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Steve

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Mar 28, 2005, 5:18:13 PM3/28/05
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Hiya everyone, I am on the gold coast just south of Brisbane in Queensland
Australia
Just bought my shortwave radio a Sangean ats 505 . I am surprised at how
little I can pick up?
Anyone and good ideas to help me. I am lucky if I can get 5 stations in
total

Thanks for any help you can give
I used to have an old Russian shortwave that I bought in England and was
like a tank big CLUNK CLICK selector dial got great service off it but it
died after 30 years

Im pretty new to all this though
thanks
Steve


Brian Hill

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Mar 28, 2005, 5:30:26 PM3/28/05
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"Steve" <stev...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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Tell us about your surroundings. Building your in?, city?, country? etc...
By the way is there an External/ Internal switch for the ant. on this radio?

--
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Sanjaya

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Mar 28, 2005, 5:34:58 PM3/28/05
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"Steve" <stev...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:424882a9$1...@news.iprimus.com.au...

My 505 is pretty sensitive off the whip. Overloads with external antenna.
The SW schedules just changed so you might not be listening at the right times.
DxAce just gave me a good site to find the latest broadcast times and target areas.
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld5051.txt
When it's available the bc-a05.txt at http://www.eibi.de.vu will be very useful
and the same goes for English language schedules at http://www.primetimeshortwave.com


Dan

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Mar 28, 2005, 5:40:35 PM3/28/05
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Try at night.. you sheould get more stations..
( See sched below)

http://www.susi-und-strolch.de/eibi/bc-b04.txt

" Gold Coast" ??
In a high rise, in the middle of a city ??

Try to get some sort of random wire antenna outside your dwelling..

20 -30 feet should do wonders..Screw " Overload" , hook it up to the
whip..

http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/index.html

Telamon

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:42:12 PM3/28/05
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In article <1112049635.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Dan" <diver...@aol.com> wrote:

Put the petal to the metal Dan.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF

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Mar 29, 2005, 5:45:10 AM3/29/05
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STEVE,
.
With the Sangean ATS-505 and other 'portable' AM/FM Shorwave Radios.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2758
.
Consider building and using the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
with your 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio.
- by Tom Sevart [N2UHC]
GoTo=> http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html
.
READ - "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA) for your 'portable' AM/FM
Shorwave Radio
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1728
Three ways to position and use the "Portable Wire Antenna"
(PWA) with your 'portable' AM/FM Shorwave Radio.
.
.
iane ~ RHF
.
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna eGroup on YAHOO !
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/>
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/502
.
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night . . .
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond, The BEYOND !
With a Shortwave Listener SWL Antenna of your own making.
"If You Build It {SWL Antenna} You Will Hear Them !"
.
.

Sanjaya

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Mar 29, 2005, 6:00:30 AM3/29/05
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"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:1112093110.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> STEVE,
> .
> With the Sangean ATS-505 and other 'portable' AM/FM Shorwave Radios.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2758
> .
> Consider building and using the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
> with your 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio.
> - by Tom Sevart [N2UHC]
> GoTo=> http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html
> .
> READ - "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA) for your 'portable' AM/FM
> Shorwave Radio
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1728
> Three ways to position and use the "Portable Wire Antenna"
> (PWA) with your 'portable' AM/FM Shorwave Radio.
> .
> .
> iane ~ RHF

I took RHF's advice on this and built a modified version for use indoors, using 50 ft.
of wire after the toroid section was wound. For indoors I replaced the weight with
an alligator clip. It works great.


Steve

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Mar 29, 2005, 7:46:44 AM3/29/05
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my house is fairly raised up, in Reedy Creek, on the east coast of
queenslanf at the gold coast australia
post code 4228
we are on a hill its a sangean with a antennea and a external aerial which I
havent wired up yet, will the external aerial make much difference?
Im disappointed at the amount of few stations I get I thought it was just my
global location was crap

any good stations playing sokme good prog rock?
ten years after etc


kind regards
steve

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Steve

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Mar 29, 2005, 5:36:55 PM3/29/05
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"20 -30 feet should do wonders..Screw " Overload" , hook it up to the
whip.."..Thanks but could someone decipher this message, Im new to the
lingo?
regards
Steve

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> Try at night.. you sheould get more stations..
> ( See sched below)
>

STEVE

Steve

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Mar 29, 2005, 5:49:22 PM3/29/05
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Hi Guys
Im really disappointed that I buy a Sangean 505 shortwave radio for $200
Australian dollars and this morning I could not pick up even one station?

I live on the coast in south east queensland at the gold coast australia, my
house is placed half way down a steep bank with good clear views.

