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dxAce

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Feb 13, 2008, 3:06:34 PM2/13/08
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The Shadow

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:18:06 PM2/13/08
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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0277.html
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA

Thanks Ace for the FYI

Yikes $6299.95
Guess I'll double up on Lotto tickets

Of interest it is touted as the ultimate contest transceiver and appears to
have real knobs for controls instead of menus.

Maybe mfg's do listen to user comments.
Lamont saving pennies (:-)

pli...@telkomsa.net

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Feb 13, 2008, 8:15:50 PM2/13/08
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On Feb 13, 10:06 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0277.html
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA

Are you thinking of getting one Ace? If you watch the 15 minute video
you will see it has awesome receive capabilities. Certainly a very
nice radio to own.

I posted that I had ordered one, but now I may have to cancel, as the
original estimate has now shot up 40% making it very expensive........
My currency, the Rand, has dropped like a stone against the Japanese
Yen, the Icom dealer forgot to add VAT tax to my quote and Icom seems
to have upped the pre-estimate price as well = disappointment!

Video (worth watching)
http://www.icom.co.jp/world/topics/ic-7700movie/index.html

John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
Drake SW8 & ERGO software
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A.
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

dxAce

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Feb 13, 2008, 8:24:19 PM2/13/08
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pli...@telkomsa.net wrote:

> Are you thinking of getting one Ace?

No.

> If you watch the 15 minute video
> you will see it has awesome receive capabilities. Certainly a very
> nice radio to own.
>
> I posted that I had ordered one, but now I may have to cancel, as the
> original estimate has now shot up 40% making it very expensive........
> My currency, the Rand, has dropped like a stone against the Japanese
> Yen, the Icom dealer forgot to add VAT tax to my quote and Icom seems
> to have upped the pre-estimate price as well = disappointment!
>
> Video (worth watching)
> http://www.icom.co.jp/world/topics/ic-7700movie/index.html

I posted the price in response to your original postings. I think you were close
as I recall to the price in the USA

dxAce

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Feb 13, 2008, 8:42:23 PM2/13/08
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pli...@telkomsa.net wrote:

> On Feb 13, 10:06 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0277.html
> >
> > dxAce
> > Michigan
> > USA
>
> Are you thinking of getting one Ace? If you watch the 15 minute video
> you will see it has awesome receive capabilities. Certainly a very
> nice radio to own.
>
> I posted that I had ordered one, but now I may have to cancel, as the
> original estimate has now shot up 40% making it very expensive........

What is your price now?

I, for one, was disappointed in the price of the KWZ 50. Had it been around
$2000 or so I might have sprung for one.


pli...@telkomsa.net

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Feb 13, 2008, 11:23:09 PM2/13/08
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I don't know the price as the dealer is being evasive - says he will
give me a firm price for the shipment arriving next week. I suspect
it's way above his original estimate.

Will let you know when I get a firm price.

Rather than the KWZ-50 I think you would be better off with an Icom
756PROIII
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/3756.html

John Plimmer, Montagu, South Africa

dxAce

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Feb 14, 2008, 8:32:34 AM2/14/08
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pli...@telkomsa.net wrote:

> I don't know the price as the dealer is being evasive - says he will
> give me a firm price for the shipment arriving next week. I suspect
> it's way above his original estimate.
>
> Will let you know when I get a firm price.
>
> Rather than the KWZ-50 I think you would be better off with an Icom
> 756PROIII
> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/3756.html

Nah, I'm pretty much set with what I have here. If I were to buy a transceiver
I'd probably just go with the 718, if only to do some CW from time to time.

I have no great interest in amateur radio, though I do keep my license current,
but prefer to concentrate on SWBC.


Bob Miller

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Feb 14, 2008, 12:17:10 PM2/14/08
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:42:23 -0500, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com>
wrote:

For a coupla grand, check the new Elecraft K3 with all its roofing
filters -- even has sync tuning for AM...

Bob
k5qwg

David

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Feb 15, 2008, 8:39:35 AM2/15/08
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You'd have to be nuts. SDR is right around the corner and that runs
circles around hardware based receivers.

