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timwn...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2005, 5:46:30 PM3/21/05
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Hi all,

I am in the middle of building a backyard garden shed, which will
become more like my gear storage shed. Any suggestions on how to store
my stuff?

I was thinkin' of having dowels that come out from the walls for the
boards, that seems to be the easy part. The tougher question is how to
store the sails so that they are easily grabbed, easy to find, and
don't collect water. My first thought was a sail corral type deal
where they'd sit on end in a pen.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

-Tim

Paul Braunbehrens

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Mar 21, 2005, 7:49:32 PM3/21/05
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Here is what I do...it's very basic.

Boards: Hang on the wall with two ladder hooks. Bungee makes sure
they don't fall off, but they are stable without it.

Masts: Surprise surprise. 2 ladder hooks. Each set of ladder hooks
holds several masts in their bags. No need for any retaining device.

Booms: Can you guess? Actually, it's a bicycle hook. Booms hanging
straight down. I have these hanging over the boards. Just make sure
you hang them from a plastic part, not the grip part.

Additional boards are stored against the wall, using 2 pieces of 2x4
under them just to stabilize them.

Sails: Not kidding, I just throw them on the floor next to the boards.
I think standing on ends can cause problems with the sails. I have not
have any problems with water. If I did, I'd probably just throw down
some drydeck or something under the area where I throw the sails.

Box o' stuff goes next to the sails and kind of keeps the whole thing
contained to one half of the garage.

The nice thing about this setup is that everything is in the same
orientation as it goes into the van (except the booms). I just back
the van up to the garage, open the doors, and slide all the gear in.

Since I always take everything, I don't mind having the gear in such a
way that you have to move the box to get to the sails, have to move the
sails to get to the boards and booms, and have to move the booms to get
to the boards.

In article <1111445190.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

D. White

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Mar 21, 2005, 10:05:37 PM3/21/05
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I found that with all the other junk in my garage I needed to maximize
space, so I used cheap aluminum ladder hooks, bent them straight, and
attached them to the wall about a foot apart. I slid pipe sponge wrap
over them, put some thick carpet scraps down, and fit the boards in
upright. My booms are next to them, using hooks. The sails and masts
lean against the wall on carpet, never had a problem, plus the water
drains out. Storing them vertically saves space, provided your shed
height is sufficient. Come to think of it, though, most sheds aren't
that tall, are they...

Dan Weiss

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Mar 22, 2005, 12:01:31 AM3/22/05
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Stored my stuff in a shed for years. Any sort of rack system will do. Mine
first was recycled teak from a fishing platform. Lasted about 18 years.

Recently a constructed a rack from Home Depot plumbing pipe and fittings.
The steel pipes screw into the elbows at 90 degrees. Very strong and a
total bargain given the lack of labor involved.

I had good luck with a 2x4 extending horizontally for a boom rack. The boom
heads were at the top. Water drained OK.

The key is ventilation, as heat will kill your boards. Lots of vents are
the minimum in the summer. Perhaps install an overhang over one of the
windows (if you got em) or anything to increase air flow. Don't
underestimate the power of heat to delam your favorite board.

Dry and cool, that's the ticket.

-Dan
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a_m...@yahoo.com

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Mar 22, 2005, 11:46:48 AM3/22/05
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If you have enough height, store everything vertically and save
footprint that way. Dowels coming out of the a 2x4 attached to the wall
just above head height (so you don't poke yourself on them) carpet
underneath. Be sure to have sails standing with the sleeves down; clew
down will cause wrinkling of monofilm - with sails, though, laying them
down so they're all the way supported would be preferable.

All that said - the only stuff I store in my garage is my wife's gear,
along with some old stuff I haven't sold for some reason or another.
Everything else lives in the van. If I couldn't do the van, I'd at
least do the trailer. Seems like the critical component is always time,
especially if you're at the mercy of frontal systems and can't plan
your sailing sessions in advance (as you might be able to do in very
reliable places like Maui in the summer). So the benefit of never
having to spend time on loading gear or making an extra trip home from
work (plus the chance of forgetting that vital piece of equipment) is
pretty powerful.

Andreas

Cliff Frost

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Mar 22, 2005, 3:02:22 PM3/22/05
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Andreas,

I've been worried a little that if I store the sails flat they might get
creases in the monofilm, especially if I have to pile sails on top of
each other (which I would have to do in my garage.)

So in my garage all winter I store them upright (clew up, of course) and
have never noticed any problem.

But in my mini-van I have to lay them flat and on top of each other if
I'm going to fit all eight of them in... I do notice some deformity in
the less well-used sails but so far no actual damage. The deformity is
that the monofilm seems to remember a somewhat flattened shape, so I try
to roll the sail up tighter after use.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Cliff

timwn...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2005, 1:31:16 PM3/23/05
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Timing is everything, that is true. My stuff mostly lives on top of my
car all spring summer and fall. In the winter I have the sad ceremony
of taking the gear down off the car and putting it in storage.

