Does sheryl work?
Greg Morrow
Just a general question -- for all the time that our dear sheryl spends
micro-managing everybody's else's business on this group, and making
snide comments here and there -- does she have a job?
I always notice she is an eager-beaver ready to jump into the fray with
her so-called "informed" "facts", "advice", etcetra ad nauseaum (that's
Latin for "We're sick of sheryl"...).
sheryl puts so much _anger_ and _venom_ into her sour
replies/comments/"sermonettes"--she obviously takes a lot of time to
compose her postings here, as her grammar is generally faultless (I'll
pass on the logic...).
Comments, Comrades?
Happiness!
greg morrow
William J. Candee IV
anyone. Your post is, at the least, inappropriate.
That said, I like Sheryl, even though I have never met her. She's a
helpful and considerate contributor to the group. She just doesn't
back down when she's attacked. I'm glad she posts here.
--Bill Candee in NYC
On Sat, 8 May 1999 22:16:00 -0500 (CDT), Conva...@webtv.net (Greg
Morrow) wrote:
>
>Comments, Comrades?
Greg Morrow
>That said, I like Sheryl, even though I
> have never met her. She's a helpful and
> considerate contributor to the group.
> She just doesn't back down when she's
> attacked. I'm glad she posts here.
>--Bill Candee in NYC
Well, Bill, I guess we're reading different posts....
There is a difference between being "right" and being "stubborn."
Bill, you're a reasonable fellow-- why do you think she's "attacked," as
you say, so often?
This is not some gladiator forum in Ancient Rome, as Sheryl seems to
think it is.
I honestly wonder how Sheryl can function in daily life.
Read her posts...
Happiness!
greg morrow
Sheryl
Now I'm on the major attack against YOU, you disgusting varment. As
Bill said, I do not back down when I am attacked. If you don't like
what I post, you are under no obligation to read anything with my name
on it.
As to my calling "Father Michael's" posts lies. Any true clergyman
would have no interest in pursuing a discussion along the lines he has.
I stand by that. My feeling is no different than anyone else's who've
participated in his threads. Only difference is, their's are on other
newsgroups. If your webtv will go there, you're welcome to verify his
dual identity. He has been accused of running a pyramid scheme, and
frankly, it wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not going to delve into his
website far enough because frankly, I don't care. But when someone
comes to this newsgroup with ulterior motives, I as well as anyone else
has the right to expose them.
And a few weeks back, I responded with accurate information to your post
about circumventing fare rules, but because "Sheryl" was in the header,
you chose to attack me. Yeah, I could do like you webtv'ers and change
my e-mail address whenever it fancied me, but I enjoy my credibility.
So let's see, what have you contributed to this group via the discussion
of air travel?
maryanne kehoe
home again.
Go figure...
Maryanne.
Todd Cordisco
Greg,
Just ignore her where you can. She doesn't always know what she is
talking about and if you keep arguing with her she usually comes back with
some lame comeback that proves you know what your talking about. She is
very knowledgable about booking and ticketing practices and policies but
can always be beat on an airline economic issue. Sometimes it does get
frustrating when in the past I've posed a question about mergers, demand,
a/c types, labor issues etc. and she is first to jump in with an answer
that makes no sense and tries to close the thread right there. If you
keep pursuing it you eventually can get past her. Ellen on the other hand
is one to contend with. She will throw answers out that are very tough to
reply to and can really make an individual think! Whenever I've seen
myself coming to a head with Ellen I just throw in the towel right then
and there.:)
Todd
Deborah Stevenson
>"Interestingly" enough...Sheryl's E-Mail address is incorrect... I have
>tried to reply privately to her several times..only to have it bounce
>back.... and it is not just to filter out spam like many other E-Mail
>addresses are which you can figure out...
Looks pretty figure-outable to me, actually.
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Greg Morrow
whatever contributions she may make in this group; e.g., she blows her
own credibility by her inherent bad behavior. This is a basic concept
that _most_ of us manage to grasp _very_ early on in life -- or risk
great peril to our personal and professional lives. It's simply a
matter of maturity, emotional stability, and taking responsibility for
one's own actions. In viewing sheryl's posts (in their totality) one
can draw one's own conclusions.
