Sore scrotum, right testicle ache, tender nuts: is it a running walking sports injury?

raylopez99

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Let's call this the "sore nut" problem--is this a running disorder?

OK, first things first: I'm not looking for medical advice from this
post (I intend to see a doctor at some point) but just as a level of
comfort (I'm on the road for the next couple of months for business,
and I doubt I'll have time for even a routine medical checkup during
this time, and this is a problem that I don't want to run to see the
doctor over, since it's kind of subtle and my doctor is very much the
render first-aid/ fix serious problems only type doctor--and I think
he thinks I'm a hypercondriac since sometimes I bug him over tiny
moles and stuff that he just waves off as trivial without much
inspection). Obviously I'm concerned that this is not some dread
incurable disease of the autoimmune or virus type that cannot be
managed / cured before I get to sow my oats.

Symptom: very dull, occasional, almost imperceptible throbbing or
'pain' (sensation, not really pain, just a sensation) of the right
testicle.

Factors: I noticed this about the same time as I noticed periformis /
iliotibial band pain, which I develop from time to time when I don't
take timeout to stretch, since, as is my habit from time to time, I
overdid my exercise regime (I like to hike for several hours a day,
and for a few days did more than my usual regime without stretching
and sitting on a tennis ball), so from the below, I infer that this
might be a 'pinched nerve' (apparently one particular nerve wraps
around the testicles, a sciatic nerve, if I'm reading the below
correctly). I wear regular white 'tight' briefs when hiking, not the
boxer or mesh underwear.

More factors: single, early 40s, sexually active but unfortunately
mostly with just myself (in fact, it might be this problem is related
to excessive masturbation, something my mother's warned me about, LOL,
as I developed this pain after an unusually long and frequent series
of autoeroticism encounters over a couple of days about a week ago--4
or 5 in one day-- free online porn is great but a double edged sword --
I was just about to brag about how great sex is when over 40 is and
then this happens). No unusual discharges (blood, urine, semen) above
normal, insofar as I can tell. No lumps as far as I can tell.

Another factor: a stray dog bit me in the arse pretty deep and the
doctor gave me antibiotics, which I declined to take, several months
ago. I don't think this is epididymitis or orchitis (see below) but I
could be wrong.

I guess the bottom line is this: pain in the nuts (right nut), *can*
it be from too much exercise / pinched nerve / too much sex? Again, I
do intend to see a doctor at some point if the 'pain' (very dull
trobbing sensation, mostly only when I stand up or bend over, so it
might be those other muscles at work impacting a nerve--and I'm still
sore from overdoing my exercise) persists.

All serious comments and even not so serious comments welcome. Hope
my boss, who knows my true identity, is not reading this--hey, stop
that Sam!

Gotta go--exercise. Have to get my runner's high. It's either that
or taking habit forming drugs, my choice!

RL

>From the internet (very hard to filter the noise when you Google
"testicles hanging pain" BTW, you have to use better keywords, LOL)

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My Other Topics Posted : Mar 26, 2007 8:02:26 AM
Subject : Testicles Ache

I sometimes have this kind of aching feeling in my right Testicle,
when i touch or walk... is it ok? its like it is caused by lack of
support? sometimes if it moves too much its feels this way... is it
normal?

Edit: I want to add, i am not sure if its the lower abs aching also,
but i still think its the testicle(right) also. recently after i
masturbated i felt a pain around the area in my penis the Testicle and
the area nearby. i has always happened once in awhile, maybe bad blood
circulation, but i want to ask is it ok or normal?

[Modified by: aaaaaa on 26 March 2007 09:59:33 ]
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ACrossy
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My Other Topics Posted : Mar 26, 2007 10:51:43 AM
Subject :

Testicles Ache

I suffered the same problem and when i went to the hospital they
identified it as a varicose vein. Feel the back of your scrotum and if
you can feel something like a 'thick worm' this could be what is
causing you the problem. If not go to the doctors and get it checked
out.
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jim001
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My Other Topics Posted : Mar 26, 2007 11:38:56 AM
Subject :

Testicles Ache

i had an ache in my tesicle 3 weeks ago, pain got so severe had to be
taken to hospital they said it was epididymitis-orchitis [http://
www.urologychannel.com/epididymitis-orchitis/index.shtml; see also:
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/10467.html] had
antibotics for 3 weeks , bloody sore

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My Other Topics Posted : Mar 26, 2007 1:29:25 PM
Subject :

Testicles Ache

Thanks both of u. i think its varicose vein. Then what do i do? i am
very veiny.. can even see veins on my penis... i can feel veins. yes.
but not sure of its those tubes carrying sperms.