I have read http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html and will give
it a go!
what is overload and why do you think Im not getting any stations
When I press auto search it stops at many stations but all I hear is rumble
noise, if you know what I mean

I do appreciate all help,

regards
steve

Tom Sevart

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Mar 29, 2005, 6:48:41 PM3/29/05
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"Steve" <stev...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys
> Im really disappointed that I buy a Sangean 505 shortwave radio for $200
> Australian dollars and this morning I could not pick up even one station?

There may be a chance you have a defective receiver. Even during the middle
of the day you should pick up some stations on the higher frequencies. When
I was in the Philippines I used to pick up all sorts of stations from all
over Asia & the Pacific.

> I have read http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html and will give
> it a go!

Yeah the guy who put up that site is a pretty neat guy! :-)

> what is overload and why do you think Im not getting any stations
> When I press auto search it stops at many stations but all I hear is
rumble
> noise, if you know what I mean

Overload means your receiver is being overloaded by strong signals, and this
results in certain stations being heard all over the bands, no matter what
frequency you tune to. Or, it means that strong stations will show up in
places they shouldn't be. Overload is usually a problem with a high gain
antenna or too much amplification. A short wire (15 to 20 feet) connected
to the whip as outlined on my page above should not overload a portable
receiver.

I usually don't use auto search on HF due to the characteristics of
propagation, fading, etc. Plus weak stations will probably be passed over.
I'm not sure what you mean by a rumble noise, but if the station is strong
and all you hear is rumbling then I'd suspect a defective receiver.

--
Tom Sevart
Frontenac, KS
http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc


running dogg

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Mar 29, 2005, 6:54:19 PM3/29/05
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Steve wrote:

> "20 -30 feet should do wonders..Screw " Overload" , hook it up to the
> whip.."..Thanks but could someone decipher this message, Im new to the
> lingo?
> regards
> Steve

20-30 feet of wire, should be copper wire, speaker wire will do. Hook it
up to the "whip antenna", that is, the metal retracting rod antenna that
extends out from the top of the radio. It would be best to hook it up to
the end of the antenna where the little knob is. Overload is when a
signal is too strong for your radio's circuits and creates false signals
or "images" all over the dial. Since you're in Australia, overload
should not be too much of a problem, is what Dan is saying. From your
other posts, it sounds like you live at the base of a hill on the beach,
your house pointing southeast. This is not a good situation to receive
signals on a small portable radio just using the built in antenna (the
"whip"). That's why you need to hook up 30 feet (about 10 meters, I
think) of copper wire to the end of the whip antenna and run the wire
outside your house and hook the other end of the wire to a tree or a
wood fence or anything that's not metal. Do you understand a little bit
better?

>
> "Dan" <diver...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1112049635.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Try at night.. you sheould get more stations..
> > ( See sched below)
> >
> STEVE
>
> > http://www.susi-und-strolch.de/eibi/bc-b04.txt
> >
> > " Gold Coast" ??
> > In a high rise, in the middle of a city ??
> >
> > Try to get some sort of random wire antenna outside your dwelling..
> >
> > 20 -30 feet should do wonders..Screw " Overload" , hook it up to the
> > whip..
> >
> > http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/index.html
> >
>
>


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RHF

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Mar 29, 2005, 8:21:34 PM3/29/05
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STEVE,
.
ABOUT - Portable "Roll-Up" {Reel-Up} Shortwave Antennas :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2761
.
These Roll-Up {Reel-Up} Portable Shortwave Antennas can be
used In-Doors or Out-Side with most AM/FM Shortwave Radios.
.
These Roll-Up {Reel-Up} Portable Shortwave Antennas can
be Clipped-on-to the Radio's Whip Antenna.
.
Or, these Roll-Up {Reel-Up} Portable Shortwave Antennas can
be Plugged into the Radio's 1/8" External Antenna Input Jack.
.
These Roll-Up {Reel-Up} Portable Shortwave Antennas are
about Twenty-Three Feet (23') Long when fully extended.
.
NOTE - In general these Portable Shortwave Antennas provide
a One + Plus S-Unit Improvement in the Signal to the Radio.
.
.
Portable Shortwave Antenna - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) :
.
Question # 1 - Will using a Portable Shortwave Antenna
with my 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio make a difference
in my Reception. [ Does It Work ? ]
* Answer * YES - Usually using one of these Portable Shortwave
Antennas does make a good improvement in the reception of the
Radio on the Shortwave Bands. HOWEVER - Depending on your
location you may also pick-up as much RFI / EMF Noise as
Radio Signal when you use one indoors.
.
Question # 2 - Does the Portable Shortwave Antenna make a
good Travel and Camping Antenna for use with my 'portable'
AM/FM Shortwave Radio ?
* Answer * YES - This is what it is Design-To-Do and it
does a very good job as a 'portable' On-the-Go Travel
Antenna to be strung-up in Hotel Rooms or from a Tent
to a Tree while Camping. Compact-Light-Weight-Efficent
.
.
The Sangean ANT-60 Sangean 'portable' Roll-Up Shortwave Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/3184.html
http://windupradio.com/shortwave/sangeanAN60.htm
http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/product.php?productid=413&cat=0&page=1
http://www.survivalunlimited.com/radios/antenna.htm
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm
http://www.usascan.com/files/ant60.html
http://www.thiecom.de/ant60.htm
http://www.hermeselectronics.nl/?Prod=29556
http://www.norad.dk/sangean/san60.htm
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000023VW2/102-1881522-5496114