Is "Does sheryl work?" an _inappropriate_ subject for this group? _You
bet it is_! It is as inappropriate as her behavior (and I bet she
_loves_ the attention, imho).
I (and _many_ others -- btw, thank you all for your e-mails [not _all_
from webtver's, sheryl!]) find her niggling personal inquires,
"holier-than-thou" attitude, and "_I'm_ indispensable!!" mentality quite
grating. Unless sheryl is immortal (ah, don't count it out folks!), she
is not indispensable. There are plenty of knowledgeable, even expert
people on this group -- airline employees (including a pilot), vff's,
airline/aircraft buffs, and for a _true_ class act, the wonderful Anna
Warman. None of them has the "attitude" problems that sheryl has...
She's obviously very unhappy, very neurotic, and has ___way___ too much
time on her hands. She is to be pitied, actually...
By the way, sheryl, since you are always taking such a proprietary (and
frankly, invasive) interest in everyone else's business, how about
_you_? Where do _you_ live, _exactly_? Who do _you_ work for,
_exactly_? "We" would all like to know! :)
Happiness!
greg morrow
ITRADE
Greg Morrow <Conva...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<12490-37...@newsd-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> sheryl's sour attitude and ugly demeanor unfortunately detract from
I will disagree to a large degree about this. She has constantly been
willing to research fares and requests for people who have come and
gone on this group long before you, Greg.
Much of the ranting and picking which takes place here is in response to
things which are either wrong or incapable of response. For instance:
poster appears on r.t.a. and wants to fly from LAX to JFK on one day's
notice and wants to pay no more than $199 for the flight
OR
poster wants to fly to JAC but doesn't say anything about when or from
where. This post was an actual post in which another regular incorrectly
picked on Sheryl's response to the original post.
SNIP
>
> By the way, sheryl, since you are always taking such a proprietary (and
> frankly, invasive) interest in everyone else's business, how about
> _you_? Where do _you_ live, _exactly_? Who do _you_ work for,
> _exactly_? "We" would all like to know! :)
>
Why does it matter do you? Do you plan to send flowers or a nude
picture of yourself?
> Happiness!
> greg morrow
Rich
DNP
I agree with you Michael and Jason on this one.
Last month I made a post concerning a low fare I got on United to Los
Angeles.
Sheryl first called me a troll and then a liar and said that I was
making the whole thing up.
Her exact words were:
"Uhhh...I have never seen CLT-LAX on UA for $127 r/t. I've seen it at
$249 but never below $200. What itinerary did you use? "
I then posted the itinerary and she claimed it was fabricated.
I then posted a copy of the fare codes with the breakdowns and the
information regarding the fare and offered to fax the ticket recipt to
her.
Her exact words again were:
"And was a Saturday stay required at the fare? Bet so. The
original poster is definitely a troll."
A little flame war ensued and basically I found her to be a little
self centered and definitely an arrogant know it all.
She seems to enjoy attacking people and has a bad case of foot in
mouthous.
Dave
On Sun, 09 May 1999 21:05:08 -0400, Father Michael
<Father...@canada.com> wrote:
>Well, sir.... if you read her post to me, she "attacked" me as a
>liar..so if you found HIS posting inappropriate.... you must have had
>serious issues with her, as well.... I certainly did... nor do I "back
>down" either.... I find her to be delivberately confrontative... if
>nothing else, just to "stir up" issues which should not be "stirred
>up"... much less her business to make such character judgements or
>assassinations...
>
>Fr. Michael
>
>"William J. Candee IV" wrote:
>
>> First of all, I don't think that this ng should be a referendum on
>> anyone. Your post is, at the least, inappropriate.
>>
>> That said, I like Sheryl, even though I have never met her. She's a
>> helpful and considerate contributor to the group. She just doesn't
>> back down when she's attacked. I'm glad she posts here.
>>
>> --Bill Candee in NYC
>>
DNP
Bryan
>
> MY Dear Sheryl:
>
> I won't bother trying to reply to your E-Mail address... it does not work.