Testicles Ache

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http://www.jaaos.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/8/507

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/MensHealth/messages/1438.html

huge numbers of studies on variations in the branching of the sciatic
nerve near
the piriformis muscle - or on the pudendal nerve in men, and the
nerves that go
into the penis and scrotum,

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In article <20000120122846.03561.00000...@ng-bg1.aol.com>,
scvo...@aol.com

(Scvogel) wrote:
> Yeah but Mike -- and by the way I've read many of your posts on this board for
> quite a while and always respect your opinions and certainly your posted times
> -- anyway, Dr. Magg may be a self-promoter, but is he on to something? If you
> get a chance, read his theory--it sounds plausible, one poster here said it
> worked for him. I'm on a quest, having struggled against a chronic IT
band for
> six years now and consulted maybe 8 doctors--so I'm open to try anything that
> sounds reasonable. Obviously, he wants you to buy his Stick and nutritional
> supplement, but I'll do it if the program stands a good chance of helping me.
> Again, thanks for all your many fine posts....Steve

Thought this might be helpful in how the pelvic muscles do their
stuff.
Remember the IT Band is the tendonous sheath that is part of the
tensor
fascia lata. Then you have to consider that if the adductor/groin
area
muscles are also tight then the ouside IT is being strained. I'll
repost
an IT Band that might be helpful.

Ozzie

Post from private correspondence.

>Dear Ozzie,
>I was wondering if you might be able to advise me on a
>problem I've developed recently. I'm 36 yrs of age, 5 ft 9 in, 155 lbs. I
>run about 50 miles a week, do speed workout (usually interval miles) once a
>week, & run long (90 mins to 2 hrs) once a week (also rest at least one day
>a week). Recently, I've developed a very sore pelvis. I think I notice it
>a bit more after speed work or long runs, but those don't trigger it
>invariably & aren't the only things that aggravate it. When it flares up,
>I feel it inhibits my stride & makes me feel awkward when I try to run
>fast. Any ideas?
>Many thanks!

Sore Pelvis? Hmmmmm. Iliac crest? Pubic bone? Floor of the
pelvis...pain between the anus and scrotum? Sore would mean that
it's a
dull numbing pain that you know it's with you but you can quite put
your
finger on it...figuratively speaking.

Remember that the iliopsoas= iliacus (attaches from the iliac crest
down
the inside of the pelvis)+ psoas (it's the filet mignon- and goes from
L1
to L5 attaching on the inside of the spine) and both iliacus and
psoas
insert into the lesser trochanter of the femur. Those two muscles are
the
muscles that lift the thigh toward the body. If you lift one leg us
straight, it's the iliopsoas that's doing it.

Have someone do a medium high kick. As they do it you will notice
that the
body is pulled down. So what happens is that the psoas has
shortened...most often because you slouch. When you kick the leg up
higher
than the tightened psoas can stretch, it pulls the spine forward and
down.
When it is strong and elongated, the upper body stays erect and the
psoas
allows one to do a high kick...even above their head.

>From John Jesse

The main movers affecting the hip movement
Flexors: Ilioposas, rectus femoris, pectineus
Extensors: Gluteus maximus, hamstrings
Abductors: (ab=away from the body midline sideways) Gluteus medius,
helped
by the tensor fascia latae,(the infamous IT Band)
Adductors: (ad= to or toward the midline) Pectineus, gracilis,
adductor
longus, brevis and magnus.
Inward Rotators: Tensor fasciae latae (IT Band), gluteus minimus
assisted
by hamstrings.
Outward Rotators: Gluteus maximus and the six outward rotators, and
assisted by posterior fibres of the gluteus medius and minimus.

