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Cato

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Nov 5, 2008, 6:04:39 PM11/5/08
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Not that McCain would have been perfect. Far from it. But at least
he wouldn't have taken America down the Socialist road as quickly as
Obama is going to do. Don't get me wrong. George W. Bush was a
disaster as well. The huge spending programs have been a disaster.

I think of the Stature of Liberty, and what She symbolizes. I
think of Liberty on the old U.S. Morgan dollar and Mercury dime. (Not
actually Mercury, but Liberty)

What has happened to America? What does this mean for those people
around the world that are friends of Freedom and look to the U.S. to
help build a Free world?

The Founding Fathers of the United States must be rolling in their
graves to see what the country they created has come to be.

I'm not a U.S. citizen, I'm a Canadian. If I had voting rights in
the U.S. I would have supported Ron Paul. Small Government, Individual
Freedom, Personal Responsibility.
I can't vote down there, but knowing I have the right to be free, I
do have the right to comment, since it effects us up here too.
But to my U.S. friends and relatives, I say, I worry for you and
all of us in the world that look to the U.S. as a defender of Freedom.

God help us all.
Cato.

Bob Campbell

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Nov 5, 2008, 6:54:05 PM11/5/08
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"Cato" <cato...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:e90a908d-8ff6-4b5b...@t18g2000prt.googlegroups.com...

> What has happened to America? What does this mean for those people
> around the world that are friends of Freedom and look to the U.S. to
> help build a Free world?

It means very little. Its just an election, ya know? Its not the end of
the world.

I remember everyone feeling good and progressive and happy and relieved when
we elected Carter in 1976. Yes I voted for Carter. 4 years later we were
only too happy to get rid of him. Say what you like about Reagan, but he
was the right person at the right time. Yes I voted for Reagan.

Not that any of this has anything to do with today. The point is just that
it is far too early to know anything. Right now everyone feels good and
progressive and happy and relieved. Obama could turn out like Carter
(complete disaster), or he could turn out like Reagan (right man at the
right time).

As always, time will tell. Everyone just needs to friggin chill out and
relax a bit. The election is FINALLY over. Let's get on with our lives.

Cato

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Nov 5, 2008, 8:51:16 PM11/5/08
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On Nov 5, 6:54 pm, "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:
> "Cato" <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

I know what you mean. As a Canadian, I liked Reagan. As you say, the
right man person at the right time. Same with Margaret Thatcher, (the
Iron Lady) the Prime Minister of England, who was a good friend of
President Reagan.
The two of them together changed the world at the time.

We'll see what happens with Obama as President. But I'm not very
optimistic, having read about his past, and the people surrounding him
over the years.

Bob Campbell

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Nov 5, 2008, 9:25:56 PM11/5/08
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"Cato" <cato...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>I know what you mean. As a Canadian, I liked Reagan. As you say, the
>right man person at the right time. Same with Margaret Thatcher, (the
>Iron Lady) the Prime Minister of England, who was a good friend of
>President Reagan.
> The two of them together changed the world at the time.

Yep. Both were strong leaders who knew what they wanted to do, and did it!
Together they pretty much defined the 80s, politically.

> We'll see what happens with Obama as President. But I'm not very
>optimistic, having read about his past, and the people surrounding him
>over the years.

All we can do is wait and see what happens. I wouldn't believe anything I
read about him up to this point. He has been campaigning. During the
campaign, you say whatever it takes to get elected, and your opponents are
saying whatever it takes to get you defeated. Lots of distortions and
outright lies on both sides.

Everybody relax, have a beer or 9, and chill out. :-)

Dave

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Nov 6, 2008, 9:02:23 AM11/6/08
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Cato wrote:

> What has happened to America? What does this mean for those people
> around the world that are friends of Freedom and look to the U.S. to
> help build a Free world?
>
> The Founding Fathers of the United States must be rolling in their
> graves to see what the country they created has come to be.
>

They would no-doubt see the USA at its finest. This country
experimented with Voodoo Reaganomics for 25 years, gave it a fair shot,
and decided that it doesn't work and that it's time to try something else.

