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Burr

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Dec 11, 2008, 8:59:43 PM12/11/08
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Mike, lets call a spade a spade.

Many parents just like me sat at the dinning room table trying to figure out
how to pay to send their children to collage. I had six wonderful children 3
boys, 3 girls and I was single parent. Somehow got them educated.

Think of the parents who sent their children to the collage you were
teaching in and then found out you were holding POT parties and more then
likely Sex along with it with these children.

YOU broke the trust as/of a teacher and you can never be forgiven for that.
You took children that were trusted in your care by parents who may have
spent the last dollar they had saved to send there children to collage so
they could have a better life then the parents had. This is the trust you
broke.

You cussed me out a few years ago for saying something bad about you then
Steve hung your ass and you started laying low. I found you on another group
and I emailed you and asking if it was you. You begged me not to tell anyone
where you were, that you needed this job so bad. I keep my mouth shut and
watched. I dropped you a note from time to time and always said something
nice, why say something bad. When you started this latest line of BS I sent
you a note and said watch it, I didn't think you wanted to get this entire
BS going.

The way I figure it is, you have retired on a medical with your diabetes or
you have lost your job and just don't give a shit. You said that I was
referring to you when I said "POS", if the shoe fits then wear it.

Now, you keep your mouth off me and I'll keep my mouth off you.

Please excuse my poor English, I'm a stupid parent that spent their money to
educate their children so a f-ked up POS like you could try to corrupt them
as their "teacher"

I hope you understand what I think of you and I think there is a few others
here feel the same way!

Burr


Mike

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Dec 11, 2008, 9:07:28 PM12/11/08
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Burr,

How can you just lie like that? You know you're lying and you do it to
promote the "game" you and Steve choose to play. You are pathetic and
I've blocked you from my email. Keep your medical and weather reports
to yourself. I once thought that down deep inside you might be a
pretty OK guy. I know I was wrong now. America's better off if you
just stay in the Philippines. Go lift your weights, old man.

Please leave me alone and I won't bother you ever again. I don't need
to talk to people like you.

Even if you do respond, I won't. Your truly not worth wasting any time
with.

Adios!

UncleFester

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Dec 11, 2008, 10:10:31 PM12/11/08
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>"Please leave me alone and I won't bother you ever again. I don't need to
>talk to people like you."
I'll just bet you don't. It appears you are deeper in your own waste than I
thought. Things coming back to haunt you?

>You begged me not to tell anyone where you were, that you needed this job
>so bad.
My goodness what have we here?
Anyone know where the school is that he was teaching at when these alleged
events took place? Or even references to same. Newpaper articles,
anything.
Some aren't qualified to teach a dog to sit.
You didn't block me, "Mickey". I'm still waiting to hear from AOL
regarding the abuse complaint you supposedly filed against me for informing
you not to email me anymore and to quit with the BS in the newgroups with
regards to "UncleFester".
Just couldn't leave things alone, now look. Sounds like you've got enough
skeletons in your closet to fill a small graveyard.
I heard of an ex teacher from this area who got caught breaking the schools
trust with a small boy. He was clever enough to talk his way out of any
discipline.
But being what he was, he couldn't leave well enough alone and repeated the
first crime. They obtained a guilty verdict this time. He lost everything.
To this day, around this time of year, like clockwork, the sob gets beat up
so bad it takes weeks just for the swelling to go down in his face. Even
his legs aren't as straight as they used to be. Nobody knows who does it
or at least they're not telling if they do. We see him downtown panhandling
just to survive.
'Just a few ramblings of retribution"
"Steve hung your ass and you started laying low". Stir up any memories
Mike?

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Telamon

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Dec 11, 2008, 10:15:27 PM12/11/08
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In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzU...@iwvisp.com>,
"Burr" <pit...@iwvisp.com> wrote:

> Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>

Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.

Get lost.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Mike

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Dec 11, 2008, 10:22:18 PM12/11/08
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Fester/Burr/Hangster/Hangman,

Knock it off. There are new internet harassment laws on the books for
people committed to slandering people over the internet. I am not gay,
I have not committed sex crimes and you really should stop. If you run
a google search you'll see that people have posted news articles
saying that I raped my daughter, gave my brother AIDS, committed drug
felonies, etc. It's not true. It shows you how far some people will go
when someone stands up for themselves.

Now go to bed or listen to shortwave. You never did tell us which
radio you use. What do you like to listen to? Can you make one single
comment about shortwave radio? Or are you here just to keep stirring
the excrement for your own amusement? Is that Phillipino heat that
annoying?

garya...@aol.com

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Dec 12, 2008, 12:42:55 PM12/12/08
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Mike,

Don't let these people bother you. Just ignor them. There are many
of us who have appreciated your OT comments on this group.

