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walt.n...@gmail.com

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Jun 11, 2007, 10:36:52 AM6/11/07
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Paul Zak

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Jun 11, 2007, 5:18:04 PM6/11/07
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$700 reserve price, wow!

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pltrgyst

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Jun 11, 2007, 11:33:15 PM6/11/07
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That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

-- Larry

BDK

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Jun 12, 2007, 3:24:31 AM6/12/07
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In article <av4s63996hkg3gqra...@4ax.com>,
pltr...@spamlessxhost.org says...

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

BDK

pltrgyst

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Jun 12, 2007, 9:39:45 AM6/12/07
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:

>In article <av4s63996hkg3gqra...@4ax.com>,
>pltr...@spamlessxhost.org says...
>> That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.
>>

>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" <idontg...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> >$700 reserve price, wow!
>

>Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
>850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

-- Larry

Roadie

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Jun 12, 2007, 9:50:33 AM6/12/07
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On Jun 11, 10:36 am, "walt.novin...@gmail.com"

It's pretty pricey considering the Kenwood options it doesn't have.

BDK

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Jun 12, 2007, 5:14:57 PM6/12/07
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In article <mc8t63hkvr47fnmc1...@4ax.com>,
pltr...@spamlessxhost.org says...

> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <av4s63996hkg3gqra...@4ax.com>,
> >pltr...@spamlessxhost.org says...
> >> That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" <idontg...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >$700 reserve price, wow!
> >
> >Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
> >850sat recently.
>
> First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
> don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.

>
> Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
> (or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?

>
> Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
> different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

BDK

>
> -- Larry
>

pltrgyst

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Jun 12, 2007, 6:01:35 PM6/12/07
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:14:57 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:

>> First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
>> don't bid on it.
>
>LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
>maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.

I have no idea who the seller is. I'm just sick of all the price cops who go
hand-in-hand with all the USEnet cops. What someone asks for an item is nobody's
business but his own. If it's too high, it won't sell. Period.

>Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
>that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
>watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

Possibly not to someone who wants only a receiver.

>I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
>for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
>power.

That might be true -- but so what? Is it your mission to save the suckers of the
world?

If so, why not start right here in Washington DC? I can introduce you to
thousands of them...

-- Larry

BDK

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Jun 12, 2007, 6:10:52 PM6/12/07
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In article <jn5u631k8qjshedpp...@4ax.com>,
pltr...@spamlessxhost.org says...

> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:14:57 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:
>
> >> First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
> >> don't bid on it.
> >
> >LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
> >maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.
>
> I have no idea who the seller is. I'm just sick of all the price cops who go
> hand-in-hand with all the USEnet cops. What someone asks for an item is nobody's
> business but his own. If it's too high, it won't sell. Period.

Aww, isn't that too bad. I guess I should be slapped for commenting..

>
> >Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
> >that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
> >watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.
>
> Possibly not to someone who wants only a receiver.

Well, that might be true, but it seems a pretty weak argument.

>
> >I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
> >for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
> >power.
>
> That might be true -- but so what? Is it your mission to save the suckers of the
> world?

What is wrong with you? I just made a comment on the price. Sheesh, I
think someone needs a nap.

>
> If so, why not start right here in Washington DC? I can introduce you to
> thousands of them...

I'm sure you can.

BDK

>
> -- Larry
>

dxAce

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Jun 12, 2007, 6:12:22 PM6/12/07
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BDK wrote:

I'm not so sure about the 'very hot' part. I've had one, didn't run hot, nor does the
Drake R8 series which some think run to hot...

...and now, back Michael Savage.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


BDK

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Jun 13, 2007, 1:00:46 AM6/13/07
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In article <466F1A46...@milestones.com>, dx...@milestones.com
says...

I guess the mods to move the regulators to the outside were just for
grins, right? I had two of them, and they ran way too hot on AC power
for my tastes. Those regulators were super hot. If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

Michael Savage? Holy shit!

BDK

dxAce

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Jun 13, 2007, 2:41:25 AM6/13/07
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BDK wrote:

You are a wimp!


> Those regulators were super hot.

You're a pussy!

> If you would have taken
> the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
> failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.
>
> Michael Savage? Holy shit!