Dave

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Nov 6, 2008, 9:04:47 AM11/6/08
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Cato wrote:

>
> What has happened to America? What does this mean for those people
> around the world that are friends of Freedom and look to the U.S. to
> help build a Free world?
>

The USA should lead by example. A lot of the world is skeptical about
our so-called "freedom". They see us as undisciplined slobs.

RHF

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Nov 6, 2008, 3:09:11 PM11/6/08
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Dave wrote:
> Cato wrote:
>
>> What has happened to America? What does this mean for those people
>> around the world that are friends of Freedom and look to the U.S. to
>> help build a Free world?
>>
>> The Founding Fathers of the United States must be rolling in their
>> graves to see what the country they created has come to be.

- They would no-doubt see the USA at its finest.
- This country experimented with Voodoo Reaganomics for 25 years,
- gave it a fair shot, and decided that it doesn't work
- and that it's time to try something else.

Dave - Why Worry About the Passed 25 Years ? :
When It Is The Future 4~8 Years of The-Age-of-Obama©
Which Is Ahead Of You To Life and Enjoy -or- To Suffer-Through !
.
Dave - Rejoice You Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrGLf4J33vU
* Age Of Aquarius -by- The 5th Dimension
-or- just say goodbye - to living-in-america* ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw
* Living In America -by- James Brown
.
.
Looking Forward to "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
Only Three Days Left To Blame America :
"The Age of Obama-R-Us"© Is Upon Us PTL !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7d7bfc133069cace
.
Anxiety Over Obama, Recession Hits Dow -or- ObamaNomics© In Action !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e42bb6f86ac17c46
.
ObamaNomics© will result in a Capital and Brain Drain from the USA
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2ac9a9d5e97b07fa
.
ok, Ok. OK ! The USA Is A Gigantic Mess : Counting the Days Until Obama
and the Democrats Fix It . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/aab231a83c78445b
.
The Coming "Age of Obama"© and ObamaNomics©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a5076b4723c7e29b
The Impending Economic Collapse of the USA
as orchestrated by George Soros et al.
.
The ObamaRay© {Big Government} Deflector Beanie
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5f29f4ec4ec5d8e6
.
The Continued Issue [Lingering Question] of Barack Hussein Obama
Certificate of Birth [Citizenship]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f54ec9432a7980ce
.
New Names for The U.S. - "We The Peoples" Republic of America
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fc5300707c436ad6
.
Get Ready for the New "BLAME OBAMA" Blame Game !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0f3d01b51cb9cdf0
.
As an American Who Loves His Country : I can now say
President Elect Barack Hussein Obama is "MY" future
US President {POTUS & CIC}.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss6lTP8BJ8
http://www.potus.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief#United_States
.
Dear Lord God {Allah} may Barack Hussein Obama
take his Oath-of-Office and Serve All the American
People with Honor and Distinction; and may the USA
Prosper under his Leadership - Amen ~ RHF
.

salty...@gmail.com

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Nov 6, 2008, 3:25:37 PM11/6/08
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more off topic garbage from rhf aka RETIRED HALFASSED FOOL

RHF

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Nov 6, 2008, 5:01:44 PM11/6/08
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salty...@gmail.com wrote:

- more off topic garbage from rhf aka RETIRED HALFASSED FOOL

Oh Name-Less 'messenger' that uses someone else's
Screen ID is NO "Messenger" at all, At All. AT ALL !
.
That goes for you too little fake phony {spineless}
'salty-fish-sa' without the 'uce' at gMail.Com.
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12.154.0.0 - 12.154.15.255
GPCom - http://www.gpcom.com/
Location : Blair, Nebraska 68008
.
Also appearing as one-in-the-many little
fake phony 'rhf' from 'gMail.com'
NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.154.10.254
GREAT PLAINS COMMUNICATIONS INC
GREAT-PL822-0 (NET-12-154-0-0-1)
12.154.0.0 - 12.154.15.255
GPCom - http://www.gpcom.com/
Location : Blair, Nebraska 68008
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RIGHTS - Everyone hear has the Right to Read-Me
-or- The Right Not Read Me {Ignore Me}
+Plus+ They can use Newsgroup Filters and "Plonk-Me"
.
REJECT - The real Capital "RHF"*
* Disregard any and all of the little spineless fake phony "rhf's"
* Know Your Stinking "RHF"s
* Accept No Substitutes ;;o)
.
-psa- This is "RHF" and I Stand Behind This Posting. ~ RHF
.

salty...@gmail.com

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Nov 6, 2008, 5:05:25 PM11/6/08
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Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.


RHF

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Nov 7, 2008, 12:35:47 AM11/7/08
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GREAT PLAINS COMMUNICATIONS INC
GREAT-PL822-0 (NET-12-154-0-0-1)
12.154.0.0 - 12.154.15.255
GPCom - http://www.gpcom.com/
Location : Blair, Nebraska 68008
.
spineless is as spineless does
fake is as fake does
phony is as phony does
.
List of Screen ID Steals :
'rhf.roy' at gMail.Com
'roy.rhf' at gMail.Com
'saltyfishsa' at gMail.Com
and now 'dxacer' at gMail.Com
all from NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.154.10.254
.

salty...@gmail.com

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RHF

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Nov 7, 2008, 12:31:45 PM11/7/08
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.
List of Screen ID Steals :
'rhf.roy' at gMail.Com
'roy.rhf' at gMail.Com
'saltyfishsa' without the 'uce' at gMail.Com

and now 'dxacer' at gMail.Com
all from NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.154.10.254
.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.154.10.254
GREAT PLAINS COMMUNICATIONS INC
GREAT-PL822-0 (NET-12-154-0-0-1)
12.154.0.0 - 12.154.15.255
GPCom - http://www.gpcom.com/
Location : Blair, Nebraska 68008
.
Spineless Fake Phony Screen ID Stealing
want-to-be :

spineless is as spineless does
fake is as fake does
phony is as phony does
TBL Result : No Creditability
.
Reminder : Kill-File the Initials "RHF" :
Accept No Fake Phony Little Screen ID Stealers
.

salty...@gmail.com

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cuh...@webtv.net

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Nov 7, 2008, 6:39:05 PM11/7/08
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When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
Empire/U.K.
cuhulin

BDK

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Nov 7, 2008, 11:42:52 PM11/7/08
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In article <22722-491...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,
cuh...@webtv.net says...

> When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
> Empire/U.K.
> cuhulin
>
>


Problem for you is, he was born in Hawaii.

Sane people know it.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

Telamon

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Nov 8, 2008, 12:48:09 AM11/8/08
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In article <MPG.237ee2d29...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:

> In article <22722-491...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,
> cuh...@webtv.net says...
> > When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
> > Empire/U.K.
> > cuhulin
> >
> >
>
>
> Problem for you is, he was born in Hawaii.

The problem for you is he wasn't.

> Sane people know it.

What would you know about that?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BDK

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Nov 8, 2008, 1:24:10 AM11/8/08
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In article <telamon_spamshield-F7B452.21480907112008
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...

> In article <MPG.237ee2d29...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
> BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <22722-491...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,
> > cuh...@webtv.net says...
> > > When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
> > > Empire/U.K.
> > > cuhulin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Problem for you is, he was born in Hawaii.
>
> The problem for you is he wasn't.

No, the problem is yours, as the vast majority of people, even many of
your fellow kooktards think you're a loon.

>
> > Sane people know it.
>
> What would you know about that?

You poor kook. Trying to claim I'm one of you..not a chance.

You're another one my ex girlfriend would love to meet. She's a psych,
and would love to do a paper on a kook as kooky as you are. Are you
under 18? She's a kid shrink, and that's about as old a person she can
take as a client.

