The END of online sports could be near, this is NOT BULLSHIT!!!!

Chilly8

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The end of online sports broadcasting, REGARDLESS of WHERE it comes
from could be near, and this is *NOT* BULLSHIT!!!!!!

There are rumors that the House version of the Protect IP Act could be
even WORSE than the Senate version.

This one REALLY COULD shut down streaming providers, and others
site, that rely on user-generated cotent. And this could also affect
online broadcasts of figure skating, REGARDLESS of where you
get it from.

Whether you get it from us, from IceNetwork, Eurosport, Sportbox,
or anywhere else, chances are they utilise some kind of streaming
service provider, to handle the bandwidth. So for those who enjoy
getting skating broadcasts online, whether be from us, or anywhere
else, it may come to an end.

And this rumored house version of SO broad, that it could get
Figure Skating Universe and GoldenSkate blacklisted, becuase
there are links, sometimes, which MIGHT be considered pirate,
under this version.

If Figure Skating Universe and/or GoldenSkate are ever blacklisted,
it would be done through DNS, and this can be trivial to circumvent.
And this what makes Windows SUPERIOR to Mac or Linux,

You just need to put these entries in your hosts file

208.72.42.49 www.fsuniverse.net
74.52.107.178 www.goldenskate.com

What this will do is cause windows to use what is on your hosts file, and
not use your ISPs DNS servers to locate a site, so no matter what the
government orders done ot the DNS servers, you can still access
both sites, as Windows will refer to your hosts file first.

Note this is ONLY for users of WINDOWS. There is NO hosts
file in Mac, Linux, or Unix, or ANY equivalent. PIPA is one GOOD
reason why Mac, Linux, and Unix users should switch to Windows,
becuase of the hosts file that can be modified by the user.

Onlnie radio and TV is a low margin business, and most of us just
do NOT have the kind of money it would take to run our own streaming
server full time, given the bandwidth costs, so the House version of
PIPA, if the rumors are true, and going to put an END to the online
radio industry.

I have done online broadcasting of skating, since 1995, and I must
say it's been grand folks. It has been what has been 17 season now of
brodcasting skating online, And I did it on pirate shortwave, before
that. I broadcast skating, in some capacity, since 1984, and
the changes I have seen in nearly 28 years have been quite a lot.

At the time I began broacasting skating in 1984, the idea that
the Russians would EVER *NOT* be at the top of the podium
in either pairs or ice dancing would be been unthinkable. And
people would have been ROFLLTAO, had the idea of America
EVER winning medals in ice dance been brought up. Before
Belbin and Agosto, the idea of America ever winning a medal
in ice dancing would be been considered "Alien Space Bats".
Before Belbin and Agosto, America was a lighteweight in ice
dance. Before Belbin in Agosto, anyone would bust
a gut laughing at the idea of any American couple ever
winning a medal in ice dance.

It was just last year then history was made when Sarah
Meier became the first ever Swiss lady to win Europeans.
The only other skater of any ilk Switzerland ever had was
in the mens disicipline, with Stephane Lambiel, who won
world and Olympic medals for Switzerland. Switzerland
has excelled in all other winter sports, but NOT in figure
skating.

IF this is to be the end for us, and other figure skating
broadcasters, we will be long remembered for bringing
skating broadcasts to parts of the world that would not
normally see it. Before ICracveTV was shut down in
2000 for copyright infringment, their rebroadcasts of
TV stations in Toronto and Buffalo exposed parts of the
USA to skating which would not normally have it. Not
many TV or radio stations south of the Mason Dixon
line would have skating on. I don't think very many
people in places like Selma, Montgomery, or Biloxi
would generate that much of an audience for skating.
More Southernors prefer football or baseball to sports
like figure skating. Before ICraceTV, I doubt that
the Los Angeles area would have had that much
of an audience for figure skating. Prior to 2002
North Americans, there has NEVER been any
skating event within a days drive of wither the
Los Angeles or San Diego. But us, and ICraceTV
actually paved the way for figure skating to become
more mainstream in the LA area. Since the days
of ICraveTV, the Toyota Center, EastWest
Arena, Westminster Ice Palace, and a rink
in Pasadena, have been built. Before 2000, there
were no ice rinks in the LA area. So we give
credit to the former ICracveTV, for exposing
people in the LA area to figure skating, though
their online rebroadcasts of TV stations
in Toronto and Buffalo.

