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PocketRadio

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Jan 7, 2009, 1:07:55 AM1/7/09
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"Bonneville pulls iChannel Music"

Bonneville has pulled the plug on its iChannel Music HD Network and
streaming. For the most part, it has replaced the HD multicast with
WorldBand Media content (brokered ethnic programming). iChannel
allowed indie bands to upload their music online for consideration.
The network included Chicago at 101.9 HD2;
Washington D.C. at 103.5 HD2; Salt Lake City at 102.7 HD2; St. Louis
at 101.1 HD2 and Phoenix at 92.3 HD2. The stream is dead, but the site
remains: www.ichannelmusic.com.

From the site: “Well today is iChannel's last day. It's hard to
believe that it's been 3 years since we started. And I think I speak
for everyone here when I say no matter how disappointed I am at the
moment, I wouldn't trade my time here for anything in the world. I've
had the opportunity to work with some extremely cool and talented
people over the past few years and made some life-long friends.
So I just want to say thanks to everyone that's been a part of making
my time at iChannel so special...Ken, Kane, Rider, Virg, JK, Huck, Big
Red, Dante, Aimster, Presly, Sky, Julie, Logan, AC, Matt, Eric, Sammy,
Jamie, Zip, Christy, Josh, the other interns whose names I never
bothered to learn, and the corporate folks who made it all possible.
It was a pleasure working with all of you. And also thanks to all of
the bands. (Don't worry...not going to mention all of them by name).
And finally, thanks to everyone who tuned in to iChannel, checked out
the website, or came to our events. Without you, we would have just
been talking to ourselves.”

RBR/TVBR observation: If it isn’t making money, the plug will get
pulled. That’s what most likely happened here. WorldBand Media brings
in the dollars instead. We commend Bonneville for giving it a shot—it
allowed radio to expose a lot of new, unsigned indie bands from around
the world. CC Radio's eRockster HD2 format is still around at a good
handful of stations and still outstanding. If that gets shuttered, a
good bunch of us just might be done with HD Radio listening
altoghether.

http://www.rbr.com/radio/12113.html

FUCK YOU, EDUARDO - LMFAO!!!

RHF

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Jan 7, 2009, 8:21:24 AM1/7/09
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IBOC : Bonneville Corp Launches New FM HD-Radio
HD2 Network Featuring World Band Media
-was- Eduardo - Bonneville pulls iChannel Music ! LMFAO!!!

D'Oh ! 'little myopia minded' PocketRadio,

How is this bad news for FM HD-Radio and HD2 Channels.

1 - They had an un-profitable HD2 Network featuring
their own {Bad} Programming.

2 - They replaced that with PAID "World Band Media"
(Brokered Ethnic Programming) on :
Chicago at 101.9 MHz on HD2
Washington D.C. at 103.5 MHz on HD2
Salt Lake City at 102.7 MHz on HD2
St. Louis at 101.1 MHz on HD2
Phoenix at 92.3 MHz on HD2
THAT ADDS UP TO FIVE [5] HD2 Radio Stations
On-the-Air and Five Additional Revenue Streams
for those Five 'Local FM HD-Radio Stations and
the Bonneville Corporation.

business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
* FM Radio is about business,
* * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
* * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !

ABOUT - World Band Media
http://www.worldbandmedia.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldBand_Media

PocketRadio -Think About It- 250 Major US Cities of
100K Population Combined into the Top 100 Metros
and each of thems being serviced by an HD2 Channel
on FM HD-Radio featuring "World Band Media" driving
the Adoption of HD-Radio in the Ethnic Communities
of each of those Metros : Thats 100~250 New Profitable
HD2 Channels adding to Profits of 100~250 "Local"
FM HD-Radio Stations and their Corporate Media Owners.
? How Is That Bad News for FM HD-Radio ?
-ps- IT AIN'T [.]
--- Yeah it is bad news for us AM/MW Radio and
Shortwave Radio DXers.
-but- Very Good News for FM HD-Radio and their
HD2 Channels and the US Media Corporations
supporting HD-Radio like Bonneville.