Failing parents always want to blame the teachers. The real problem,
as I am sure you know, starts at home. Children are a reflection of
their parents, not their teachers. I feel sorry for the children of
some of the people who post on this group.

Mike

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Dec 12, 2008, 1:00:51 PM12/12/08
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Thank you for your advice, Gary. The students I teach generally are
not problems. Most of them are kids (well actually, about 20% are
adults returning for tech training) scraping together every penny they
can to attend a very expensive private technical career college. 85%
of them land tech jobs within six months of graduating. Almost 90% of
our students already hold a full-time job while attending college. We
don't emphasize classes in social sciences, physical education or
ROTC. We just teach hands-on work skills and how to land their dream
jobs. I'm proud to be associated with them.

Mike

dxAce

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Dec 12, 2008, 2:43:15 PM12/12/08
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Mike wrote:

And I'm real sure that they are proud to associate with an individual who felt
compelled to claim that he had a PhD.


dxAce

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Dec 12, 2008, 3:03:48 PM12/12/08
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Mike wrote:

> Fester/Burr/Hangster/Hangman,
>
> Knock it off. There are new internet harassment laws on the books for
> people committed to slandering people over the internet. I am not gay,
> I have not committed sex crimes and you really should stop. If you run
> a google search you'll see that people have posted news articles
> saying that I raped my daughter, gave my brother AIDS, committed drug
> felonies, etc. It's not true. It shows you how far some people will go
> when someone stands up for themselves.

Yes, you certainly stood up for yourself when you claimed to have a PhD.

Bryant, you've got some severe mental problems that you really ought to address.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


bpnjensen

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Dec 12, 2008, 3:19:13 PM12/12/08
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That is absolutely true. So many kids do not go to school ready to
learn that it's a national disgrace. Ignored, TV-babysat, underfed,
poorly clothed, filthy and generally neglected, and there is only just
so much a teacher can do to make up for that. The worst part is, all
too often, the kids grow up and begin to resemble their parents.

Bruce

dxAce

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Dec 12, 2008, 3:24:33 PM12/12/08
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bpnjensen wrote:

Or, they begin to resemble those Liberal/Democrat/Marxist instructors who at
some point in their life felt compelled to lie about their academic credentials.

Do you think that these clowns are able to throw a switch and turn this type of
behaviour on and off?

No, the switch is always on. Lie and fabricate, lie and fabricate...


RHF

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Dec 12, 2008, 5:38:32 PM12/12/08
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(OT) : PONG for MWB : Reflect On Why You Are Here
[Make It Enjoyable For Yourself : A Positive Part of the Day]

MWB,

You have to be here for yourself and to enjoy being here
-or- Find some 'other' place that you can be there for
yourself and enjoy being there.

-but- Posting {originating} all this In-YourFace Political
Off-Topic "STUFF" is not the way to make being here
'enjoyable' -unless- Being Angry All The Time Is Your
Form of Enjoyment.

Yeah - I Reply to a lot of Off-Topic BS Posts -but- I have
Learn not to Originate too many anymore {or any-less :-}

Yeah - I change the Subject-Line in my Replies to Posts
-but- That is so the subject-line Reflects where the Thread
has gone -or- is going. [Being Honest with the Read]

The Vast Majority of my Off-Topic Replies are to Provide
the Opposing Conservative View-Point to some that has
been Posted and IMHO is a Political Liberal Half-Truth.

If you see some Conservative Half-Truths go ahead and
give them Your Other-Half of the Truth with a Liberal
Perspective to Balance Out The Off-Topic Dialog.
But Remember The 'Other' Guy Believe That He Is Right :
Just Like You Believe That You Are Right.
HEY - YOUs ARE MOST LIKELY BOTH HALF-RIGHT :o)

OBTW - Please Stop The Name Calling : To Me It Just
Says That Emotionally You {Everyone} Is A Sixth Grader.
When They Call You An "Asshole"
- - - Thank them for their Expert Opinion
-or- Asshole ? - Yeah I have heard that many times
'butt' coming from you that's a real compliment ;-}
* Pisses-Them-Off when they can't get you to react
Emotionally to them at the Sixth Grade Level and
they usually Lose-Their-Cool even more. Keeps you
on your "Game" and puts them off their 'game'.

= = RHF's America College Ain't The Answer Rant = =
Good Luck with the Tech School Teaching Job :o)
IMHO about 85% of the State and Federal Money
that needs to be Spent for Post Secondary Education
should be spent at the Two Year Junior College and
Technical School Level because 85% of the future
Jobs are at that Level. Coupled with getting the
High School Graduation Rates for Minority Males
as the Primary Secondary Education Goal : You
can't easily get to College or to a Technical School
without first getting a good High School Education.
Yeah - College and beyond for 15% of the Population
is Critical for a Competitive America
But - Don't Forget the Other 85% and Respect Them
and Reward Them as Valued and Needed Members
of the American Society Too. This 'Other' 85% are the
Common Decent Hardworking American Citizens :Who
Make the Nation Function and Hold It Together Every
Day : Including the Members of Our US Military.
- - - end of rant - - -

IN CLOSING MWB - May I remind You :
One On-Topic Post A Day Is All I Ask
Starting Each Day That Way Can't Hurt
and Just May Help - think about it ~ RHF
.
.