Chilly8

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Oct 25, 2011, 7:47:08 PM10/25/11

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> If Figure Skating Universe and/or GoldenSkate are ever blacklisted,
> it would be done through DNS, and this can be trivial to circumvent.
> And this what makes Windows SUPERIOR to Mac or Linux,
>
> You just need to put these entries in your hosts file
>
> 208.72.42.49 www.fsuniverse.net
> 74.52.107.178 www.goldenskate.com

I would post this on FSU and/or GS, but some admins might
see it as Spam. Out a number of usernames I have registered
on GoldenSkate, only TWO have ever been banned. One of them
was when I posted an alert about one bill, in the lame duck session
of the 2006-2007 Congress that would have affected nearly every
message board out there, It had said "Reason: Spam". So be VERY
careful if you decide to post anything about this on either Figure Skating
Universe or GoldenSkate, they might see it as Spam. That happened
to my "FritzOwl" username, in late December of 2006, when I had
posted an alert about one bill that would have affected them.

You MIGHT get away with in in the political section of the
Figure Skating Universe board, but even there I would be
careful.

The word MUST be gotten out about this bill. The way
I see it, this bill could even censor Usenet. Now, AIOE
is headquarted in Italy, with servers in Holland. However,
the Americans WILL find a way to make their laws apply
there. However, you can foil any blocking of AIOE by
adding these lines to your Windows hosts file

94.75.214.39 news.aioe.oeg
94.75.214.90 nntop.aioe.org

This will allow your newsreader software to access aioe.org
even if the governments orders your ISP to muck with its
DNS server to try and block access.

While this is the worst thing to happen to the net since the
Communications Decency Act, I am not going to go far
as one nutcase did. There was one guy, that I was accused
of being, that also used Penet.fi accounts, that called for
boycotting the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, and called for
Americans to be deliberately be scored down in subjectively
judged sports, such as gymnastics and skating. They did
have some success in doing that, as Nicole Bobeck was
smacked down HARD by the judges at 1995 Worlds.
First in qualifying, first after the SP, but only FOURTH
in the long program? I don't care WHAT people like
Louis Epstein, who has flamed me off and on for many
years about this says. There is no other POSSIBLE explantion
for what happened to Nicole at 1995 Worlds.

I do fear, though, that American skaters may well be caught
in the middle, as SOMEONE will try to use them as a
political bargaining chip to stop this law. I understand the
implications of this law, but using atheletes is a poltical
tool is the WRONG way to do it. Carted tried that with
the 1980 Olympic boycott, and there was some talk,
after the South Ossetia War, in 2008, of boycotting
the 2014 Olympics.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 25, 2011, 9:57:23 PM10/25/11

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In article <j877si$hgq$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The end of online sports broadcasting, REGARDLESS of WHERE it comes
> from could be near, and this is *NOT* BULLSHIT!!!!!!

Of course it is. Everything you post is bullshit.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 25, 2011, 10:17:15 PM10/25/11

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In article <j877si$hgq$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> At the time I began broacasting skating in 1984, the idea that
> the Russians would EVER *NOT* be at the top of the podium
> in either pairs or ice dancing would be been unthinkable. And
> people would have been ROFLLTAO, had the idea of America
> EVER winning medals in ice dance been brought up. Before
> Belbin and Agosto, the idea of America ever winning a medal
> in ice dancing would be been considered "Alien Space Bats".
> Before Belbin and Agosto, America was a lighteweight in ice
> dance. Before Belbin in Agosto, anyone would bust
> a gut laughing at the idea of any American couple ever
> winning a medal in ice dance.

Fuck you.

How dare you steal the nationalities of Colleen O'Connor
and James Millns, and Carol Ann Peters / Daniel Ryan, and Carmel Bodel /
Edward Bodel, and Sharon McKenzie / Bert Wright, and Andree Anderson /
Donald Jacoby, and Lorna Dyer / John Carrell, and Judy Schwomeyer /
James Sladky, and Judy Blumberg / Michael Seibert.

All those are AMERICAN couples who won dance medals in either Worlds or
the Olympics.

Why do you think it's acceptable to steal their nationalities. Still
waiting for an answer from you on this issue.

> It was just last year then history was made when Sarah
> Meier became the first ever Swiss lady to win Europeans.
> The only other skater of any ilk Switzerland ever had was
> in the mens disicipline, with Stephane Lambiel, who won
> world and Olympic medals for Switzerland. Switzerland
> has excelled in all other winter sports, but NOT in figure
> skating.

What the fuck is wrong with you, that you think you can steal people's
nationalities like this?