READ :
* Emmis and WorldBand Media Partner to Launch
First-of-Its-Kind Digital HD-Radio Network via HD2
Channels
http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/in_the_news/2008/1232
* Bonneville International's WTOP Helps WorldBand Media
Expands Its Ethnic Footprint to the Nation's Capital
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1558289/bonneville_internationals_wtop_helps_worldband_media_expands_its_ethnic_footprint/index.html

TBL -PocketRadio- This Is All Very Good News for FM
HD-Radio and their new HD2 Channel Profit Centers ~ RHF
.
.

- FUCK YOU, EDUARDO - LMFAO!!!
.
(OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO ! ~ RHF
.
PR - Sadly everyone knows that in your 'special case' :
The "F" stands for "Farce" and
not the more common F-Word.
.
PLEASE - Everyone GoTo : HD Radio "Farce"
http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com
.Blog Spot .Com and make PocketRadio's Day
.
PR - Say the initials for Blog Spot are "BS"
how very appropriate ~ RHF
.
The Anti-Terresterial-AM&FM-Radio Sock-Puppets :
BoobleStubble = PocketRadio = rfb = jimwilhelm
.
Set News Reader Filters for :
(OT) = OT = Off-Topic
RHF
BoobleStubble
PocketRadio
PONG = Ping-Pong Game
IBOC
hdradio = HD Radio = HD2
farce = Farce
blogspot = Blog Spot
rfb
jimwilhelm
.
PocketRadio -proclaims- I'd Destroy Radio :
Just To Destroy HD/IBOC !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fd44c43c91a3211a
.
More Anti-Radio IBOC Trash Talk
by the PocketRadio Sock-Puppets . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c6391b9f8e245aab
.
'rfb' One More Anti-Terrestrial-Radio "Sock-Puppet"
- blah, Blah. BLAH !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/640161f83a88254a
.
.

BoobleStubble

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Jan 7, 2009, 11:57:48 AM1/7/09
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On Jan 7, 8:21 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> IBOC : Bonneville Corp Launches New FM HD-Radio
> HD2 Network Featuring World Band Media
> -was- Eduardo - Bonneville pulls iChannel Music ! LMFAO!!!
>
> D'Oh ! 'little myopia minded' PocketRadio,
>
> How is this bad news for FM HD-Radio and HD2 Channels.
>
> 1 - They had an un-profitable HD2 Network featuring
> their own {Bad} Programming.
>
> 2 - They replaced that with PAID "World Band Media"
> (Brokered Ethnic Programming) on :
> Chicago at 101.9 MHz on HD2
> Washington D.C. at 103.5 MHz on HD2
> Salt Lake City at 102.7 MHz on HD2
> St. Louis at 101.1 MHz on HD2
> Phoenix at 92.3 MHz on HD2
> THAT ADDS UP TO FIVE [5] HD2 Radio Stations
> On-the-Air and Five Additional Revenue Streams
> for those Five 'Local FM HD-Radio Stations and
> the Bonneville Corporation.
>
> business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
> * FM Radio is about business,
> * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
> * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !
>
> ABOUT - World Band Mediahttp://www.worldbandmedia.com/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldBand_Media

>
> PocketRadio -Think About It- 250 Major US Cities of
> 100K Population Combined into the Top 100 Metros
> and each of thems being serviced by an HD2 Channel
> on FM HD-Radio featuring "World Band Media" driving
> the Adoption of HD-Radio in the Ethnic Communities
> of each of those Metros : Thats 100~250 New Profitable
> HD2 Channels adding to Profits of 100~250 "Local"
> FM HD-Radio Stations and their Corporate Media Owners.
> ? How Is That Bad News for FM HD-Radio ?
> -ps- IT AIN'T [.]
> --- Yeah it is bad news for us AM/MW Radio and
> Shortwave Radio DXers.
> -but- Very Good News for FM HD-Radio and their
> HD2 Channels and the US Media Corporations
> supporting HD-Radio like Bonneville.
>
> READ :
> * Emmis and WorldBand Media Partner to Launch
> First-of-Its-Kind Digital HD-Radio Network via HD2
> Channelshttp://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/in_the_news/2008/1232