UncleFester

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Dec 12, 2008, 6:30:00 PM12/12/08
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Yes there are some wicked parents around but tell me why are the kids so
rebellious these days? Is it becuase of bad parents only? Could it be
that the education system has something to do with their attitudes?
Everything from sex Ed., at a way too early age to passing out condoms to
kids still in public school? Could it have anything to do with family
studies classes that some are taught? In general do you place the blame
solely on the parents for the way they turn out?
Any possible solutions?
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Billy Burpelson

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Dec 12, 2008, 7:07:02 PM12/12/08
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UncleFester wrote:

> Everything from sex Ed., at a way too early age to passing out condoms to
> kids still in public school?

Yeah, you're right and we agree.

Why teach the kids about sex? Why give them condoms? Better they get
pregnant or get HIV.

Brenda Ann

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"UncleFester" <fest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes there are some wicked parents around but tell me why are the kids so
> rebellious these days? Is it becuase of bad parents only? Could it be
> that the education system has something to do with their attitudes?
> Everything from sex Ed., at a way too early age to passing out condoms to
> kids still in public school? Could it have anything to do with family
> studies classes that some are taught? In general do you place the blame
> solely on the parents for the way they turn out?
> Any possible solutions?

Almost 100% of the problem is government interference in how the parents
raise their children. Corporal punishment is no longer allowed, at home or
at school. Funny how they say that spanking makes bad kids... but since the
government outlawed it (on the heels of Dr. Spock, et. al., and well-meaning
social workers), things have only gone downhill.

Another influence (or lack thereof), is the church in people's lives. 85%
may SAY they are Christian, but I strongly suspect less than 1/3 of those
actually practice or even attend services. This 'whatever turns you on'
society is bound to eventual failure. Religion acts as a moral compass.
Without it's influence, we get what we have now: chaos. It may not be the
ideal for everyone, but so far, nobody's found anything that works any
better.

Brenda Ann

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"Billy Burpelson" <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote in message
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The problem is, parents DON'T teach their kids about sex (or drugs, or... ),
because the subjects make them so uncomfortable. So it's either the schools
or their peers (or their older siblings or their peers older siblings). This
will tend younger and younger as time goes on, with or without formal
education, because of peer pressure (possibly the greatest evil in
existance!)


Burr

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:07:46 PM12/12/08
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"Brenda Ann"

>
> Another influence (or lack thereof), is the church in people's lives. 85%
> may SAY they are Christian, but I strongly suspect less than 1/3 of those
> actually practice or even attend services. This 'whatever turns you on'
> society is bound to eventual failure. Religion acts as a moral compass.
> Without it's influence, we get what we have now: chaos. It may not be the
> ideal for everyone, but so far, nobody's found anything that works any
> better.
>
>
>

I agree with you so much Brenda.

We attend two churches her mind and my wife's but most of the people here
stay home and drink. My children were in chURch every Sunday of there life
until they went on their own. They tell me they are still very active and
with the grandchildren. I'm a happy dad.

The Philippines just blamed the corruption of the government and country on
the Catholic Church last week.

This country is one from the bottom of the most corrupt in the world.

Burr


UncleFester

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:36:55 PM12/12/08
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Exactly!
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UncleFester

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:39:15 PM12/12/08
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A happy dad you are more than entitled to. Good work.
Corrupt it is, Thailand first?
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RHF

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On Dec 12, 5:31 pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
> "UncleFester" <feste...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:TtC0l.19089$Yg.1...@read2.cgocable.net...
>
> > Yes there are some wicked parents around but tell me why are the kids so
> > rebellious these days?   Is it becuase of  bad parents only?   Could it be
> > that the education system has something to do with their attitudes?
> > Everything from sex Ed., at a way too early age to passing out condoms to
> > kids still in public school?   Could it have anything to do with family
> > studies classes that some are taught?   In general do you place the blame
> > solely on the parents for the way they turn out?
> > Any possible solutions?
>
> Almost 100% of the problem is government interference in how the parents
> raise their children. Corporal punishment is no longer allowed, at home or
> at school. Funny how they say that spanking makes bad kids... but since the
> government outlawed it (on the heels of Dr. Spock, et. al., and well-meaning
> social workers), things have only gone downhill.