Swiss skaters who won medals at Worlds the Olympics are: Hans
Gerschwiler, Denise Biellmann, Silvia Grandjean / Michel Grandjean,

> Prior to 2002
> North Americans, there has NEVER been any
> skating event within a days drive of wither the
> Los Angeles or San Diego.

This may actually be one of the stupidest things you've ever said. and
that's saying a lot.

> But us, and ICraceTV
> actually paved the way for figure skating to become
> more mainstream in the LA area. Since the days
> of ICraveTV, the Toyota Center, EastWest
> Arena, Westminster Ice Palace, and a rink
> in Pasadena, have been built. Before 2000, there
> were no ice rinks in the LA area.

Where do you think all the LA skaters skated, you moron?

> So we give
> credit to the former ICracveTV, for exposing
> people in the LA area to figure skating, though
> their online rebroadcasts of TV stations
> in Toronto and Buffalo.

Since I live in LA and I've never heard of iCrave, this idiotiic premise
is completely destroyed.

Chilly8

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Oct 25, 2011, 11:03:01 PM10/25/11

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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This is NO HOAX!!! This version of the Protect IP Act is something
that fans of "niche" sports, such as figure skating need to be aware
of. This really could affect your ability to watch skating online.

It does not matter WHERE you get your skating coverage from,
be it us, IceNetwork, or Universal Sports. This law could could
really affect that.

A couple of Senators well known for being in the back pockets
of the copyright industry could get their commupance in the
elections next year when a lot of unemployed and pissed off
tech workers vote their asses out of office.

And with hacktivists like Anonymous, America could really
feel their wrath. I do believe that at the Masters Series Final
last year that Rachael Flatt did get screwed over. Even if the
she have a less than steller skate, I think she should have been
more like 3rd or 4th, rather than dead last. I was lurking in
one of their chat rooms a few days before, and there was talk of
mucking with the scoring compiuter at the Masters/GP
final. You can say what you like, but think Rachael should
have been no lower than fourth after the short at least year's
series final. The only reason Alissa was able to win the
series final is becuase some of the other skaters managed
to screw up bad enough . Otherwise, she, too, would
have also taken a royal screwing.

These guys at Anonymous mean BUSINESS. America is
just apt to feel the wrath of Anonymous if this bill goes
through and in many different ways.

And with the number of out of work and pissed off
tech workers there are going to be, if this goes through,
I don't think Anonymous will have any trouble recruiting
new people to their ranks. And unlike the ones that
have been arrested, we are talking tech professionals
who would know how to do it, without getting caught.
If Anonymous gets enough out of work tech professionals
in their ranks, it will spell a LOT of trouble. The Anonymous
hacktivists that have been arrested are AMATEURS, compared
to that kind of people that Anonymous could recruit into their
ranks if this bill goes through. The kind of people that Anonymous
could end up with in their ranks would know how to commit
a DDoS attack and never get caught.

If you work ANYWHERE in the tech industry, be afraid,
be VERY afraid!!!

Becuase YouTube could shut down, if this law goes through,
if you have any favourite YouTube videos you like, better
record your own copies now, before YouTube dissapears.

There are a lot of skating videos there. If there are any you
like, you better get software, such as Replay Media Catcher,
and record them NOW, while you still can.

This rumored version of the Protect IP Act is so bad
that it could RUIN the internet, and kill a LOT of
good paying high tech jobs. I figure that a lot of tech
firms will have to either shut down, or leave the country,
taking all their jobs with them.

There are still countries out there willing to tell America
to take a long walk off a short pier. I could see these
companies setting up shop in, say, Iran, which HATES
America so much, that they will tell the United States to
DROP DEAD, if America raised a stink about such
companies operating out of Iran. Ahmoud Amaninijad
would almost certainly tell America to shove their ass.

Syria's Bashar Assad would also certain tell the American
auhthorities to go screw themselves.

Chilly8

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>

Becuase of this new law, we regret to say that
we will be changing formats to a more music
oriented format sometime in December.

We will change sometime after the completion
of the Master Of Figure Skating Series (formerly
known at the Hatchet Job Invitational Series), or
what Don Del Grande has called the "Cup Of
Chuckie" Series.

If this is the last season of the series, I would
love for it to end with an Aussie winning one
event in the GP final, and it is possible. If this
is to be the last Masters Series, I would love
nothing more than to see an Aussie win the
last one. We have two Australian ladies that
could do it, if they can just keep from melting
down in the long. If the Masters Final is to
be the last, I would love nothing more than
to go out yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie" into
the mic at the top of my lungs one last time,
as an Aussie wins. That is the way I would
love to go out.

