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Tom Weyer

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May 8, 2001, 10:07:34 AM5/8/01
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Hi all,

I don't know how to adjust the parameters of a pid controller with the
transfer function:

Fc(s) = Kr * ( 1 + 1/(Ti*s) + Td*s/(1+Tv*s) )
Kr: Gain
Ti: Integrator time
Td: Derivative time
Tv: Delay time

The output of a Pt2 plant which is excited by perturbation shall be
controlled to zero. The plant transfer function is:

Fp(s) = Kp/( s/w0)^2 + 2*D*s/w0 +1 )

Kp: Gain
w0: Natural frequency in rad/sec
D: Damping (Lehr)

Thank you for answers !
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Tom.


Walter Driedger

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May 10, 2001, 9:47:48 PM5/10/01
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Tom:

Tuning parameters are called that because they cannot be reliably
precalculated. That is why they are 'tuned'. That is, they are
adjusted during operation for optimum response. It is a total waste
of time to attempt to precalculate them. The reasons are these:

1 - Almost all controls math, including yours, is linear. Almost all
control systems are non-linear.

2 - The actual, physical parameters of your system are only
approximately known. They do NOT agree with the ones you are using in
your calculations.

3 - The exact nature of the disturbances your system will experience
are unknowns both in magnitude, spectral composition and point of
influence. Pure mathematics cannot handle this sort of mess.

4 - All the above will change with time in an unpredictable manner.

5 - Every application has its own definition of 'good' tuning. No
single formula can provide a universally satisfactory result. Very
good tuning for a steam drum is very bad tuning for a surge drum.

The purpose of the controller, and its tuning parameters, is to
concentrate all the unknowns into a single point in your process and
to make that point adjustable. If you knew enough to fully
predetermine the tuning constants, you wouldn't need a controller.

For more information you may refer to a booklet
"Controller Tuning and Control Loop Performance, a
Primer, Second Edition", which is available in the US at the
cash discounted price of $16, postpaid if prepaid. It has
sold 27,803 copies to date. Control Engineering Magazine
has referred to it as "PID Without the Math".

Information is available at
http://members.aol.com/pidcontrol/booklet.html. There is a link
from there to a page about companion software ($10).
If you wish, I could e-mail you a brochure on either.

Walter.

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