BAD - Yeah - That's One You Hit Dead On :
Reasonable "Forceful" Parenting is Needed
And Oh Yes Children Need To Know :
There Is Right and There is Wrong :
That They Have To Pay For Their Mistakes
and Also Learn From Their Mistakes.
The Simple Fact That Doing Wrong -is- Doing Wrong
That They Are Responsible For Themselves and Medical
Claims of ADD ADH and Drugs Are Not an Easy Answer
for Every Mistake and Wrong Doing.

> Another influence (or lack thereof), is the church in people's lives.  85%
> may SAY they are Christian, but I strongly suspect less than 1/3 of those
> actually practice or even attend services. This 'whatever turns you on'
> society is bound to eventual failure.  Religion acts as a moral compass.
> Without it's influence, we get what we have now: chaos. It may not be the
> ideal for everyone, but so far, nobody's found anything that works any
> better.

BAD - The Failure Starts with the Parents :
[Parents Have To Be Empowered To Be Parents Again]
1 - The Parents Have To Go To Church Themselves
2 - The Parents Have To Live Their Lives Like There
Is A Right and Wrong : Live The Message Be An
Example To Their Children.
3 - Then The Children Can Go To Church With Their
Parents and Learn Values At Church and See Their
Community Has a Value System of Right and Wrong
[ Become Part of the Community of Right Doers ]
4 - The Children Have To Live Their Lives Like There
Is A Right and Wrong : Live The Message Be An
Example To Younger Children.
IT ALL FLOWS FROM THE PARENTS TO THE CHILDREN
-and- FROM THE CHURCH TO THE CHILDREN
-and- FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE CHILDREN
AAMF - Somebody wrote a book
"It Takes a Village to Raise a Children" {Guess Who}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_a_Village
* But The Building Blocks of Every Village is "The Family"
* The Mortar of Every Village is "Church = The Extend Family
of Common Values and Traditions and Community"
* The Strength of Every Village is a "Sense of Community
a Feeling of Mutual Respect for Other Members of The
Community Responsibility to The Community {Belonging}
.
The Village Has To Once Again Empower Parents
To Be Responsible and Respected Parents That Are
Examples To Their Children and To Other Members
of The Community.

Empower Parents : Take The Straight Jacket Off
The Parents and Let Them Be Parents

FWIW - The US Federal Government and State
Government and Big Cities All Ain't NO Village [.]
-hint- Your Neighborhood Your V-I-L-L-A-G-E
-cause- You Are Your Neighbors and Your
Neighbors Are You
-and- Good Neighbors Are Good Neighbors
-so- Be A Good Neighbor And Be Neighborly
-ie- Be Part of the Community That Is Your Village

thank you mom and dad for being good strong loving
parents : you were a blessing from god - amen ~ RHF
.
.

UncleFester

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'Shouldn't be doing anything in the first place. They've been sadly let
down and left unprotected against the shit in this world. The government
and school systems, a puppet of the government, took/take control of our
young from the first day they enter the "system". They should have been
allowed to be children and teens before throwing adult situations at them
and expecting them to cope when they are just babies themselves. Damn
shame what big brother is allowed to do to our families!
I think your right Mr. Burpelson, it's got past the point of no return so
all we can do is try to control it. Aids research possibly through chemical
sterilization by way of the food chain. Did you read about the problem
with the chemicals they've allowed us to use and those even in our food?
Men are becoming more effeminate and women the opposite! One way to
control the world's population. I wonder how this will affect Prez Obama
when he's clued into the 3rd world agenda. Damn, no more big mamma booty
/// reserved only for the ladies.
Get it while you can. Memories, pressed between the pages of my ......!

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UncleFester

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Dec 12, 2008, 10:34:50 PM12/12/08
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Great hopes RHF, do you think it's attainable? It would be the greatest
gift to have our children or at least the ones coming along, back again in
our control. By that I mean in the control of loving parents with the
proper tools to raise their children. Moral values, the ability to chastise
and correct when necessary and that oneness that seems to be missing from a
huge percentage of homes. But then the lastest generations are lacking in
this themselves, had no guidance and weren't allowed to according to the big
brother system. "Call your lawyer kid if you disagree". If that doesn't
work take one of these 3 times a day until you can leave home. You touch
me I'll sue!
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Telamon

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Dec 12, 2008, 10:34:38 PM12/12/08
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In article <K8idndvZLO3Njd7U...@giganews.com>,
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote:

You are spot on Brenda.

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Ventura, California

Telamon

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Dec 12, 2008, 10:37:02 PM12/12/08
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In article <geednbk_6P9uhd7U...@iwvisp.com>,
"Burr" <pit...@iwvisp.com> wrote:

> "Brenda Ann"
> >
> > Another influence (or lack thereof), is the church in people's lives. 85%
> > may SAY they are Christian, but I strongly suspect less than 1/3 of those
> > actually practice or even attend services. This 'whatever turns you on'
> > society is bound to eventual failure. Religion acts as a moral compass.
> > Without it's influence, we get what we have now: chaos. It may not be the
> > ideal for everyone, but so far, nobody's found anything that works any
> > better.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I agree with you so much Brenda.