Just in case a future Congreess sees fit to
repeal this outrage, we will archive all the
usernames in phpBB, MediaWiki and
Joomla, so that we can restore them just
the way we were, if we do come back.

The format that we will be switching too will
be much like these "we play anything" stations,
but we will also have a lot of the country, rap
and metal, that were a part of the Hot 100,
that a lot of these stations omit.

In the years of the Maters Series (formerly the
Hatchet Jon Inviational Series), these
have been the winners since its inception in
the 1995-1996 season:

Ladies

1995 Michelle Kwan USA
1996 Tara Lapinski USA
1997 Tara Lapinski USA
1998 Tatiana Malinina Uzbekistan
1999 Irina Slutskaya Russia
2000 Irina Skutskaya Russia
2001 Irina Slutsskaya Russia
2002 Sasha Cohen USA
2003 Fumi Suguri Japan
2004 Irina Slutskaya Australia
2005 Mao Asada Ognian Federation
2006 Kim Yu-Na South Korea
2007 Kim Yu0Na South Korea
2008 Mao Asada Ognian Federaton
2009 Kim Yu Na South Korea
2010 Alissa Czisny USA

Men

1995 Alexei Urmanov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
1996 Elvis Stojko Australia
1997 Ilya Kulik Russia
1998 Alexei Yagudin Russia
1999 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
2000 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
2001 Alexei Yagudin Russia
2002 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
2003 Emmanuel Sandhu Canada
2004 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
2005 Stephane Lambiel Switzerland
2006 Brian Joubert France
2007 Stephane Lambiel Switzerland
2008 Jeremy Abbott United States
2009 Evan Lysacek St Kitts
2010 Patrick Chan Canada

Ice Dancing

1995 Grishuck/Platov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
1996 Bourne/Kraat Canada
1997 Grishuck/Platov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
1998 Kylova/Ovsianikov Turkmenistan
1999 Annisina/Al-Peizerat United Arab Emirates
2000 Fusar-Poli/Margagalio Italy
2001 Bourne/Kraatz Canada
2002 Lobacheva/Averbukh Russia
2003 Nava/Kostomorov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
2004 Nava/Kostomorov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
2005 Nava/Kostomorov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
2006 Dekova/Staviyski Bulgaria
2007 Dominina/Shabalin Russia
2008 Delobel/Schoenfelder France
2009 Davis/White Antigua
2010 Davis/White Antigua

Pairs

1995 Shiskova/Naumov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
1996 Woetzel/Steuer New Schwabia
1997 Berezhnaya/Sikharlidze Russia
1998 Shen/Zhao China
1999 Shen/Zhao China
2000 Sale/Pelletier Canada
2001 Sale/Pelletier Canada
2002 Totmiana/Marinin United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
2003 Shen/.Zhao China
2004 Shen/Zhao China
2005 Totmiana/Marinin United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia
2006 Shen/Zhao China
2007 Savchenko/Szolkowy Germany
2008 Pang/Tong China
2009 Shen/Zhao China
2010 Savchenko/Szolkowy Germany

Thomas Groom

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:36:02 AM10/26/11

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in article j87t9d$2en$1...@speranza.aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com
wrote on 10/25/11 8:03 PM:

>
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd-6592FA...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
>> In article <j877si$hgq$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The end of online sports broadcasting, REGARDLESS of WHERE it comes
>>> from could be near, and this is *NOT* BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>>
>> Of course it is. Everything you post is bullshit.
>>
>
>
> This is NO HOAX!!!

You haven't posted one piece of truth in over 15 years, why start now.

Thomas Groom

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:42:31 AM10/26/11

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in article j8828v$bfs$1...@speranza.aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com
wrote on 10/25/11 9:28 PM:

> Becuase of the new Del Taco Manager, we regret to say that
> we will be removed from our toilet stall.

Time to put your pants back on and leave the men's room.

Chilly8

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I lived in Australia for 15 years and now live in Balleney. The
House version of PIPA could also close one loophole that has
allowed smaller companies into the game. By blocking certain
countries, we don't have to worry much about hving to buy
broadcast rights to any sports event we broadcast. If the
rumored House bill goes through, it could end that loophole,
and put a lot of the smaller companies that do sports broadcasting
out of business.