>
> Now, on to your loathsome method of accusing me for something I have no part
> of...
>
> I am an ordained Eastern Orthodox Priest. Period. If you doubt that fact, that
> is your right, and I do not feel that I have to prove it to you. As for
> "dual" identities, you are, to be blunt, a paranoid little person to feel that
> you must attack someone who merely posts to a newsgroup his or her
> opinion...as I have seen you do repeatedly.
>
> The posting you refer to in the other newsgroup I have REPEATEDLY explained
> was in error as it was supposed to be private. In the history of newsgroups, I
> cnanot believe that others have not erred and posted publically something that
> was intended to be private alone.
>
> As to the "pyramid" scheme you mention. I have also replied in defense of the
> man's website because it is clear that you have no clue as to what you are
> talking about as the man's site makes no mention of pyramid schemes nor does
> he ask others to sell to others the information they have purchased. In fact,
> I think he would be quite upset to find out that others would be selling his
> information to their gain. The fact that you can complain and condemn so
> throughly and yet, not have the desire to check out what you are complaining
> about...(only jump on the "bandwagon" to compain in an uninformed manner!),
> shows that you are a thoughtless and uninformed fool.
>
> As for a clergyman not stating such things, well, Sheryl, I have to add, then,
> that you obviously do not know many clergymen who stand up for what is right
> as well as the rights of others...
>
> Now... go get a life.... and "take on the day!" Your day and life... not
> somebody elses!
>
> Father Michael
I think Sheryl and Ellen are in a heated battle for the "Nastiest
RTA'er" prize.
Maybe we should have a contest. If you had to endure a 5-hour transcon
flight from JFK to LAX seated next to either Sheryl or Ellen, which one
would you choose? It's a packed full flight so you can't change seats.
(Me, I'd violate FAA regs and open the emergency exit and jump!) :-)
nd...@my-dejanews.com
comment about a lady I believe that in Sheryl's case
her behavior allows some comment. The lady leaps in and
makes untoward remarks at every opportunity. Habitual
NG users know that being in an NG is like being at a
cocktail party where the ebb and flow of conversation
takes off at different tangents. It would be a lousy
party where the only talk allowed was the reason for
the party! In my instance some members of this NG and
myself were having a discussion about spell checkers
and Sheryl posted: "Hey, Fay, got anything to say about
air travel???" Now that folks tells volumes about Sheryl.
She is clearly, inter alia, a very bitter, unhappy person.
People are usually unhappy because they have, or feel
they have, been dealt a bad hand in the game of life.
Personally, I sincerely hope that whichever god Sheryl
genuflects to grants her tranquility and peace of mind
and that she finds happiness.
n article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990510120118.22660B-
100...@expert.cc.purdue.edu>,
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maryanne kehoe
>whenever he sees himself coming
>to a head with Ellen, he throws in
>the towel right there.
Me too...I know the few times Ellen and I have debated, I have lost
every time!!!! :)
Maryanne.
maryanne kehoe
and Ellen, who would win?
I am staying neutral on this answer!
Let's get ready to ruummmbbllleee!!
Maryanne.
maryanne kehoe
>he'd open the emergency exit and
>jump
DB Cooper, is that you?!?!
Maryanne.
Pvdwnmark
CAUSED ON THE WEB.
Need to know how far HOU and IAH from each other. I am thinking of round
tripping some weekend. CO out and WN back. CO has lowered there airfare already
to match most WN fares. It should be interesting to see how CO does. They have
expanded here as much as anybody in the last two years. I read your postings on
Ricky's site and I communicate often with him.
If you ever come this way, I'll treat you to twin lobsters.
Take care
Kenneth Crudup
Conva...@webtv.net (Greg Morrow) says:
>Just a general question -- for all the time that our dear sheryl spends
>micro-managing everybody's else's business on this group, and making
>snide comments here and there -- does she have a job?
Not everybody has to go home and log into a television to use Usenet, ya know.