.
This Roll-Up Reel-Up 'portable' Shortwave Antenna
is also Sold As / Sold By :
* Compact Shortwave "Reel" Antenna by Radios 4 You .Com
http://www.radios4you.com/antenna-r4u.html
* Portable Shortwave Antenna - by C.Crane Co.
http://www.ccrane.com/shortwave-antenna.aspx
* Portable Shortwave Antenna - by RadioShack Catalog # 278-1374
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=278-1374

.
.
iane ~ RHF

Telamon

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:00:54 AM3/30/05
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In article <3au7qnF...@individual.net>,
"Tom Sevart" <n2uhc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Steve" <stev...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4249d...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > Hi Guys
> > Im really disappointed that I buy a Sangean 505 shortwave radio for $200
> > Australian dollars and this morning I could not pick up even one station?
>
> There may be a chance you have a defective receiver. Even during the middle
> of the day you should pick up some stations on the higher frequencies. When
> I was in the Philippines I used to pick up all sorts of stations from all
> over Asia & the Pacific.
>
> > I have read http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html and will give
> > it a go!
>
> Yeah the guy who put up that site is a pretty neat guy! :-)

Looking pretty dapper there...

<http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/index.html>

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Steve

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:36:59 AM3/30/05
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Yes thank you that was brilliant my house is facing 4 miles from the beach
and facing east and a little to the south...ok so I buy 30 feet of speaker
wire (copper) just tie it tightly to the top of the antennae that cam on the
radio and then feed it to the many trees outside
do I need to put anything on the end where the tree is?

thanks again
steve
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Steve

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:43:01 AM3/30/05
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Yes, Im receiving lots of signals but not music or speaking just a loud
rumbling like the sound of an aircrafts engine

steve
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cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 30, 2005, 1:40:59 AM3/30/05
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I am supprised some folks have never heard of the Gold Coast of
Australia.(Australasia) I have known about it since forever.Those folks
must be canaDUHians.(all of the stupid people in the World are
"canaDUHians") I know two wimmins whom live in Australasia.One of them
is married and she and her hubby live in the Sydney area,her hubby owns
his own construction business,and the other woman is single and she
lives in Stockton. www.dogpile.com Maps Cities Gold Coast
Australia
cuhulin

Smith-Gaspard W4ONO

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Mar 30, 2005, 1:09:24 PM3/30/05
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Hello Steve, et al ...

I am not familiar with your shortwave receiver, but perhaps you can tell
me the
receiver controls on the front.

Most communications receivers will have certain circuit designs that
will prevent
"overload", such as an automatic gain control [AGC] which automatically
attenuates large amounts of radio frequency [RF] energy entering the
first stage
of your tuned circuits. If your receiver does have an AGC switch, try
turning this
circuit in the on position and see if there is any difference.

Good communications receivers will have one to two stages of RF
amplification
circuits which are designed for selectivity. These circuits are
manually controlled
by a control on the front of the receiver called an RF control. By
decreasing the
RF control you will decrease the amount of RF amplification and bring
back the
selectivity to the front-end stages. Look in your instruction manual
and see what
your Intermod-Distortion [IMD] specifications are. This is the ability
of your
tuned circuits to reject received signals from heterodyning with the
local oscillator
[LO] during the mixing stage.

After you have read your manual and are satisfied with the ability to
control your
receiver correctly, I will be happy to suggest various external
wide-band antennas
that are simple to construct.

73 de Jim W4ONO .-.-.
West Central Gulf Coast of Florida, U.S.A.

Smith-Gaspard W4ONO

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Tebojockey

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Mar 30, 2005, 7:00:46 PM3/30/05
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:43:01 +1000, "Steve" <stev...@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

Is it possible, that by "rumbling" he means a loud buzzing from DC to
daylight? If this is the case, I would look at electrical
interference. Likely culprits could include pole-mounted utility
transformers (pole pigs), poorly filtered compressors on AC and
refrigerator units, or any running electric motors.

Steve, you might check around and see if shutting any of these local
things off stops a lot of the "rumbling."

