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moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 20, 2008, 8:31:51 PM3/20/08
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Considering it is virtually impossible for Hillary Clinton to win the
delegate count, or even the popular vote, do you think she will be
able to steal the nomination from Senator Obama via the unelected
"super delegates" (properly they should be called party insiders or
the establishment ruling elite)?

The crazed look of desperation in her eyes is becoming more evident
every passing day. And that makes me worry about Sen. Obama's
safety.

Burr

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:10:49 PM3/20/08
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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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I hate to BUT,
It looks like I am going to vote for McCain!!!

Burr

PS: If I can afford the gas to drive the three counties maybe 3 times Mike.


moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:19:12 PM3/20/08
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On Mar 20, 8:10 pm, "Burr" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I hate to BUT,
> It looks like I am going to vote for McCain!!!
>
> Burr

Read the question. Your answer has absolutely nothing to do with the
poll.

Burr

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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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O

Burr


Burr

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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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YES BUT, I don't care, I would not vote for her....

And after last weeks mess I will not vote for Obama.

Burr
Remember "ABbH" AnyBody but Hillary* in 2008 !


Scooter

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:48:28 PM3/20/08
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She's a cockroach and will find some way to steal the nomination.

Hillary you're a cockroach.

Brenda Ann

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"Scooter" <sm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> She's a cockroach and will find some way to steal the nomination.
>
> Hillary you're a cockroach.

I'm sorry, but I must insist you apologize, quickly, profoundly, and deeply
for this libelous statement....

... to the COCKROACHES!


Unrevealed Source

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:09:45 PM3/20/08
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Many super delegates are elected officials for whom being a super delegate
is a secondary role.


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RHF

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:13:59 PM3/20/08
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Burr - It is a little know fact :
John McCain will be the first . . .
Hispanic US President. ~ RHF
.

Burr

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:38:37 PM3/20/08
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"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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What in the hell are you starting now??

Burr


m II

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:20:49 PM3/20/08
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moh...@mailpanda.com wrote:


It's all in your mind.

http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org/


....is merely a coincidence....


mike

sdgreen

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:44:16 PM3/20/08
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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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Depends on what bribe is offered. Remember, US politics is not about
substance but more on 'what can I do for you' if you vote for me. Total
corruption it is. If you think Obama is any different, just wait for a few
months. Democrats and Republicans are really no different, each are as
corrupt as the other.

So can Clinton out bribe Obama? Likely yes.

moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:44:30 PM3/20/08
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On Mar 20, 10:20 pm, m II <c...@in.the.hat> wrote:
> It's all in your mind.
>
> http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org/
>
> ....is merely a coincidence....
>
> mike

Yes I suspected I was merely being paranoid. My apologies to the
Clintons. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm

RHF

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:45:22 PM3/20/08
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Mohawk,

The Democrat National {Central} Committee of the USA
lead by "Screaming" Howard Dean will allow the States
of Florida and Michigan to Vote/Re-Vote.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/20/ambitious-re-vote-plans-for-michigan-florida-heading-down-the-tubes/

The Super Deligates will be "Forced" to Vote for Hillary
OR ELSE .

For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (20%)
of African-Americans will stay home and NOT Vote.

For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (15%)
of African-Americans will Vote for the Republican US
Presidental Candidate.

=IF= The Democrat Party Turns It Back on Barack [X]
Obama the next generation of African-Americans will
Turn Their Backs on the Democrat Party in increasingly
Large Numbers. Many will be come Independants and
some will be come Republicans.

For the Democrats it is Barack [X] Obama and a 'chance'
at Winning -or- Hillary R. Clinton an a Loss in 2008 and
many Elections to come.

I am betting that common sense will prevail and Barack
[X] Obama will be the Democrat US Presidential Candidate.

the democrats have no other 'choice' ~ RHF
.

sdgreen

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:05:19 AM3/21/08
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"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Mohawk,

---------------------

.... or otherwise the Republicans will most certainly win under McCain.
.

moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:08:12 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 10:45 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote

>
> The Democrat National {Central} Committee of the USA
> lead by "Screaming" Howard Dean will allow the States
> of Florida and Michigan to Vote/Re-Vote.http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/20/ambitious-re-vote-plans-for-m...

