Shortwave for cars?
Bill Baka
from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
connect the car antenna to it.
Anybody tried it or anything like it?
Bill Baka
Brenda Ann
"Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Sony still makes some really nice AM/FM/SW radios for cars (with the
requisite CD/MP3 player, etc.) that have, although not full coverage, at
least pretty decent coverage.
As for the antenna, car radios are made to impedence match to the relatively
short standard car radio antenna, and usually do not respond too well to
additional antenna length. You CAN, however, place a variable capacitor
between the car antenna and your random longwire, and tune it for best
reception for a given frequency. This would at least give you the advantage
of the extra capture area.
Bill Baka
> "Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:hea25a$8dq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few from
>> across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a fad. I
>> would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box thing and
>> be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
>> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines for
>> miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory) take
>> a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable weight
>> and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is stuck
>> firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and connect
>> the car antenna to it.
>> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>>
>> Bill Baka
>
> Sony still makes some really nice AM/FM/SW radios for cars (with the
> requisite CD/MP3 player, etc.) that have, although not full coverage, at
> least pretty decent coverage.
I will go look. A CD/MP3 player would be wasted on me since I prefer to
listen to the sounds the car and road make while I am driving.
Was going to look. The Sony home page won't work with my version of
Firefox and IE will never be allowed to slime my drive.
Maybe Egghead or Frys or some other large consumer place.
>
> As for the antenna, car radios are made to impedence match to the relatively
> short standard car radio antenna, and usually do not respond too well to
> additional antenna length. You CAN, however, place a variable capacitor
> between the car antenna and your random longwire, and tune it for best
> reception for a given frequency. This would at least give you the advantage
> of the extra capture area.
>
>
>
As a rule when I buy a car one of the first things I adjust is the
antenna trimmer, which is usually a bit off anyway. Funny how most
people don't even know these things exist. Thinking about it, an MFJ
tuning box sitting under the dash should be a real conversation starter.
Cheers,
Bill Baka
Brenda Ann
>> Sony still makes some really nice AM/FM/SW radios for cars (with the
>> requisite CD/MP3 player, etc.) that have, although not full coverage, at
>> least pretty decent coverage.
>
> I will go look. A CD/MP3 player would be wasted on me since I prefer to
> listen to the sounds the car and road make while I am driving.
> Was going to look. The Sony home page won't work with my version of
> Firefox and IE will never be allowed to slime my drive.
> Maybe Egghead or Frys or some other large consumer place.
>>
>> As for the antenna, car radios are made to impedence match to the
>> relatively short standard car radio antenna, and usually do not respond
>> too well to additional antenna length. You CAN, however, place a variable
>> capacitor between the car antenna and your random longwire, and tune it
>> for best reception for a given frequency. This would at least give you
>> the advantage of the extra capture area.
>>
>>
>>
> As a rule when I buy a car one of the first things I adjust is the antenna
> trimmer, which is usually a bit off anyway. Funny how most people don't
> even know these things exist. Thinking about it, an MFJ tuning box sitting
> under the dash should be a real conversation starter.
>
Not the cheapest, you really have to scour these days: (not mine)
http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-CDX-GT160S-AM-FM-SW-AUX-IN-CAR-SW-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ130339632871
mi...@sushi.com
There is always XM radio. BBC world service all the time, and many
other shortwave stations on a rotating basis.
If you are going to do any SWL with a fixed antenna, there is really
no need to mount it in the car. I have a Welbrook ALA100 that I have
used in the field many times with home brew wire loops.
Bill Baka
> "Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:hea64r$6ai$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> trimmer, which is usually a bit off anyway. Funny how most people don't
>> even know these things exist. Thinking about it, an MFJ tuning box sitting
>> under the dash should be a real conversation starter.
>>
>
> Not the cheapest, you really have to scour these days: (not mine)
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-CDX-GT160S-AM-FM-SW-AUX-IN-CAR-SW-RECEIVER_W0QQitemZ130339632871
>
>
coverage! A noise blanker is a must in a car even if the noise is not
from your own car. I have had a CB radio and been literally blasted by
someone's million volt super blaster ignition.
Thanks,
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
> On Nov 21, 4:55 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
>> from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
>> fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
>> thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
>> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
>> for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
>> take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
>> weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
>> stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
>> connect the car antenna to it.
>> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>>
>> Bill Baka
>
> There is always XM radio. BBC world service all the time, and many
> other shortwave stations on a rotating basis.
The point was I want to do my own searching and not listen to some lame
satellite station. I will *never* buy a car that requires me to pay a
satellite station $10 every month.
>
> If you are going to do any SWL with a fixed antenna, there is really
> no need to mount it in the car. I have a Welbrook ALA100 that I have
> used in the field many times with home brew wire loops.
>
> http://www.lazygranch.com/images/radio/loop1.jpg
Interesting looking setup, could be used as a direction finder too.
I have a marine RDF but it uses a pre-mounted loop-stick in the rotating
antenna. Too bad it cuts off at just over the old 2805 frequencies.
Thanks for the picture.
Bill Baka
cuh...@webtv.net
countries too, they attatched long wire antennas to helium filled
balloons.They used big home made wooden spools (sort of like fishing
reels) to bring down the antennas with the balloons.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
of the stores in a shopping mall parking lot area had some car shortwave
radios for sale.
cuhulin
Bill Baka
the stock radio but that is not hard. I saw some Canadian CB's that a,
umm, guy I know had 25 Watt FM CB radios for sale. Illegal as hell but
he runs a wrecking yard and lots of good old boys like them thar rigs.
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
allows 170 feet for a tower and that's about enough wire for a fishing
reel. If I get real ambitious I might try it, except I don't have a
helium source nearby.
Bill Baka
Steve R.
Way back, my old Jaguar Mk 10 had a radio made by PYE that had standard
broadcast and short-wave. Or was that the Mk II????? Short-wave reception
was spotty, and I never did try a long wire antenna on it.
Steve R.
Gregg
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
B.A. - you drive around with shortwave in your car?
Brenda Ann
"Gregg" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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B.A. - you drive around with shortwave in your car?