Good luck in your DX conqests... try to keep up!

RHF

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Jun 13, 2007, 4:42:41 AM6/13/07
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On Jun 11, 8:33 pm, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
-
- That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.
-
- -- Larry
-

>
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" <idontgotn...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >$700 reserve price, wow!
>
> ><walt.novin...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:1181572612.6...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >> Please see auction at:
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190121982731.
>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Walt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Larry,

That is correct the $700 is the Buy-It-Now Price.

Figure a 70% to 85% Reserve Price based on the
$700 Buy-It-Now Price : The Reserve would be in
the range of $490 to $595.

Seems to be Two (2) "Interested" Bidders so far.

imho - at this price-point there are several other
swl receivers that are worth considering ~ RHF
.
.
. .

BDK

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Jun 13, 2007, 5:14:03 AM6/13/07
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In article <466F9195...@milestones.com>, dx...@milestones.com

I love you too..

>
>
> > Those regulators were super hot.
>
> You're a pussy!

You're apparently mental. Explains the Savage thing.

>
> > If you would have taken
> > the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
> > failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.
> >
> > Michael Savage? Holy shit!
>
> Good luck in your DX conqests... try to keep up!
>
>

That's ok, you can do all the DX'ing I couldn't care less about.
Have fun playing with your QSLs.

And listening to Weiner too.

BDK

BDK

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Jun 13, 2007, 5:20:54 AM6/13/07
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In article <1181724161.7...@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, rhf-
newsg...@pacbell.net says...

The absolute most I personally would go would be about $500. No way even
$600. My luck would be it would work ok, except the keypad would start
the keybounce thing.

There are R71A's, NRD525's, etc out there for a lot less. I would take a
525 over a 5000, anytime. For $700, you're close to NRD535 territory.

BDK

BDK

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Jun 13, 2007, 5:16:28 PM6/13/07
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In article <MPG.20d980fe6...@news.buckeye-express.com>,
B...@shillsrus.com says...

LOL! Someone used the buy it now! Amazing.

BDK

Roadie

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Jun 13, 2007, 5:43:13 PM6/13/07
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On Jun 13, 1:00 am, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:
> In article <466F1A46.3DCC6...@milestones.com>, d...@milestones.com
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > BDK wrote:
>
> > > In article <mc8t63hkvr47fnmc1sk8s0hqt2o7fd0...@4ax.com>,
> > > pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org says...

> > > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >In article <av4s63996hkg3gqraltb7a6brmr35qc...@4ax.com>,
> > > > >pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org says...

> > > > >> That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.
>

Super hot?????????? Not hardly.


> If you would have taken
> the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
> failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.


pltrgyst

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Jun 13, 2007, 6:05:24 PM6/13/07
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:16:28 -0400, BDK <B...@shillsrus.com> wrote:

>LOL! Someone used the buy it now! Amazing.

...and same buyer bought another one for AU 796 in April.

-- Larry

RHF

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Jun 13, 2007, 10:31:51 PM6/13/07
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Then I guess my two Kenwood R-5000 Receivers
plus the Kenwood YK88-A1 AM Filters with the
Original Boxes and Manuals are still holding their
Value :o) ~ RHF
.
.
. .

RHF

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Jun 13, 2007, 10:42:56 PM6/13/07
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QUESTION - Are you 'interested' in the Kenwood R-5000
(R5000) Communications Receiver ?
? Want-to-know-more-about-the-Kewnwood-R-5000 ?
KENWOOD => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.
Then you are "Invited to Join" the Kenwood R-5000 (R5000)
Communications Receiver Group on YAHOO !
R-5000 => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.
NOTE - Many consider the Kenwood R-5000 (R5000)
Communications Receiver to be 'the last' and 'the best'
Full Coverage Receiver made by Kenwood. {I Agree :o}
R5000 => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.
this is rhf - some would if they could . . .
while i simply kenwood . ~ RHF
.
.
. .


JeroenK

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Jun 14, 2007, 3:01:43 AM6/14/07
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Roadie wrote:

>> If you would have taken
>> the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
>> failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.
>
> I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
> would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
> heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
> read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
> receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.