Al in CNMI

Steve

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Mar 30, 2005, 8:15:56 PM3/30/05
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thanks everyone
im trying everything
steve
0405722189
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Li Changchun

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Communist China planning to invade Taiwan in 2012, says highly placed
source: An unnamed "high level CCP official" told the Epoch Times that the
Communist leadership "set up the timeline for attacking Taiwan" early in
2004. The purpose for the invasion of the island democracy will be "to
resolve conflicts inside China, no matter whether Taiwan announce
independence or not." The pieces of the plan were as follows:

Prior to 2008, every policy should center one the Olympics to further arouse
Chinese people's patriotism and prepare for attacking Taiwan. Around 2010,
reorganize the Party and clean out all the members who are against military
action. Around 2012, attack Taiwan and call for an Emergency Act inside
China. Through the Emergency Act, the CCP could confiscate private property,
especially people's savings, to resolve its financial and economic crises.
Eliminate the groups inside China that the CCP deems "anti-government
forces", such as Falun Gong, unofficial churches, human rights activists,
advocates for Tibetan independence, advocates for the independence of
Xinjian (East Turkestan), and intellectuals. Arouse Chinese people's
patriotism through the Emergency Act in order to resolve the unemployment
issue.

The aforementioned anonymous cadre fears "all these steps means China is
closer to fascism." This source specifically cited the newly minted
"anti-secession law" as part of the plot to "give the right of calling for
military actions to the CCP chairman." That man is now Hu Jintao, who at the
time of the plans formation was Vice-Chairman of the all-important Party
Central Military Commission Chairman. Jiang Zemin, who as Party CMC Chair
led the early 2004 discussion that led to the invasion plan, reportedly told
Hu earlier this month, "if we have to attack Taiwan, the earlier the
better."
http://china-e-lobby.blogspot.com/2005/03/news-of-weekend-march-2627.html

Communist China wants to limit American weapons in space: Communist China is
calling for a treaty to limit arms in space, in reaction to U.S. efforts to
protect its satellites orbiting the globe (Washington Post). What the
Communists don't tell the paper is their desire to have a clear shot at
those very satellites in the event of a conflict.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7995-2005Mar28.html

Communist media crackdown expands:
The Communist crackdown on media continues, with "warnings to three
newspapers: the China Business News of Shanghai, the Economic Observer of
Beijing, and the 21st Century Business Herald of Guangzhou" (Epoch Times) as
well as Nan Fang Daily in Guangdong. To ensure their warnings are followed,
"When the Propaganda Department finds fault with a reporter, editor, or
supervisor, the Department also withholds several months of the individual's
pay."
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-3-29/27444.html

Professor fired for ripping Communist media control: Meanwhile, Beijing
University Professor Jiao Guobiao has been fired for "an astonishingly bold
paper" he wrote last year "attacking the Communist Party's propaganda
department." Jiao "accused it of sheltering corrupt officials and compared
the state censors to those in Nazi Germany." Prior to getting canned, his
books had already been banned, and "he was included in a blacklist of
intellectuals forbidden from appearing in the media."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4392705.stm

Above links courtesy of http://china-e-lobby.blogspot.com/


cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 30, 2005, 9:39:59 PM3/30/05
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Are there any government or Military installations or bases or big radar
domes or big towers near you? I am only guessing,but that could have
something to do with causing your radio recpetion problem.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 30, 2005, 9:42:13 PM3/30/05
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Taiwan is not and never has been part of China.Taiwan is an Independent
Nation.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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August 6,1945,Hiroshima,Japan.August 9,1945,Nagasaki,Japan.Soon,(I
HOPE!) Peking,China!
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 31, 2005, 2:17:43 AM3/31/05
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You slip in here with your,Maybe,Ameica should turn communist? You slip
in here with your oh so nonchantly,china taking over Taiwan by year
2012.(or whatver) JUST TRY IT!!!! Y'ALL SLANT EYED CHINK SLOPES!!!!!
JUST TRY IT!!!!! YOU SEND THIS!!! to Peking,China!!!! Let them slant
eyed slopes BASTARDS!!!!! READ THIS!!!!! YOU DAMN
COMMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

blue water toiletsplash (mrs.)

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Mar 31, 2005, 1:08:46 PM3/31/05
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"Li Changchun" <LiCha...@ccp.gov.cn> wrote in message
news:114mm4e...@corp.supernews.com...

> Communist China planning to invade Taiwan in 2012, says highly placed
> source: An unnamed "high level CCP official" told the Epoch Times that the
> Communist leadership "set up the timeline for attacking Taiwan" early in
> 2004.

It would help to understand 3 things with regard to
the above......

1) The Epoch Times is a newspaper which is allegedly
owned by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church.
A quasi church cult which is known for far right wing
political leanings.