I did, but we sold the car, and the radio, unfortunately, stayed with it.
Used to be nice to be able to listen to NHK, CRI, Radio OZ, VOA, etc. when
out in the schticks with nothing else to listen to. Our new car, A Ford
Flex, is not conducive to installing an aftermarket radio.. :( It's got a
decent AM/FM with lots of bells and whistles in it, but I can't even change
the station spacing for 9 KHz, which makes it a bit crappy sounding trying
to listen to AFN stations on 1197 and 1512. Not to mention most of the
Korean stations that don't happen to fall on even 10's.
I miss my shortwave.. in the car out on the open road is the only place in
Korea that you have anything like a listenable band.
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately?
What about one of the small mobile dc to daylight ham rigs? If you are a bit
creative, you can mount the rig in the trunk and stick a small control
panel in the passenger compartment.
http://rffun.com/catalog/hamhf/0703.html
http://rffun.com/catalog/hamhf/1817.html
Plus there were many that are no longer made that would do well, if you
can get them over there, or shipped to you.
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
RHF
- Thinking about it,
- an MFJ tuning box sitting under the dash
- should be a real conversation starter.
-
- Cheers,
- Bill Baka
They ask "What's THAT For ?"
Your reply "Oh THAT Helps me to Hear . . .
the Aliens Landing at Area 51."
http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/violence/area_51.jpg
.
RHF
Tune-A-Stick -and- Portable Wire Antenna (PWA) for Whip
Antenna Couplers to External Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/29c232b1c5d205ea
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/09c73c4c94625fc7
* Portable Wire Antenna "PWA"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/583
* Three Ways to Use the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/306
* The "PWA" [Portable Wire Antenna]...
for use with 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/249
Slip the Plastic Tube with the Wire wrapped
around it over your Car's Whip Antenna
=G////////////////////////////////////A=
One Lead 'G' to the Car's Body {Ground}
One Lead 'A' to the External Antenna
iane ~ RHF
.
Krypsis
indicators on the dial. It was one of those common brands (AWA,
Kreisler, Pye) but exactly which one escapes me now. It was a long time
ago. Not my car, a friends, and we used to go on trips in it. Slow to
warm up and heavy on the battery if you used it too long without the
engine running. Caught us out once or twice but a roll start got us
under way again.
I seem to recall that car radio sensitivity on MW broadcast bands was a
lot better in the fifties and sixties than it is on modern car radios.
During the evenings, I used to be able to pick up stations 1 or 2
thousand kilometres away with ease. Nowadays, I only need to be a couple
of hundred kilometres way from my home city and I lose the signal. Maybe
the transmission power has been reduced? I know there was a time when
the MW spectrum became a bit crowded So that might have been why the
front end sensitivity of car radios was decreased. Well, the MW spectrum
is getting less crowded now.
Krypsis
helm...@wowway.com
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dave
You sound like Abe Simpson. How the fuck did
Swiss civilians get American helium in the middle of WWII?
dave
Shortwave listening was very popular then. Now...
dxAce
dave wrote:
Now... we have bitching 'tard boys whose drug use has caused them to lose
their huevos and begin to whine...
cuh...@webtv.net
coin, building and repairing equipment for both the Allies and the Axis
powers.
Helium filled balloons with long wire antennas,,, good for pirate radio
too.
I just now did a www.devilfinder.com for,
Becker Shortwave Radios for cars
D. Peter Maus
I have a Becker 2340 I used in my 308 for years. That was the
last aftermarket radio I saw with SW. I've heard tell of some
Sony's, but not being interested in anything from Sony, I never
pursued them.
The Becker offered excellent SW performance on the car's antenna.
A little ignition noise in deep fades, but not enough to complain
about. The injectors on 18 wheelers were more of a problem than
ignition noise. It has 40 or so memories. And exceptional audio.
As for driving out into the weeds...we had a member of this
group, living in Colorado, who used to drive out into Wyoming and
about two miles outside of Jackson Hole would hook his SW-2 up to
the guard rail and use that as a makeshift pseudo Beverage.
With dramatic results.
But attaching anything to your car radio antenna will not get you
where you want to go.
A car antenna does not really operate as an antenna. It's too
short for medium wave. It operates more like a capacitive element,
and is trimmed at the input to optimize performance. Attach a wire
to the car antenna, and you'll change it's capacitive value, and
throw your input out of balance. You're also likely to change that
whip into something that behaves more like a real antenna and
seriously overload your front end. On some models this can be
disastrous.
A better option would be to see if you can find an in-dash on the
used market, or take something like an SW-8 with you, mount it
underdash and enjoy it as a real shortwave receiver with a separate
antenna system.
Bill Baka
>
> B.A. - you drive around with shortwave in your car?
When possible, yes. I used to do a once per week commute to work and
found myself in some really deserted places coming home. No in dash
radio but I did have a marine RDF for AM DX'ing. I still have that radio
and a solar cell that will power it so listening is free. The whole idea
of a shortwave in the car is not to listen while driving but to be able
to drive to a noise free area and listen.
Make sense now?
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
Did I mention I live in a real hick town even though it is in California?
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
Sounds like my younger days, dead battery just means push with friends
and jump in to pop the clutch and get going. I miss sticks.
> I seem to recall that car radio sensitivity on MW broadcast bands was a
> lot better in the fifties and sixties than it is on modern car radios.
Me too. In the sixties I used to drive out to the middle of nowhere and
park and listen. I could DX AM better that way than at home.
> During the evenings, I used to be able to pick up stations 1 or 2
> thousand kilometres away with ease. Nowadays, I only need to be a couple
> of hundred kilometres way from my home city and I lose the signal. Maybe
> the transmission power has been reduced? I know there was a time when
> the MW spectrum became a bit crowded So that might have been why the
> front end sensitivity of car radios was decreased. Well, the MW spectrum
> is getting less crowded now.
>
> Krypsis
>
>
>
>
>
Thankfully. I want to start DX'ing for QSL cards again if they still
give them out.
Cheers,
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately?
>
> What about one of the small mobile dc to daylight ham rigs? If you are a bit
> creative, you can mount the rig in the trunk and stick a small control
> panel in the passenger compartment.