-Kenny "WebTV- we make AOL look smart" Crudup
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Trist...@webtv.net
Let's consider, for the sake of argument, a fully loaded, overstuffed,
worn-out, 25-year-old L1011, with 360 seats, with faulty air
conditioning and only one working toilet, where the coach configuration
is 2-5-2, and that about 359 members of the RTA newsgroup are taking a
nonstop vacation/charter flight of about nine hours' duration.... with
no movie, because the VCR broke, and only stale dried-out peanuts for a
snack, because there was an e-coli scare in the airline kitchen right
before flight time. Also, someone forgot to load the liquor carts. And,
there are no stereo headsets (and thus no radio reports to listen to,
sorry Maryanne) - AND, the FAs are all over 70 and ride to work on
brooms.
Seated in row 44 (waaay back there) in the middle of the 5 seats is Greg
(chosen because he has apparently been ticked off one time too many by
S.) On the left side of Greg, moving out, is Ellen, followed by
Maryanne. On Greg's immediate right is Sheryl, followed by Father
Michael (or, if you prefer, insert the name of your favorite personality
from the RTA newsgroup...)(but make sure it's someone who doesn't let
things go, and just has to make post after post after post regarding
whatever topic) -
these five individuals discover (MUCH to everyone else's amusement) that
they are seatmates for nine long, long hours.
Question #1: Does this charter flight to hell ever actually get off the
ground?
Question #2: Did the passenger in seat 27F get a better price than
Sheryl, thus infuriating her to no end?
Question #3: Do the five passengers in row 44 as listed above (waaay
back there in the back of the plane) implode out of anger because of:
(a) an argument over the price of gas in their respective areas; (b)
unspeakable differences of opinion on private body part hair care; or
(c) do they MIRACULOUSLY decide to GET ALONG and enjoy their vacation
together????
-Tristan
Todd Cordisco
>
> I think Sheryl and Ellen are in a heated battle for the "Nastiest
> RTA'er" prize.
>
> Maybe we should have a contest. If you had to endure a 5-hour transcon
> flight from JFK to LAX seated next to either Sheryl or Ellen, which one
> would you choose? It's a packed full flight so you can't change seats.
>
>
>
I would definetly pick Ellen! You have to admit Ellen would at least make
you think and have stimulating things to say. Based on reading Ellen's
posts the last 2 years she seems very well cultured and would probably
make for a very interesting seat mate.
Todd
Greg Morrow
Greg Morrow
with ".net" in sheryl's address....
i may be wrong...
Greg Morrow
> day!" Your day and life... not
>somebody elses!
>Father Michael
Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Now _that'd_ be a thread! sheryl vs. "Dr." Laura
Schlessinger!!!! Think of the possibilities, folks!!!
"When you're smiling*..."
(*best version of this is on SINATRA'S SWINGIN' SESSION! AND MORE
--Capitol CDP7 465732)
Trist...@webtv.net
"Go ahead... send me flaming email... I'll just post it here for
EVERYONE to enjoy."
Greg Morrow
>Seated in row 44 (waaay back there) in
> the middle of the 5 seats is Greg
> (chosen because he has apparently
> been ticked off one time too many by S.)
> On the left side of Greg, moving out, is
> Ellen, followed by Maryanne. On Greg's
> immediate right is Sheryl, followed by
> Father Michael (or, if you prefer, insert
> the name of your favorite personality
> from the RTA newsgroup...)(but make
> sure it's someone who doesn't let things
> go, and just has to make post after post
> after post regarding whatever topic)
>these five individuals discover (MUCH to
> everyone else's amusement) that they
> are seatmates for nine long, long hours.
Ah, now down to brass tacks!
Well, let's see: Ellen is okay, and I really like Maryanne. I'm sure
the good Father and Our Dear Sheryl will be deeply ensconced in a
serious conversation about the concepts of Heaven and Hell.
>Question #1: Does this charter flight to
> hell ever actually get off the ground?
>Question #2: Did the passenger in seat
> 27F get a better price than Sheryl, thus
> infuriating her to no end?
No, because someone from this ng took pity on her and she has a "twin
lobster dinner" date to look forward to after her vacation.