2) The notion that China would invade Taiwan is just so much pablumous
bullshi+.
Taiwan currently farms out close to 70% of it's vast consumer products
manufacturing base to China. This cross-border trade accounts for close
to $800B
in shared revenue. From an economic standpoint, Mainland China and
Taiwan are already one and the same Country/Political Jurisdiction.
For China to invade Taiwan would be shooting themselves in the foot and
killing
one-Half of the Golden Goose that lays the Economic Eggs. (Hong Kong
being
the other half of this equation.

3) China going to war would destabilize the economy of Japan as many
Japanese
companies do business in China. So does the USA. China goes to war
means
no product shipped from the Pacific Rim. The Banking and Merchant
Trade
Guild will NEVER let this happen.....PERIOD.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 31, 2005, 1:34:30 PM3/31/05
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(Mrs) That's what I was sort of kind of trying to say too,if China tries
to take over (OK,you said it first and I give you credit for that too)
Taiwan,China will fuck up big time! I am fixin to put on my cleanest
dirty clothes now and head on over to the Goodwill thriftstore and see
what kind of junk is over there that I don't need and flirt with them
wimmins over there and yesterday,I saw a certain IBM computer over there
and I wont give them more than five dollars for that IBM
computer,assuming it's still there,that is, and I might,just might see a
GE super radio over there that I can buy for a couple of dollars and
sell it on ebay for one hundred dollars or more.Let me get my ass out
the door now.
cuhulin

Li Changchun

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"blue water toiletsplash (mrs.)" <313da...@bulldyker.yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> 1) The Epoch Times is a newspaper which is allegedly
> owned by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church.
> A quasi church cult which is known for far right wing
> political leanings.
>

And your point is...?

The fact about the Epoch Times is that many stories are sourced from other
media. Including The Voice of America.

If you wish to make an issue with a religion denomination as being "right
wing" then you must include the Catholic Church, Orthodox Jews, Islamic
Fundamentalists, and so many more. The point here is that religion has
nothing to do with FACTS published in an independent newspaper.

Perhaps you would prefer reading the Chinese Communist Party propaganda
newspapers? Is it not "right wing"?

If the People's Liberation Army faction within the CCP find it is in their
interest to invade Taiwan when they feel they can survive the onslaught then
trust me, they will!


cuh...@webtv.net

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Li Changchun,which Country are you in anyway.I am in Mississippi,U.S.A.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 31, 2005, 8:36:42 PM3/31/05
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Get one of them Alligator clips and hook it on one end of the wire and
hook the Alligator clip end on to your radio antenna.
cuhulin

running dogg

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Mar 31, 2005, 11:40:13 PM3/31/05
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Li Changchun wrote:


> If the People's Liberation Army faction within the CCP find it is in their
> interest to invade Taiwan when they feel they can survive the onslaught then
> trust me, they will!

Not unless they're extremely stupid, which is a possibility. If they
invade then they'll have to take on the US Army. If they try to take out
all the world's satellites to cripple said army they'll get the entire
PLANET pissed at them, and lined up behind the Americans. If they nuke
LA in order to get the US to back off, they will find themselves
vaporizing under 15,000 nuclear warheads. Same thing for nuking
Washington DC or any other American territory. It would be a no win
situation for the CCP. Even if they nuked just Taipei they would
probably find themselves under a general embargo. No oil, no factories.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 12:19:20 AM4/1/05
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U.S.Air Force says they will OWN the weather by 2025,or sooner.OWNING
the weather is one hell of a weapon agains't our enemies.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 12:16:38 AM4/1/05
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If the chinks or any other countries (we are at War with Iraq and the
terrorist all over the World right now) attack any part of America or
American Territories or allies of America,not only the U.S.Army but all
branches of the U.S.Military will attack any and all countries
involved.I believe HAARP can shut down China and any other country or
countries at will.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 12:25:30 AM4/1/05
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We can send China back to the stone age.China already has problems with
drought,we can turn China into a big dust bowl or flood them all just
like a bunch of rats.Any and or all of that would be perfectly fine with
me!
cuhulin.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 12:26:50 AM4/1/05
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We can ZAP Peking at a moments notice at any time,now or later.
cuhulin

Li Changchun

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"running dogg" <r...@ning.dog> wrote in message
news:424cd16a$1...@127.0.0.1...