>
> http://rffun.com/catalog/hamhf/0703.html
> http://rffun.com/catalog/hamhf/1817.html
>
> Plus there were many that are no longer made that would do well, if you
> can get them over there, or shipped to you.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
don't want to spend a ton of money. Also, any decent mobile should have
a noise blanker, not just a limiter. I did like the built in antenna
tuner but it seems a transmitter would be needed to optimize things.
Thanks,
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
driving anyway. The fading would drive me up the wall. I know the deal
on car antenna lengths and the antennas on most cars would probably tune
to 144 MHz or somewhere way up there. Figuring out how to fake a good
earth ground might be a challenge unless the mass of the car would make
it a good ground.
All for now.
Bill Baka
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> I looked and like the radios but I am only looking for a receiver and
> don't want to spend a ton of money. Also, any decent mobile should have
> a noise blanker, not just a limiter. I did like the built in antenna
> tuner but it seems a transmitter would be needed to optimize things.
> Thanks,
Those were just examples. There are many old rigs, Icom's 706 has gone through
3 or 4 generations, the low power version (703) has gone through 2 or 3,
Alinco and Kenwood have also made similar rigs, Yaseu has made 2 versions of
the 817 and so on.
While the new ones are expensive, some of the older ones may be available
a lot cheaper.
Depending upon which one you get, you can get various filter options or DSP.
For example, there were two Kenwood TS-50s HF rigs which sold on eBay for
less than $500 in the last week. While I am not a fan of eBay, that should
be a good guage of the price.
An original (no DSP) IC-706 sold for around the same price. It adds VHF
coverage and possibly can be used as a scanner. The latest version (mark IIG)
includes VHF and UHF, DSP and receives from .03-199 and 400-470 MHz.
The ICOM and Kenwood are two piece units, the front panel comes off and can
be mounted in the passenger compartment, while the transmitter is mounted
in the trunk. The Yaseu is one single unit.
dave
>>
>>
> That actually makes good sense since I don't want to listen while
> driving anyway. The fading would drive me up the wall. I know the deal
> on car antenna lengths and the antennas on most cars would probably tune
> to 144 MHz or somewhere way up there.
I think your passive car whip is quarter wave resonant at 98 MHz (ca. 31
inches).
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
I found this doing a web search:
You can download the manual at:
http://www.sony.com.my/support/manual/product/cdx-gt470us
I know nothing more about them.
RHF
"BB",
Grounds at a 'Remote' DXing Spot -wrt-
Making the Ground 'Connection' During
a Mobile DXing Field Trip.
You drive up to a Rest-Stop, Camp Ground
and Attach a Ground Clamp to some piece
of Metal {Pipe} coming out of the Ground.
-or- Road-Side Marker with Metal Pole and
Cement Footing + Just add {pour} a Gallon
Jug of Water with a Once of Salt in it on the
base and around the earth.
Ready Make Mobile "Ground Clamp" : One-Half
[Black] of a Set of 12 VDC Battery 'Jumper Cables'.
-tip- Don't forget it whenb you leave.
An alternative would be to use a 30~45 piece of
Bare-Copper-Wire that you roll-out and lay directly
on the bare earth {ground} as a Counterpoise.
Last pick your favorite 'remote' DXing spot and
install a 4 Foot Ground Rod or a buried Bare
Copper Wire Counterpoise for you to use when
you are 'there'.
iane ~ RHF
.
cuh...@webtv.net
ground, for a ground.
cuhulin
mi...@sushi.com
> m...@sushi.com wrote:
> > On Nov 21, 4:55 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
> >> from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
> >> fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
> >> thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
> >> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
> >> for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
> >> take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
> >> weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
> >> stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
> >> connect the car antenna to it.
> >> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>
> >> Bill Baka
>
> > other shortwave stations on a rotating basis.
>
> The point was I want to do my own searching and not listen to some lame
> satellite station. I will *never* buy a car that requires me to pay a
> satellite station $10 every month.
>
>
>
> > If you are going to do any SWL with a fixed antenna, there is really
> > no need to mount it in the car. I have a Welbrook ALA100 that I have
> > used in the field many times with home brew wire loops.
>
> >http://www.lazygranch.com/images/radio/loop1.jpg
>
> Interesting looking setup, could be used as a direction finder too.
> I have a marine RDF but it uses a pre-mounted loop-stick in the rotating
> antenna. Too bad it cuts off at just over the old 2805 frequencies.
> Thanks for the picture.
>
> Bill Baka
I've done NDB DFing with the loop. It works great for that purpose.
However, it is better to use a smaller loop. I find 2ft on a side
works best for DFing. I have a setup with a holder for a compass. That
loop uses copper pipe.
Regarding shortwave radios in the car, the specs on the Sony are
pretty poor. I'm not sure it was targeted for the US market, where
there is little good shortwave to hear, other than VOA. I've seen
people mount those DC to daylight radios in the car under the dash for
shortwave.
Bill Baka
This is California. A rest stop means pissing on the side of the road.
Every other state has decent rest stops but this entire state has maybe
a dozen I have found over the years.
>
> -or- Road-Side Marker with Metal Pole and
> Cement Footing + Just add {pour} a Gallon
> Jug of Water with a Once of Salt in it on the
> base and around the earth.
Pedestrian on highway ticket.
>
> Ready Make Mobile "Ground Clamp" : One-Half
> [Black] of a Set of 12 VDC Battery 'Jumper Cables'.
> -tip- Don't forget it whenb you leave.
Learned that when drive in movies were popular and drove off with a speaker.
>
> An alternative would be to use a 30~45 piece of
> Bare-Copper-Wire that you roll-out and lay directly
> on the bare earth {ground} as a Counterpoise.
Now you are getting where I want.
>
> Last pick your favorite 'remote' DXing spot and
> install a 4 Foot Ground Rod or a buried Bare
> Copper Wire Counterpoise for you to use when
> you are 'there'.
>
> iane ~ RHF
> .
The last I can do since I have a favorite swimming hole that almost
nobody knows about and is at least 5 miles from any kind of power lines
or even people. Static free listening would be a virtual orgasm for me.
