Antenna for Office Radio
loaf...@adelphia.net
is on the bottom floor - more or less a basement and has no window. I
am getting a CCRadio Plus (yes I have read the pros and cons but I got
a good deal relatively speaking to the list price, and have a 30-day
trial). My opinion is that I may need some sort of other antenna
especially for AM and maybe FM too for that matter due to the possibly
poor building location, plus it is a small town so the best stations
are at least 50 - 100 miles. I know about the selct-a-tenna etc. Crane
sells but am not eager to pony up more $ should I need an external
antenna. Is there anything that will look suitable for office use that
I can add to the external antenna jack on the Crane if I need it that
won't set me back a lot more cash? Thanks.
David
dxAce
David wrote:
He was asking about an antenna for a RADIO, 'tard boy, not that damn satellite
crap you're shilling for.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Bob Miller
The radio has a built-in 8-inch ferrite bar antenna, so simply
rotating the radio should be sufficient for bringing in most stations.
Otherwise, the manual recommends a 50 foot wire on the jack as an
external AM antenna. You could try that as a cheapo option.
I have the Select-a-tenna device, and it works extremely well on weak
AM stations, "if" they are in the clear, frequency-wise.
There's no jack for an external FM antenna, so short of coupling
something to the built-in whip, your options are limited.
It's a good radio, but don't expect miracles.
bob
k5qwg
Doug Smith W9WI
I don't think satellite radio is going to work very well in a windowless
basement.
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Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com
Eric F. Richards
> The radio has a built-in 8-inch ferrite bar antenna, so simply
> rotating the radio should be sufficient for bringing in most stations.
> Otherwise, the manual recommends a 50 foot wire on the jack as an
> external AM antenna. You could try that as a cheapo option.
I had excellent results using copper alarm tape from Rat Shack to use
as an antenna. Even soldering wire to it (not while it's on the
window!) turned out to be pretty easy. Put the tape along the edge of
a window but not up against the frame itself -- if you have window
shades, the top of the window may be your best bet.
--
Eric F. Richards, efr...@dim.com
"It's the Din of iBiquity." -- Frank Dresser
cd...@bfn.org
Art Harris
> I finally have an office where I can have a radio. Unfortunately it
> is on the bottom floor - more or less a basement and has no window. I
> am getting a CCRadio Plus (yes I have read the pros and cons but I got
> a good deal relatively speaking to the list price, and have a 30-day
> trial). My opinion is that I may need some sort of other antenna
> especially for AM and maybe FM too for that matter due to the possibly
> poor building location, plus it is a small town so the best stations
> are at least 50 - 100 miles.
If this is a steel frame office building, your reception in the AM band
and lower frequency SW bands will be very poor. You'll need to sneak a
wire outside and up toward the roof.
Even FM reception in a basement will be limited to local stations. You
gotta get something up on the roof.
Art N2AH
RHF
Yes Copper {Foil} Alarm Tape can be put to use as
Loop Antenna around the Window about an Inch or
two away from the Metal Frame of the Window.
If the Loop does not work 'cut' the Tape in the middle
of the Loop and try it as a Folded {Bent} Dipole. The
Dipole-on-the-Window usually works better for FM Radio.
Also if the Copper {Foil} Tape is too much of a Eye
Sore - Then try very thin Magnet Wire with a few
pieces of Scotch {Clear} Tape to hold it in-place on
the Window. The Magnet Wire on the Window
usually allows for several turns about and Inch
apart either as a Loop Antenna or as a bent spiral
Random Wire Antenna.
just my two cents worth - iane ~ RHF
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RHF
Yes the Select-A-Tenna placed near a Window or
Out-Side {Exterior} Wall where the AM/MW Radio
Reception is good can be one way of 'importing a
Signal from a remote location to a Desk inside an
Office.