> Li Changchun wrote:
> > If the People's Liberation Army faction within the CCP find it is in
their
> > interest to invade Taiwan when they feel they can survive the onslaught
then
> > trust me, they will!
>
> Not unless they're extremely stupid, which is a possibility. If they
> invade then they'll have to take on the US Army. If they try to take out
> all the world's satellites to cripple said army they'll get the entire
> PLANET pissed at them, and lined up behind the Americans. If they nuke
> LA in order to get the US to back off, they will find themselves
> vaporizing under 15,000 nuclear warheads. Same thing for nuking
> Washington DC or any other American territory. It would be a no win
> situation for the CCP. Even if they nuked just Taipei they would
> probably find themselves under a general embargo. No oil, no factories.
>

The sole purpose of the CCP is to REMAIN IN POWER BY ANY MEANS. One means
to do so is to rally a nations people around a nationalistic cause - smoke
and mirrors. You would do this when social unrest appears its ugly head as
it is now doing on the mainland. The CCP will do anything to maintain its
political grip.

The current economic scenario between China and the West is eerily similar
to Nazi Germany before they invaded Poland on the "pretext" that they have
to invade to put down the "uprising". China will use the same reason with
Taiwan.

Economic engagement has not ever worked on dictatorial regimes - EVER! In
fact even embargoes don't work. The only way to bring these dictators down
is by force or internal revolution.

Read the Nine Commentaries on The Communist Party. It is written by a
mainland Chinese for the mainland Chinese. It explains perfectly the evil
soul of the dragon called the CCP. http://english.epochtimes.com/jiuping.asp


John S.

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Apr 1, 2005, 8:41:45 AM4/1/05
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I don't know how reliable "news" in the Epoch Times is when it comes
from an unnamed source purported to be from within the Chinese
Communist Party. Actually, I have never heard of the Epoch Times. At
any rate, contrast that article with the headline below from today's
Washington Post. At least in that story we have a name within the CCP.

The most one can say is that the situation between China and Taiwan
continues to ebb and flow. That China has opened up and advanced
economically in the past 30 years is beyond question. And as it
continues to open up it will become increasingly accepted by other
major world powers. There are numerous examples of this worldwide
acceptance, but most notable because of the status it brings is the
decision to hold the 2008 Olympics in China. That China continues to
increase its position as a worldwide economic power should obvious to
anyone who has read Made-In labels recently. Along with these economic
links or ties to other world powers comes a dependency that becomes
harder to break as time passes. I am more certain now than 10 years
ago that China will seek a non-violent solution to it's relations with
Taiwan.

China Reaches Out to Taiwanese Opposition Party

By Philip P. Pan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, April 1, 2005; Page A18

BEIJING, March 31 -- A senior Communist Party official called for a
resumption of formal talks with Taiwan in a meeting with a leader of
the island's opposition Nationalist Party on Thursday, the
highest-level contact between the two parties since they fought each
other in the Chinese civil war more than 50 years ago.

Jia Qinglin, the fourth-ranked leader in the Communist hierarchy, also
extended a public invitation to the Nationalist Party chairman, Lien
Chan, to visit the mainland "at any time he thinks appropriate." The
move set aside decades of official hostility toward the party ousted in
the 1949 Communist revolution.

John S.

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Apr 1, 2005, 8:49:39 AM4/1/05
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Actually that is incorrect. China, Japan Holland, Portugal and France
have at various times either invaded, occupied or in some way
controlled what we call Taiwan. After the China-Japan war China ceded
Taiwan to Japan for what I believe was 99 years.

Li Changchun

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"John S." <hjs...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1112363379.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

> Actually that is incorrect. China, Japan Holland, Portugal and France
> have at various times either invaded, occupied or in some way
> controlled what we call Taiwan.

Huh!?

> After the China-Japan war China ceded
> Taiwan to Japan for what I believe was 99 years.

Are you on drugs?
This absolutely and patently FALSE!

Li Changchun

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Apr 1, 2005, 6:10:59 PM4/1/05
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You are incredibly ignorant about Communist China, Taiwan and the
Nationalist Party. The Nationalist Party (now the opposition party) of
Taiwan is in bed with the CCP.

Please read some history of the Chinese Communist Party and its roots:
http://english.epochtimes.com/jiuping.asp

Is the U.S. Political Establishment Omniscient?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/31/195518.shtml

Lev Navrozov
Friday, April 1, 2005
On March 21 I received the following e-mail from a reader (whose name I
withhold) in Amsterdam, the Netherlands:

Dear Mr. Navrozov,
I've been reading your articles with interest and applaud your efforts to
bring the threat of China (and its nano-weapons) to the attention of the
public. However, I have trouble understanding your often repeated belief
that the powers-that-be in the US are unaware of, or indifferent to the
threat posed by China. In my mind, the US administration is all too aware of
the fact that China is the main enemy, but cannot talk of this, or openly
defy China due to the fact that China has the US in a financial headlock. As
the world's largest debtor nation, the US is dependent on foreign nations to
finance its spending. China - holding about 10% of the US's national debt -
could flatten the US economy in a day if it so wished (and it may soon).