Probably everyone else too.
Bill Baka
Gregg
wrote:
> "Gregg" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:437eaf58-c899-44da...@e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 21, 7:06 pm, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
> wrote:
>
> B.A. - you drive around with shortwave in your car?
>
> I did, but we sold the car, and the radio, unfortunately, stayed with it.
> Used to be nice to be able to listen to NHK, CRI, Radio OZ, VOA, etc. when
> out in the schticks with nothing else to listen to. Our new car, A Ford
> Flex, is not conducive to installing an aftermarket radio.. :( It's got a
> decent AM/FM with lots of bells and whistles in it, but I can't even change
> the station spacing for 9 KHz, which makes it a bit crappy sounding trying
> to listen to AFN stations on 1197 and 1512. Not to mention most of the
> Korean stations that don't happen to fall on even 10's.
>
> I miss my shortwave.. in the car out on the open road is the only place in
> Korea that you have anything like a listenable band.
I can imagine, I'm aware of your setup. After reading this thread I
think I may put a receiver back in my car with a 108" ( I think) steel
whip. That is the best antenna for shortwave that I found. I tried
everything under the sun and the steel whip is hands down the best
mobile shortwave antenna you can use, not many people though will
drill a hole through their rear quarter panel - but I have and
will. :-)
Gregg
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ha! Yeah, back when I had my "fun car" with six antennas, I'd always
hear the response from truck drivers. I had my regular car antenna in
the front that I replaced with a larger - more sturdy antenna. I had
three scanner antennas, one antenna each on the far outside corner of
the trunk drilled through the trunk lid and the other antenna was a
glass mount that I put directly in the middle of the rear window. Then
I had a seven and a half foot skipshooter mounted (drilled through)
right in the middle of the trunk and lastly - the 108" steel whip on
the rear quarter panel.
I think I may go more covert this time around, the only problem would
be the shortwave antenna.
Gregg
> On Nov 21, 4:55 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
> > from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
> > fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
> > thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
> > The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
> > for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
> > take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
> > weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
> > stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
> > connect the car antenna to it.
> > Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>
> > Bill Baka
>
> Tune-A-Stick -and- Portable Wire Antenna (PWA) for Whip
>
> * The "PWA" [Portable Wire Antenna]...
>
> Slip the Plastic Tube with the Wire wrapped
> around it over your Car's Whip Antenna
> =G////////////////////////////////////A=
> One Lead 'G' to the Car's Body {Ground}
> One Lead 'A' to the External Antenna
>
> iane ~ RHF
> .
Those last three links can't be read unless you sign in to Yahoo? That
about stinks.:-I
Gregg
>
> > Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
> > from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
> > fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
> > thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
> > The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
> > for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
> > take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
> > weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
> > stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
> > connect the car antenna to it.
> > Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>
> > Bill Baka
>
> Tune-A-Stick -and- Portable Wire Antenna (PWA) for Whip
>
> * The "PWA" [Portable Wire Antenna]...
>
> Slip the Plastic Tube with the Wire wrapped
> around it over your Car's Whip Antenna
> =G////////////////////////////////////A=
> One Lead 'G' to the Car's Body {Ground}
> One Lead 'A' to the External Antenna
>
> iane ~ RHF
Ah, I saw the google link. I tried to Tims and other versions of
coupling, that's why I purchased the longer and tougher radio antenna
to begin with. It definitely is better than any other antenna for
shortwave except for the steel whip. Anyone who has used a steel whip
knows that it has no peers when it comes to shortwave listening in a
vehicle, of course that is just my opinion but if there's better I
want to know.
Gregg
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, I have gone "old school" for fifteen years when it comes to AM
car radio. I don't really listen to music so I make sure to go to the
junk yard and find me an old (just AM) radio that I install myself. I
am presently using an old Delco radio that is "extremely" selective, I
can barely turn the dial without hearing something.
I had all (in my *fun* car) the receivers/scanners and CB mounted to
1/2" steel plates that I welded to the front and rear of the car.
GROUND - GROUND - GROUND - many think it's only important for
transmitting but it's also smart on the receiving end.
cuh...@webtv.net
My dad used to own a blue 1955 Ford Station Wagon car.The AM radio in
that car was very good for AM DXing.
cuhulin
Brenda Ann
> Korea that you have anything like a listenable band.
I can imagine, I'm aware of your setup. After reading this thread I
think I may put a receiver back in my car with a 108" ( I think) steel
whip. That is the best antenna for shortwave that I found. I tried
everything under the sun and the steel whip is hands down the best
mobile shortwave antenna you can use, not many people though will
drill a hole through their rear quarter panel - but I have and
will. :-)
***************************************************************************************************
I only wish I could find a 108" whip to buy in this country. All I find are
center or base loads, good, of course, for only one narrow band. I have a
nice CB I'd like to put in one of our vehicles (they even allow you to use
FM modulation here!).
I also have a DC to daylight Kenwood RZ-1. 500 KHz - 824 MHz. Thing even
gets FM stereo, and, get this: I can receive TELEVISION, yes, EVEN the
VIDEO! It's not exactly HD quality, but it could spew NTSC/PAL/SECAM video
from an RCA connector on the back. Probably does a better job on SS. Looks
like it could even be mounted in-dash in a DIN sized hole, and look for
practical purposes like any car stereo (nice for states that don't like you
to be able to receive police calls, etc.).
Unfortunately, neither of our cars uses a DIN size radio, and I'd probably
be disowned if I pulled out the CD player to put it in anyway. :)
Gregg
wrote:
That was a great post Peter. I liked the guardrail story.:-)
My friend hooked onto the railroad tracks once before keying up a lot
of wattage on his CB, he used the RR tracks as his ground.<shaking my
head>
I really never thought about hooking to the RR tracks for a shortwave
antenna, what do you think the results would be?
What type of car were you refering to when you said "308"?? Just
curious.
Gregg
>
> - Show quoted text -
Just so you know Bill, you *can* listen and drive without fading if
you're listening to a powerhouse. I listened to
China's show from the beginning on my way to Columbus and some hams
for the rest of my hour and twenty minute
drive from Cincinnati.
