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mark krawczuk

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Mar 3, 2008, 9:00:08 PM3/3/08
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hi, any body know of a free .sch viewer ?
thanks,
mark k


JeffM

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Mar 3, 2008, 9:09:53 PM3/3/08
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mark krawczuk wrote:
>any body know of a free .sch viewer ?

Heh. That's a good one.
http://filext.com/file-extension/SCH

Jim Thompson

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Mar 3, 2008, 9:25:36 PM3/3/08
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:09:53 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
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Sno-o-o-o-ort!

Anyone interested in making a name for himself would create a
universal converter between all the schematic formats.

...Jim Thompson
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Eeyore

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Mar 3, 2008, 9:33:42 PM3/3/08
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mark krawczuk wrote:

> hi, any body know of a free .sch viewer ?

Depends whose (what CAD program) made your .sch !

Mnay CAD programs have a free demo that'll allow you to look at their
schematic files.

Graham

JeffM

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Mar 3, 2008, 10:39:50 PM3/3/08
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mark krawczuk wrote:
>>>any body know of a free .sch viewer ?
>>>
JeffM wrote:
>>Heh. That's a good one.
>>http://filext.com/file-extension/SCH
>>
Jim Thompson wrote:
>Sno-o-o-o-ort!
>
>Anyone interested in making a name for himself would create a
>universal converter between all the schematic formats.

It bugs me that one of those
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you" types
(National Bureau of Standards?, Library of Congress?)
didn't see this way back when and push for a protocol that said
"If you want to send documents to the government,
they must be in a standard format;
one year from today we won't accept proprietary formats.
Now, lets get to work on this standard format."

You pointed noted what happens when it's left to the industry:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/b20fcdf704044b8b/41b2d61a68924dfc?q=*-*-created-by-*-*-COMMITTEE+*-*-almost-the-same-effort+they-all-think-*-they're-Microsoft+*-Software-companies-don't-want-you-*-*-*-to-translate-between-tools+zzz+*-nasty-cost+3rd-party-*+turf-battle+Pulsonix-*-*-*-*-*-EDIF

Massachusetts, California, and others
are pushing for this with ODF for office-type documents.

This is the kind of shit we're actually getting from the Feds:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:slashdot.org+intitle:Library-of-Congress+Microsoft+SilverLight+Cory

Brad Velander described the real problem pretty well:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/f85d28a336c67dae/7a528d64a1391bbb?q=*-*-*-equivalents-in-*-other-packages+Pulsonix-*-*-*-*-above-anything-else-*-*-*-*-importing+Autovue+doesn't+zzz+*-*-only-a-viewer+retrieve-data+*-*-*-limited-*-list-of-compatible-versions+*-*-exist+*-*-limitations-*-what-will-import-successfully+supports
There's a tool named there as well
that's probably closest to the magic tool that the OP wants.

Joel Koltner

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:16:13 PM3/4/08
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"JeffM" <jef...@email.com> wrote in message
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> "If you want to send documents to the government,
> they must be in a standard format;
> one year from today we won't accept proprietary formats.
> Now, lets get to work on this standard format."

Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that you can send in your taxes
for free... after which they'll most likely be OCRed and fed into a computer
for analysis... whereas eFiling your taxes, in most cases, costs ~$20? How is
it that the option that results in less work for the government costs more for
the citizen?


Ecnerwal

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:52:33 PM3/4/08
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In article <ytfzj.11409$Uf4...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>,
"Joel Koltner" <zapwireD...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that you can send in your taxes
> for free... after which they'll most likely be OCRed and fed into a computer
> for analysis... whereas eFiling your taxes, in most cases, costs ~$20? How
> is
> it that the option that results in less work for the government costs more
> for
> the citizen?

A - send them in on paper. They want anything else, they should bloody
well provide free access to it.

B - the IRS and/or Congress are evidently more interested in supporting
tax software businesses than in providing a sane electronic access to
the system. Do you smell inappropriate payoffs and palm-grease? I sure
do.

C - let's wipe out the IRS and the tax software businesses in one go by
_really_ reforming the tax system.

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Spehro Pefhany

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:56:18 PM3/4/08
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They (over)paid huge sums for consultants to create the website..
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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JosephKK

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Mar 5, 2008, 12:55:25 AM3/5/08
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:16:13 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireD...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Perhaps they are trying to fund the cost of bureaucratic retrenchment.

krw

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Mar 16, 2008, 5:28:01 PM3/16/08
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In article <LawrenceSMITH-3AC...@news.verizon.net>,
Lawren...@SOuthernVERmont.NyET says...

> In article <ytfzj.11409$Uf4...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>,
> "Joel Koltner" <zapwireD...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that you can send in your taxes
> > for free... after which they'll most likely be OCRed and fed into a computer
> > for analysis... whereas eFiling your taxes, in most cases, costs ~$20? How
> > is
> > it that the option that results in less work for the government costs more
> > for
> > the citizen?
>
> A - send them in on paper. They want anything else, they should bloody
> well provide free access to it.

That's why I fill mine out with software then transcribe it to paper
forms manually. If they really want to read my scratching, fine.

> B - the IRS and/or Congress are evidently more interested in supporting
> tax software businesses than in providing a sane electronic access to
> the system. Do you smell inappropriate payoffs and palm-grease? I sure
> do.

No evidence of that. "Stupid" explains it all well enough.

> C - let's wipe out the IRS and the tax software businesses in one go by
> _really_ reforming the tax system.

Dream on...

--
Keith

krw

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Mar 16, 2008, 5:28:02 PM3/16/08
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In article <tbdss3lg9chfnekj8...@4ax.com>,
quiett...@yahoo.com says...

I have no problem with if people voluntarily paying more to the
government.

--
Keith

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