RHF

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:02:18 AM2/15/08
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On Feb 15, 5:39 am, David <noth...@nowhere.org> wrote:
> Bob Miller wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:42:23 -0500, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> plim...@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
> >>> On Feb 13, 10:06 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >>>>http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0277.html
>
> >>>> dxAce
> >>>> Michigan
> >>>> USA
> >>> Are you thinking of getting one Ace? If you watch the 15 minute video
> >>> you will see it has awesome receive capabilities. Certainly a very
> >>> nice radio to own.
>
> >>> I posted that I had ordered one, but now I may have to cancel, as the
> >>> original estimate has now shot up 40% making it very expensive........
> >> What is your price now?
>
> >> I, for one, was disappointed in the price of the KWZ 50. Had it been around
> >> $2000 or so I might have sprung for one.
>
> > For a coupla grand, check the new Elecraft K3 with all its roofing
> > filters -- even has sync tuning for AM...
>
> > Bob
> > k5qwg
>
> You'd have to be nuts.  SDR is right around the corner and that runs
> circles around hardware based receivers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

David - The SDR 'corner' has been turned for several years. ~ RHF
.
CAUTION : This Post Has Not Been "Approved"
-by- Telamon. - http://tinyurl.com/yshplv
-ps- So Read It Only -If- You Are "Clueless".
.

pli...@telkomsa.net

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Feb 15, 2008, 12:56:59 PM2/15/08
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You are nuts - SDR has already been around a long time and second
generation SDR's are now in widescale use. A lot of my MW DX contacts
are using the SDR-IQ and many are moving to the new Italian Perseus.

As for SDR's running circles around hardware based receivers, all the
fella's I know who have SDR's retain their normal hardware radio's and
use them.

And as for the magnificent Icom IC-7700, it incorporates the best
elements of SDR radio's plus the very best of the conventional radio's
for inveterate knob twiddlers like me who don't like SDR's.

Maybe RHF would like to publish a few web leads to the SDR radio's now
widely in use.

John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
Drake SW8 & ERGO software
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A.
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whip
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

> circles around hardware based receivers.-

Bob Miller

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Feb 15, 2008, 4:50:28 PM2/15/08
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Most of the current "hardware" based amateur rigs are mainly software,
anyway, with a just a few knobs here and there. My Icom 7000 is such
a critter. The Elecraft I mentioned is quite digital. If, by SDR, you
mean black boxes, they keep flopping. Knobs and meters have their
allure...

bob
k5qwg

David Eduardo

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:23:41 PM2/15/08
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"Bob Miller" <NOS...@neosoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most of the current "hardware" based amateur rigs are mainly software,
> anyway, with a just a few knobs here and there. My Icom 7000 is such
> a critter. The Elecraft I mentioned is quite digital. If, by SDR, you
> mean black boxes, they keep flopping. Knobs and meters have their
> allure...
>

Have you used the Elcraft? I am quite impressed with the specs of the K3,
but would like to hear from someone who has used it primarily as a receiver
before getting one.


dxAce

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:42:03 PM2/15/08
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David Eduardo wrote:

Crap, someone needs to contact Elecraft! After all, you've actually LIED about
having an amateur license in the past. FACT!


RHF

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:55:30 PM2/15/08
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On Feb 15, 1:50 pm, Bob Miller <NOS...@neosoft.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:39:35 -0800, David <noth...@nowhere.org> wrote:
> >Bob Miller wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:42:23 -0500, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> plim...@telkomsa.net wrote:
>
> >>>> On Feb 13, 10:06 pm, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
> >>>>>http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/0277.html
>
> >>>>> dxAce
> >>>>> Michigan
> >>>>> USA
> >>>> Are you thinking of getting one Ace? If you watch the 15 minute video
> >>>> you will see it has awesome receive capabilities. Certainly a very
> >>>> nice radio to own.
>
> >>>> I posted that I had ordered one, but now I may have to cancel, as the
> >>>> original estimate has now shot up 40% making it very expensive........
> >>> What is your price now?
>
> >>> I, for one, was disappointed in the price of the KWZ 50. Had it been around
> >>> $2000 or so I might have sprung for one.
>
> >> For a coupla grand, check the new Elecraft K3 with all its roofing
> >> filters -- even has sync tuning for AM...
>
> >> Bob
> >> k5qwg
>
> >You'd have to be nuts.  SDR is right around the corner and that runs
> >circles around hardware based receivers.
-
- Most of the current "hardware" based amateur rigs are
- mainly software, anyway, with a just a  few knobs here
- and there. My Icom 7000 is such a critter.
- The Elecraft I mentioned is quite digital. If, by SDR, you
- mean black boxes, they keep flopping. Knobs and meters
- have their allure...
-
- bob
- k5qwg
-

Bob [K5QWG],

Knobs+Buttons+Switches+Dials+Meters = TRADITION $ELL$ !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

yes - i still have a calculator next to the computer :o) ~ RHF

Bob Miller

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:07:12 PM2/15/08
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I have not. But Elecraft gets good reviews in QST and such. They
haven't reviewed the K3 yet, but previous Elecrafts are rated fairly
highly.