Like I said earlier, the best way to ground IMO your receiver or
transceiver is too run to the hardware store or your junk box and
pickup a quarter to half inch piece of metal/steel and drill the
appropriate size hole and weld it to the frame of your
car. If you don't know how to weld or don't have a arc welder....go to
any body shop. Either they'll do it for free or throw them a twenty
spot and it's done. Ground - ground and more ground is my motto. Good
luck and let us know what you do.
Gregg
wrote:
> "Gregg" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6d100607-3b44-4d27...@p19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 21, 11:14 pm, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I miss my shortwave.. in the car out on the open road is the only place in
> > Korea that you have anything like a listenable band.
>
> I can imagine, I'm aware of your setup. After reading this thread I
> think I may put a receiver back in my car with a 108" ( I think) steel
> whip. That is the best antenna for shortwave that I found. I tried
> everything under the sun and the steel whip is hands down the best
> mobile shortwave antenna you can use, not many people though will
> drill a hole through their rear quarter panel - but I have and
> will. :-)
>
>
> I only wish I could find a 108" whip to buy in this country. All I find are
> center or base loads, good, of course, for only one narrow band. I have a
> nice CB I'd like to put in one of our vehicles (they even allow you to use
> FM modulation here!).
>
> I also have a DC to daylight Kenwood RZ-1. 500 KHz - 824 MHz. Thing even
> gets FM stereo, and, get this: I can receive TELEVISION, yes, EVEN the
> VIDEO! It's not exactly HD quality, but it could spew NTSC/PAL/SECAM video
> from an RCA connector on the back. Probably does a better job on SS. Looks
> like it could even be mounted in-dash in a DIN sized hole, and look for
> practical purposes like any car stereo (nice for states that don't like you
> to be able to receive police calls, etc.).
>
> Unfortunately, neither of our cars uses a DIN size radio, and I'd probably
> be disowned if I pulled out the CD player to put it in anyway. :)
You make me laugh.:-D Of course your cars don't use a DIN size radio
( though I have absolutely no idea
what you are talking about) that would be too easy.
What would you use the whip for? For your CB or shortwave? You may
want to test the strength of your
love by pulling out the CD player. ;-)
Krypsis
---------------------------------------------------------------
ISO 7736
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
International standard ISO 7736 defines a standard size for car audio
head units. The standard was originally established by the German
standards body Deutsches Institut f�r Normung as DIN 75490, and is
therefore commonly referred to as the "DIN car radio size". It was
adopted as an international standard in 1984.
Head units generally come in either single DIN (180 x 50 mm panel) or
double DIN (180 x 100 mm panel) size. The depth is not standardized. The
US standard for a DIN radio is 2" x 7" and the Double DIN sized radio is
a 4" x 7".
--------------------------------------------------------------
DIN standards have been around for ages but, since it is of German
origin, may not be popular in some parts of the world. My TV uses DIN
connectors and a couple of my radios use them as well. From what I am
told, all European cars use DIN connectors for diagnostic equipment. No
doubt the signals appearing on those connectors conform to DIN standards
as well.
Krypsis
dave
>
> Like I said earlier, the best way to ground IMO your receiver or
> transceiver is too run to the hardware store or your junk box and
> pickup a quarter to half inch piece of metal/steel and drill the
> appropriate size hole and weld it to the frame of your
> car. If you don't know how to weld or don't have a arc welder....go to
> any body shop. Either they'll do it for free or throw them a twenty
> spot and it's done. Ground - ground and more ground is my motto. Good
> luck and let us know what you do.
>
What if your car has no frame?
dave
> Gregg wrote:
>> GROUND - GROUND - GROUND - many think it's only important for
>> transmitting but it's also smart on the receiving end.
>
>
At best, at HF, a car can only be an asymmetric dipole. No ground.
dxAce
dave wrote:
What if your drug addled ass has no direction, boy?
dave
D. Peter Maus
Not sure. That would be the fun of the experiment. It may be
little different than the guard rail. It may be something entirely
different. The results should be unexpected and dramatic.
> What type of car were you refering to when you said "308"?? Just
> curious.
Think "Magnum PI."
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
Great car. As I recall it was a 308GTBI, or like that? I went to the factory and
saw them built right along with my once loved FIAT X1/9 !!!
D. Peter Maus
DIN stands for 'Deutsches Institut f�r Normung,' or the German
Institute for Standardization.
In this particular case it refers to standard: DIN ISO 7736, size
standard for car audio head units.
It's the standard for most European and many American head unit
dash mounting applications.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
And some plugs on many radios are DIN.
dxAce
MI
USA
D. Peter Maus
top, and 'I' was for injection. His was a GTS(pyder), carbureted.
Mine was the 308 GTSI-QV. Mine was injected, 32 valve on the same
3.0L V-8. It wasn't quick, but it was FAST. And serious fun to drive.
You had an X1/9? Excellent.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
Yeah, metallic black, 1979 version as I recall, with the more integrated bumpers. A
great car, put at least 170k plus on it from coast to coast.
> Excellent.
D. Peter Maus
That's actually pretty good for that engine. It wasn't known for
longevity.
170k is a serious amount of driving fun. I'd say you got your
money out of it. You got everybody's money out of it.
Nicely done.
>
>> Excellent.
>
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
Thanks. The car always started with just a click of the key. Never a problem. It was the
undercarriage that failed.
D. Peter Maus
cuh...@webtv.net
I am talkin about metal frames.
Seen any Morgan cars lately? They build them in Limeyland.
Guten Tag,,, Guten Morgen.
cuhulin, the ass, but not a drug addled ass
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
If you recall the design it had a trunk in the front as well as the rear. What happened to
mine was that moisture up under the front apparently rotted out the area that supported the
front struts.
D. Peter Maus
No kidding. Damn. You're lucky something didn't let go on the road.
I've only encountered dramatic rust like that once. On a Renault
R-5.
>
cuh...@webtv.net
areas too, in the Winter time, cars and trucks rust out pretty
fast.(Rust Buckets, Rust never sleeps) Around here they use sand instead
of salt.Howsomever, about a year or so ago, I read somewhere they might
start mixing salt into the sand.That is a DUMB idea!