> * Bonneville International's WTOP Helps WorldBand Media
> Expands Its Ethnic Footprint to the Nation's Capitalhttp://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1558289/bonneville_internatio...
> Just To Destroy HD/IBOC !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fd44c43c91a3211a

>  .
> More Anti-Radio IBOC Trash Talk
> by the PocketRadio Sock-Puppets . . .http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c6391b9f8e245aab

>  .
> 'rfb' One More Anti-Terrestrial-Radio "Sock-Puppet"
> - blah, Blah. BLAH !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/640161f83a88254a
>  .
>  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

RHF

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Jan 7, 2009, 2:10:50 PM1/7/09
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Determining IBOC & FM HD-Radio's Future - Check-Back in 2013
.

- "If that gets shuttered,
-a good bunch of us just might
- be done with HD Radio listening altoghether."
.
BS - 'If that gets shuttered' - ? Shuttered ? [Closed Down]

? If HD2 Channels get 'shuttered' ?
- - - you won't be able to hear them.

? If FM HD-Radio Stations get 'shuttered' ?
- - - you won't be able to hear them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

and 'if' the Power goes Off
- - - you won't be able to read this message
or post a reply.

The Reality is that HD-Radio was 'authorized' by
the FCC in 2002 and the First HD Radio Stations
http://www.dxing.info/articles/iboc.dx
(19) when on the Air in 2003 and presently there
are about 1800 HD Radio Stations On-the-Air in
the USA.
http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdradio_find_a_station
simply shuttering isn't it ~ RHF
.
About - HD-Radio Receivers & HD-Radio Stations
http://www.topsatelliteradio.com/hdradio/
* IBOC = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-band_on-channel
.
WZLX-FM on 100.7 MHz in Boston, MA launched
http://www.wzlx.com/
its new 5.1 Surround Sound service this week on
the FM HD-Radio Station’s main HD Channel
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-836835.html
Boston, MA - It's Time To Up-Grade !
http://wzlx.com/pages/2172170.php
FM HD-Radio & HD2 Channels in Boston, MA
.
HD-Radio Goes Global !
http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/fast_facts/hd_radiotrade_broadcasting_around_the_world
Status of HD-Radio Broadcasting Around the World
.
More About IBOC and HD-Radio
http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/iboc_white_papers
.
Honest Facts About IBOC AM/MW HD-Radio Interference
http://www.radioworld.com/section/section/article/1842
-by- Guy Wire
.
Determining IBOC & FM HD-Radio's Future - Check-Back in 2013
.
The Fact is that IBOC FM HD-Radio's First Decade will
not happen until 2013 and to attempt to judge what will
be FM HD-Radio's future and the future of AM & FM Radio
is really meaningless until then.
.
it's a 'vision' thingee listen on an hd2 channel
to hear it and understand ~ RHF
.
.


On Jan 7, 8:57 am, BoobleStubble <ibiquity...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 8:21 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > IBOC : Bonneville Corp Launches New FM HD-Radio
> > HD2 Network Featuring World Band Media
> > -was- Eduardo - Bonneville pulls iChannel Music ! LMFAO!!!
>
> > D'Oh ! 'little myopia minded' PocketRadio,
>
> > How is this bad news for FM HD-Radio and HD2 Channels.
>
> > 1 - They had an un-profitable HD2 Network featuring
> > their own {Bad} Programming.
>
> > 2 - They replaced that with PAID "World Band Media"
> > (Brokered Ethnic Programming) on :
> > Chicago at 101.9 MHz on HD2
> > Washington D.C. at 103.5 MHz on HD2
> > Salt Lake City at 102.7 MHz on HD2
> > St. Louis at 101.1 MHz on HD2
> > Phoenix at 92.3 MHz on HD2
> > THAT ADDS UP TO FIVE [5] HD2 Radio Stations
> > On-the-Air and Five Additional Revenue Streams
> > for those Five 'Local FM HD-Radio Stations and
> > the Bonneville Corporation.
>
> > business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
> > * FM Radio is about business,
> > * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
> > * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !
>

> > ABOUT - World Band Mediahttp://www.worldbandmedia.com/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldBand_...

