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Please kind (insert platitudes here, or addreess titles i.e. Sirs or
Madames),
I am a new (insert job function or social status here, i.e. Student,
Engineer,
Electrician, Homeowner etc.)
<optional> from (insert non-english speaking country)
and I have this (insert task here, i.e. homework assignment, personal
project, project
assigned to me, problem with my appliance etc.).
I know (insert qualifications here, i.e. next to nothing, very little,
a
little, enough to be dangerous etc.) about electricity,
but was hoping that you all could help me to (restate task here, but
without saying what you really mean, i.e. do my homework for me, get me
out of a jam, help me to avoid paying a professional to do it
correctly, get me through this day without having to think, avoid
electrocuting myself or my loved ones etc).
I hope to hear from you soon.
Nooby Nooberson
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>Bob Ferapples wrote:
>To save time and bandwidth, I have boiled down the vast majority of
>postings to this newsgroup into a quick and dirty little format that
>can speed things up. Please follow this format from now on in this
>group.
>
>
What is Guy Macon up to these days? Maybe worth redirecting to
wherever he is hiding?
martin
LMAO
W|N>K
You now owe me a link for cheap new keyboards
Cheers
PeteS
Can't post it - he has his own moderated (by him) newsgroup, I
understand. Perhaps he's going to go into competition with Google
Cheers
PeteS
Maybe in little fiefdom, the product development newsgroup.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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>Bob Ferapples wrote:
>To save time and bandwidth, I have boiled down the vast majority of
>postings to this newsgroup into a quick and dirty little format that
>can speed things up.
A few years ago, someone posted a very funny take on this
to sci.electronics.design. It listed a large number of
spurious acronyms for use as responses to irritating
querants - I can't find it now, but it was stuff like
WWTYBYMHY - We Won't Tell You Because You Might Hurt Yourself
(for use in response to people asking how to make a Tesla coil
out of paper clips and a car battery - you know the kind of thing.)
Anyone got a link to the original?
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I get irritated by those who post serious replies when the very content
of the question shows that the person has not a clue. "Hi, I need to
design a control system for a nuclear reactor. Can someone tell me
what a diode does?"
Aaaarrrrggg!
Luhan
It depends on which way you hook it up. ;-)
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For people with the aforementioned skill level, that wouldn't matter
much. It will probably say "poof!" and start to smell. Noobs who can
learn from this experience, gradually build the skill to make the diode do
absolutely nothing at all.
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The famous N.E.D. (noise emitting diode) - goes bang just one time!
Luhan ;)
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> Re: Please help me with (insert task here)
Even worse is when they DON'T include the task in the subject. Eg.
"Need help, URGENT!!!"
Mark
Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap VOMs,
I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track player.
The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses
*snip*
> Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap
> VOMs, I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track
> player. The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses
>
Thus the reason electricians should not have any sort of lasik surgery
done or wear contacts. Glasses are safer for guys like us. (Don't
bother with safety glasses, you won't wear them anyway.)
Puckdropper
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> "Lord Garth" <LGa...@Tantalus.net> wrote in
> news:YnYKg.23864$gY6....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>
> *snip*
>
> > Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap
> > VOMs, I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track
> > player. The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses
> >
>
> Thus the reason electricians should not have any sort of lasik surgery
> done or wear contacts. Glasses are safer for guys like us. (Don't
> bother with safety glasses, you won't wear them anyway.)
Heh... ain't that the truth... Who thinks of putting on a pair of safety
glasses when they're ALREADY WEARING a pair of wraparound-style
prescription glasses specifically ordered to be cut from the same
material used in safety glasses, and have been for so long that they
hardly have a "blink" reflex to "incoming stuff" anymore?
Wha? Who? Me? Put on safety glasses? What do you think *THESE* are??? :)
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> For people with the aforementioned skill level, that wouldn't matter
> much. It will probably say "poof!" and start to smell. Noobs who can
> learn from this experience, gradually build the skill to make the diode do
> absolutely nothing at all.
Reminds me of the electrician test. You give the new guy a 5 tube ACDC radio
and a power plug to connect to it.
If he does it right and the radio runs he becomes an electrician.
If he blows a fuse he becomes a radio repairman.
If he takes the power out in a city block he becomes an electrical engineer.
;)
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> If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the
> plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks,
> (s)he becomes an engineering academic...
That was my favorite technique - on 240 VAC!
VSC = Voltage to Smoke Converter
-Dave
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>Dennis wrote:
>> Luhan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The famous N.E.D. (noise emitting diode) - goes bang just one time!
>>>
>>> Luhan ;)
>>>
>> Or as my wife called it once when I hooked up a small diode backwards
>> the "temporarily light emitting diode" the TLED I guess.
>
>VSC = Voltage to Smoke Converter
>
>-Dave
A heating coil stuck in some spices from the spice cupboard.
Ahhhh, the zen of mastery... How does one know when one has become a
master? When the diode does nothing.
> Reminds me of the electrician test. You give the new guy a 5 tube ACDC radio
> and a power plug to connect to it.
(snip)
> If he takes the power out in a city block he becomes an electrical engineer.