Sure you do you snake.



> We attend two churches her mind and my wife's but most of the people here
> stay home and drink. My children were in chURch every Sunday of there life
> until they went on their own. They tell me they are still very active and
> with the grandchildren. I'm a happy dad.
>
> The Philippines just blamed the corruption of the government and country on
> the Catholic Church last week.
>
> This country is one from the bottom of the most corrupt in the world.

Yes, you know of corruption.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Billy Burpelson

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Brenda Ann wrote:


> Religion acts as a moral compass.

Religion or strong family values?

I'm sorry Brenda, but I believe "religion" is the root cause of many of
the world's ills.

"My God is more loving than your God, and if you don't believe me, I'm
going to beat the snot out of you". :-)

Muslims: Everyone who is not one is an infidel.

Christians: Can you say "The Crusades"? Sure you can!

Amish: Long story from 'Fine Woodworking' magazine. The Amish can't use
electricity, so they told of the Amish wood worker who used an (electric
start) Diesel air compressor to run air powered woodworking tools. Who
is he kidding? Why wouldn't God want him to just use electricity? Why
would God even care?

FDLS (FUNDAMETALIST Latter Day Saints): a real horror show -- polygamy,
not sending kids to public schools, no radio/TV/books/contact with the
outside world. Women are literally just a piece of property. A cult of
the very worst sort. Don't believe me? Just finished reading a new book
called 'Escape' written by a woman that finally escaped from the FDLS
nightmare.

So, have I offended enough religions yet? :-) My apologies, as
offending is not my intent, just illustrating.

Sorry, but there are days when I feel we would be better off without.

Brenda Ann

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"Billy Burpelson" <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote in message
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> Brenda Ann wrote:
>
>
>> Religion acts as a moral compass.
>
> Religion or strong family values?

I agree that religion does not hold all answers, and there are certainly
cretins in charge that use it to further their own agendas. BUT, that being
said, those strong family values have traditionally come from religious
teachings. They don't just materialize out of thin air.

Alas, nothing in this life is perfect, but some things are closer than
others...


BCBlazysusan

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On Dec 11, 8:59 pm, "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> Many parents just like me sat at the dinning room table trying to figure out
> how to pay to send their children to collage. I had six wonderful children 3
> boys, 3 girls and I was single parent. Somehow got them educated.
>
> Think of the parents who sent their children to the collage you were
> teaching in and then found out you were holding POT parties and more then
> likely Sex along with it with these children.
>
> YOU broke the trust as/of a teacher and you can never be forgiven for that.
> You took children that were trusted in your care by parents who may have
> spent the last dollar they had saved to send there children to collage so
> they could have a better life then the parents had. This is the trust you
> broke.
>
> You cussed me out a few years ago for saying something bad about you then
> Steve hung your ass and you started laying low. I found you on another group
> and I emailed you and asking if it was you. You begged me not to tell anyone
> where you were, that you needed this job so bad. I keep my mouth shut and
> watched. I dropped you a note from time to time and always said something
> nice, why say something bad. When you started this latest line of BS I sent
> you a note and said watch it, I didn't think you wanted to get this entire
> BS going.
>
> The way I figure it is, you have retired on a medical with your diabetes or
> you have lost your job and just don't give a shit. You said that I was
> referring to you when I said "POS", if the shoe fits then wear it.
>
> Now, you keep your mouth off me and I'll keep my mouth off you.
>
> Please excuse my poor English, I'm a stupid parent that spent their money to
> educate their children so a f-ked up POS like you could try to corrupt them
> as their "teacher"
>
> I hope you understand what I think of you and I think there is a few others
> here feel the same way!
>
> Burr

Ah man, round 1,027 coming up. I was shocked Burr when I read your
post. <sigh> Well, it was nice while it lasted I suppose. Human
nature, you gotta love it. :-I

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 13, 2008, 6:16:00 AM12/13/08
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On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,

>
>  "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
>
> Get lost.
>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California

I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.

Dave

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Dec 13, 2008, 9:53:51 AM12/13/08
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UncleFester wrote:
> Yes there are some wicked parents around but tell me why are the kids so
> rebellious these days? Is it becuase of bad parents only? Could it be
> that the education system has something to do with their attitudes?
> Everything from sex Ed., at a way too early age to passing out condoms to
> kids still in public school? Could it have anything to do with family
> studies classes that some are taught? In general do you place the blame
> solely on the parents for the way they turn out?
> Any possible solutions?
> <garya...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3b004ce2-214f-49a7...@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

The ruling elite want a dumbed-down lower class. Good source of cannon
fodder and farm labor.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
"If you are going to tell people the truth, you had better make them
laugh or they will kill you." --Oscar Wilde

Robert E. Hall

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"BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
behavior.

Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.


Telamon

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Dec 13, 2008, 8:48:54 PM12/13/08
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In article
<3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
BCBlazysusan <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
> >
> >  "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
> >
> > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
> >
> > Get lost.
> >
>

> I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.

I posted the truth, which you can take or leave.

Disgusting, he made many foul posts.

Coward, used several anonymous handles to attack me.

Backstabbing, pretended he was not the source.

Trolling, what else would you call what he did?

Pervert, what he thinks is funny would make you sick.

Basically this guy is a snake type person you would be wise to avoid.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon

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Dec 13, 2008, 8:50:14 PM12/13/08
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In article <gi10bc$374$1...@news.motzarella.org>,

"Robert E. Hall" <HallM...@Hall.com> wrote:

> "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
> >
> > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
> >
> > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
> >
> > Get lost.
> >
>

> >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
>
>
> I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> behavior.
>
> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.

Hey snake, I would never ever expect you to be a decent person.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF

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Dec 13, 2008, 10:24:13 PM12/13/08
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On Dec 12, 7:54 pm, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
> Brenda Ann wrote:
> > Religion acts as a moral compass.
>
> Religion or strong family values?
>
- I'm sorry Brenda, but I believe "religion" is the root cause of many
of
- the world's ills.
-
- "My God is more loving than your God, and if you don't believe me,
I'm
- going to beat the snot out of you".   :-)
-
- Muslims: Everyone who is not one is an infidel.
-
- Christians: Can you say "The Crusades"? Sure you can!
-
- Amish: Long story from 'Fine Woodworking' magazine. The Amish can't
use
- electricity, so they told of the Amish wood worker who used an
(electric
- start) Diesel air compressor to run air powered woodworking tools.
Who
- is he kidding? Why wouldn't God want him to just use electricity?
Why
- would God even care?
-
- FDLS (FUNDAMETALIST Latter Day Saints): a real horror show --
polygamy,
- not sending kids to public schools, no radio/TV/books/contact with
the
- outside world. Women are literally just a piece of property. A cult
of
- the very worst sort. Don't believe me? Just finished reading a new
book
- called 'Escape' written by a woman that finally escaped from the
FDLS
- nightmare.
-
- So, have I offended enough religions yet?   :-) My apologies, as
- offending is not my intent, just illustrating.
-
- Sorry, but there are days when I feel we would be better off
without.

Billy Burpelson,

So You Are "Religious Free" -but- Preaching Hate and Intolerance

1 - The Christian's Crusades happened
several hundred years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
2 - The Islamic Jihad "IS" Happening Today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
3 - #1 and #2 Prove There Is A Difference

Go For It "BP" Keep Preaching That hate, Hate. HATE !
For All Persons-of-Faith {Believers}
BP - You are a classic example of so-called
Liberal Enlightenment {Understanding}
BP - You are a perfect example of so-called
Left-Wing Tolerance {Acceptance}
BP - You are the poster-person of so-called
Democrat Diversity {Universal Equality}

bp - i will have a warm-and-friendly 'compassionate
conservative' thought for you - pal ~ RHF
.
.

Burr

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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...

Burr

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Dec 13, 2008, 11:01:25 PM12/13/08
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"Telamon"

> I posted the truth, which you can take or leave.
>
> Disgusting, he made many foul posts.
>
> Coward, used several anonymous handles to attack me.
>
> Backstabbing, pretended he was not the source.
>
> Trolling, what else would you call what he did?
>
> Pervert, what he thinks is funny would make you sick.
>
> Basically this guy is a snake type person you would be wise to avoid.
>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California

Talamon,
What in the hell at\re you talking about.

No one has said a word about or to you.

Wake up, pull your head out.

You were here years ago when this stuff got started.

Tell me one word I said that was not correct!


Robert E. Hall

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Dec 14, 2008, 3:47:31 AM12/14/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...

Remember, I am holding a mirror up to you.

And you dont like what you see....

Robert E. Hall

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Dec 14, 2008, 3:46:58 AM12/14/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...

And the telaturd is not in a position to judge others.

He has a defective character...

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 14, 2008, 7:46:04 AM12/14/08
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> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was speaking to Telamon <sigh> that didn't mean you had to file your
nails and scratch into this thread. Nothing personal Robert, I just
didn't want you to throw your hat into a thread that I feel (because
of MB's response towards me in another thread related ) was going to
get personal. No disrespect meant. I hope you understand. :-)

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:09:39 AM12/14/08
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On Dec 13, 8:48 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <3af51d8b-83dc-4a41-9e2b-54d62135d...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> I posted the truth, which you can take or leave.