The pelvis is balanced on the femoral (thigh) bones. The pelvic angle
of
inclination is dependent on the balanced posture of the hip joints and
the
muscles controlling the pelvis and maintaining the balance. In the
upright
erect position, the thigs are the fixed points from which the muscles
act.
(pp 95-96 Hidden Causes of Injury, Prevention and Correction for
Running
Athletes and Joggers, c.1977)

If the quads are too tight the pelvis tilts forward from where it
should be
balanced. If the hamstrings are tight, from slouching when you're
sitting
or at your computer, the quads have to word against an antagonist
muscle
that is shortened. Also the psoas is shortened in slouching posture.

Usually someone like a Rolfer goes in and releases the fascia around
the
tightened muscles and also around the pelvis that give you that tight
feeling.

Some stuff I do.

Sit on tennis balls under the hamstrings and sit up straight.

Practicing sitting up straighter without forcing it. Sit up, and
forget.
5 minutes later, sit up and forget about it.

Rolling the quads and IT Band. (See Ozzie rolling people's IT Bands
on
stree gutters) http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.html

Find how to stretch the psoas and do
it...lovingly and gracefully. Any overstretch will only put tension
on the
spine or the insertion point.

Get one of those Swedish exercise balls and lay your back on it.
Gradually be able to bend further and further back...with no strain
or
effort.

Always slow and easy.

Main thing is sitting standing and walking with a erect body. The
Alexander Technique, imagines that you are lifting your head a quarter
of
an inch higher and that the rest of the body follow. Even when
bending
down, or reaching down, there's is always the thinking of the quarter
inch
up.

Finally, send $15 dollars for John Jesse's book. It will be a
reference
for a long time to come for you. I've been using it for 20+ years and
it's
still some of the best explained info on injuries, causes and
prevention.

Take care and let me know how it goes.

--
In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975

Mindful Running: http://www.mindfulness.com

Hannibal the hungry runner

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> Let's call this the "sore nut" problem--is this a running disorder?

Um dude, you are single, lonely, travel a lot, AND you are right
handed. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out that you are
putting on a "different kind of love scene" several dozen times a day,
and that the continuous pounding on the right testicle is obviously the
issue.

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> On Nov 9, 9:59 am, raylopez99 <raylope...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's call this the "sore nut" problem--is this a running disorder?
>
> Um dude, you are single, lonely, travel a lot, AND you are right
> handed. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out that you are
> putting on a "different kind of love scene" several dozen times a day,
> and that the continuous pounding on the right testicle is obviously the
> issue.
>

I was thinking the same thing.

Kevysmom

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He was told that he can become infertile from all the riding. I can
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ie: gay as fuck.

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Gav get sore nuts wehn he over due it sometime I ty to tell him two tak it
easy but he no litsen two me.
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>
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>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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>Eyes; Little Eyes; Mugly; Bagpipe Bunny; Billy Bunny; Billy Buns; Billy
>Rubin; Billy the Kids; Friendly Fanny; Billy Holiday; and Willy Dilly.
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
> Eyes:
>
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>
>
> The Story of the Incurable Sexual Offender
>
> Currently on probation and spending hours a day on Usenet
>stalking and insulting the other contributors and subscribers, William
>Davidson has been known to Massachusetts authorities for years. Most of his

>offenses have been of an overtly sexual nature; others range from proximity

>crimes, such as stalking, peeping, and verbal assault, mostly against women,
>toward whom he can barely contain his hatred and envy. According to one of

>the therapists acquainted with him from one of his court-ordered

>observational sessions, his disdain for women and his sexual depravity have

>created a schism in his personality, a roiling conflict which renders him

>unable to develop beyond a callow, graphitti-based understanding of human

>sexuality. In his terminally stunted development, he still thinks "mooning"

>equates with "rakish," and that using butt for but and cum for come in his

>correspondences are examples of hilarity. Such is his level of development.

>The company he keeps doesn't help, since his friends are just about on that
>same emotional level.
>
> Bill "Truckstop Pappy" Davidson often brags to other drunks that

>he's on a first-name basis with, and has the cellphone number of, Chris
>Hanson, producer of and star journalist on MSNBC's exploitative To Catch a

>Predator. While he has in fact met Hanson on eight occasions, Hanson was

>always emerging from a back room of the house into the kitchen, his

>microphone and camera crew trailing behind him, catching Bill in some
>instances literally with his pants down, and other times wearing none at
>all, and on one occasion attired in bra and panties. One time, Bill showed
>up wearing a tartan skirt. When confronted by Hanson, Bill claimed it was a
>kilt, that he was celebrating his Scottish heritage. He was celebrating,
>all right, but it wasn't Scottish heritage. A transcript of the chatroom
>flirtation that led up to this encounter revealed that he'd been coaxing the