Dave

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Jan 8, 2009, 8:02:23 AM1/8/09
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RHF wrote:

> business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
> * FM Radio is about business,
> * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
> * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !

Wrong! Radio is about serving the public and making a little profit on
the side. It is not about using tired formulae to reduce the
programming to Lowest Common Denominator mediocrity. No art; very bad
science.

Bob Campbell

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Jan 8, 2009, 8:27:30 AM1/8/09
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"Dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:OcKdnaJUBpX8ZPjU...@earthlink.com...

> RHF wrote:
>
>> business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
>> * FM Radio is about business,
>> * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
>> * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !
>
> Wrong! Radio is about serving the public and making a little profit on
> the side.

Where did you come up with that? In business, profit comes first, not
"making a little profit on the side". Without profits you can't "serve the
public".

Dave

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Jan 8, 2009, 8:54:02 AM1/8/09
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Bob Campbell wrote:
> "Dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message

>>


>> Wrong! Radio is about serving the public and making a little profit
>> on the side.
>
> Where did you come up with that? In business, profit comes first, not
> "making a little profit on the side". Without profits you can't "serve
> the public".

" The obligation to serve the public interest is integral to the
"trusteeship" model of broadcasting--the philosophical foundation upon
which broadcasters are expected to operate. The trusteeship paradigm is
used to justify government regulation of broadcasting. It maintains that
the electromagnetic spectrum is a limited resource belonging to the
public, and only those most capable of serving the public interest are
entrusted with a broadcast license. The Federal Communications
Commission (FCC) is the government body responsible for determining
whether or not applicants for broadcast license meet the requirements to
obtain them and for further regulation of those to whom licenses have
been granted.

Interpretation of the "public interest, convenience and necessity"
clause has been a continuing source of controversy. Initially, the
Federal Radio Commission implemented a set of tests, criteria which
would loosely define whether or not the broadcasting entity was
fulfilling its obligation to the listening public. Secifications
included program diversity, quality reception, and "character"
evaluation of licensees. These initial demands set a precedent for
future explications of the public interest.

The pre-television "Blue Book", as it was popularly known, was developed
by the FCC in 1946 to evaluate the discrepancy between the programming
"promise" and "performance" of radio broadcasters. Since license renewal
was dependent upon serving the public interest, program content became a
significant consideration in this procedure. The "Blue Book" required
licensees to promote the discussion of public issues, serve minority
interests and eliminate superfluous advertising. Unpopular with
commercial broadcasters, the "Blue Book" was rendered obsolete after
five years because of the economic threat it posed.

In it's "1960 Program Policy Statement", the FCC echoed similar
sentiments pertaining to television broadcasters. In response to
assorted broadcasting scandals, the FCC issued this statement in order
to "remind" broadcasters of how to serve the public interest. Although
previous tenets of the "Blue Book" were rejected, this revised policy
included the "license ascertainment" stipulation, requiring broadcasters
to determine local programming needs through distribution and analysis
of surveys. However, adherence to such programming policies has never
been strictly enforced."

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/P/htmlP/publicintere/publicintere.htm

RHF

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Jan 8, 2009, 8:56:45 AM1/8/09
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On Jan 8, 5:02 am, Dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- - business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
- - * FM Radio is about business,
- - * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
- - * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !

- Wrong! Radio is about serving the public and
- making a little profit on the side. It is not about
- using tired formulae to reduce the programming
- to Lowest Common Denominator mediocrity.
- No art; very bad science.

Dave - The Reality is . . .
Six Companies Dominate U.S. Radio Market
http://www.thinkandask.com/news/mediagiants.html

1 - Major Media {Radio} Owners (11) :
Clear Channel Communications *
Cox Communications *
Cumulus Media Inc. *
Disney [ABC] *
Emmis Communications Group *
Entercom Communications *
Gannett *
GE -- General Electric [NBC]
News Corp.[FOX]
Time Warner Inc.
Viacom *

2 - iBiquity Digital Corporation Investors :
http://www.ibiquity.com/about_us/investor_information
Major "Big" Media Company Investors (16) :
ABC, [Disney] *
Beasley,
Bonneville,
Citadel,
Clear Channel, *
Cox Radio, *
Cumulus, *
Emmis, *
Entercom, *
Gannett, *
Radio One,
Regent,
Saga,
Susquehanna,
Univision and
Viacom *

* Notice that there are Eight [8] on both lists.