It's gettin' to be that time again when the car get's loaded up.

timwn...@gmail.com

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Mar 23, 2005, 1:33:49 PM3/23/05
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Hey Cliff,

I've been thinkin' about gettin' a mini-van, how is it for windsurfing?
It seems like the perfect activity mobile. Better milage then a van
or SUV, plenty of space, and if you get a 4x4 model, you're stylin' for
ski trips.

The only issue is not being mistaken for a soccer mom/dad. Maybe some
flames on the hood will take care of that. ;)

-Tim

Glenn Woodell

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Mar 23, 2005, 2:10:57 PM3/23/05
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On 23 Mar 2005 10:33:49 -0800, "tim_nit...@yahoo.com"
<timwn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey Cliff,
>
>I've been thinkin' about gettin' a mini-van, how is it for windsurfing?
> It seems like the perfect activity mobile. Better milage then a van
>or SUV, plenty of space, and if you get a 4x4 model, you're stylin' for
>ski trips.

I loved mine. Best surfmobile I had until I had a family. Then they
complained of the bad smell from wet gear inside. Had to go to a
pickup after that.

You can also change clothes inside very easily.

>The only issue is not being mistaken for a soccer mom/dad. Maybe some
>flames on the hood will take care of that. ;)

That's what stickers are for.

Glenn

Cliff Frost

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Mar 24, 2005, 2:04:37 PM3/24/05
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I like it a lot. I got front-wheel drive rather than AWD and have never
had a problem in snow although I do have to put on chains. Mine is a Chrysler
Town & Country.

I have 2 boards on the roof (slalom and wave). Inside I have 8 sails (including
3 monster Formula sails), 5 masts (430, 460, 490, 520, 550), 4 booms, a Formula
board, and all the other assorted gear. The long masts and sails project up
between the driver and passenger seat, as well as the clew end of the largest boom.

In this configuration I can carry two passengers.

I don't give a hoot about being mistaken for a soccer mom. ;-)

Cheers,
Cliff

bonzo

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Apr 3, 2005, 9:46:31 PM4/3/05
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Tim,

In case you haven't started your shed project yet, I just posted some
photos and a description of a shed I built a few years ago.

http://pwp.surfglobal.net/jeffc/Windsurf_Shed.htm

Jeff

Blauster

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Apr 4, 2005, 12:14:40 AM4/4/05
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a_m...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dowels coming out of the a 2x4 attached to the wall
> just above head height (so you don't poke yourself on them) carpet
> underneath. Be sure to have sails standing with the sleeves down;
clew
> down will cause wrinkling of monofilm - with sails, though, laying
them
> down so they're all the way supported would be preferable.
>
> All that said - the only stuff I store in my garage is my wife's
gear,
> along with some old stuff I haven't sold for some reason or another.
> Everything else lives in the van.

I use similar dowel system in my basement garage. Hood River is low
humidity and the garage stays cool even in hot summer which guards
against de-lams Dan mentions. There are dowels for 8 boards. Sails
upright on carpet, booms upright on clew ends to drain. Wetsuits on an
old heavy duty circular coat rack. Like most adapted sailors I drive a
Ford Econoline cargo van. Mine has the protective bulkheads and is
semi finished with Berber carpet flooring. I just throw whatever combo
of sails and boards that will be needed for the day's conditions. Try
to take no more than 2 but sometimes take 3 if driving very far. Have
reflective insulation material to put in all the windows to prevent
heat inside when parked at beach. My system could be better. My
neighbor has a neat rack system he puts in his Econoline for wind
season that holds the various items. Alot of people here are not only
carrying gear in the van but also sleeping in them which creates a
whole other level of complexity. BTW we scored 4.2 Friday but have
been skunked since with rain today. Wind is supposed to return
tomorrow as we have to go back to work. River is still very cold.

- Blauster

Paul Braunbehrens

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Apr 4, 2005, 3:19:57 PM4/4/05
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d00d!!!

;-)

That is one serious shed. My problem is that I usually just don't take
the time to build things this well. I'd rather take the time sailing
or playing with the kids. Still, that is one of the most functional
and nicest looking sheds I've ever seen.


In article <1112579191....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
bonzo <je...@globalnetisp.net> wrote:

> http://pwp.surfglobal.net/jeffc/Windsurf_Shed.htm

Paul Braunbehrens

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Apr 4, 2005, 3:22:33 PM4/4/05
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BTW we scored 4.2 Friday but have
> been skunked since with rain today. Wind is supposed to return
> tomorrow as we have to go back to work. River is still very cold.
>
> - Blauster
>


Don't complain. We got hail yesterday in the Bay Area, and I just saw
the doc and he said my broken foot needed another 4 weeks in a boot,
maybe more. Feel better now? ;-)

Jay Halford

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Apr 4, 2005, 10:16:41 PM4/4/05
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>
> Don't complain. We got hail yesterday in the Bay Area, and I just saw
> the doc and he said my broken foot needed another 4 weeks in a boot,
> maybe more. Feel better now? ;-)

You've got nothin on me Paul. I've been out since September with what I
thought was a torn labrum (turned out I tore some muscle off my scapula).
Still not OK to sail, aiming for late May.


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