>online decoy by claiming to be a 25-year-old gay Catholic-school graduate

>looking to have sex with a 14-year-old boy. When Hanson entered the kitchen
>doorway with his camera crew, the glare of the spotlight on Bill's trademark
>outsized glasses - for which he'd been nicknamed in his teens "Volkswagon
>Bill"; or just "Volkswagon" - gave him the look of an owl, while obviously

>lacking that bird's proverbial wisdom: that episode was his fifth
>conviction. Despite the financial consequences of his arrests, he construes

>these incidents as milestones in his "career" in show business. In one

>sting operation, he approached the vice officer with the claim, "I'm famous.

>You want to have sex with someone famous?" In the predawn hours, as Bill

>was bonded out, the same officer held out the release form and sardonically

>chided, "Before you can leave, Billy Buns, can I get your autograph on
>this?"
>
> Bill began his career in earnest around the age of fourteen.
>Because he was a juvenile, the record of his earliest offenses has been

>sealed. A simple neighborhood query reveals that one incident involved
>punching a girl in the face for her refusing to relinquish her panties. She

>was six years old. His ambivalence toward females - while mostly an
>intense hatred - goes back that far. He denigrates them at every
>opportunity. After coercing some unsuspecting victim into letting him take
>semi-nude and nude pictures of her, he posted proof of his conquest on
>Photobucket. See. He's a man. He has sex with women. Get it?

>
> His first non-televised conviction was at Boston's South
>Central. Attracted to what's referred to by the sexually frustrated

>participants as "tea rooms," Bill sat in a toilet stall and tapped the shoe
>of the man seated in the next stall. This was Bill's first encounter with a
>vice cop. Another time, after stating aloud, "I ain't pussy-footin'

>around," he gripped the bottom edge of the partition with both hands and

>slid under it to invade the other side. The patron, startled by this sudden

>unwarranted intrusion, in one motion stood up and hoisted his pants, then

>stomped on Billy's dumb face, breaking his glasses. Bill was bewildered
>when the patron ran into the lobby and called the police. So depraved, Bill
>is unable to comprehend that not everyone is into that sort of thing. He
>seemed totally unaware of the magnitude of his offense. As the police
>officer ratcheted the handcuffs around his writs, Bill asked benighly, "Can
>I get a band-aid for my glasses?"

>
> With each conviction came further restrictions with whom he

>could mingle, and soon sexual contacts were harder for Bill to accomplish.
>But not impossible. As councilors can tell you, addicts can be extremely

>inventive at times. Though he fails more often than he succeeds - leading

>to expensive court proceedings, and eventuating in his divorce - Bill does
>manage to get the "hook up" now and again. As he did with the previously
>mentioned woman in the photos he uploaded to Photobucket. In that instant,
>he was so impressed with what for the rest of us would be a typical sexual
>encounter, he photographed her. He's a cross between a thirteen-year-old
>male amazed by his cum-stained underwear, and a serial killer, who keeps
>trophies. Like panties. And bras. And jockstraps.
>
> Yes, he's had a couple of jockstraps. Chris Hanson owns
>footage of Billy wearing one - on his face. The jockstrap was very tight on
>his nose, betraying the approximate age of the previous owner.
>
> Thanks to his low intelligence, the children in the communities
>in which he's taken up residence have been safe. The level of awareness of
>child molesters being what it is, he immediately appears as a blip on the
>calibrated radars, and he's perforce constrained into being a "peeper." But
>to categorize him under the rubric of child molester is to too narrowly
>define his pathology. Oh, no. It's much deeper than that. He craves
>attention. He needs you to believe he's a lothario, a lady's man, which he
>hopes militates toward the image of a man's man (and oh, wouldn't he just
>love that). He needs you to believe he has more machismo than the entire
>male cast of Porky's and American Pie combined. It's his raison d'être. In
>short, he needs you to be impressed, and he's furious when you aren't. The
>means he's furious just about all the time.
>
> Be warned. Like most deviates, all that's required to get
>Bill's attention is that you cross his vision. That's all it takes. That
>skull of his contains a simple mind, lacking in even a smidgen of
>sophistication, which makes it possible for him to achieve an astonishing
>singularity of purpose, as long as the purpose is simple and base. Then he
>locks on, and the stalking begins. There is nothing to truly fear in
>challenging him. It will neither change his level of hostility one way or
>the other. He's seen you; that's all that matters. When he struts and
>bellows and threatens on Usenet, be assured it's all bravado and
>braggadocio, made possible by the reality of a safe distance.
>
>
>
>
>
>INDEED!!!

