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the 3rd Man

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Okay...posting ridiculous misadventures from LymeNUT is getting kind
of hopelessly redundant...but this one...it's kind of approaching an
art form...paws and effect, I guess...watch where you step...

P1:Some dogs have tails.

P2: My dog has a tail.
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C: My dog is some dog!

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4 dogs have died shortly after playing with my dog. one had a seizure
the same day and never came out of it (already had seizure disorder,
but was on meds)

one dog got lyme, but it was a slower death and died of kidney
failure.

one dog was old and sick don't know what he died of. the neighbors dog
died a week after playing with her, also don't know what

are there any TBI or other diseases dogs get that could be making us
sick and killing other dogs? her vet doesn't believe in lyme, thinks
its over-dx and over-tx
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wrotek
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posted 23 February, 2008 04:39 PM
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And Your dog is holding ?
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just don
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Member # 1129

posted 23 February, 2008 04:39 PM
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Sounds like a coincidence to ME!!!

But wanted to say,,,think its time to find a NEW vet!! This one sounds
awful outdated!!

These dogs ALL experienced different sx and reasons for dieing,,,all
of which were beyond YOUR control!!

AND they ALL could have had lyme,,, all previous to playing with
yours. playing is NOT transmission!! Ask Merry for a better vet
reccomendation!!

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just don

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tailz
Frequent Contributor
Member # 10014

posted 23 February, 2008 04:52 PM
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It may not just be the Lyme. How many cell phone towers do you have
around you?

www.antennasearch.com

My pets were dropping like flies at my last address, and three
consecutive male kittens either died or almost died at a young age.

The first died of fatty liver disease - age 2.

The second had FIP (a fatal corona virus) - age 2.

The third almost died (twice) of renal failure - age 2, and again last
spring.

One of our hamsters developed a tumor so large he had to drag it to
eat.

My next-door neighbor's kid was born with Down Syndrome, and later
developed childhood leukemia.

A young boy two houses from me had a stroke - no cause ever found.

A woman across the street from me was seeing a neuro because she
couldn't smell anymore.

Every one of my pets had some sort of chronic illness at a young age
except my oldest cat (bladder stones, unexplained elevated liver
enzymes, enlarged heart/congestive heart failure, recurrent
infections), and I always thought cats at least were supposed to live
to be at least 15.

Bacteria have a magnetic sense, so though it could be Lyme, I'd worry
more about radiation exposure.

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Do you have Microwave Sickness?

http://tinyurl.com/3xeju9

Mobile and Wireless: The Largest Biological Experiment Ever:

http://tinyurl.com/h7rey
http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/

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Tincup
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Member # 5829

posted 23 February, 2008 06:01 PM
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I'm with Just Don. Time to find a new vet!

Also.. Ehrlichiosis.. and now possibly this new strain of RMSF found
in Maryland may be affecting the neighborhood pets.

The symptoms sound as if they could be the problem.. but I can not say
that with any "for sure" about it.. not at all. Just a thought.

PS. Might want to call your vet and leave a message and casually ask
if they have a test for amblyommii.

Of course, the vet will have NO clue what it is.. as it was just
published... which is when you say...

"Oh, I thought you knew about the tick borne diseases in Maryland?"
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Yes, stupid arrogant people don't bring out the best in me. Why?

Because people are suffering and dying.. and so are their pets.

Forget the ticks.. beware of doctors!

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Vector-Borne and Zoonotic Diseases
Rickettsia amblyommii Infecting Amblyomma americanum Larvae

Ellen Y. Stromdahl, Mary A. Vince, Peggy M. Billingsley, Nicole A.
Dobbs, Phillip C. Williamson. Vector-Borne and Zoonotic Diseases.
February 1, 2008, 8(1): 15-24. doi:10.1089/vbz.2007.0138.


Polymerase chain reaction analysis of Amblyomma americanum adults,
nymphs, and larvae from Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD (APG), revealed a
very high prevalence of a spotted fever group (SFG) rickettsia.

Restriction fragment length polymorphism (RFLP) and sequence analysis
identified "Rickettsia amblyommii."

This organism is not yet described or well studied, and its
pathogenicity is unknown; however, investigations of the organism are
warranted because of its high prevalence in A. americanum.