>Question #3: Do the five passengers in
> row 44 as listed above (waaay back
> there in the back of the plane) implode
> out of anger because of:
>(a) an argument over the price of gas in
> their respective areas; (b) unspeakable
> differences of opinion on private body
>part hair care; or
>(c) do they MIRACULOUSLY decide to
> GET ALONG and enjoy their vacation
> together????
>-Tristan
I say (c) because: Since Maryanne and I are pals, we'll meet at one of
the airport bars a couple of hours before departure, have a few, and gab
about Cuban "beisbol", WebTv's superior e-mail system, things Russian,
and why those lousy Cubs stink _again_ this year. So despite a lack of
booze on the plane, Maryanne and I will be in a happy (and forgiving,
{_possibly_}) mood.
The Good Father will convince Sheryl of her errant ways (specifically
regarding that pesky "thou shall not bear false witness" clause that the
"Keeper Of The Big Casino" inserted in that pesky Ten Commandments
contract.).
I'll forgive Sheryl if she gets me the __best f***ing deal__ of anyone
on the plane. And if anyone could, Sheryl probably could.
Maryanne and Ellen will have a friendly disagreement (notice, folks, no
quotes around "disagreement").
All will be sweetness and light.
Oh, I forgot -- I hope Erik3g is in the row behind us, because he can
note all of our behavior, and take wry, cryptic notes (preferably in
Turkish...).
If we _don't_ get along, we'll crash, and that will give the lovely,
erudite ANNA WARMAN much "fuel for fodder"(the wreckage will be moved to
BA's Flight Safety Centre for study by future generations) and a
marvelous opportunity to SNIP, SNIP, SNIP....
Happiness!
greg morrow
g...@my-dejanews.com
Trist...@webtv.net wrote:
> I have an even better proposal:
>
> Let's consider, for the sake of argument, a fully loaded, overstuffed,
> worn-out, 25-year-old L1011, with 360 seats, with faulty air
> conditioning and only one working toilet, where the coach configuration
> is 2-5-2, and that about 359 members of the RTA newsgroup are taking a
> nonstop vacation/charter flight of about nine hours' duration.... with
> no movie, because the VCR broke, and only stale dried-out peanuts for a
> snack, because there was an e-coli scare in the airline kitchen right
> before flight time. Also, someone forgot to load the liquor carts. And,
> there are no stereo headsets (and thus no radio reports to listen to,
> sorry Maryanne) - AND, the FAs are all over 70 and ride to work on
> brooms.
>
> (chosen because he has apparently been ticked off one time too many by
> S.) On the left side of Greg, moving out, is Ellen, followed by
> Maryanne. On Greg's immediate right is Sheryl, followed by Father
> Michael (or, if you prefer, insert the name of your favorite personality
> from the RTA newsgroup...)(but make sure it's someone who doesn't let
> things go, and just has to make post after post after post regarding
> these five individuals discover (MUCH to everyone else's amusement) that
> they are seatmates for nine long, long hours.
>
> ground?
> Question #2: Did the passenger in seat 27F get a better price than
> Sheryl, thus infuriating her to no end?
> back there in the back of the plane) implode out of anger because of:
> (a) an argument over the price of gas in their respective areas; (b)
> unspeakable differences of opinion on private body part hair care; or
> (c) do they MIRACULOUSLY decide to GET ALONG and enjoy their vacation
> together????
>
> -Tristan
Any of the allergic to peanuts? :)
maryanne kehoe
>hypothetical flight
I love it!!! Great description---and I have just decided that the
answer to Question Number 1 (does this charter flight ever get off the
ground?)-- is a resounding YES!
We're off to MOSCOW!!!! (sorry Vitaly, I will leave you at the hotel
while the rest of us go to Manhattan Express).
Maryanne.
ERIKG3
>ground?
With Father Michael aboard, I do think there would be a different destination.
-Erik
Robert Johnson
You ever hear of a kill file? If you don't like or don't appreciate Sheryl's
posts then for Gods sake quit reading them. No one is holding a gun to your
head and forcing you to read them.
Sheryl has made plenty of positive contributions to this group. Why don't
you try making some positive contributions instead of taking cheap shots?