Y'all should look around under your vehicles every once in a while and
spray that salt s.hit off of there.
cuhulin
Bill Baka
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>> I looked and like the radios but I am only looking for a receiver and
>> don't want to spend a ton of money. Also, any decent mobile should have
>> a noise blanker, not just a limiter. I did like the built in antenna
>> tuner but it seems a transmitter would be needed to optimize things.
>> Thanks,
>
> Those were just examples. There are many old rigs, Icom's 706 has gone through
> 3 or 4 generations, the low power version (703) has gone through 2 or 3,
> Alinco and Kenwood have also made similar rigs, Yaseu has made 2 versions of
> the 817 and so on.
>
> While the new ones are expensive, some of the older ones may be available
> a lot cheaper.
>
> Depending upon which one you get, you can get various filter options or DSP.
>
> For example, there were two Kenwood TS-50s HF rigs which sold on eBay for
> less than $500 in the last week. While I am not a fan of eBay, that should
> be a good guage of the price.
>
> An original (no DSP) IC-706 sold for around the same price. It adds VHF
> coverage and possibly can be used as a scanner. The latest version (mark IIG)
> includes VHF and UHF, DSP and receives from .03-199 and 400-470 MHz.
>
> The ICOM and Kenwood are two piece units, the front panel comes off and can
> be mounted in the passenger compartment, while the transmitter is mounted
> in the trunk. The Yaseu is one single unit.
>
> Geoff.
>
Geoff,
Think receiver and we are on the same page. If I got into chatting on a
transceiver my wife would have to send out the search party. Some of the
rigs you mentioned I have seen, some not.
Thanks again,
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>
>
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/s.html?LH_SellerWithStore=1&_kw=shortwave&_kw=sony&_kw=car&_ckw=radio&_sofindtype=5
>
> You can download the manual at:
>
> http://www.sony.com.my/support/manual/product/cdx-gt470us
>
> I know nothing more about them.
>
> Geoff.
I saw the CD slot and conclude that it is consumer fluff. I may be
looking for something that doesn't exist, like a dedicated DX'ers type
radio without surround sound, Dolby, or any bling garbage.
Bill Baka
Brenda Ann
"D. Peter Maus" <dpete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:hef3nl$qoi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Thanks. The car always started with just a click of the key. Never a
>>>> problem. It was the
>>>> undercarriage that failed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Really. In what way?
>>
>> If you recall the design it had a trunk in the front as well as the rear.
>> What happened to
>> mine was that moisture up under the front apparently rotted out the area
>> that supported the
>> front struts.
>>
>>
>
>
> No kidding. Damn. You're lucky something didn't let go on the road.
>
> I've only encountered dramatic rust like that once. On a Renault R-5.
>
Fiat must have had a real issue with rust. I had a 128, cute little car.
Was driving it to work one day when it just stopped moving, but the engine
was still running. Pushed it the rest of the way to work (only 4 blocks or
so) and had a look at it. The front behind the bumper had rusted out and the
strut that held the engine up and fallen, allowing the engine to drop,
disengaging the transaxle from the wheels..
Fortunately, we had a metal shop where I worked at the time, and I was able
to fabricate a fix and got to drive home.
Bill Baka
> On Nov 21, 7:32 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> m...@sushi.com wrote:
>>> On Nov 21, 4:55 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
>>>> from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
>>>> fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
>>>> thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
>>>> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
>>>> for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
>>>> take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
>>>> weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
>>>> stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
>>>> connect the car antenna to it.
>>> There is always XM radio. BBC world service all the time, and many
>>> other shortwave stations on a rotating basis.
>> The point was I want to do my own searching and not listen to some lame
>> satellite station. I will *never* buy a car that requires me to pay a
>> satellite station $10 every month.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you are going to do any SWL with a fixed antenna, there is really
>>> no need to mount it in the car. I have a Welbrook ALA100 that I have
>>> used in the field many times with home brew wire loops.
>>> http://www.lazygranch.com/images/radio/loop1.jpg
>> Interesting looking setup, could be used as a direction finder too.
>> I have a marine RDF but it uses a pre-mounted loop-stick in the rotating
>> antenna. Too bad it cuts off at just over the old 2805 frequencies.
>> Thanks for the picture.
>>
>> Bill Baka
>
> I've done NDB DFing with the loop. It works great for that purpose.
> However, it is better to use a smaller loop. I find 2ft on a side
> works best for DFing. I have a setup with a holder for a compass. That
> loop uses copper pipe.
>
> Regarding shortwave radios in the car, the specs on the Sony are
> pretty poor. I'm not sure it was targeted for the US market, where
> there is little good shortwave to hear, other than VOA. I've seen
> people mount those DC to daylight radios in the car under the dash for
> shortwave.
That is what turned me off on the Sony, no real specs. What I want may
not exist or may be relegated to an Ebay find. When I see consumer
blather and no real data I turn away.
It's non-critical so I'm not pursuing it that hard.
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
> http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/mfj306-car-radio-shortwave-converter-pr-506.html
>
This site just got bookmarked.
That one URL just made this thread worth the bother for me.
Cheers,
Bill Baka
Bill Baka
> On Nov 22, 12:08 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 21, 6:03 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Brenda Ann wrote:
>>>> "Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:hea25a$8dq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few from
>>>>> across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a fad. I
>>>>> would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box thing and
>>>>> be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
>>>>> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines for
>>>>> miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory) take
>>>>> a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable weight
>>>>> and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is stuck
>>>>> firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and connect
>>>>> the car antenna to it.
>>>>> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>>>>> Bill Baka
>>>> requisite CD/MP3 player, etc.) that have, although not full coverage, at
>>>> least pretty decent coverage.
>>> I will go look. A CD/MP3 player would be wasted on me since I prefer to
>>> listen to the sounds the car and road make while I am driving.
>>> Was going to look. The Sony home page won't work with my version of
>>> Firefox and IE will never be allowed to slime my drive.
>>> Maybe Egghead or Frys or some other large consumer place.