Dont know either, but I know mine ran HOT. And just for the lost energy
alone it was enough for me to decide and buy an external 13,8v supply.
Now I can safely put something on top of the rx again (like a logbook or
guide) without having to worry about all that heat...

--
JeroenK

JeroenK

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Jun 14, 2007, 3:03:00 AM6/14/07
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If anyone has one of those inrad (or original kenwood) AM filters for
sale for the r5000 I'm still looking for one...

--
JeroenK

Roadie

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Jun 14, 2007, 7:56:12 AM6/14/07
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And I've owned stereos that put out some heat but ran for years. The
real question is whether Kenwood engineers considered the heat in the
radio design. Given the radio's excellent design, high performance
and record of reliability I suspect they did. The radio was well
vented so the heat was dissipated.

RHF

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Jun 14, 2007, 12:58:57 PM6/14/07
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> vented so the heat was dissipated.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Roadie,

Some peope who own the Kenwood R-5000 Receiver
have reported 'internal' Component Failures that they
reasonably believed were caused by the Receiver
Running HOT ! - - - IIRC usually these Failures were
"Fails to Power-On" and 'The Fix' was the replacement
of Components in the 'built-in' AC-to-DC Power Supply.

But - The vast majority of Kenwood R-5000 Receiver
Owners/Users have had many years of Trouble-Free
Operation of the Receiver all the time while the Receiver
was Running HOT ! - By Design -is- not necessarily a
design flaw.

Roadie

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Jun 14, 2007, 1:28:54 PM6/14/07
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> . .- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Already a member, thanks. It's one of the more informative Yahoo
groups. I've tried unsuccessfully several times to join the 2100/2200
group. Each time it gets into an endless loop of asking me to verfy
the email address. Any ideas?


RHF

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Jun 14, 2007, 2:33:39 PM6/14/07
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> the email address. Any ideas?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Roadie - 2100/2200 group ?
What is the Manufactures Name and Model ? ~ RHF
.
.
. .

RHF

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Jun 14, 2007, 3:31:18 PM6/14/07
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> . .- Hide quoted text -

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* * * Corrected Message Re-Post * * *

Roadie,

The Kenwood R-5000 Receiver - Running Hot - By Design
-and- Not Necessarily A Design Flaw !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2157

AGAIN READ - Kenwood R-5000 Receiver - Running Hot
- By Design -and- Not Necessarily A Design Flaw !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2157
.
.
this is rhf - some would -if- they could . . .


while i simply 'kenwood' . ~ RHF

K
R
5
K
.

RHF

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Jun 14, 2007, 3:39:51 PM6/14/07
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> -and- Not Necessarily A Design Flaw !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2157
> - By Design -and- Not Necessarily A Design Flaw !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2157

> .
> .
> this is rhf - some would -if- they could . . .
> while i simply 'kenwood' . ~ RHF
> K
> R
> 5
> K
> .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For One and All,
.
The # 1 'Most' "Reported Problem" with the
Kenwood R-5000 Receiver and How-To-Fix-It !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2158
.
FWIW - To the best of my knowledge more
Kenwood R-5000 Owner/Users have reported
"Problems" with their Receivers : That are
related to Bad {Intermitant} Contact between
the Circuit Boards and the Receiver's Metal
Frame : Then any other 'problem' of note.
.
The simple Fix is to Loosen the Circuit Board
Mounting Screws and CLEAN the 'contact areas'
between the Metal Frame and the Circuit Boards
with-out Remove the Screws. A little squirt of
Contact Clearner usually does a very good job
of 'cleaning' the surfaces of the Contact Areas.
Give it a Minute or two to Dry -and- then re-set
all the Mounting Screws. Do this One Circuit
Board at-a-time and every thing should be A-OK !
- - - This simple Fix should last for several years
and is all that is necessary to have the Receiver
Running HOT and Trouble Free - just like normal.
.
ALSO READ - Kenwood R-5000 Receiver - Running Hot


- By Design -and- Not Necessarily A Design Flaw !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/2157
.