Hey Telamon, no problem. That is why I asked what is called a
"question" because I didn't know the answer.


>
> Disgusting, he made many foul posts.

Again, I didn't know or read this. I read nothing that was
"disgusting" unless I missed it. If there was really something really
disgusting I didn't see. Not to say it wasn't written.......I just
simply didn't see it.


>
> Coward, used several anonymous handles to attack me.

Really? Again - I didn't know Telamon


>
> Backstabbing, pretended he was not the source.
>
> Trolling, what else would you call what he did?

Really? Hmmm. I guess you mean .....I guess you mean Burr maybe? It is
easy to get the names mixed up. FWIW Telamon. Well FWIW I am the
unlucky .... or depending on how you look at it ;-) unlucky person/
persons that "literally" deal (with no other choice) liars everday of
my life, that is simply/not simply what I get paid to do.


>
> Pervert, what he thinks is funny would make you sick.
>
> Basically this guy is a snake type person you would be
wise to avoid.

You mean Burr or Michael, because I do know the history of Michael
Bryant....at least here on the newsgroup.

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:23:37 AM12/14/08
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On Dec 14, 3:47 am, "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <gi10bc$37...@news.motzarella.org>,

> > "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
>
> >> "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
> >> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
>
> >> > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> >> > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> >> > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
>
> >> > Get lost.
>
> >> >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> >> >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> >> >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> >> >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
>
> >> I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> >> behavior.
>
> >> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.
>
> > Hey snake, I would never ever expect you to be a decent person.
>
> Remember, I am holding a mirror up to you.
>
> And you dont like what you see....- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Man, this is getting nasty all around. I "almost" wished I didn't ask
simple questions. {?}

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:46:04 AM12/14/08
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> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Robert - you piped in when I was talking to Telamon. You seem to be
wanting to add fuel to the fire. I didn't "speak out" to Telamon.....I
simply asked him a question and he answered appropriately.

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:51:14 AM12/14/08
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On Dec 13, 8:48 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <3af51d8b-83dc-4a41-9e2b-54d62135d...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

> Coward, used several anonymous handles to attack me.
>
> Backstabbing, pretended he was not the source.
>
> Trolling, what else would you call what he did?
>
> Pervert, what he thinks is funny would make you sick.
>
> Basically this guy is a snake type person you would be wise to avoid.
>
> --
> Telamon

> Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


>
> - Show quoted text -

Mental note made Telamon.

RHF

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Dec 14, 2008, 1:45:35 PM12/14/08
to
Rádio Nacional da Amazônia on 6185 kHz @ 07:35 UTC

Heard Portuguese Language and Brazilian Sound Music with
Rádio [RADU] Nacional and Rádio Nacional do Brasil IDs
.
Rádio Brás - Radio Brazil
http://www.radiobras.gov.br/
http://stream.agenciabrasil.gov.br/estatico/
* Pelo Direito o Informação
.
Rádio Nacional do Brasil (RNB)
http://www.radiobras.gov.br/nacional/nacionalbrasil.htm
.
Rádio Nacional da Amazônia
http://stream.agenciabrasil.gov.br/estatico/radio_nacional_amazonia.htm
.
Programação - Rádio Nacional da Amazônia
http://stream.agenciabrasil.gov.br/estatico/rna_programacao.htm
http://stream.agenciabrasil.gov.br/estatico/rna_sinopse.htm
.
Rádio Nacional Brazian Broadcasters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A1dio_Nacional
.
BRAZIL = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/samerica/brnewzz.gif
.
yes i heard it on the ray-di-oh ~ RHF
Twain Harte, CA -USA-
.
Shortwave Listener QSL Reports Newsgroup : SWR3 : 393
http://groups.google.com/group/shortwave-listener-qsl-reports/msg/fedb7fd7f8547df4
.
.

Monty Hall

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Dec 14, 2008, 1:39:14 PM12/14/08
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"BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:0362bef4-561f-42c3...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 13, 1:48 pm, "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
> "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
>
>
>
>
>
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
>
> > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
>
> > Get lost.
>
> > --
> > Telamon
> > Ventura, California
> >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
>
> I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> behavior.
>
> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>>Robert - you piped in when I was talking to Telamon.\

In case you haven't figured this out....newsgroups are public discussion
forums.

If you wanted to speak to Telamonprivately, you can send him an email.

Monty Hall

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Dec 14, 2008, 1:41:03 PM12/14/08
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"BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b7761428-c8ac-4c30...@s36g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 13, 1:48 pm, "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
> "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
>
>
>
>
>
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
>
> > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
>
> > Get lost.
>
> > --
> > Telamon
> > Ventura, California
> >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
>
> I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> behavior.
>
> Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

> I was speaking to Telamon <sigh> that didn't mean you had to file your
> nails and scratch into this thread.