>>>> As for the antenna, car radios are made to impedence match to the relatively
>>>> short standard car radio antenna, and usually do not respond too well to
>>>> additional antenna length. You CAN, however, place a variable capacitor
>>>> between the car antenna and your random longwire, and tune it for best
>>>> reception for a given frequency. This would at least give you the advantage
>>>> of the extra capture area.
>>> As a rule when I buy a car one of the first things I adjust is the
>>> antenna trimmer, which is usually a bit off anyway. Funny how most
>>> people don't even know these things exist.
>> - Thinking about it,
>> - an MFJ tuning box sitting under the dash
>> - should be a real conversation starter.
>> -
>> - Cheers,
>> - Bill Baka
>>
>> They ask "What's THAT For ?"
>>
>> Your reply "Oh THAT Helps me to Hear . . .
>> the Aliens Landing at Area 51."http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/violence/area_51.jpg
>> .- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Ha! Yeah, back when I had my "fun car" with six antennas, I'd always
> hear the response from truck drivers. I had my regular car antenna in
> the front that I replaced with a larger - more sturdy antenna. I had
> three scanner antennas, one antenna each on the far outside corner of
> the trunk drilled through the trunk lid and the other antenna was a
> glass mount that I put directly in the middle of the rear window. Then
> I had a seven and a half foot skipshooter mounted (drilled through)
> right in the middle of the trunk and lastly - the 108" steel whip on
> the rear quarter panel.
>
> I think I may go more covert this time around, the only problem would
> be the shortwave antenna.
>
Six antennas? I'll bet they thought you were some kind of government
*super smokey* or something. Did truckers slow down around you?
Grinning at the thought.
Bill Baka
D. Peter Maus
Well, that sounds like a bad day. I've not had anything like
THAT much fun. I did strip the splines off the input receiver on the
torque converter of a '71 Torino, and went freewheeling through
South St Louis one afternoon. But nothing like that kind of rust
failure.
There for awhile, I guess FIAT was getting their engineers and
manufacturing techniques from Peugeot: The cars showed rust on the
showroom floor.
Sure saved a lot of time.
My uncle sold Peugeots and Renaults in the 50's and 60's. So, he
always had one in the driveway. Fun little cars. Not exactly
quality, but seriously fun little cars. One of the reasons I've
always wanted a Dauphine. Pre rusted, or not.
Bill Baka
> On Nov 22, 1:02 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> D. Peter Maus wrote:
>>> On 11/21/09 18:55 , Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
>>>> fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
>>>> thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
>>>> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
>>>> for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
>>>> take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
>>>> weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
>>>> stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
>>>> connect the car antenna to it.
>>>> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>>>> Bill Baka
>>> aftermarket radio I saw with SW. I've heard tell of some Sony's, but not
>>> being interested in anything from Sony, I never pursued them.
>>> The Becker offered excellent SW performance on the car's antenna. A
>>> little ignition noise in deep fades, but not enough to complain about.
>>> The injectors on 18 wheelers were more of a problem than ignition noise.
>>> It has 40 or so memories. And exceptional audio.
>>> As for driving out into the weeds...we had a member of this group,
>>> living in Colorado, who used to drive out into Wyoming and about two
>>> miles outside of Jackson Hole would hook his SW-2 up to the guard rail
>>> and use that as a makeshift pseudo Beverage.
>>> With dramatic results.
>>> But attaching anything to your car radio antenna will not get you
>>> where you want to go.
>>> A car antenna does not really operate as an antenna. It's too short
>>> for medium wave. It operates more like a capacitive element, and is
>>> trimmed at the input to optimize performance. Attach a wire to the car
>>> antenna, and you'll change it's capacitive value, and throw your input
>>> out of balance. You're also likely to change that whip into something
>>> that behaves more like a real antenna and seriously overload your front
>>> end. On some models this can be disastrous.
>>> A better option would be to see if you can find an in-dash on the used
>>> market, or take something like an SW-8 with you, mount it underdash and
>>> enjoy it as a real shortwave receiver with a separate antenna system.
>> driving anyway. The fading would drive me up the wall. I know the deal
>> on car antenna lengths and the antennas on most cars would probably tune
>> to 144 MHz or somewhere way up there. Figuring out how to fake a good
>> earth ground might be a challenge unless the mass of the car would make
>> it a good ground.
>> All for now.
>> Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> you're listening to a powerhouse. I listened to
> China's show from the beginning on my way to Columbus and some hams
> for the rest of my hour and twenty minute
> drive from Cincinnati.
>
> Like I said earlier, the best way to ground IMO your receiver or
> transceiver is too run to the hardware store or your junk box and
> pickup a quarter to half inch piece of metal/steel and drill the
> appropriate size hole and weld it to the frame of your
> car. If you don't know how to weld or don't have a arc welder....go to
> any body shop. Either they'll do it for free or throw them a twenty
> spot and it's done. Ground - ground and more ground is my motto. Good
> luck and let us know what you do.
>
stealth hot rod and I am doing the engine right now so it will be a
while. After 250,000 miles I finally need to bore the block of my trusty
old 440 police engine. I bought the car in 1985 and can't bear to part
with it. It's a tank, but a trusty and fast tank.
Bill Baka
Krypsis
the seventies. That said, I owned 3 of the 128s, the last being the 3P,
a nice little hatchback bought new in 1977. I kept the hatch the
longest, passing it on to one of my nephews in about 2000. Apart from a
couple of stretched valves, a common habit I'm told, we did nothing to
the engine in 200,000 kilometres. Only rust it seemed to have was around
the hatch glass. It was still a runner when my nephew onsold it to
someone in N.S.W. about 2 or 3 years back. I rarely drove it in all the
time we had it as I had a work supplied vehicle for most of my working
life. It was just a glorified family shopping trolley. Probably did less
than 3,000 of the odometer total and a thousand of that was when we
delivered it to my nephew in another state. It was on that trip that I
discovered the standard fitment radio had good AM dx qualities. Picked
up stations from all over when we were miles from any nearby towns.