This tick is extremely abundant at military training facilities in the
south, central, and Mid-Atlantic United States, and many soldiers
experience multiple concurrent tick bites.

Bites by R. amblyommii-infected A. americanum may account for rates of
SFG rickettsia seropositivity that are higher than reported rates of
Rocky Mountain spotted fever (RMSF) cases from the same location.

Seroconversion to SFG rickettsia following bites of A. americanum may
suggest that R. amblyommii is infectious in humans.

Subclinical infection in the numerous A. americanum tick bite victims
could contaminate donated blood and compromise immunodeficient
recipients.

Detection of R. amblyommii in questing A. americanum larvae suggests
transovarial transmission. The absence of R. rickettsii, the agent of
RMSF, in A. americanum may be due to transovarial interference by R.
amblyommii.

The likelihood of pathogen transmission by larvae is magnified by
their habit of mass attack. The very small size of the larvae is also
a risk factor for pathogen transmission.

High R. amblyommii prevalence in populations of A. americanum presage
co-infection with other A. americanum-borne pathogens. A. americanum
nymphs and adults from APG were found to be co-infected with R.
amblyommii and Borrelia lonestari, Ehrlichia chaffeensis and Ehrlichia
ewingii, respectively, and larval pools were infected with both R.
amblyommii and B. lonestari.

Co-infections can compound effects and complicate diagnosis of tick-
borne disease.

http://www.wms.org/Updates/STARI1_files/image003.jpg


Thanks to Looking in Canada for sharing this information.

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If you get the choice to sit it out or dance...

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I only do what the Rice Krispies tell me to do.

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merrygirl
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Member # 12041

posted 23 February, 2008 06:04 PM
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I think it is nothing to do with your dog. Did the dogs who died live
near each other?

Neighbors have been known to poison neighborhood dogs from time to
time..

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Fight or Flight!

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roro
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Member # 13383

posted 24 February, 2008 10:32 AM
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yes, my dog is still holding.

she has had two operations for crutiate ligament and was hospitalized
last year with some kind of illness that caused weight loss over a few
months, then severe diarhea & vomitting. (she was in the hospital the
same week I was)

she seems to be pretty healthy except for fatty tumors and a lump on
her back.

I know they are all different symptoms and it probably is a
coincidence, but I wonder if its possible she could be a carrier of
TBI that show diff sx in diff dogs.

only one was a neighbor. the other two lived in maryland, the 4th was
from NC.
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canbravelyme
Frequent Contributor
Member # 9785

posted 24 February, 2008 11:38 AM
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Hi Roro,

Since I put my pet on Andrographis, her fatty lumps are GOING DOWN.

I think you can do many of the Buhner Herbs for your pet:

Bloodroot (before 8AM to support Spleen, which is compromised for
beings with TBD incl. Lyme)

Stinging Nettle (Blood Cleanser)

Stephannia (Anti-Lyme)

Andrographis (Anti-Lyme)

Graviola (Not sure, but indicated)

Wormwood (Anti-Lyme: Given 4 days before full moon, Fully Moon day,
and 2 Days afterward)

There may be others. Tinctures is best.

Best wishes!

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canbravelyme

For medical advice related to Lyme disease, please see an ILADS
physician.

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Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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You really need to get a life.

cowabungabartn...@yahoo.com

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On Feb 24, 1:55�pm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Okay...posting ridiculous misadventures from LymeNUT is getting kind
> of hopelessly �redundant...but this one...it's kind of approaching an
> art form...paws and effect, I guess...watch where you step...
>
> P1:Some dogs have tails.
>
> P2: My dog has a tail.
> -----------------------------
> C: My dog is some dog!
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�---------------------------------------------------------