-translation- iBiquity's Investors are simply
Investing in themselves and their future.

-reality- Combined these "Big" Media Corporations
have the Power to Influence Congress and Force
the FCC to Act in their Best Interest : The Public's
Interest -aka- The Public Good.

FACT IS RADIO IS A "BIG" MEDIA BUSINESS ~ RHF
.
.

Commander Col. Klink

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Jan 8, 2009, 4:01:01 PM1/8/09
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On Jan 8, 8:27 am, "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:
> "Dave" <d...@dave.dave> wrote in message

Big radio is only serving itself and what remains of their stock
holders..
The corporate monster John Hogan almost go it right, less is more
profits for them and him!
Small operators still serve their communities.

RHF

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Jan 8, 2009, 4:14:21 PM1/8/09
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On Jan 8, 1:01 pm, "Commander Col. Klink" <scotter...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Jan 8, 8:27 am, "Bob Campbell" <b...@bob.bob> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Dave" <d...@dave.dave> wrote in message
>
> >news:OcKdnaJUBpX8ZPjU...@earthlink.com...
>
> > > RHF wrote:
>
> > >> business -is- Business -is- BUSINESS
> > >> * FM Radio is about business,
> > >> * * FM HD-Radio is about Business.
> > >> * * * FM HD-Radio HD2 Channels Are About BUSINESS !
>
> > > Wrong!  Radio is about serving the public and making a little profit on
> > > the side.
>
> > Where did you come up with that?   In business, profit comes first, not
> > "making a little profit on the side".   Without profits you can't "serve the
> > public".

- Big radio is only serving itself and what remains
- of their stock holders..
- The corporate monster John Hogan almost
- go it right, less is more profits for them and him!
- Small operators still serve their communities.

Do Radio Stations 'Serve' or "Service" Their Communities ?

1 - Preform a Pubic Service and Serve their communities.

2 - "Service" Their Communities with Consumer Information
[Advertising] Directed To Their Radio Listeners along with
assorted filler Radio Programming.

more likely # 2 ~ RHF
.

Dave

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:32:16 AM1/9/09
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RHF wrote:

>
> FACT IS RADIO IS A "BIG" MEDIA BUSINESS ~ RHF
> .
> .

Radio was much better, and had relatively bigger audiences, when no
company could own more than 12 (6 AM, 6 FM) radio stations. There was
vastly more variety of opinion and more localism.

Dave

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Jan 9, 2009, 8:39:25 AM1/9/09
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RHF wrote:

>
> Do Radio Stations 'Serve' or "Service" Their Communities ?
>
> 1 - Preform a Pubic Service and Serve their communities.
>
> 2 - "Service" Their Communities with Consumer Information
> [Advertising] Directed To Their Radio Listeners along with
> assorted filler Radio Programming.
>
> more likely # 2 ~ RHF
> .

"Just lay back and enjoy it."

Brenda Ann

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Jan 9, 2009, 5:08:48 PM1/9/09
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"Dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:8a2dnarjvfEQzvrU...@earthlink.com...

>> 2 - "Service" Their Communities with Consumer Information
>> [Advertising] Directed To Their Radio Listeners along with
>> assorted filler Radio Programming.

Damn, Roy, you hit it right on the head with this one!


RHF

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Jan 10, 2009, 1:20:28 AM1/10/09
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On Jan 9, 2:08 pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
> "Dave" <d...@dave.dave> wrote in message
>
> news:8a2dnarjvfEQzvrU...@earthlink.com...

- - 2 - "Service" Their Communities with Consumer Information
- - [Advertising] Directed To Their Radio Listeners along with
- - assorted filler Radio Programming.

- Damn, Roy, you hit it right on the head with this one!

glad to be of . . .'service' ;;-}} ~ RHF
.

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