My reader in Amsterdam is right when he says that China has the United
States "in a financial headlock." But is this the only reason why the U.S.
establishment has been silent about the mortal military danger of China, and
few Americans know about the founding in China in 1986 of Project 863,
developing post-nuclear superweapons in seven fields?

Hitler's Germany did not hold 10 percent of the British national debt and
could not flatten the British economy in a day. Yet when Chamberlain gave
away to Hitler that part of Czechoslovakia where many Germans lived, the
majority of the Parliament and of the people at large were delirious with
joy.

Why? Hitler was perceived as a German patriot reunifying Germans. In the
case of Czechoslovakia, there was a conflict because Czechoslovakia did not
want to give away part of its territory only because many Germans were
residing in it - after all, they could go to live in Germany. Chamberlain
removed the conflict by giving away that part of Czechoslovakia to Hitler.
So Hitler was happy, and peace was no longer endangered.

It was only after Hitler seized the rest of Czechoslovakia and invaded
Poland in 1939 that the delirious British joy of 1938 dissipated.

Now, was Chamberlain "all too aware" that Germany was "the main enemy"? Even
if he was, what matters is what Chamberlain did, not what he was "all too
aware" of. The same applies to the majority of the British political
establishment and the British people at large.

China can "flatten the U.S. economy in a day." Well, this danger no doubt
contributes to the reluctance of the U.S. political establishment to react
to the mortal military danger of the dictatorship of China, no matter to
what degree each member of the U.S. political establishment is or is not
aware of "the fact that China is the main enemy."

Why should we assume that the majority of the British political
establishment understood in 1938 nothing about Germany, while the majority
of the U.S. political establishment is omniscient in 2005 about China, but
"cannot talk of this"?

My columns and my book address all Westerners as well as the Chinese
dissidents, and not just the Western political establishment, leading the
West to its annihilation or unconditional surrender either blindly or
consciously - "all too aware" of what the dictatorship of China is and what
the dictators are doing to bring about the annihilation of the West or its
unconditional surrender.

Still, it can be asked: Is the U.S. political establishment so omniscient
today (in contrast to the British political establishment before 1939)?

If the U.S. political establishment is so omniscient, why did it, two years
ago, pick Iraq (a small and technologically undeveloped country) for "the
pre-emptive war," and why did it ascribe to Iraq "weapons of mass
destruction"? Why didn't the U.S. political establishment foresee that while
the fundamentalist Shia majority would hail the invasion as terminating the
power of the less fundamentalist Sunni, the latter would wage a guerrilla
war, which may continue for another two, 10 or 20 years?

The U.S. political establishment is omniscient about China? How and why? In
1978, I wrote in Commentary magazine about the virtual non-existence of
Western intelligence/espionage vis-a-vis dictatorships like Soviet Russia or
China today. Iraq has demonstrated that nothing has changed in U.S.
intelligence/espionage in 25 years. If the U.S. establishment knew nothing
or worse than nothing in 2003 about Iraq (population: 22 million), why and
how can it know everything about China (population: 1.3 billion)?

Listen to the television "hosts" and their "guests" with academic degrees.
They do not notice the mortal military (or economic) danger of the
dictatorship of China. For that reason alone, what they have been saying can
be defined as "Philistine twaddle."

In the last 15 years there were four Western wars on small or virtually
defenseless non-nuclear countries: (1) the invasion of Iraq in 1991, and
"the sanctions" for 12 years, as a result of which half a million Iraqi
children under the age of five died; (2) the war on Yugoslavia because
Milosevic had allegedly ordered the massacre of 44 Albanians (actually, a
fabrication of the Kosovo Liberation Army); (3) the war on Afghanistan to
kill Osama bin Laden because he had boasted that he had "planned and carried
out" the terrorist act of Sept. 11, 2001; and (4) the war on Iraq again (see
above).

Those four wars and their justification testify to the low mental level of
the U.S. political establishment, not to its omniscience.

Another doubt concerning the omniscience of the U.S. political
establishment. China "could flatten the U.S. economy in a day if it so
wished (and it may soon)." How and why hasn't the omniscient U.S. political
establishment prevented this kind of economic destruction of the United
States by China?

Is today's geostrategy a definite body of well-researched knowledge that may
be in the head of every member of the Western political establishment as a
field of mathematics is in the head of a mathematician working in this
field? Alas, there is no such field of geostrategy. Much of what I state in
my column and in my book has never been publicly said before.

For example, the aggressiveness of big dictatorships has been explained by
the dictators' evilness, such as that of Hitler, who has been represented in
the democratic West after 1939 as a melodrama villain, screaming and
half-insane.