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> http://www.ironeyefortress.com/billdavidson.html
>
> http://www.ironeyefortress.com/BillDavidson_i.html
>
> Level 3 Sexual Offender Flyer
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Name:
> William Davidson
>
> Alias(es):
> Bobbing Bill; Cheapers Creepers; Creepers Peepers;
> Volkswagon; Volkswagon Bill; Schoolyard Billy; Truckstop Pappy; Fanny
> Four Eyes; Little Eyes; Mugly; Bagpipe Bunny; Billy Bunny; Billy Buns;
> Billy Rubin; Billy the Kids; Friendly Fanny; Billy Holiday; and Willy
> Dilly.
>
> Age:
> About 50 in some chatrooms; on MySpace, between 13 and
> 16.
>
> Hair:
> Bilirubin brown
>
> Eyes:
>
> Panty blue
>
> The Story of the Incurable Sexual Offender
>
> Currently on probation and spending hours a day on Usenet
> stalking and insulting the other contributors and subscribers, William

> Davidson has been known to Massachusetts authorities for years. Most of

> his offenses have been of an overtly sexual nature; others range from

> proximity crimes, such as stalking, peeping, and verbal assault, mostly
> against women, toward whom he can barely contain his hatred and envy.

> According to one of the therapists acquainted with him from one of his
> court-ordered observational sessions, his disdain for women and his

> sexual depravity have created a schism in his personality, a roiling

> conflict which renders him unable to develop beyond a callow,

> graphitti-based understanding of human sexuality. In his terminally

> stunted development, he still thinks "mooning" equates with "rakish," and

> that using butt for but and cum for come in his correspondences are

> examples of hilarity. Such is his level of development. The company he
> keeps doesn't help, since his friends are just about on that same
> emotional level.
>

> Bill "Truckstop Pappy" Davidson often brags to other drunks

> that he's on a first-name basis with, and has the cellphone number of,
> Chris Hanson, producer of and star journalist on MSNBC's exploitative To

> Catch a Predator. While he has in fact met Hanson on eight occasions,

> Hanson was always emerging from a back room of the house into the
> kitchen, his microphone and camera crew trailing behind him, catching

> Bill in some instances literally with his pants down, and other times
> wearing none at all, and on one occasion attired in bra and panties. One
> time, Bill showed up wearing a tartan skirt. When confronted by Hanson,
> Bill claimed it was a kilt, that he was celebrating his Scottish
> heritage. He was celebrating, all right, but it wasn't Scottish

> heritage. A transcript of the chatroom flirtation that led up to this
> encounter revealed that he'd been coaxing the online decoy by claiming to

> be a 25-year-old gay Catholic-school graduate looking to have sex with a

> 14-year-old boy. When Hanson entered the kitchen doorway with his camera

> crew, the glare of the spotlight on Bill's trademark outsized glasses -
> for which he'd been nicknamed in his teens "Volkswagon Bill"; or just

> "Volkswagon" - gave him the look of an owl, while obviously lacking that
> bird's proverbial wisdom: that episode was his fifth conviction. Despite
> the financial consequences of his arrests, he construes these incidents

> as milestones in his "career" in show business. In one sting operation,

> he approached the vice officer with the claim, "I'm famous. You want to

> have sex with someone famous?" In the predawn hours, as Bill was bonded

> out, the same officer held out the release form and sardonically chided,

> "Before you can leave, Billy Buns, can I get your autograph on this?"
>
> Bill began his career in earnest around the age of fourteen.
> Because he was a juvenile, the record of his earliest offenses has been

> sealed. A simple neighborhood query reveals that one incident involved
> punching a girl in the face for her refusing to relinquish her panties.