There are K3 reviews at eHam.net from actual users --

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6673

Bob
k5qwg


Bob Miller

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:09:42 PM2/15/08
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And I still have my Tandy Model 100 in the next room. The Commodore 64
got away...

bob
k5qwg

bm

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:20:45 PM2/15/08
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On 15 Feb, 18:56, plim...@telkomsa.net wrote:
> You are nuts - SDR has already been around a long time and second
> generation SDR's are now in widescale use. A lot of my MW DX contacts
> are using the SDR-IQ and many are moving to the new Italian Perseus.
>
> As for SDR's running circles around hardware based receivers, all the
> fella's I know who have SDR's retain their normal hardware radio's and
> use them.
>
> And as for the magnificent Icom IC-7700, it incorporates the best
> elements of SDR radio's plus the very best of the conventional radio's
> for inveterate knob twiddlers like me who don't like SDR's.
>
> Maybe RHF would like to publish a few web leads to the SDR radio's now
> widely in use.
>
> John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
> South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
> RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
> Drake SW8 & ERGO software
> Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
> BW XCR 30, Sangean 803A.
> Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
> Kiwa MW Loop, PAORDT Roelof mini-whiphttp://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

>
> On Feb 15, 3:39 pm, David <noth...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>
> > Bob Miller wrote:
> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:42:23 -0500, dxAce <dx...@milestones.com>
> > > wrote:
> > You'd have to be nuts. SDR is right around the corner and that runs
> > circles around hardware based receivers.-

SDRs are not running circles around hardware based receivers, at least
not yet, but their ability to record a large frequency spectrum to
hard drive for later analysis (up to 800 kHz with the Perseus) and
their price tags ($500-1000) make them exceptionally capable tools for
the demanding DX-er. My personal experience is that an excellent
"hardware" receiver will still be more sensitive, have better AGC and
better audio and should in some cases be able to resolve a difficult
station on that lone frequency. It all comes down to how one prefers
to listen. I have three SDRs and I've never looked back. But I'll
never part with my Icoms either.

BM

dxAce

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:40:17 PM2/15/08
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dxAce wrote:

True, ain't it, little faux Hispanic BOY... (Heavy emphasis on the BOY!)

As far as I know, ain't a single CALLBOOK that shows you having an amateur
license.

LMFAO at the pathological liar!


RHF

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:31:17 PM2/15/08
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> >-by- Telamon. -http://tinyurl.com/yshplv

> >-ps- So Read It Only -If- You Are "Clueless".
> > .
>
- And I still have my Tandy Model 100 in the next room.
- The Commodore 64 got away...

-
- bob
- k5qwg
-

Bob [K5QWG],

Dang - = I F = - I had half the "STUFF"

That I Bought Try and Loved For a New York Minute . . .

i could open a museum ;-{{{ and be rich on eBay :o))) ~ RHF

dave

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Feb 15, 2008, 11:55:18 PM2/15/08
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The power drain is obscene.

dave

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Feb 15, 2008, 11:57:46 PM2/15/08
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Politics

Every revolution has its political issues. Free software for building
radios is troublesome to some people. In the US, we've run into
opposition from the Motion Picture Association of America and its
attempt with the Broadcast Flag to restrict the kinds of receivers that
can be built for over-the-air digital TV.

The US Federal Communications Commission has issued a Notice of Proposed
Rule Making (NPRM) concerning Cognitive Radio Technologies and Software
Defined Radios. Several troublesome issues are raised in the NPRM,
including restricting the sale of high-speed digital-to-analog
converters, requirements for digital signatures or similar methods to
keep unauthorized software out of software radio hardware and new
restrictions on radios built for the amateur radio market.

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/doc/exploring-gnuradio.html#block-diagram-fig

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