QUESTION - Are you 'interested' in the Kenwood R-5000
(R5000) Communications Receiver ?
? Want-to-know-more-about-the-Kewnwood-R-5000 ?
KENWOOD => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.
Then you are "Invited to Join" the Kenwood R-5000 (R5000)
Communications Receiver Group on YAHOO !
R-5000 => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.
NOTE - Many consider the Kenwood R-5000 (R5000)
Communications Receiver to be 'the last' and 'the best'
Full Coverage Receiver made by Kenwood. {I Agree :o}
R5000 => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/­kenwood-r5000/
.

BDK

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Jun 14, 2007, 4:16:47 PM6/14/07
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In article <1181770993.1...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
hjs...@cs.com says...

I don't know how many failed, but I've touched those regulators and they
were hot enough to burn my fingers. In my book, that's too hot! You may
disagree, but for me, it was a good reason to run it on 12 volts. Just
like my Icom R7100 another hot runner on AC power, it ran too hot for
it's own good.

BDK

BDK

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Jun 14, 2007, 4:21:37 PM6/14/07
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In article <1181822172....@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
hjs...@cs.com says...

And that excellent design, did it extend to the stock wide AM filter?

LOL.

If the part normally runs so hot it will burn fingers, that's too hot!
And that's with the case off. I've never had a stereo amp or receiver
that ran as hot as both my R5000's did, and I've had a lot of equipment
over the 40+ years since I bought my first stereo receiver in 1966.

BDK

BDK

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Jun 14, 2007, 4:25:28 PM6/14/07
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In article <1181788311.9...@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, rhf-
newsg...@pacbell.net says...

It's like some of the gun auctions, some guns get prices way too high
for a while, then they drop down to a decent amount, and then rise
again. I lucked out and got 3 of the last ones I bought on the "low
side". One of them, in the same condition mine is just sold for over
$125 higher. Makes me happy to see that, unless I'm bidding.

BDK

BDK

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Jun 14, 2007, 4:30:00 PM6/14/07
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In article <f4qp7b$mjm$3...@news3.zwoll1.ov.home.nl>, i...@val.id says...

One of my R5000s didn't have the replacement filter when I got it, I
hoped it wouldn't be as bad as I heard it was without it, but I was
wrong, it was horrible. I got the Kenwood one, YK88 (I think) for $75 at
a local hamfest from some old guy. The box looked horrible, and he was
kind of one of those guys who always has a ton of HF rigs for high
prices, but I went for it anyway, and it worked perfectly. I made money
on it when I sold it about a year later.

Maybe Ebay might have one for a sane price..

BDK

dxAce

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Jun 14, 2007, 6:39:04 PM6/14/07
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BDK wrote:

Sure, it did. It's just that out X number of receivers sold it may not be worth
the cost of installing the 'better' filter from the get go.

Those who are a bit more of an aficionado will spend the extra money, most
won't.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B

>

Roadie

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Redsun

RHF

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Jun 14, 2007, 8:32:54 PM6/14/07
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- - Roadie - 2100/2200 group ?
- - What is the Manufactures Name and Model ? ~ RHF
-
- Redsun
-

Roadie,

You mean the Redsun RP2100 / RP2000 Radio Group at YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

The Only Restriction for the Redsun RP2100 / RP2000
Radio Group at YAHOO ! -is- That a New Members first few
Messages may be Moderated.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

Membership is Open To All - Who Wish To :
* Read The Currect Messages
* Read The Archive of Messages
* Post a Message and reply to a Message
NOTE - This Is Not A Public Group {eMail List}
Membership Is Required To Do The Above.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

all things in moderation ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Roadie

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Jun 15, 2007, 10:15:29 AM6/15/07
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> You mean the Redsun RP2100 / RP2000 Radio Group at YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

>
> The Only Restriction for the Redsun RP2100 / RP2000
> Radio Group at YAHOO ! -is- That a New Members first few
> Messages may be Moderated.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

>
> Membership is Open To All - Who Wish To :
> * Read The Currect Messages
> * Read The Archive of Messages
> * Post a Message and reply to a Message
> NOTE - This Is Not A Public Group {eMail List}
> Membership Is Required To Do The Above.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/redsun-rp2100-rp2000-radio/

>
> all things in moderation ~ RHF
> .
> .
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> - Show quoted text -

I'll give it another try.

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