>
> The Super Deligates will be "Forced" to Vote for Hillary
> OR ELSE .
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (20%)
> of African-Americans will stay home and NOT Vote.
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (15%)
> of African-Americans will Vote for the Republican US
> Presidental Candidate.
>
> =IF= The Democrat Party Turns It Back on Barack [X]
> Obama the next generation of African-Americans will
> Turn Their Backs on the Democrat Party in increasingly
> Large Numbers. Many will be come Independants and
> some will be come Republicans.
>
> For the Democrats it is Barack [X] Obama and a 'chance'
> at Winning -or- Hillary R. Clinton an a Loss in 2008 and
> many Elections to come.
>
> I am betting that common sense will prevail and Barack
> [X] Obama will be the Democrat US Presidential Candidate.
>
> the democrats have no other 'choice' ~ RHF

RHF your input is appreciated but using FOX NOISE as a source really
undermines your credibility. It is known as FAUX NEWS for a reason -
its mission is to promote an agenda not to objectively report the
news. That is why they employ Goebbels' propaganda technique of
repeating the lie over and over until it becomes accepted as truth.
Thus was born their incessant mantra "FAIR AND BALANCED" .

sdgreen

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:25:27 AM3/21/08
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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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========================

Yes but the entire US media, print or TV to radio news is completely messed
up. One cannot really rely on what they say. Even the weather reports are
suspect. ... then you have the ranting religious nutbats attempting to make
some strange point that has nothing to do with reality.

What ever happend to the professional reporting of the Walter Cronkites
etc.?

==

m II

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Mar 21, 2008, 12:42:31 AM3/21/08
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moh...@mailpanda.com wrote:

> RHF your input is appreciated but using FOX NOISE as a source really
> undermines your credibility. It is known as FAUX NEWS for a reason -
> its mission is to promote an agenda not to objectively report the
> news. That is why they employ Goebbels' propaganda technique of
> repeating the lie over and over until it becomes accepted as truth.
> Thus was born their incessant mantra "FAIR AND BALANCED" .


The 'Big Lie' is wrongly attributed to the Nazis. In fact, it was THEY
who were claiming that the Communists were perpetrating it.


mike

moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:04:01 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 11:42 pm, m II <c...@in.the.hat> wrote:

> The 'Big Lie' is wrongly attributed to the Nazis. In fact, it was THEY
> who were claiming that the Communists were perpetrating it.
>
> mike

The Nazi's didn't originate the concept but they certainly employed
it. In Mein Kampf Hitler criticizedt the Jews for their perceived use
of it. Sixteen years later Goebbels refined and used the technique
with great success.

mi...@sushi.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:05:56 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 9:05 pm, "sdgreen" <sd.gr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote in message

>
> news:2c4b4751-117d-4180...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 20, 5:31 pm, moh...@mailpanda.com wrote:
>
> > Considering it is virtually impossible for Hillary Clinton to win the
> > delegate count, or even the popular vote, do you think she will be
> > able to steal the nomination from Senator Obama via the unelected
> > "super delegates" (properly they should be called party insiders or
> > the establishment ruling elite)?
>
> > The crazed look of desperation in her eyes is becoming more evident
> > every passing day. And that makes me worry about Sen. Obama's
> > safety.
>
> Mohawk,
>
> The Democrat National {Central} Committee of the USA
> lead by "Screaming" Howard Dean will allow the States
> of Florida and Michigan to Vote/Re-Vote.http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/20/ambitious-re-vote-plans-for-m...

>
> The Super Deligates will be "Forced" to Vote for Hillary
> OR ELSE .
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (20%)
> of African-Americans will stay home and NOT Vote.
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (15%)
> of African-Americans will Vote for the Republican US
> Presidental Candidate.
>
> =IF= The Democrat Party Turns It Back on Barack [X]
> Obama the next generation of African-Americans will
> Turn Their Backs on the Democrat Party in increasingly
> Large Numbers. Many will be come Independants and
> some will be come Republicans.
>
> For the Democrats it is Barack [X] Obama and a 'chance'
> at Winning -or- Hillary R. Clinton an a Loss in 2008 and
> many Elections to come.
>
> I am betting that common sense will prevail and Barack
> [X] Obama will be the Democrat US Presidential Candidate.
>
> the democrats have no other 'choice' ~ RHF
>
> ---------------------
>
> .... or otherwise the Republicans will most certainly win under McCain.
> .

