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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 1, 2013, 8:32:00 PM4/1/13
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Orla wrote:
>
> People who have been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes are being sought to take part
> in an online research study. The aim of the study is to improve people’s self-management
> of the illness, which is a rising global epidemic.
Yes, type-2 diabetes is a "rising global epidemic."
> Sufferers of type 2 diabetes experience a huge lifestyle change, including diet, exercise
> and medication which can be very difficult to manage.
Because type-2 diabetes has not arisen because of lack of either diet,
exercise, or medication(s), we are allowed to know that these
interventions do not address the cause, which is simply overeating,
which is simply eating more than the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food.
> Adherence to diabetes self-care can bring up thoughts and feelings that are problematic
> if the person does not know how to cope with them.
The feelings of hunger are from the heart (Matthew 15:19) and are
deceptive (Jeremiah 17:9) because hunger is not a feeling. Instead,
hunger is the ability to eat real food combined with the desire to eat
real food. Neither ability nor desire are feelings. Therefore, we
prove here through logic and reason, that hunger is not a feeling. The
observation that the description of the feeling associated with hunger
vary widely is consistent with the proof that hunger is not a feeling.
Bottom line:
Your proposal to use psychological (feelings-based) approaches to help
people achieve reversal/cure of their type-2 diabetes is without
either logical or factual basis.
The absolutely only **healthy** way to achieve reversal/cure of type-2
diabetes is by losing the http://WDJW.net/VAT by holding to the right
amount, which is 32 oz of daily food and what keeps diabetics from
doing this is their "hunger is starvation" delusion.
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?
>
> People who have been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes are being sought to take part
> in an online research study. The aim of the study is to improve people’s self-management
> of the illness, which is a rising global epidemic.
Yes, type-2 diabetes is a "rising global epidemic."
> Sufferers of type 2 diabetes experience a huge lifestyle change, including diet, exercise
> and medication which can be very difficult to manage.
Because type-2 diabetes has not arisen because of lack of either diet,
exercise, or medication(s), we are allowed to know that these
interventions do not address the cause, which is simply overeating,
which is simply eating more than the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food.
> Adherence to diabetes self-care can bring up thoughts and feelings that are problematic
> if the person does not know how to cope with them.
The feelings of hunger are from the heart (Matthew 15:19) and are
deceptive (Jeremiah 17:9) because hunger is not a feeling. Instead,
hunger is the ability to eat real food combined with the desire to eat
real food. Neither ability nor desire are feelings. Therefore, we
prove here through logic and reason, that hunger is not a feeling. The
observation that the description of the feeling associated with hunger
vary widely is consistent with the proof that hunger is not a feeling.
Bottom line:
Your proposal to use psychological (feelings-based) approaches to help
people achieve reversal/cure of their type-2 diabetes is without
either logical or factual basis.
The absolutely only **healthy** way to achieve reversal/cure of type-2
diabetes is by losing the http://WDJW.net/VAT by holding to the right
amount, which is 32 oz of daily food and what keeps diabetics from
doing this is their "hunger is starvation" delusion.
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart
... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Apr 2, 2013, 7:41:19 PM4/2/13
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GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
>
> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228
Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?
Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
and
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?
9:42) death:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT
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On Apr 13, 11:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
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> Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
> undernourishment by holding to the
You've really degenerated into a good Rain Man routine, Andy. Are you
hoping to use that as a defense when they finally put you on trial?
Maybe I'll show up as a witness for the prosecution.
>
> Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
> undernourishment by holding to the
hoping to use that as a defense when they finally put you on trial?
Maybe I'll show up as a witness for the prosecution.
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