>
> 4 dogs have died shortly after playing with my dog. one had a seizure
> the same day and never came out of it (already had seizure disorder,
> but was on meds)
>
> one dog got lyme, but it was a slower death and died of kidney
> failure.
>
> one dog was old and sick don't know what he died of. the neighbors dog
> died a week after playing with her, also don't know what
>
> are there any TBI or other diseases dogs get that could be making us
> sick and killing other dogs? her vet doesn't believe in lyme, thinks
> its over-dx and over-tx
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 301 | From: maryland | Registered: Oct 2007 �| �IP: Logged
>
> wrotek
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 5354
>
> � posted 23 February, 2008 04:39 PM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> And Your dog is holding ?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 446 | From: Wroclaw, Poland | Registered: Mar 2004 �| �IP:
> Logged
>
> just don
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 1129
>
> � posted 23 February, 2008 04:39 PM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Sounds like a coincidence to ME!!!
>
> But wanted to say,,,think its time to find a NEW vet!! This one sounds
> awful outdated!!
>
> These dogs ALL experienced different sx and reasons for dieing,,,all
> of which were beyond YOUR control!!
>
> AND they ALL could have had lyme,,, all previous to playing with
> yours. playing is NOT transmission!! Ask Merry for a better vet
> reccomendation!!
>
> --------------------
> just don
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 2666 | From: Middle of midwest | Registered: May 2001 �| �IP:
> Logged
>
> tailz
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 10014
>
> � posted 23 February, 2008 04:52 PM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 5352 | From: The Moon | Registered: Jun 2004 �| �IP: Logged
>
> merrygirl
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 12041
>
> � posted 23 February, 2008 06:04 PM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> I think it is nothing to do with your dog. Did the dogs who died live
> near each other?
>
> Neighbors have been known to poison neighborhood dogs from time to
> time..
>
> --------------------
> Fight or Flight!
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 1464 | From: USA | Registered: May 2007 �| �IP: Logged
>
> roro
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 13383
>
> � posted 24 February, 2008 10:32 AM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> yes, my dog is still holding.
>
> she has had two operations for crutiate ligament and was hospitalized
> last year with some kind of illness that caused weight loss over a few
> months, then severe diarhea & vomitting. (she was in the hospital the
> same week I was)
>
> she seems to be pretty healthy except for fatty tumors and a lump on
> her back.
>
> I know they are all different symptoms and it probably is a
> coincidence, but I wonder if its possible she could be a carrier of
> TBI that show diff sx in diff dogs.
>
> only one was a neighbor. the other two lived in maryland, the 4th was
> from NC.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 301 | From: maryland | Registered: Oct 2007 �| �IP: Logged
>
> canbravelyme
> Frequent Contributor
> Member # 9785
>
> � posted 24 February, 2008 11:38 AM
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Hi Roro,
>
> Since I put my pet on Andrographis, her fatty lumps are GOING DOWN.
>
> I think you can do many of the Buhner Herbs for your pet:
>
> Bloodroot (before 8AM to support Spleen, which is compromised for
> beings with TBD incl. Lyme)
>
> Stinging Nettle (Blood Cleanser)
>
> Stephannia (Anti-Lyme)
>
> Andrographis (Anti-Lyme)
>
> Graviola (Not sure, but indicated)
>
> Wormwood (Anti-Lyme: Given 4 days before full moon, Fully Moon day,
> and 2 Days afterward)
>
> There may be others. Tinctures is best.
>
> Best wishes!
>
> --------------------
> canbravelyme
>
> For medical advice related to Lyme disease, please see an ILADS
> physician.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----

> Posts: 541 | From: Up North | Registered: Aug 2006 �| �IP: Logged

chuck you are such a pos

Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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24 de fev. de 2008, 22:43:0024/02/2008
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cowabungabartn...@yahoo.com

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up chuck

Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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On Feb 25, 12:46 am, cowabungabartnewsgrouplea...@yahoo.com wrote:
> up chuck

ha ha...i won

eatmysho...@yahoo.com

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On Feb 25, 12:46�am, cowabungabartnewsgrouplea...@yahoo.com wrote:
> up chuck

up chuck

Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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zzzzzzzzzzz

eatmysho...@yahoo.com

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up chuck you obsessive freak

Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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I have you trained like a dog. Now go fetch

cowabungabartn...@yahoo.com

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Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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Go fetch little boy

cowabungabartn...@yahoo.com

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cowabu...@yahoo.com

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Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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On

cowabungabartn...@yahoo.com

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Chuck you are so
boooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

Chuck P Adams- Newsgroup leader since 1997

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On Feb 27, 4:24 pm, cowabungabartnewsgrouplea...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Chuck you are so
> boooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

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scimedlyme...@yahoo.com

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On Feb 25, 12:46�am, cowabungabartnewsgrouplea...@yahoo.com wrote:
> up chuck

TROLL PATROL AT WORK: chuck you suck you're out of luck LOSER

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