I contend that the primary motivation for the quest by a big dictatorship
for world domination is its dictators' understanding that unless they
destroy the democratic world (or make the relevant countries their
colonies), their population will emulate the democratic West and will take
away their power, as the population of Soviet Russia took it from Gorbachev
and the population of China created the Tiananmen movement aimed at
restricting or limiting the dictator's power, which could have led to his
total loss of it.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/31/195518.shtml

Who is "Lev Navrozov: NewsMax.com columnist and journalist. One of the
most brilliant minds in the world, according to many distinguished
Westerners and Russians. Published over 1,000 columns and articles on the
destiny of civilization, world culture, foreign policy, strategy, defense,
and intelligence work since his emigration from Russia in 1972. Winner of
the Albert Einstein Prize for outstanding intellectual achievements. Author
of The Education of Lev Navrozov (Harper & Row, 1975), compared by the
reviewers to Mark Twain, Proust, Orwell, Voltaire, and Dostoyevsky. More
than twenty of his articles are in the United States Congressional Record."
http://www.levnavrozov.com
________________________________________________________

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cuh...@webtv.net

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There was a German prison at the border between Poland and Germany.The
German's injected Skopedal (spelling) into some German Prisoners and
they dressed those German prisoners in either Polish uniforms or Polish
garb/clothing and then they turned them (the German prisoners loose) and
the German prisoners started attacking the German prison on the German
side of the border.World War Two was the result of that.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 10:19:38 PM4/1/05
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A few of the Reliable websites where I get my Asian online news updates
are at, www.stratfor.com www.atimes.com www.homelandsecurityus.com
Any Commie chink "news sites" I do NOT trust at ALL! Li Changchun is
full of Crap!
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 1, 2005, 10:22:02 PM4/1/05
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I remember seeing on tv nixon standing on that wall in Chinkland back in
the 1970's.
cuhulin

John S.

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Apr 2, 2005, 11:37:51 AM4/2/05
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Go reread your history....you may wish to beleve that Taiwan has always
been an indepdent country but it does not change the facts.

RM MS

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Apr 2, 2005, 2:02:39 PM4/2/05
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The short wave bands are vast, compared to regular broadcast bands, so
you will have to be a bit more diligent in your search. In general, try
the lower bands at night, and the higher ones for daytime.

RM MS

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Apr 2, 2005, 2:07:45 PM4/2/05
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Flourescent lights and TV's are really bad, too.

RM MS

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Apr 2, 2005, 2:00:10 PM4/2/05
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I'm assuming you'renew because of the statement about the external
antenna, BTW: Yes-by all means, it will make a world of difference. But,
to continue, try the lower freq's at night, like 4700 to 11000, and the
higher ones daytime, 9500 to 15000. Hope this narrows down your search a
little bit.

Li Changchun

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Apr 2, 2005, 6:58:08 PM4/2/05
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"John S." <hjs...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1112459871.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

> Go reread your history....you may wish to beleve that Taiwan has always
> been an indepdent country but it does not change the facts.
>

I concede, you are correct. I simply responded too hastily without
comprehending exactly the time from it refereed to.

By the way, unlike the mainland Chinese, the Taiwanese have an affinity
towards the Japanese.

The fact that matters is that the Chinese Communist Party NEVER occupied
Taiwan.
The Communist regime defeated Chiang Hai Chek(sp?) on the mainland and was
forced to retreat to Taiwan around 1949.

History changes nothing in regards to the present day threats from Communist
China.
Ignoring the present danger changes nothing except who will write the
history books.


John S.

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Apr 2, 2005, 8:15:45 PM4/2/05
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Yes, I agree the CCP, a relatively recent development in the history of
Taiwan has never occupied that Island. That the Taiwanese are
different in many ways from mainland Chinese is a sensitive observation
not widely acknowleged.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Apr 2, 2005, 8:30:24 PM4/2/05
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Now,Li Changchung,you go and read your Mao book some more.Use it for a
pillow too.Hey,how come you won't say what country you are in? You got
something to hide or something?
cuhulin

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Caveat Lector

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--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !


"Leonard Martin" <lmarti4...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:lmarti49NOSPAM-252...@bignews.bellsouth.net...
> In article <1112459871.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,


> "John S." <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
>
>> Go reread your history....you may wish to beleve that Taiwan has always
>> been an indepdent country but it does not change the facts.
>
>

> As it happens, I know a grad student from Tainwan. I remember him
> telling me about how Japan controlled Taiwan before WWII.
>
> Leonard
>
> --
> "Everything that rises must converge"
> --Flannery O'Connor

Maybe read the History of Taiwan -- URL:
http://www.taiwandc.org/hst-1624.htm


Jim

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i know that i am in here late but has anybody suggested checking the
local/dx switch? i have that radio and with it switched to local it wont
receive at all.

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