> She was six years old. His ambivalence toward females - while mostly an
> intense hatred - goes back that far. He denigrates them at every
> opportunity. After coercing some unsuspecting victim into letting him
> take semi-nude and nude pictures of her, he posted proof of his conquest
> on Photobucket. See. He's a man. He has sex with women. Get it?
>

> His first non-televised conviction was at Boston's South
> Central. Attracted to what's referred to by the sexually frustrated

> participants as "tea rooms," Bill sat in a toilet stall and tapped the
> shoe of the man seated in the next stall. This was Bill's first

> encounter with a vice cop. Another time, after stating aloud, "I ain't

> pussy-footin' around," he gripped the bottom edge of the partition with

> both hands and slid under it to invade the other side. The patron,

> startled by this sudden unwarranted intrusion, in one motion stood up and

> hoisted his pants, then stomped on Billy's dumb face, breaking his
> glasses. Bill was bewildered when the patron ran into the lobby and
> called the police. So depraved, Bill is unable to comprehend that not
> everyone is into that sort of thing. He seemed totally unaware of the
> magnitude of his offense. As the police officer ratcheted the handcuffs
> around his writs, Bill asked benighly, "Can I get a band-aid for my
> glasses?"
>

> With each conviction came further restrictions with whom he

> could mingle, and soon sexual contacts were harder for Bill to
> accomplish. But not impossible. As councilors can tell you, addicts can

> be extremely inventive at times. Though he fails more often than he
> succeeds - leading to expensive court proceedings, and eventuating in his

> divorce - Bill does manage to get the "hook up" now and again. As he did
> with the previously mentioned woman in the photos he uploaded to
> Photobucket. In that instant, he was so impressed with what for the rest
> of us would be a typical sexual encounter, he photographed her. He's a
> cross between a thirteen-year-old male amazed by his cum-stained
> underwear, and a serial killer, who keeps trophies. Like panties. And
> bras. And jockstraps.
>
> Yes, he's had a couple of jockstraps. Chris Hanson owns
> footage of Billy wearing one - on his face. The jockstrap was very tight
> on his nose, betraying the approximate age of the previous owner.
>
> Thanks to his low intelligence, the children in the
> communities in which he's taken up residence have been safe. The level

> of awareness of child molesters being what it is, he immediately appears
> as a blip on the calibrated radars, and he's perforce constrained into

> being a "peeper." But to categorize him under the rubric of child

>>Volkswagon; Volkswagon Bill; Schoolyard Billy; Truckstop Pappy; Fanny Four

>>Eyes; Little Eyes; Mugly; Bagpipe Bunny; Billy Bunny; Billy Buns; Billy
>>Rubin; Billy the Kids; Friendly Fanny; Billy Holiday; and Willy Dilly.
>>
>>
>> Age:
>> About 50 in some chatrooms; on MySpace, between 13 and
>> 16.
>>
>>
>> Hair:
>> Bilirubin brown
>>
>>
>> Eyes:
>>
>> Panty blue
>>
>>
>> The Story of the Incurable Sexual Offender
>>
>> Currently on probation and spending hours a day on Usenet
>>stalking and insulting the other contributors and subscribers, William

>>Davidson has been known to Massachusetts authorities for years. Most of

>>his
>>offenses have been of an overtly sexual nature; others range from
>>proximity

>>crimes, such as stalking, peeping, and verbal assault, mostly against
>>women,
>>toward whom he can barely contain his hatred and envy. According to one

>>of
>>the therapists acquainted with him from one of his court-ordered

>>observational sessions, his disdain for women and his sexual depravity

>>have
>>created a schism in his personality, a roiling conflict which renders him

>>unable to develop beyond a callow, graphitti-based understanding of human

>>sexuality. In his terminally stunted development, he still thinks
>>"mooning"

>>equates with "rakish," and that using butt for but and cum for come in his

>>correspondences are examples of hilarity. Such is his level of
>>development.