Could even pick up Melbourne station from the middle of N.S.W. Don't
know what brand it was but suspect it was some Italian variant. All the
electrics on the Fiat were Italian manufacture so reasonable to assume
the radio was as well.
Krypsis
RHF
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> > Bill Baka wrote:
>
> >> Anybody tried it or anything like it?
>
> > I found this doing a web search:
>
>
> > You can download the manual at:
>
> >http://www.sony.com.my/support/manual/product/cdx-gt470us
>
> > I know nothing more about them.
>
> > Geoff.
>
- looking for something that doesn't exist, like a dedicated DX'ers
type
- radio without surround sound, Dolby, or any bling garbage.
-
- Bill Baka
Then take a look at the Drake SW8 Receiver
http://www.universal-radio.com/used/sold082.html
.
RHF
> On Nov 22, 12:08 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 21, 6:03 pm, Bill Baka <bb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Brenda Ann wrote:
> > > > "Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:hea25a$8dq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > >> across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a fad. I
> > > >> would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box thing and
> > > >> be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
> > > >> The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines for
> > > >> miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory) take
> > > >> a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable weight
> > > >> and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is stuck
> > > >> firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and connect
> > > >> the car antenna to it.
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> hear the response from truck drivers. I had my regular car antenna in
> the front that I replaced with a larger - more sturdy antenna. I had
> three scanner antennas, one antenna each on the far outside corner of
> the trunk drilled through the trunk lid and the other antenna was a
> glass mount that I put directly in the middle of the rear window. Then
> I had a seven and a half foot skipshooter mounted (drilled through)
> right in the middle of the trunk and lastly - the 108" steel whip on
> the rear quarter panel.
>
> I think I may go more covert this time around, the only problem would
> be the shortwave antenna.
http://76.163.38.81/images/N7EMW%20Mobile/Slide1_outside.JPG
Gregg
> Gregg wrote:
> > want to test the strength of your
> > love by pulling out the CD player. ;-)
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I saved that link. I remember some years back seeing something like
that, I don't remember the maker.
My guess would be that it wouldn't be as good as actually having a
receiver in your car.
Gregg
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ha! That was good. I think mine looked cooler though, I had an actual
truck in the rear.
I really need to do that again, I miss it no doubt.
Gregg
That's sweet. Even better then. Are you planning on keeping a radio
in there from the 60's era?
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
You could just go to the MFJ web site. There you will find the converter,
a download link for the manual and a place to send them a message asking
them any question you want. You can also call them.
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
I was actually quite fortunate that it let go where it did in Muskegon, MI. On a certain city
street there one has (or had) to cross four or five railroad tracks in rather rapid succession,
at not a high rate of speed. It let go then.
Another two or three miles and I would have been on the highway to home probably doing 70 MPH.
Had it all came apart then I might not be here now.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
D. Peter Maus
Yeah, probably would have turned you over.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
> Yeah, probably would have turned you over.
Yeah. I did get a lot of use out of that car though! And, it still had its original exhaust system on
it.
A poor man's Ferrari!
D. Peter Maus
Indeed. I had a g/f years ago, with an X1/9. She couldn't keep it
running for love or money. I spent a weekend going through that
drive train and rebuilt everything I could put my hands on.
Fired it up and took it out for some break-in driving.
VERY serious fun. Not too unlike that 914/6 I was driving at the
time.
I wouldn't mind owning one, myself, today.
>
>
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
The only thing I did to the car later on was remove the catalytic convertor and put some slightly larger
jets in the carb.
It was indeed a very fun car and I miss it like I miss my Dodge Dakota.
D. Peter Maus
Ooohh...no doubt.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
Damn near got killed in the Dakota on a Saturday afternoon just minding my own business.
Only two cars, well maybe three, I ever had totalled. My Opel GT was also totalled by a gal who was 'running
late'.
cuh...@webtv.net
own one now, a 1976 made in Germany Hercules Moped, it has bicycle
pedals on it.
1957 BMW Isetta car, 1961 VW van, 1963 VW beetle car, and a 1970 VW van.
I still have the big thick operators manual that came with the 1957 BMW
Isetta car.
cuhulin
D. Peter Maus
That's gotta hurt. I've only totalled one, myself. A '62
Studebaker GT Hawk. White over Riviera blue. 289 Quad/4 speed, floor
shift, and Twin-Trak Spicer (Dana) 44 rear axel. About 10 years ago.
I'd just finished the restoration. Like 24 hours before. Was driving
it to work when I was at CBS, and I got run into a bridge abutment
by a guy in a Tundra who ran me off the road on the Ohio feeder.
Screw yer crumple zones. That 900lb cast iron block/tranny damned
near wound up in my lap.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
That's kinda what happened with the Opel! Wasn't going very fast, the gal I could see was looking right at me in
her station wagon, then suddenly pulled out from the stop sign. Nailed her right between the doors. Engine in the
Opel was coming up through the dash. And, she had I think two kids in the rear seat.
I had just had the car rebuilt.
D. Peter Maus
Oh, now that's just a crime.
Krypsis
then so wasn't much use to the little woman as a shopping trolley. The
X19 really is a 2 seater, definitely not a 2 + 2
Krypsis
D. Peter Maus
>>
>> Indeed. I had a g/f years ago, with an X1/9. She couldn't keep it
>> running for love or money. I spent a weekend going through that drive
>> train and rebuilt everything I could put my hands on.
>>
>> Fired it up and took it out for some break-in driving.
>>
>> VERY serious fun. Not too unlike that 914/6 I was driving at the time.
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind owning one, myself, today.
>>
> Almost bought one when I bought the 3P. Kids were getting too big by
> then so wasn't much use to the little woman as a shopping trolley. The
> X19 really is a 2 seater, definitely not a 2 + 2
>
> Krypsis
Then the practical solution would be to let the wife take the
station wagon, and you take the X1/9.
When I was married, we had three cars. A 4 seater sedan, her MG
and my MG.
After I got divorced I had 7 cars. Lots of choices. Too much fun.
And a whole lot less maintenance.
dxAce
"D. Peter Maus" wrote:
I'm no longer limber enough to shoe-horn myself into a X1/9.