Barak had the opportunity to do the right thing. He had the preacher
and bus in close proximity, but alas, he didn't throw the preacher
under the bus. Rather, he decided to throw his campaign under the bus.

Obama is toast.

Burr

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:26:12 AM3/21/08
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<mi...@sushi.com>

>
> Barak had the opportunity to do the right thing. He had the preacher
> and bus in close proximity, but alas, he didn't throw the preacher
> under the bus. Rather, he decided to throw his campaign under the bus.
>
> Obama is toast.

YUP

Burr


moh...@mailpanda.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:33:14 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 11:25 pm, "sdgreen" <sd.gr...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Yes but the entire US media, print or TV to radio news is completely messed
> up. One cannot really rely on what they say. Even the weather reports are
> suspect. ... then you have the ranting religious nutbats attempting to make
> some strange point that has nothing to do with reality.
>
> What ever happend to the professional reporting of the Walter Cronkites
> etc.?

Journalism in America used to be known as "the fourth estate", serving
the public in the role as a quasi checks and balance apparatus.
Regretibly they now serve the interests of their masters - corporate
America.

In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the majority of all news media in
the U.S. Today 5 huge corporations -- Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch's
News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) --
now control most of the media industry in the U.S. General Electric's
NBC is a close sixth. By the by, General Electric is one of the
country's largest defense contractors. Do you really think they were
going to report that the Shrub was lying about Iraq having wmd's? They
made hundreds of millions of dollars off the war.

"The fourth estate" has become "for the estate." Transnational
corporations and Governments being the "estate". "Whose bread I eat
whose song I sing."

RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:32:56 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 10:26 pm, "Burr" <pitzra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> <m...@sushi.com>

>
>
>
> > Barak had the opportunity to do the right thing. He had the preacher
> > and bus in close proximity, but alas, he didn't throw the preacher
> > under the bus. Rather, he decided to throw his campaign under the bus.
>
- - Obama is toast.
-
- YUP
-
- Burr

Mmmm... TOAST ! ~ RHF {a la Homer Simpson :o}
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/8/1/8/5/12675818.jpg
.

dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:48:42 AM3/21/08
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mi...@sushi.com wrote:

Well, he did throw his grandmother under the bus.


RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 6:44:30 AM3/21/08
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> Thus was born their incessant mantra "FAIR AND BALANCED" .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Clinton Takes Lead Over Obama in Gallup Poll (Reuters)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080320/ts_nm/usa_politics_gallup_dc

Transcript of Obama Speech
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9100.html
- - - - Excerpt - - - -
I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas.
I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a
Depression to serve in Patton's Army during World War II and a white
grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth
while he was overseas. I've gone to some of the best schools in
America and lived in one of the world's poorest nations. I am married
to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and
slaveowners -- an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters.
I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of
every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for
as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on
Earth is my story even possible.
* * * Click-On the Link to Read More * * *

You Got To LIKE This Guy for Being Honest.

Question - Could Hillary {Rotten} Clinton Be This Honest ?

Question - Has Hillary {Rotten} Clinton Ever Been This Honest ?

Question - Has Hillary {Rotten} Clinton Opened Up Her Medical Files ?

Question - Has Hillary {Rotten} Clinton Opened Up Her First Lady
Papers ?

oN, oN, oN, oN : srewsnA
.
Barack "Hussein" Obama's legal middle name
may be "Hussein" -but- he is not INSANE !

READ - (OT) : 2008 Election Politics
- This Has Been Another "Insane" Rant by RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4b25706549f48af3

He is Four Times (4X) more Honest that Hillary {Rotten} Clinton.

READ - (OT) : 2008 Election Politics
- The "Clintonistas" to Sabotage the Barack Insane* Obama Presidential
Campaign Against Republican Nominee John "Smiley" McCain
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e41d68dd897c0199

READ - (OT) : Winning the US Presidency in 2008 :
The Democrat Party -versus- The "Clintonistas"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/619f20b835a0a356
The Future of a strong healthy Democrat Party 'depends'
on Barack [X] Obama allowing the Party to be a Political
Party : The Clinton's Once Again will subjugate the Interests
of the Democrat Party for their own Personal Needs and Gain.

it's about politics ~ RHF
.

RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 7:05:25 AM3/21/08
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On Mar 20, 9:05 pm, "sdgreen" <sd.gr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote in message

>
> news:2c4b4751-117d-4180...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 20, 5:31 pm, moh...@mailpanda.com wrote:
>
> > Considering it is virtually impossible for Hillary Clinton to win the
> > delegate count, or even the popular vote, do you think she will be
> > able to steal the nomination from Senator Obama via the unelected
> > "super delegates" (properly they should be called party insiders or
> > the establishment ruling elite)?
>
> > The crazed look of desperation in her eyes is becoming more evident
> > every passing day. And that makes me worry about Sen. Obama's
> > safety.
>
> Mohawk,
>
> The Democrat National {Central} Committee of the USA
> lead by "Screaming" Howard Dean will allow the States
> of Florida and Michigan to Vote/Re-Vote.http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/20/ambitious-re-vote-plans-for-m...

>
> The Super Deligates will be "Forced" to Vote for Hillary
> OR ELSE .
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (20%)
> of African-Americans will stay home and NOT Vote.
>
> For the 1st time in modern history large numbers (15%)
> of African-Americans will Vote for the Republican US
> Presidental Candidate.
>
> =IF= The Democrat Party Turns It Back on Barack [X]
> Obama the next generation of African-Americans will
> Turn Their Backs on the Democrat Party in increasingly
> Large Numbers.  Many will be come Independants and
> some will be come Republicans.
>
> For the Democrats it is Barack [X] Obama and a 'chance'
> at Winning -or- Hillary R. Clinton an a Loss in 2008 and
> many Elections to come.
>
> I am betting that common sense will prevail and Barack
> [X] Obama will be the Democrat US Presidential Candidate.
>
> the democrats have no other 'choice' ~ RHF
>
> ---------------------
>
- .... or otherwise the Republicans will
- most certainly win under McCain.
- .

(OT) : 2008 Election Politics - John "Smiley" McCain
http://www.northwestern.edu/shared/cms/images/newscenter/2005/02/mccain_story.jpg

Making Republican US Presidental Candidate
John Sidney McCain III "LIKE-ABLE"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
http://www.willisms.com/archives/azsenjohnmccain.gif

WHY "LIKE-ABLE" :

# 1 - People Have Got To "LIKE" John "Smiley" McCain
To Vote for Him.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41689000/jpg/_41689390_203mccain_ap.jpg

NOTE - John "Smiley" McCain at Age 71 Years
is the Oldest of the Presidential Candidates.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/

# 2 - So People Have Got To Perceive John "Smiley" McCain
as "ABLE" at His Age to Be President.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ap_mccain_nra_070921_ms.jpg

RHF Asks : I Am I Crazy . . . Remember "I Like IKE !"
http://ejw.i8.com/ike/ike.html
http://www.sheetmusiccenter.com/70/221.jpg
http://www.beyondbooks.com/ush12/images/00012268.jpg

Hence the Republicans need to start referring to
John McCain as John "Smiley" McCain
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/McCainBLOG.jpg

Hence the John McCain has to Start off every Stump Speech
with : Hello I am John McCain and I am Running for President
and then Flash a Big "SMILE" 180/360 Around the Crowd
http://blogs.chron.com/beltwayconfidential/apmccainsmiling.jpg
for 8~12 Seconds [Being LIKEed]
-and- Wave a Hand-in-Hello 'looking'
both Healthy and Energetic = ABLE
http://blogs.thestate.com/bradwarthensblog/images/mccain.jpg

Every Photo between now and the Election has to show
John "Smiley" McCain Smiling ! and Being Like-Able :o)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/bmars90/volunteer.jpg


mccain has to match obama's "like-able" image ~ RHF
and not look like another hillary in a man's suit.
.

dave

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:04:38 AM3/21/08
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Rev. Wright speaks the truth. Or at least close enough for a preacher.
John Hagee says the Catholic church is the Great Whore. He blames
Americans for both 9-11 and Hurricane Katrina. John McCain claims him
as a spiritual advisor.