She really hates it when I use the word kook, but she does laugh at a
lot of you....kooks.

Telamon

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Nov 8, 2008, 2:39:52 PM11/8/08
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In article <MPG.237efa923...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:

> In article <telamon_spamshield-F7B452.21480907112008
> @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
> telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
> > In article <MPG.237ee2d29...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
> > BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <22722-491...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,
> > > cuh...@webtv.net says...
> > > > When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
> > > > Empire/U.K.
> > > > cuhulin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Problem for you is, he was born in Hawaii.
> >
> > The problem for you is he wasn't.
>
> No, the problem is yours, as the vast majority of people, even many of
> your fellow kooktards think you're a loon.

So you being KOOK think I'm wrong? I'm supposed to be surprised at that?

> > > Sane people know it.

You know nothing about sanity.



> > What would you know about that?
>
> You poor kook. Trying to claim I'm one of you..not a chance.

Yes you are a KOOK.

> You're another one my ex girlfriend would love to meet. She's a psych,
> and would love to do a paper on a kook as kooky as you are. Are you
> under 18? She's a kid shrink, and that's about as old a person she can
> take as a client.

That's not your girlfriend, that's one of your white suited attendants.



> She really hates it when I use the word kook, but she does laugh at a
> lot of you....kooks.

Then he gives you another shot to calm you down. Now put that toy gun
away and settle down.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BDK

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Nov 8, 2008, 11:04:05 PM11/8/08
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In article <telamon_spamshield-8BBB2C.11395208112008
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
> In article <MPG.237efa923...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
> BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <telamon_spamshield-F7B452.21480907112008
> > @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
> > telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
> > > In article <MPG.237ee2d29...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
> > > BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <22722-491...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,
> > > > cuh...@webtv.net says...
> > > > > When Obama was born in Kenya, Kenya was still part of the British
> > > > > Empire/U.K.
> > > > > cuhulin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Problem for you is, he was born in Hawaii.
> > >
> > > The problem for you is he wasn't.
> >
> > No, the problem is yours, as the vast majority of people, even many of
> > your fellow kooktards think you're a loon.
>
> So you being KOOK think I'm wrong? I'm supposed to be surprised at that?

No, me being a sane person, one of hundreds of millions that know you're
a deluded kooktard.

>
> > > > Sane people know it.
>
> You know nothing about sanity.

I know a hell of a lot more about it than you seem to.

>
> > > What would you know about that?
> >
> > You poor kook. Trying to claim I'm one of you..not a chance.
>
> Yes you are a KOOK.

No, so sorry. It doesn't work that way. I haven't been posting claims an
insane story is true, have I?

>
> > You're another one my ex girlfriend would love to meet. She's a psych,
> > and would love to do a paper on a kook as kooky as you are. Are you
> > under 18? She's a kid shrink, and that's about as old a person she can
> > take as a client.
>
> That's not your girlfriend, that's one of your white suited attendants.

BWHAHAHAA! You're flailing.

>
> > She really hates it when I use the word kook, but she does laugh at a
> > lot of you....kooks.
>
> Then he gives you another shot to calm you down. Now put that toy gun
> away and settle down.

You really are a pitiful kooktard. Keep the insanity coming.

I know I can count on you. You've got it bad.

Telamon

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Nov 9, 2008, 3:02:13 PM11/9/08
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In article <MPG.23802b423...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote:

Calm down and take your meds or your white suited attendants will have
to strap you down again.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BDK

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Nov 10, 2008, 1:23:03 AM11/10/08
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In article <telamon_spamshield-117C26.12021309112008


Poor Telemundo, you don't seem to understand believing in the Obama BC
nonsense raises your kooktardery to an extreme level. Trying to claim
I'm crazy doesn't fly, when the person claiming it is a raving lunatic
himself who claims the BC story has any validity whatsoever.

You don't know how comical you are. But I do, as do most sane folks.

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