As I have said before, it is only becuase of folks like us that
"niche" sports, such as figure skating has become available to
a wide audience. With servers in the USA, we only have to
recognise US laws, as most foreign governments, outside of
ACTA and TPP signatory nations, cannot take any action,
as long as the content does not violate US law. This has allowed
us to bring figure skating, and other nice sports, to sizeable part
of the world, where you would never see them.

That is why you see sites, including us, blocking access to
certain countries, even though the servers are in the USA.
This loophole has allowed a lot of smaller broadcasters to get
into the game.

This bill, if Demand Progress is correct about what is in there,
will destroy a lot of companies and a lot of tech jobs. You could
see unemployment at rates not seen since the Great Recession
of 1973 to 1984, or even the Great Depression in the 1930s.
THAT is how bad this bill would be, if Demand Progress is
correct.

And I am not bluffing, when I say that this could bring recruits
into the ranks of Anoymous who could commit ther DoS attacks
without ever getting caught. We are talking professionals with
every imaginable college degree in tech, who could be able to
do it without ever getting caught, or at least not leaving enough
evidence to present to a jury.

Chilly8

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:57:19 AM10/26/11

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message

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> In article <j877si$hgq$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

>
> Since I live in LA and I've never heard of iCrave, this idiotiic premise
> is completely destroyed.

ICracveTV was a Canadian outfit that got shut down in 2000.
They were not violating Canadian laws, but the owner was
apparently a US citizen living in Toronto that the American
authorities decided was subject to US laws. They broke no
Canadian laws of the time, but they did break US laws.

Thomas Groom

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Oct 26, 2011, 3:21:01 AM10/26/11

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in article j887b7$l1s$1...@speranza.aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com
wrote on 10/25/11 10:54 PM:

>
> "Thomas Groom" <use...@thegreenfalcon.com> wrote in message
> news:CACCEBD7.3F07F%use...@thegreenfalcon.com...
>> in article j8828v$bfs$1...@speranza.aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com
>> wrote on 10/25/11 9:28 PM:
>>
>>> Becuase of the new Del Taco Manager, we regret to say that
>>> we will be removed from our toilet stall.
>>
>> Time to put your pants back on and leave the men's room.
>>
>>
>
> I lived in Australia for 15 years and now live in Balleney.

More like baloney.

Chilly8

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Oct 26, 2011, 4:45:42 PM10/26/11

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And it gets worse. One leaked draft of the bill, before
the bill even has a number makes proxies, VPNs,
and other privacy tools illeagal, becuase they CAN
be used to circumvent site blocking mandated under
the law.

That will be another bunch of tech people out
of work. Much as we dislike the fact that dgs
uses them to circumven the bans we place on him,
commercial proxies and VPNs do provide a legitimate
service in protecting people's privacy.

America would become the third country, besides
Oman and Pakistan, to outlaw VPNs. This also
means that logging into a VPN at your office
would be illegal, without a special government
license. This will put a burden on a lot of
businesses that rely on VPNs for secure remote
access to their offices networks.

Tor would also be illegal in America, as well
as proxy lists, such as Samair.

If you have the means to do so, I suggest you
GET THE HELL *OUT* of America, as soon as
possible.

That part of the bill is being sposored by a few
right-wing christian fundamentalist DOUCHEBAGS,
who have looked at ways to censor the Net for years.
The way the law is written, a number of internet industries
could be wiped out. If you work in:

Anonymising services
Encrypted proxies
Internet radio/tv
Internet porn
Message boards
Server Farms
Stream hosting
Web hosting services
"web proxies" (dgs would know what this is)
VPN providers

You may soon be out of a job. Protect IP was bad enough,
now there are some right-wing SHITHEADS from the
Christian Right that want to make it even WORSE.
Virtually every company in the afforementioned industries
will have to close down. A lot of these are companies
thait rely on user generated content that would be affected
by this legislation.

And there is, from some interpreations, a version of the
Commercial Felony Streaming Act that is so BAD,
that even streaming privately, just to YOURSELF
would become illegal. Streaming privately within your
own LAN, would be a felony offence. And unlike the
Senate version of CFSA, merly VIEWING illegal
content would be a felony crime unde the house
version. So if you are watching pirated skating
videos on Justin TV (and there are often a lot
of them at times), you will be a felon under this
law.

And for anyone who might be using any kind
of proxy to circumvent georestrictions on the
Eurovision Olympics feed, which a lot of Americans
have done, becuase NBC has such lowsy Olympics
coverage, you will now be a felon if you do THAT.