Personally, I like the idea of an angry black man running the USA.
Think John Shaft with nukes.

dave

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:09:38 AM3/21/08
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Don't look now Sparky, but ALL TV NEWS SUCKS!

dave

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:16:32 AM3/21/08
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sdgreen wrote:
>
>
> Yes but the entire US media, print or TV to radio news is completely
> messed up. One cannot really rely on what they say. Even the weather
> reports are suspect. ... then you have the ranting religious nutbats
> attempting to make some strange point that has nothing to do with reality.
>
> What ever happend to the professional reporting of the Walter Cronkites
> etc.?
>
> ==

Step 1 is to only get real time news from the BBC, DW, RNI Kol Israel,
VOA or any other major non-com radio service. They are more careful
about reporting rumors and hearsay.

Step 2 is to watch the news only on You Tube, via your favorite trusted
blog. I suggest most of you use www.mediamatters.org as a default, just
so you can see how twisted up the mainstream media is.

Step 3 is to listen carefully to those in power and their noise machine.
They often speak the exact opposite of the truth; they accuse the
mainstream of being radicals and claim to represent the people. What hooey.

dave

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Mar 21, 2008, 9:17:19 AM3/21/08
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Bullshit. Hitler outlined it in Mein Kampf.

dave

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You would have preferred a Clinton-esque move like dissing a friend for
political expediency? Until you hear the full context of those snippets
you shouldn't judge. I admire Obama's loyalty. +10 points.

dave

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MNMikew

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:26:32 AM3/21/08
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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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> Considering it is virtually impossible for Hillary Clinton to win the
> delegate count, or even the popular vote, do you think she will be
> able to steal the nomination from Senator Obama via the unelected
> "super delegates" (properly they should be called party insiders or
> the establishment ruling elite)?
>
> The crazed look of desperation in her eyes is becoming more evident
> every passing day. And that makes me worry about Sen. Obama's
> safety.

Obama loses ground everytime he opens his mouth.


MNMikew

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:29:02 AM3/21/08
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"dave" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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More like Gary Coleman with a flyswatter.


MNMikew

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:37:03 AM3/21/08
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<mi...@sushi.com> wrote in message news:15434435-0b1c-421b-acf7->

> Barak had the opportunity to do the right thing. He had the preacher
> and bus in close proximity, but alas, he didn't throw the preacher
> under the bus. Rather, he decided to throw his campaign under the bus.
>
> Obama is toast.

Might have to agree with Wasabi breath. :-) His lead over Billary continues
to shrink and McCain has opened up a 8 pt lead over Obama. This gem should
help him immensely:
"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial
animosity. But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the
street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go
away and it comes out in the wrong way."


MNMikew

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Mar 21, 2008, 10:43:21 AM3/21/08
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<moh...@mailpanda.com> wrote in message
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So you actually think CBS,NBC,ABC,MSMBC,CNN are fair and balanced? Fox is
FAR and AWAY more balanced that the liberal MSM has been in this election.
The fawing they do for Obama is sickening.


Drifter

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Mar 21, 2008, 11:55:37 AM3/21/08
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RHF wrote:
Big Snip.

> Every Photo between now and the Election has to show
> John "Smiley" McCain Smiling ! and Being Like-Able :o)
> http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/bmars90/volunteer.jpg
>
>
> mccain has to match obama's "like-able" image ~ RHF
> and not look like another hillary in a man's suit.
> .

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_hacker_2.htm

Here ya go. read what real heroes and veterans say about
this loser. this was used by the bush crime family, swift-boaters
in 2000. i wouldn't vote for this guy for anything. 100 year war?
just another awol bush type.

Drifter...


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and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
- former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

MNMikew

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"dave" <not...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:13u7d9p...@corp.supernews.com...

www.newsbusters.org

clifto

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:02:05 PM3/21/08
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dxAce wrote:
> Well, he did throw his grandmother under the bus.

That's because she's a typical white person, I suspect.

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

clifto

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:03:22 PM3/21/08
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sdgreen wrote:
> .... or otherwise the Republicans will most certainly win under McCain.

The only real win for Repubs would be to get the nomination away from him
and find someone on the right.

RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:54:19 PM3/21/08
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On Mar 21, 10:02 am, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> dxAce wrote:
> > Well, he did throw his grandmother under the bus.
>
> That's because she's a typical white person, I suspect.
>
> --
- One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005
inches):
-         Three feet
-         Three inches
-         Three eights of an inch

One Metre ~ 39.37 Inches ~ [36" + 3" +0.375"] ~ 39.375"
.

m II

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:57:03 PM3/21/08
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dave wrote:

>> The 'Big Lie' is wrongly attributed to the Nazis. In fact, it was THEY
>> who were claiming that the Communists were perpetrating it.
>>

> Bullshit. Hitler outlined it in Mein Kampf.


=================================
"Sometimes the truth is so precious it must be accompanied by a
bodyguard of lies." ~ Donald Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 25
Sept. 2001 Pentagon Briefing
=================================


"In politics, a lie unanswered becomes truth within 24 hours."
~Willie Brown, California political leader
==================================


A lie told often enough becomes the truth. ---Lenin (1870 - 1924)
===================================


"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over
and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
propaganda." --- George W. Bush, Rochester, N.Y., May 24, 2005
====================================


"An idea or position is repeated in an attempt to elicit an almost
automatic response from the audience or to reinforce an audience's
opinion or attitude. This technique is extremely valid and useful
because the human being is basically a creature of habit and develops
skills and values by repetition (like walking, talking, code of ethics,
etc.). An idea or position may be repeated many times in one message or
in many messages. The intent is the same in both instances, namely, to
elicit an immediate response or to reinforce an opinion or attitude."

--Appendix I: PSYOP Techniques" from Psychological Operations Field
Manual No. 33-1 published by Headquarters, Department of the Army,
Washington DC, 31 August 1979.
============================================

As for the Hitler quote, he is talking about the Communist methods which
he was blaming for the collapse of the previous German State. Get the
book and read the stuff previous to the quote. When he gets quoted,
people mysteriously forget who he is talking about. He also mentions the
media.

=============================================
All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in
itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of
credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily
corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than
consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of
their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small
lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but
would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never
come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not
believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so
infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be
brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will
continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the
grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has
been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this
world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people
know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.

Adolf Hitler,
===============================================


A comprehensive PDF file concerning lying:

http://www.domaindiver.com/FarRight/ebooks/911.the.Big.Lie.Govt.Mass.Murder.Police.State.pdf


mike

RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 1:57:40 PM3/21/08
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Drifter - And Hillary would be Better ? - Not ! ~ RHF
.

Billy Burpelson

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:18:51 PM3/21/08
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RHF wrote:

> Transcript of Obama Speech

> I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of
> every race and every hue, scattered across three continents,

Even Dick ('Shotgun') Cheney... :-)


mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:44:22 PM3/21/08
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When you've been shot down over N. Vietnam and spent a few years as a
POW, then open your fat mouth. Not that I like, or intend to vote for,
McCain. In my view he's got it wrong on most of the policy issues. But
that doesn't detract from his military service, and he compares pretty
favorably with twats like you.

If your IQ were 80 points lower and you had a thick schlong in your
mouth, I'd think you were MNMikew.

dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:44:05 PM3/21/08
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RHF wrote:

Honest? He's a lying Liberal/Democrat.

He's probably related to some dumbass Canucks as well.

The guys an idiot.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 5:49:08 PM3/21/08
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mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

I'd think he was 'Eduardo'....

LMFAO


RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 6:34:58 PM3/21/08
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On Mar 21, 2:18 pm, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
> RHF wrote:
- - Transcript of Obama Speech
- - I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of
- - every race and every hue, scattered across three continents,
-
- Even Dick ('Shotgun') Cheney... :-)

Lynne Cheney -says- 'Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins.'
http://www.mahalo.com/Cheney_Obama_Relation
MSNBC.com: Lynne Cheney: VP, Obama are eighth cousins (October 17,
2007)
BBC News: Cheney, Obama 'distant cousins' (October 17, 2007)
Chicago Sun-Times: Obama Family Tree (September 9, 2007)
.

mumbl...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2008, 7:01:12 PM3/21/08
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On Mar 21, 5:49 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> LMFAO- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Only NAMBLA Guy (aka Eduardo) would have a very small schlong in his
mouth.