Robert Johnson
Greg Morrow wrote:
> sheryl's sour attitude and ugly demeanor unfortunately detract from
> whatever contributions she may make in this group; e.g., she blows her
> own credibility by her inherent bad behavior. This is a basic concept
> that _most_ of us manage to grasp _very_ early on in life -- or risk
> great peril to our personal and professional lives. It's simply a
> matter of maturity, emotional stability, and taking responsibility for
> one's own actions. In viewing sheryl's posts (in their totality) one
> can draw one's own conclusions.
>
> Is "Does sheryl work?" an _inappropriate_ subject for this group? _You
> bet it is_! It is as inappropriate as her behavior (and I bet she
> _loves_ the attention, imho).
>
> I (and _many_ others -- btw, thank you all for your e-mails [not _all_
> from webtver's, sheryl!]) find her niggling personal inquires,
> "holier-than-thou" attitude, and "_I'm_ indispensable!!" mentality quite
> grating. Unless sheryl is immortal (ah, don't count it out folks!), she
> is not indispensable. There are plenty of knowledgeable, even expert
> people on this group -- airline employees (including a pilot), vff's,
> airline/aircraft buffs, and for a _true_ class act, the wonderful Anna
> Warman. None of them has the "attitude" problems that sheryl has...
>
> She's obviously very unhappy, very neurotic, and has ___way___ too much
> time on her hands. She is to be pitied, actually...
>
> By the way, sheryl, since you are always taking such a proprietary (and
> frankly, invasive) interest in everyone else's business, how about
> _you_? Where do _you_ live, _exactly_? Who do _you_ work for,
> _exactly_? "We" would all like to know! :)
>
> Happiness!
> greg morrow
William Hull
Trist...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> I have an even better proposal:
>
> Let's consider, for the sake of argument, a fully loaded, overstuffed,
> worn-out, 25-year-old L1011, with 360 seats, with faulty air
> conditioning and only one working toilet, where the coach configuration
> is 2-5-2, and that about 359 members of the RTA newsgroup are taking a
> nonstop vacation/charter flight of about nine hours' duration.... with
> no movie, because the VCR broke, and only stale dried-out peanuts for a
> snack, because there was an e-coli scare in the airline kitchen right
> before flight time...
--
bill hull
sdrc/metaphase, asia-pacific group, pdm technical consultant
http://www.sdrc.com
dan...@earthlink.net
There are some with whom and intelligent exchange is not possible --
much less the possibility of winning a debate! :)
djb
mbal...@safnow.org
dan...@earthlink.net wrote:
> There are some with whom and intelligent exchange is not possible --
> much less the possibility of winning a debate! :)
Danbel --
It's wonderful to see that you've finally come to terms with yourself.
Michael
maryanne kehoe
>intellegent debate
I know I will get some intellegent and stimulating conversation with
Ellen....but I know better to get into an "arguement" with her! :)
I know she will be continually on my case untill I get an AmEx card!
<g>
Maryanne.
dan...@earthlink.net
What's the deal----has she got something against Diners Club and Visa?
:):) LOL
djb
dan...@earthlink.net
>
> In article <373834...@earthlink.net>,
> dan...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > There are some with whom and intelligent exchange is not possible --
> > much less the possibility of winning a debate! :)
>
> Danbel --
>
> It's wonderful to see that you've finally come to terms with yourself.
>
> Michael
It's also wonderful to see that some things never change-----like your
seeming fixation on making some kind of asshole comment to absolutely
EVERY post I make. I should have expected it but I would like to think
that some day you and certain others will finally grow up.
djb
Bryan
I wouldn't be so sure. If you're married to someone who is your same
color, or have a girlfriend of the same color, or are travelling with
someone of your same color, or just happen to be seated next to someone
of your same color, or a flight attendant who is your same color brings
you a drink or some food, you'll have to content with Ellen calling you
a racist. A real nutcase!
Mike Cordelli
news:3737ED84...@earthlink.net...