>>The company he keeps doesn't help, since his friends are just about on
>>that
>>same emotional level.
>>

>> Bill "Truckstop Pappy" Davidson often brags to other drunks

>> that
>>he's on a first-name basis with, and has the cellphone number of, Chris
>>Hanson, producer of and star journalist on MSNBC's exploitative To Catch a

>>Predator. While he has in fact met Hanson on eight occasions, Hanson was

>>always emerging from a back room of the house into the kitchen, his

>>microphone and camera crew trailing behind him, catching Bill in some
>>instances literally with his pants down, and other times wearing none at

>>all, and on one occasion attired in bra and panties. One time, Bill
>>showed

>>up wearing a tartan skirt. When confronted by Hanson, Bill claimed it was

>>a
>>kilt, that he was celebrating his Scottish heritage. He was celebrating,
>>all right, but it wasn't Scottish heritage. A transcript of the chatroom

>>flirtation that led up to this encounter revealed that he'd been coaxing

>>the
>>online decoy by claiming to be a 25-year-old gay Catholic-school graduate

>>looking to have sex with a 14-year-old boy. When Hanson entered the
>>kitchen
>>doorway with his camera crew, the glare of the spotlight on Bill's
>>trademark
>>outsized glasses - for which he'd been nicknamed in his teens "Volkswagon
>>Bill"; or just "Volkswagon" - gave him the look of an owl, while

>>obviously
>>lacking that bird's proverbial wisdom: that episode was his fifth
>>conviction. Despite the financial consequences of his arrests, he
>>construes

>>these incidents as milestones in his "career" in show business. In one

>>sting operation, he approached the vice officer with the claim, "I'm
>>famous.

>>You want to have sex with someone famous?" In the predawn hours, as Bill

>>was bonded out, the same officer held out the release form and
>>sardonically

>>chided, "Before you can leave, Billy Buns, can I get your autograph on
>>this?"
>>
>> Bill began his career in earnest around the age of fourteen.
>>Because he was a juvenile, the record of his earliest offenses has been

>>sealed. A simple neighborhood query reveals that one incident involved
>>punching a girl in the face for her refusing to relinquish her panties.
>>She

>>was six years old. His ambivalence toward females - while mostly an

>>intense hatred - goes back that far. He denigrates them at every
>>opportunity. After coercing some unsuspecting victim into letting him
>>take
>>semi-nude and nude pictures of her, he posted proof of his conquest on

>>Photobucket. See. He's a man. He has sex with women. Get it?
>>

>> His first non-televised conviction was at Boston's South
>>Central. Attracted to what's referred to by the sexually frustrated

>>participants as "tea rooms," Bill sat in a toilet stall and tapped the
>>shoe
>>of the man seated in the next stall. This was Bill's first encounter with
>>a
>>vice cop. Another time, after stating aloud, "I ain't pussy-footin'

>>around," he gripped the bottom edge of the partition with both hands and

>>slid under it to invade the other side. The patron, startled by this

>>sudden
>>unwarranted intrusion, in one motion stood up and hoisted his pants, then

>>stomped on Billy's dumb face, breaking his glasses. Bill was bewildered

>>when the patron ran into the lobby and called the police. So depraved,

>>Bill
>>is unable to comprehend that not everyone is into that sort of thing. He

>>seemed totally unaware of the magnitude of his offense. As the police
>>officer ratcheted the handcuffs around his writs, Bill asked benighly,
>>"Can
>>I get a band-aid for my glasses?"
>>

>> With each conviction came further restrictions with whom he

>>could mingle, and soon sexual contacts were harder for Bill to accomplish.
>>But not impossible. As councilors can tell you, addicts can be extremely

>>inventive at times. Though he fails more often than he succeeds - leading

>>to expensive court proceedings, and eventuating in his divorce - Bill does
>>manage to get the "hook up" now and again. As he did with the previously

>>mentioned woman in the photos he uploaded to Photobucket. In that
>>instant,
>>he was so impressed with what for the rest of us would be a typical sexual
>>encounter, he photographed her. He's a cross between a thirteen-year-old
>>male amazed by his cum-stained underwear, and a serial killer, who keeps
>>trophies. Like panties. And bras. And jockstraps.
>>
>> Yes, he's had a couple of jockstraps. Chris Hanson owns
>>footage of Billy wearing one - on his face. The jockstrap was very tight
>>on
>>his nose, betraying the approximate age of the previous owner.
>>
>> Thanks to his low intelligence, the children in the
>> communities
>>in which he's taken up residence have been safe. The level of awareness
>>of

>>child molesters being what it is, he immediately appears as a blip on the
>>calibrated radars, and he's perforce constrained into being a "peeper."
>>But

--

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