If this happens, the D.O.D. whisks him or her away in the dead of night.
Install a 1N34 across a light switch with the power off an d the
switch is on. Turn the power back on and wait for someone to shut it
off. Then there is a loud bang, but the light still works when they
turn it back on. I used to have 5000 spares. ;-)
Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose
parts and builds a radio?
--
Sue
> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose
>parts and builds a radio?
Me? (;-)
No, I can't claim eight; ten, though. Purely due to lack of data; I had
enough parts but didn't know how to put them together.
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ZING!!!!!
Nice one :)
Things may change when "My Little Pony Electronics Experimenter Kit"
becomes a best seller. If only..
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>In message <44FC854C...@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006,
>Michael A. Terrell <mike.t...@earthlink.net> writes
>
>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose
>>parts and builds a radio?
>
>Me? (;-)
>
>No, I can't claim eight; ten, though. Purely due to lack of data; I had
>enough parts but didn't know how to put them together.
Didn't you buy Practical Wireless/ Wireless World? You could even get
those in Wales
martin
>Didn't you buy Practical Wireless/ Wireless World? You could even get
>those in Wales
I was ten in 1947. At ten, you couldn't afford a shilling for PW, let
alone two for WW (and I didn't like sweets, so I wasn't spending on
other stuff). I started taking WW in November 1952, but my father bought
it for me for the first year.
>All the most truly exceptional engineers that I have met were/are all
>"fitted with, rather than fitted for"..
I've met a pretty exceptional one, of the female persuasion, through the
Audi Engineering Society EMC standards group. NASA and all that. Lots of
high-precision RF work, and a ham ticket. I don't know her call. Another
is an Australian, into very advanced digital audio.
But of course that's two among thousands. However, the number of female
members of the Society is increasing rapidly.
Mike (who has several 5 tube radios plus a Philco model 70 chassis
in storage to be restored... eventually...)
When I was 8, I built a number of radios. Unfortunately, they were meant to
be audio amplifiers. We were very close to a powerful AM station.
>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:26:40 +0200, the renowned martin griffith
><mart_in...@yahoo.esXXX> wrote:
>
>>On 3 Sep 2006 13:41:01 -0700, in sci.electronics.design "PeteS"
>><PeterSm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Bob Ferapples wrote:
>>>To save time and bandwidth, I have boiled down the vast majority of
>>>postings to this newsgroup into a quick and dirty little format that
>>>can speed things up. Please follow this format from now on in this
>>>group.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What is Guy Macon up to these days? Maybe worth redirecting to
>>wherever he is hiding?
>>
>>
>>martin
>
>Maybe in little fiefdom, the product development newsgroup.
>
>
Last time I looked, he was averaging maybe three posts a month, and
that mostly stuff he hijacked from s.e.d. and then answered himself.
At least he's stopped playing the stupid crosspost-moderator game.
John
Hey! That sounds like my early days! 500 yards, give or take, from the
base of the local 50KW AM station's mast means #10 cans scavenged from
restaurants are your friends!
>In message <12fp5c6...@corp.supernews.com>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006,
>=?UTF-8?B?UGFsaW5kcuKYu21l?= <m...@privacy.net> writes
>
>>All the most truly exceptional engineers that I have met were/are all
>>"fitted with, rather than fitted for"..
>
>I've met a pretty exceptional one, of the female persuasion, through the
>Audi Engineering Society EMC standards group. NASA and all that. Lots of
>high-precision RF work, and a ham ticket. I don't know her call. Another
>is an Australian, into very advanced digital audio.
>
>But of course that's two among thousands. However, the number of female
>members of the Society is increasing rapidly.
Maybe they are better at listening?
martin
My kinda guy ;).
I have 'been there, done that' when it comes to being in over my
head. My first major project at my first engineering job was a
subcontract for a mil-spec power distribution unit, essentially
two circuit breaker panels and some motor controls in one
cabinet. However, the company had no mil-spec experience
or quality control system, so we had to create everything from
scratch. 20 years later, I prefer dealing with bio-pharm cGMP.
Mike
When I was 8, I was mostly building lamp dimmers. Not the intended
function, mind you, but that's what they did :-)
I got some people more than once. Anyway, what else would you use
unmarked germanium diodes for? You can only use so many in prototypes.
Gee thanks. :( Five years later I was working part time repairing
radios and TVs in a TV repair shop.
I did it at eight in 1960, One from a kit, and others from scratch
using magazine articles. The kit was a transistor radio, the others
were variations of the very common (All American Five) type radio. I
continued building radios all through high school. They were built from
parts from damaged radios and surplus parts from places like "Burstein
Applebee" and other US based mail order surplus places. I also took a
working plastic cased Panasonic AM/FM clock radio with a melted cabinet
and built a nice wood case for it. I used it for a few years, till my
mother wanted me to show it to a woman she sewed for, and was pressured
into selling it. :(
Are you familiar with the news:rec.antiques.radio+phono newsgroup?