That's OK...in a public discussion forum, I weigh in when I feel it
necessary....


Billy Burpelson

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Dec 14, 2008, 3:34:11 PM12/14/08
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RHF wrote:

> Billy Burpelson,
>
> So You Are "Religious Free" -but- Preaching Hate and Intolerance

Damn, Roy...you really -are- working hard to maintain your "FOOL"
status, aren't you? ;-)

Please tell me when quoting *HISTORICAL FACT* became "Preaching Hate and
Intolerance".

Telamon

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:55:07 PM12/14/08
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In article
<0362bef4-561f-42c3...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
BCBlazysusan <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Dec 13, 1:48 pm, "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
> > "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
> >
> > > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
> >
> > > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
> >
> > > Get lost.
> >

> > >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> > >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> > >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> > >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
> >
> > I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> > behavior.
> >
> > Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Robert - you piped in when I was talking to Telamon. You seem to be
> wanting to add fuel to the fire. I didn't "speak out" to Telamon.....I
> simply asked him a question and he answered appropriately.

Burr is Robert E. Hall, Hall Monitor, Monty Hall and others. He will
probably keep changing his handle and Trolling behavior.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Burr

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Dec 14, 2008, 9:05:07 PM12/14/08
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"Telamon"

>
> Burr is Robert E. Hall, Hall Monitor, Monty Hall and others. He will
> probably keep changing his handle and Trolling behavior.
>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California

Telamon,
You sir are a Stupid SOB!!!

I have never used anything but my real name, you won't even use your real
name.

Now fellow, you need to pull your head out of your ASS and wake up.

Anything I to say I say it and I sign my name to it.

You have forced me to agree with the rest of the people who say all these
things about you, they must know what they are talking about.

Fuck You.

Burr


Brenda Ann

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Dec 14, 2008, 11:14:10 PM12/14/08
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"Burr" <pit...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
news:oYidnZ4qhMfJJtjU...@iwvisp.com...

Chill, Burr.. you're better than that.


Telamon

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Dec 14, 2008, 11:21:48 PM12/14/08
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In article <fu-dnZI0kdgPRNjU...@giganews.com>,
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote:

No he is not.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BCBlazysusan

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:05:05 AM12/15/08
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On Dec 14, 8:55 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <0362bef4-561f-42c3-bbb2-4c99f20e6...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the response, I wasn't aware of that.

Monty Hall

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Dec 15, 2008, 3:44:47 AM12/15/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...

Burr is Robert E. Hall?

Maybe it helps for you to lump everyone that htinks you are a turd into one
person.

You'll never learn will you.

That's why you are a turd.


>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California


Monty Hall

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Dec 15, 2008, 3:45:40 AM12/15/08
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"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...

And Telemon is in a position to judge others?

Funny. Turd

RHF

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Dec 15, 2008, 9:39:08 PM12/15/08
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On Dec 14, 5:55 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <0362bef4-561f-42c3-bbb2-4c99f20e6...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>  BCBlazysusan <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 1:48 pm, "Robert E. Hall" <HallMoni...@Hall.com> wrote:
> > > "BCBlazysusan" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:3af51d8b-83dc-4a41...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Dec 11, 10:15 pm, Telamon
>
> > > <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > > > In article <B5adndVLHJcMWNzUnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@iwvisp.com>,
>
> > > > "Burr" <pitz...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
> > > > > Mike, lets call a spade a spade.
>
> > > > Burr you are disgusting cowardly backstabbing Trolling pervert.
>
> > > > Get lost.
>
> > > >I won't go "that" far Telamon but I will have to say.......Burr-
> > > >wasn't there any other way to handle this? I mean backchannel or
> > > >something else other than making it public so too speak on usenet? I
> > > >am not judging you or Steve- I am just asking.
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> > > I think this is the fifth person now who has spoken out about Telamon's
> > > behavior.
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> > > Yet, I dont expect him to "grow up" all of the sudden.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Robert - you piped in when I was talking to Telamon. You seem to be
> > wanting to add fuel to the fire. I didn't "speak out" to Telamon.....I
> > simply asked him a question and he answered appropriately.
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- Burr is Robert E. Hall, Hall Monitor, Monty Hall and others.
- He will probably keep changing his handle and Trolling behavior.
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- Telamon
- Ventura, California

El Telamondo©,

Honestly I Don't 'think' the HALL Sock-Puppets etc
are in-fact "Burr" -but- 'others' are promising . . .

You may not be able to see the Foot-Prints in the Water
-but- You Can Study The Ripples ( ( ( 8 ) ) )
-or-like- "A Noiseless Patient Spider"
wait to 'feel' the Vibrations on the Web . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Noiseless_Patient_Spider
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