Doing the impossible is godliness (Philippians 4:13) ...

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

... instead of madness :-)

In answer to question at:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5517a58e0a6a4e18?

Laus Deo :-)

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?

[Freedom Man]

See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds, even so-called doctors?
I sure wouldn't want this LOON as my physician!

Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.

"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig

Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can but does not want to, he
is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then he is both powerless and
wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.

"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth. Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or
he doesn't exist. He is thus either impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and
evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
takes religion."
--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction." --- Blaise Pascal.

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)

"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.

"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow

"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen

"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool." - Mark
Twain

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins

"Cult today, religion tomorrow."

The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org

[jwshe...@satx.rr.com]

The Big Bang According To Atheist, Sir Fred Hoyle
by Chuck Colson

The Big Bank theory says the universe had one beginning. As an
atheist, Sir Fred Hoyle preferred to believe otherwise, and so he
resisted the evidence all of his life. He died last year at age eighty-
six.

Instead of one big bang, Hoyle postulated a series of "little pops."
His "Steady State" theory included "continuous creation." Matter
always existed, he said, and as it expands from the center of the
universe, new matter is continually created to fill the void.

The Big Bang and Hoyle's Steady State were mere abstractions, unable
to be tested. Then, in 1964, Drs. Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson of
Bell Labs encountered continuous static on certain microwave
frequencies. Rotating their antenna in a vain attempt to remove the
noise, they realized it was coming from all directions-permeating the
universe. Physicists hailed this as the first observational evidence
of the Big Bang known as "cosmic background radiation" or "the radio
echo of creation."

Penzias saw the philosophical significance in his discovery. "…(T)he
best data we have," he said, "are exactly what I would have predicted,
had I had nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms,
the Bible as a whole… (T)he creation of the universe is supported by
all the observable data astronomy has produced so far."

Even as an atheist, Hoyle recognized an amazing complexity and
precision in the universe. In his words, "A common sense
interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has
monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that
there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers
one calculates from the facts seem so overwhelming as to put this
conclusion almost beyond question."

In other words, the things that exist in the universe are so complex
and brilliantly made, that they look as if an Intelligent Designer
fine-tuned them. Mao Zedong, by the way, recognized this as well-which
is why he would never allow the Big Bang theory to be taught in China.

Today, advocates of the Big Bang think that their theory is a
substitute for God. But it's just the opposite. Hoyle rejected the Big
Bang in spite of the evidence because he knew that the Big Bang
pointed irresistibly to the existence of God.

Science historian Frederic B. Burnham observed that scientists
consider the idea that God created the universe, "a more respectable
hypothesis today than at any time in the last hundred years." Dr.
Geoffrey Burbridge, of the University of California at San Diego,
complains that many astronomers are rushing off to join what he calls
"the First Church of Christ of the Big Bang." That's a cynic's way of
acknowledging that many astronomers are being forced by their data, to
recognize the existence of a Creator-God.

Whether God created the universe through the Big Bang or some other
way, the one who did the creating demonstrated an amazing amount of
power and wisdom as he caused the formation of everything that has
been made!

As we read the obituaries about Sir Fred Hoyle, the man who named the
Big Bang, we might ask our skeptical neighbors: If there was a Big
Bang, isn't it reasonable to recognize what Hoyle did-that there
behind it a Big Brain. And might that not be the God of the Bible and
of all creation?

http://www.connectionmagazine.org/2002_05/co_colson.htm

[casey]

On May 10, 9:08 am, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> [...]

> As we read the obituaries about Sir Fred Hoyle, the man who named the
> Big Bang, we might ask our skeptical neighbors: If there was a Big
> Bang, isn't it reasonable to recognize what Hoyle did-that there
> behind it a Big Brain. And might that not be the God of the Bible and
> of all creation?

My recollection is that Sir Fred Hoyle called it the big
bang because he didn't believe in it. He believed in
a constant creation theory of the Universe.

Imagining a super human outside of space and time
created everything rather than say a physical
explanation like a multiverse or some other physical
cause is strange because all other natural things
like lightening do not need a humanoid like god to
explain them.

Then there is the issue of proving that such a god
is the same as the god of the Hebrews tribes and
which version of this god is the correct one.


>
> http://www.connectionmagazine.org/2002_05/co_colson.htm

[jwshe...@satx.rr.com]

On May 9, 6:17 pm, casey <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

"Imagining a super human outside of space and time
created everything rather than say a physical
explanation like a multiverse or some other physical
cause is strange because all other natural things
like lightening do not need a humanoid like god to
explain them. "

Think Entropy.

[linuxgal]

RedDog wrote:
> On May 10, 12:57 am, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"

> Entropy rules the universe, doesn't it, LG? :-)
>

And toddlers are Entropy's stormtroopers.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

[Catpain 'Merca]

"jwshe...@satx.rr.com" <jwshe...@satx.rr.com> wrote in news:0cc2374a-
b79a-4c59-817...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:

> The Big Bang According To Atheist,

Wrong Usenet groups. Try alt.atheism and talk.origins

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?
**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark

9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

[Ken]

`

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]