I used to install a roughly 68 ohm 1/2 watt carbon resistor across
the AC mains (110 volt) after the power switch. This was usually
done at lunch time, while someone else was preparing for his
initial smoke test on a new instrument (back in the days of
tubes). The result was a satisfactory grrr-bang and smoke. Modern
resistors don't work as well, they just fizzle.
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to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about
being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why
they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an
explanation." - George W. Bush, 2002-11-19
> "I'm the commander--see, I don't have to explain -- I don't need
> to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about
> being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why
> they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an
> explanation." - George W. Bush, 2002-11-19
Just out of curiosity, what is the source of that quote? If I quote it,
people are going to ask me how I know it's genuine.
Found it. CBS News, dated 2002/11/17:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/17/60minutes/main529657.shtml
And some people think Carbon Comp resistors are useless. ;-)
> I used to install a roughly 68 ohm 1/2 watt carbon resistor across
> the AC mains (110 volt) after the power switch. This was usually
> done at lunch time, while someone else was preparing for his
> initial smoke test on a new instrument (back in the days of
> tubes). The result was a satisfactory grrr-bang and smoke. Modern
> resistors don't work as well, they just fizzle.
>
Reminds me of a tech that liked to insert a small loop of
rosin-core solder into another tech's bench outlets. These
gave a very satisfying BANG and smoke, but had the
down side of ruining the outlet, so you couldn't play the
trick too many times....
Yep. CBS/Wallace/Woodward... the kind of source that makes the
stomach turn.
...Jim Thompson
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> I used to install a roughly 68 ohm 1/2 watt carbon resistor across
> the AC mains (110 volt) after the power switch. This was usually
> done at lunch time, while someone else was preparing for his
> initial smoke test on a new instrument (back in the days of
> tubes). The result was a satisfactory grrr-bang and smoke. Modern
> resistors don't work as well, they just fizzle.
>
Try 1/4 watt 1000 Ohm metal film resistors, they glow red, then make a
decent, "pop".
~100 uF ~10V radial aluminum electrolytics make great confetti
generators, when plugged into standard 120V power outlets.
Kids, don't try this at home.
Ah, memories!
Tom
An SCR, placed across the terminals of a decent
sized gelcell will give a very rewarding blue
flash followed by an orange fireball after it's
been turned on.
We used to put those 0.5mm pencil fillings across the 220V terminals (the
screw type that also accepts banana plugs) at the test benches at school....
Especially the softer types (4-6B) produced a nice soft orange flash
followed by enormous amounts of smoke :-)
Meindert
> > An SCR, placed across the terminals of a decent
> > sized gelcell will give a very rewarding blue
> > flash followed by an orange fireball after it's
> > been turned on.
>
> We used to put those 0.5mm pencil fillings across the 220V terminals (the
> screw type that also accepts banana plugs) at the test benches at school....
> Especially the softer types (4-6B) produced a nice soft orange flash
> followed by enormous amounts of smoke :-)
Tantalum caps connected with reverse polarity will make
a good-sized bang when the encapsulation material
bounces off a hard object and/or will have a small
mushroom-shaped cloud rise from it.
If you happened to be looking at the moment when power
was applied to the old UV-erasable PROMs place in a
socket backward would put on an interesting show of
little pinpricks of light appearing at random spots
on the die.
I remember that. We called it the "You put the
chip in the socket backwards lamp".
BTW, the SCR trick works best with parts in a
TO-220 package.
> Hi can someone please explain to me how to post to usenet?
Use extra postage.
> Hi can someone please explain to me how to post to usenet?
Um, you just did...
Tried that once. It got awful hard to read the screen between all the
stamps.
(that, and the white-out my wife keeps painting on the screen to correct her
typing mistakes :-)
No, he used "Google Groups", which is spliced into usenet.
You are posting through Google Groups from 209.236.224.213 which is
assigned to <http://www.mia.net>. They don't appear to have a news
server, but you could ask them.
The other way is to either pay for access to a USENET server, or fight
with the free, but flaky free USENET servers. If you can afford a few
bucks a month I would go for one of the biggies like Supernews.
The last option is to find an ISP who offers USENET access as part of
their regular package.
> phaeton wrote:
>>
>> Hi can someone please explain to me how to post to usenet?
>
>
So once you do all this, and actually post to USENET, how do you tell?
Does it have AOL Keywords?
:-)
Why would anyone want that crap?
Get and install a version of Thunderbird for your system. See:
Interrogate your ISP for the proper URL for the news server, and
enter it in the configuration. You now have something like 20,000
(maybe 50,000) newsgroups available to you.
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Mike, it's a JOKE... Start at the beginning of the thread, and you'll
get it...
--Gene
Sorry guys, I was just fooling around. Note that I'm no longer at work,
and instead of using Google Groups, I'm at home using the Pan newsreader
to read/post via my ISP's nntp server directly.
:-)
-phaeton
What do you think " No, he used "Google Groups", which is spliced
into usenet." is? ;-)
Like WUBE radio in Cincinnati, ohio used to claim, "We're 50 KW of
country music, transmitting from a splice in the high tension line!"
See title. This was a joke (and quite a good one IMO)!
Jeez
you've cleared the first hurdle, read all of this page:
<http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348>
Bye.
Jasen