-snip-
> Sheryl has made plenty of positive contributions to this group
-snip-
And she is also responsible for a ton of uncalled for negative ones and name
callings about people in discussions they weren't even participating in.
She's brought this on herself. Let the discussion go on, if you don't like
it, then add it to your kill file.
Trist...@webtv.net
on here (regarding that aspect of Ellen) doesn't give me enough to
arrive at a definitive conclusion.
So, Ellen... I am Hispanic (Dominican) and my boyfriend is Caucasian
(White.) Am I a racist?
There are many ways of looking at this, I suppose. But so far, I am
lost.
-Tristan
Michael Voight
She also said if I was white and was looking for a hispanic girlfriend
then I was racist. Some guy was looking for a white woman for a trip and
she indicated he was racist. Just because someone prefers a specific
race for a girlfriend doesn't make them racist.
g...@my-dejanews.com
Trist...@webtv.net wrote:
> I don;t understand this whole Ellen-is-a-racist thing. What I have read
> on here (regarding that aspect of Ellen) doesn't give me enough to
> arrive at a definitive conclusion.
>
> So, Ellen... I am Hispanic (Dominican) and my boyfriend is Caucasian
> (White.) Am I a racist?
Hispanic is not a race. It refers to one whose background is from a
Spanish-influenced culture in the Americas. Hispanics may be Negroid (black)
or Caucasoid (white).
A term that I've seen used in the Hispanic press is "Iberoamerican" (though
this also includes Brazilians).
>
> There are many ways of looking at this, I suppose. But so far, I am
> lost.
g...@my-dejanews.com
Father...@canada.com wrote:
> Well, I may be mistaken, but I have seen on plenty of government "official"
> forms in the USA and CANADA where HISPANIC is indeed a box to be checked, right
> along with other "races."
>
Since when does the overnment know what it's talking about? Now, what is race?
a...@wxs.nl
> I don;t understand this whole Ellen-is-a-racist thing. What I have read
> on here (regarding that aspect of Ellen) doesn't give me enough to
> arrive at a definitive conclusion.
>
>
--I don't think anything that anyone reads on here regarding anything is going
to give them enough to arrive at a definitive conclusion!
--==++AJC++==--
a...@wxs.nl
> "Interestingly" enough...Sheryl's E-Mail address is incorrect... I have
> tried to reply privately to her several times..only to have it bounce
> back.... and it is not just to filter out spam like many other E-Mail
> addresses are which you can figure out...
>
> so go figure...
>
>
--You shouldn't read too much in to the fact that the reply address given in a
newsgroup posting may not be an authentic e-mail address. Some of us as well as
wanting to avoid spam, may want to avoid unsolicited personal e-mails, and I
don't think the participation in a public forum such as this requires the
broadcasting of personal contact details. If you want to engage in private
discussion with Sheryl, why don't you post such a request to this newsgroup,
and if the feeling is mutual she will make contact with you.
--==++AJC++==--
ITRADE
Trist...@webtv.net wrote in article
<12988-373...@newsd-113.bryant.webtv.net>...
SNIP
>
> So, Ellen... I am Hispanic (Dominican) and my boyfriend is Caucasian
> (White.) Am I a racist?
>
Has pingaboy turned a new leaf here or what???
Rich
Mike Cordelli
I agree with you, if it was just a filter then it would say "take out the
space and change the domain name to reply".
She sometimes uses it in the body of her e-mails when she wants somebody to
reply to her.
Don't quote me on this, but I sincerely believe that by everybody ganging up
on her the way it is happening is one of the best things to happen to the
newsgroup in a while. Perhaps now she will realize how everybody she steps
all over feels. At least any new people will be able to see she treats
everybody like that, not just them.
Don't like your question? Call you stupid. Have an e-mail address from say
France? Well, you must be a troll working for Air France (of course you
could also work for a company who sends their e-mails through the home
office in France). Dare to correct her about something? Well then she will
go to newsgroups all over the place slandering you for no reason. Want to
fly someplace? Guaranteed the answer will be to drive for six hours, get on
a Southwest flight and drive another three hours to get to where you have to
be.
And how about the people in the lawyers office she works in in Houston?