Because it would belong to a six year old!

dxAce

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Mar 21, 2008, 7:03:03 PM3/21/08
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mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

LMFAO


RHF

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Mar 21, 2008, 8:39:59 PM3/21/08
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> Because it would belong to a six year old!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Schlong {Long} as opposed to a Schlort {Short},
or a Schledium {Medium/Average}.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schlong
"have a very small 'schlort' in his mouth"


dave

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mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

> When you've been shot down over N. Vietnam and spent a few years as a
> POW, then open your fat mouth. Not that I like, or intend to vote for,
> McCain. In my view he's got it wrong on most of the policy issues. But
> that doesn't detract from his military service, and he compares pretty
> favorably with twats like you.
>
> If your IQ were 80 points lower and you had a thick schlong in your
> mouth, I'd think you were MNMikew.
>

What about when he set fire to the flight deck of the Forestall?

Drifter

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Mar 22, 2008, 10:14:32 AM3/22/08
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mumbl...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> When you've been shot down over N. Vietnam and spent a few years as a
> POW, then open your fat mouth. Not that I like, or intend to vote for,
> McCain. In my view he's got it wrong on most of the policy issues. But
> that doesn't detract from his military service, and he compares pretty
> favorably with twats like you.
>
> If your IQ were 80 points lower and you had a thick schlong in your
> mouth, I'd think you were MNMikew.
>

And i now know why you mumble. considering you know less about
about me than you know about Mac. the teen type remarks do
you well. and, so, while i was doing 31 months in country, you
were doing what?

Burr

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Mar 22, 2008, 10:20:37 AM3/22/08
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"Drifter" <>>

> And i now know why you mumble. considering you know less about
> about me than you know about Mac. the teen type remarks do
> you well. and, so, while i was doing 31 months in country, you
> were doing what?
>
> Drifter...

How did you end up with 31 months?

Burr


dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:24:07 PM3/22/08
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Burr wrote:

Volunteer

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Drifter

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:34:33 PM3/22/08
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With Steve being a real Vet, he knows what goes. back then we
called it an extension. my total team of 16 went the distance.
at the end, there were 6 of us that made it home to the USA. i
just helped lay to rest the 5th member of the team last July.
so, that makes me the last man. sad time in my life. God Bless
them all.

dxAce

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:43:37 PM3/22/08
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Drifter wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > Burr wrote:
> >
> >> "Drifter" <>>
> >>> And i now know why you mumble. considering you know less about
> >>> about me than you know about Mac. the teen type remarks do
> >>> you well. and, so, while i was doing 31 months in country, you
> >>> were doing what?
> >>>
> >>> Drifter...
> >> How did you end up with 31 months?
> >
> > Volunteer
> >
> > dxAce
> > Michigan
> > USA
> >
> >
> With Steve being a real Vet, he knows what goes. back then we
> called it an extension. my total team of 16 went the distance.
> at the end, there were 6 of us that made it home to the USA. i
> just helped lay to rest the 5th member of the team last July.
> so, that makes me the last man. sad time in my life. God Bless
> them all.

Indeed. Thank you, and them, for their service to our great country. They, and
you, will not be forgotten.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Shanti Om

Drifter

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Mar 22, 2008, 12:44:02 PM3/22/08
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For the loud mouth mumbler, who know less than most here, Mac dumped
5 jets. 1 on the Forestall. and 1 into a low wire when he was showing
off for some friends. if you knew what you were talking about, Mac spent
less than 10 hours in combat. he got busted up when he landed in that
lake in N.VN. and, the NVA said he was at the Hilton 2 days, before
being moved to his own hooch with a girlfriend/ so called nurse.
good to be a Navy Brat. meanwhile, guys like Steve were doing their duty
in the Navy. and mumbler, where and when did you serve?

clifto

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Mar 22, 2008, 1:39:34 PM3/22/08
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dave wrote:
> What about when he set fire to the flight deck of the Forestall?

Knowing what actually caused the fire on the Forrestal (illiterate spelling
corrected), I'm dying to hear this liberal lie.

--

One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):

Three feet
Three inches

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