And this could affect schools and colleges with closed
circuit TV that beams educational programming to
classrooms. This has largely replaced the VCR in
a lot of schools. Under this law, CSUS, my alma
mater, would be breaking the law, they way
their closed circuit campus TV is set up.

Thomas Groom

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Oct 26, 2011, 7:53:24 PM10/26/11

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in article j89rhk$7gq$1...@speranza.aioe.org, Chilly8 at Chi...@hotmail.com
wrote on 10/26/11 1:45 PM:

> GET THE HELL *OUT*

Which is what the Del Taco manager wants you to do.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 26, 2011, 10:30:29 PM10/26/11

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In article <j8828v$bfs$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:j877si$hgq$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >
>
>
> Becuase of this new law, we regret to say that
> we will be changing formats to a more music
> oriented format sometime in December.
>
> We will change sometime after the completion
> of the Master Of Figure Skating Series (formerly
> known at the Hatchet Job Invitational Series), or
> what Don Del Grande has called the "Cup Of
> Chuckie" Series.
>
> If this is the last season of the series, I would
> love for it to end with an Aussie winning one
> event in the GP final, and it is possible. If this
> is to be the last Masters Series, I would love
> nothing more than to see an Aussie win the
> last one. We have two Australian ladies that
> could do it, if they can just keep from melting
> down in the long.

There is not even one Aussie skater with a chance to win a medal in any
skating discipline.

So, why do you think it's acceptable to steal people's nationalities.

> If the Masters Final is to
> be the last, I would love nothing more than
> to go out yelling "Aussie Aussie Aussie" into
> the mic at the top of my lungs one last time,
> as an Aussie wins. That is the way I would
> love to go out.

Since there are no Aussies, it's great to know that you won't get any
pleasure.

> Ladies
>
> 1995 Michelle Kwan USA
> 1996 Tara Lapinski USA
> 1997 Tara Lapinski USA
> 1998 Tatiana Malinina Uzbekistan
> 1999 Irina Slutskaya Russia
> 2000 Irina Skutskaya Russia
> 2001 Irina Slutsskaya Russia
> 2002 Sasha Cohen USA
> 2003 Fumi Suguri Japan
> 2004 Irina Slutskaya Australia
> 2005 Mao Asada Ognian Federation

You were doing so well and then you chose to steal Mao's nationality.

Why?

> 2006 Kim Yu-Na South Korea
> 2007 Kim Yu0Na South Korea
> 2008 Mao Asada Ognian Federaton

And there you go doing it a 2nd time.

Why the fuck do you think it is acceptable to do this?

> 2009 Kim Yu Na South Korea
> 2010 Alissa Czisny USA
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> Men
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> 1995 Alexei Urmanov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia

There's no such place.

Urmanov is Russian.

Why do you feel free to steal his nationality?

> 1996 Elvis Stojko Australia

How dare you steal a good Canadian's nationality; what gives you the
right?

> 1997 Ilya Kulik Russia
> 1998 Alexei Yagudin Russia
> 1999 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
> 2000 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
> 2001 Alexei Yagudin Russia
> 2002 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
> 2003 Emmanuel Sandhu Canada
> 2004 Evgeni Pliushenko Russia
> 2005 Stephane Lambiel Switzerland
> 2006 Brian Joubert France
> 2007 Stephane Lambiel Switzerland
> 2008 Jeremy Abbott United States
> 2009 Evan Lysacek St Kitts

And why do you think you can steal American Lysacek's nationality? By
doing so, you're also stealing the US's gold medal from the 2010
Olympics; why do you think you can commit such a treasonous act?

> 2010 Patrick Chan Canada
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> Ice Dancing
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> 1995 Grishuck/Platov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia

There's no such place.

Grischuk/Platov skated for Russia.

Why do you feel free to steal their nationality?

> 1996 Bourne/Kraat Canada
> 1997 Grishuck/Platov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia

There's no such place.

Grischuk/Platov skated for Russia.

Why do you feel free to steal their nationality?

> 1998 Kylova/Ovsianikov Turkmenistan

How dare you steal their Russian nationality?

> 1999 Annisina/Al-Peizerat United Arab Emirates

There's no such skater named Al-Peizerat.

Why do you feel free to steal his name as well as his nationality?

> 2000 Fusar-Poli/Margagalio Italy
> 2001 Bourne/Kraatz Canada
> 2002 Lobacheva/Averbukh Russia
> 2003 Nava/Kostomorov United Oblasts of Bellinsguazenia