(The employee information was in a Yahoo profile or some similar place).
What a bunch of morons they must be, not able to get anyplace or do anything
without her assistance. "One of the guys I arrange flights for stopped by
in the mens room on his way to the plane and got lost. He called me at home
and asked if he should turn right or left to get back to his gate. I used
my superior knowledge of the airport to tall him that if he was at gate 62
and had to be at 63 he could call the customer service reps at Continental
and ask for the e-mail address to send for better signs." No, we can't fly
our high priced people into Boston, we have to fly into Providence and make
them drive up to see you.
She admittley takes only 10 flights per year, and uses a corporate travel
agent for all this "scheduling" she does for the morons. In a recent post
about her parents going on a cruise, she said they let the cruise line
arrange for the air tickets. She is just a moron, plain and simple, who is
using the newsgroup to pretend to be an expert who flies less then once a
month on some quack airline like Southwest.
Father Michael <Father...@canada.com> wrote in message
news:3737157D...@canada.com...
> "Interestingly" enough...Sheryl's E-Mail address is incorrect... I have
> tried to reply privately to her several times..only to have it bounce
> back.... and it is not just to filter out spam like many other E-Mail
> addresses are which you can figure out...
>
> so go figure...
>
> Father Michael
>
> maryanne kehoe wrote:
>
> > Sheyl is one of two people in r.t.a. that I have told NOT to email me at
> > home again.
> >
> > Go figure...
> >
> > Maryanne.
>
Rolando Zamora
>
> Well, I may be mistaken, but I have seen on plenty of government "official"
> forms in the USA and CANADA where HISPANIC is indeed a box to be checked, right
> along with other "races."
>
>
Exactly... and ususally next to the checkbox you'll find the phrase
"Hispanics can be of any race". You see, the term Hispanic is a
government-created (I believe it was the U.S. Census Bureau) category to
denote people from the Americas with a common Spanish-influenced
background. Note that this obviously excludes Spaniards and
Brazilians.
A more common word actually referring to a race would probably be
Latino. OTOH, most Latinos I know -including myself- refer to
themselves by their country/territory of origin: cubano, puertorriqueno,
argentino, dominicano, mexicano, etc. And the government can't change
that.
ObRTA: AA is the largest U.S. carrier flying to Latin America.... ;-)
--Rolando
My opinions only!
g...@my-dejanews.com
replace WARE with NET <rza...@delaWARE.com> wrote:
> Father Michael wrote:
> >
> > Well, I may be mistaken, but I have seen on plenty of government "official"
> > forms in the USA and CANADA where HISPANIC is indeed a box to be checked, right
> > along with other "races."
> >
> > Father Michael
> >
>
> Exactly... and ususally next to the checkbox you'll find the phrase
> "Hispanics can be of any race". You see, the term Hispanic is a
> government-created (I believe it was the U.S. Census Bureau) category to
> denote people from the Americas with a common Spanish-influenced
> background. Note that this obviously excludes Spaniards and
> Brazilians.
>
> A more common word actually referring to a race would probably be
> Latino. OTOH, most Latinos I know -including myself- refer to
> themselves by their country/territory of origin: cubano, puertorriqueno,
> argentino, dominicano, mexicano, etc. And the government can't change
> that.
Right!
I know the term "Chicano" refers to Americans of Mexican descent. Is this
term considerd derogatory? Do Americans from Hispanophone countries in the
Americas have special terms in this manner?
jonransome
Does anybody care to enlighten me about this nutty 'webmiss'.
Thanks
sicko...@worldnet.att.net
<jonra...@postoffice.co.uk> wrote:
Some here (not all) are just jealous because Sheryl happens to be a
little more knowledgable about air travel than others.
Greg Morrow
> representation of what is and has
> happened. "Jealousy" has nothing to do
> with it at all...
>Father Michael
Father Michael is a most kind and humble fellow, but he knows someone
who "has your number"....
Heartily yours,
Greg Morrow (who _never_ practices the sin of jealousy...)
"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy
neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox,
nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour's." Exodus 20:17
Greg Morrow
you're _good_...