal evolution—would cease.
Concluding that a miracle—or any extremely unlikely event—happened
once requires strong evidence or faith; claiming that a similar
“miracle” happened repeatedly requires either incredible blind faith
or a cause common to each event, such as a common designer.
a. “... the definitive mammalian middle ear evolved independently in
living monotremes and therians (marsupials and placentals).” Thomas
H. Rich et al., “Independent Origins of Middle Ear Bones in Monotremes
and Therians,” Science, Vol. 307, 11 February 2005, p. 910.
“Because of the complexity of the bone arrangement, some scientists
have argued that the innovation arose just once—in a common ancestor
of the three mammalian groups. Now, analyses of a jawbone from a
specimen of Teinolophos trusleri, a shrew-size creature that lived in
Australia about 115 million years ago, have dealt a blow to that
notion.” Sid Perkins, “Groovy Bones,” Science News, Vol. 167, 12
February 2005, p. 100.
b. Also, for mammals to hear also requires the organ of Corti and
complex “wiring” in the brain. No known reptile (the supposed ancestor
of mammals), living or fossil, has anything resembling this amazing
organ.
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences21.html#wp1612912
Mike Jr.
Your argument is "Look how unlikely X is". How do you know how likely
or unlikely such a things might be? Your common sense? If that is
the case then I advise staying away from quantum mechanics.
I don't think that you are going to prove faith via science. Nor do I
think that faith is challenged by science. Is it man's place to limit
how God can operate? IMHO, God wasn't concerned with communicating
science when he inspired the story of Genesis. Maybe you shouldn't be
either when you read it.
--Mike Jr
Dirk Van de moortel
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> Convergent Evolution or Intelligent Design? 1
>
> When the same complex capability is found in unrelated organisms but
> not in their alleged evolutionary ancestors, evolutionists say that a
> common need caused identical complexities to evolve. They call this
> convergent evolution.
>
> For example, wings and flight occur in some birds, insects, and
> mammals (bats). Pterosaurs, an extinct reptile, also had wings and
> could fly. These capabilities have not been found in any of their
> alleged common ancestors. Other examples of convergent evolution are
> the three tiny bones in the ears of mammals: the stapes, incus, and
> malleus. Their complex arrangement and precise fit give mammals the
> unique ability to hear a wide range of sounds. Evolutionists say that
> those bones evolved from bones in a reptile’s jaw. If so, the process
> must have occurred at least twice (a)—but left no known transitional
> fossils. How did the transitional organisms between reptiles and
> mammals hear during those millions of years (b)? Without the ability
> to hear, survival—and reptile-to-mammal evolution—would cease.
>
> Concluding that a miracle—or any extremely unlikely event—happened
> once requires strong evidence or faith;
No, imbecile, it requires a big pool and a lot of time.
And we had both.
> claiming that a similar
> “miracle” happened repeatedly requires either incredible blind faith
> or a cause common to each event, such as a common designer.
No, imbecile, it requires the same big pool and the same
lot of time.
This is off-topic in sci.physics - followup to more appropriate group.
Dirk Vdm
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Sam Wormley
>
> When the same complex capability is found in unrelated organisms but
> not in their alleged evolutionary ancestors, evolutionists say that a
> common need caused identical complexities to evolve. They call this
> convergent evolution.
>
You need to do some self education about what Darwinian evolution
is and is not.
carlip...@physics.ucdavis.edu
dealt with.
Pah...@gmail.com wrote:
> Convergent Evolution or Intelligent Design? 1
> When the same complex capability is found in unrelated organisms but
> not in their alleged evolutionary ancestors, evolutionists say that a
> common need caused identical complexities to evolve. They call this
> convergent evolution.
> For example, wings and flight occur in some birds, insects, and
> mammals (bats). Pterosaurs, an extinct reptile, also had wings and
> could fly. These capabilities have not been found in any of their
> alleged common ancestors. Other examples of convergent evolution are
> the three tiny bones in the ears of mammals: the stapes, incus, and
> malleus. Their complex arrangement and precise fit give mammals the
> unique ability to hear a wide range of sounds. Evolutionists say that
> those bones evolved from bones in a reptile???s jaw. If so, the process
> must have occurred at least twice (a)???but left no known transitional
> fossils. How did the transitional organisms between reptiles and
> mammals hear during those millions of years (b)? Without the ability
> to hear, survival???and reptile-to-mammal evolution???would cease.
That's simply not true. See
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/therapsd.htm
for example. You might also want to look at chapter 10 of Neil Shubin's
new book, _Your Inner Fish_. (Read the rest of it while you're at it.)
> Concluding that a miracle???or any extremely unlikely event???happened
> once requires strong evidence or faith; claiming that a similar
> ???miracle??? happened repeatedly requires either incredible blind faith
> or a cause common to each event, such as a common designer.
> a. ???... the definitive mammalian middle ear evolved independently in
> living monotremes and therians (marsupials and placentals).??? Thomas
> H. Rich et al., ???Independent Origins of Middle Ear Bones in Monotremes
> and Therians,??? Science, Vol. 307, 11 February 2005, p. 910.
> ???Because of the complexity of the bone arrangement, some scientists
> have argued that the innovation arose just once???in a common ancestor
> of the three mammalian groups. Now, analyses of a jawbone from a
> specimen of Teinolophos trusleri, a shrew-size creature that lived in
> Australia about 115 million years ago, have dealt a blow to that
> notion.??? Sid Perkins, ???Groovy Bones,??? Science News, Vol. 167, 12
> February 2005, p. 100.
> b. Also, for mammals to hear also requires the organ of Corti and
> complex ???wiring??? in the brain. No known reptile (the supposed ancestor
> of mammals), living or fossil, has anything resembling this amazing
> organ.
> http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences21.html#wp1612912
Steve Carlip