Use Speaker Wire {Twisted} with an 1/8" Mono-Plug
on one end to plug into the Select-A-Tenna and
connect the two Wires on the other end to the
Terminals of the Radio.
hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
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Bob Miller
wrote:
>Bob [K5QWG],
>
>Yes the Select-A-Tenna placed near a Window or
>Out-Side {Exterior} Wall where the AM/MW Radio
>Reception is good can be one way of 'importing a
>Signal from a remote location to a Desk inside an
>Office.
Wrong, it doesn't have to be where the reception is "good" or near a
window.
bob
k5qwg
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
RHF
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Actually - I have looked at this new Loop Antenna
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The Flat Solid Copper Strap is 4" Wide and has about 3
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The Diameter of this Loop Antenna 18" which is significantly
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The Loop Antenna is 'lower profile' than the Square
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May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always
have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}
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cuh...@webtv.net
and sometimes at night,I could pick it up on any of my radios that
work.Then they went to FM,messed me up!
cuhulin
David Eduardo
<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9581-447...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
> KVOO FM,Tulsa,Oklahoma (wonderfull Western Ranch music) used to be on AM
> and sometimes at night,I could pick it up on any of my radios that
> work.Then they went to FM,messed me up!
I guarantee that what messed you up was not a radio station in Oklahoma.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
an_old_friend
OTOH to his credit he does admit to being messed up even if he does nt
know the reason he is messed up
RHF
Your AM/MW Radio plus AM/MW Loop Antenna
- Three Ways to Use Them Together
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/9766
1 - YES - You are right the Select-A-Tenna can be used beside the
AM/MW Radio for improved reception; and often doing just that works OK.
READ - AM/MW DXing = Your Radio + Lazy Susan + Select-A-Tenna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1787
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1811
READ - About the 'alternative' to the common Loop Antenna
The Long "LoopStick" Antenna for AM/MW/BCB DXing
-by- Bill Bowden
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/3075
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/3100
2 - Sometimes inside and Office Building it is necessary
to run a Wire to an Out-Side Area or Window to
'import' a Signal to the Office Space {Desk} which is
the Listening Area for the Radio. The Select-A-Tenna
is then used as a AM/MW Tuner-Coupler for the
External Wire Antenna. -Example-
http://www.ccrane.com/antennas/am-antennas/select-a-tenna-model-m.aspx
READ - Using a AM/MW Loop Antenna as a Tuner-Coupler
with your GE Superadio / CCRadio+ / Grundig S350
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2272
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1150
READ - For Improved AM/MW DXing - Think Loop Antenna
as a Coupler Tuner
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2240
3 - Other times when a single AM/MW Radio Station
is the Target-of-Interest of the Radio Listener and
Interior AM/MW Radio reception is difficult. The
Select-A-Tenna can be located near a Window or
Exterior Wall and a feed-in-line {Twisted Speaker
Wire} can be used to 'import' the selected AM/MW
Radio Station's Signal into the Radio via the Radio's
AM/MW Antenna Input Terminals or Jack. -Example-
http://www.ccrane.com/antennas/am-antennas/select-a-tenna-hardwire-model.aspx
READ - "HOW TO USE" a AM/MW Loop Antenna
with a 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1865
More to read about AM / MW Radfio Reception :
* Improving AM Radio Reception - Carlos
http://www.ccrane.com/library/am-reception.08.25.03.aspx
* Improving AM Reception In An Office Building - Carlos
http://www.ccrane.com/library/office-am-reception.04.29.02.aspx
* AM / MW Radio Reception Tips - Carlos
http://www.ccrane.com/library/am-reception-tips.10.29.01.aspx
* C. Crane Co. "Carlos" - About the Author
http://www.ccrane.com/library/carlos-perez-bio.aspx
READ - Using the Built-in WHIP Antenna
for Better AM/MW Radio Reception
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/875
READ - AM/MW Radio Reception : Whip Antenna Up? -or- Down?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1105
READ - About - The three 'small' commercial AM/MW/BCB
Loop Antennas and more...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/2584
am - a medium wave goodbye - iane ~ RHF
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RHF
I would agree the deeper that you get into the Core
{Interior} of a Steel Frame Office Building the more
difficult it is to get a Strong Clean Signal for all kinds
of Radio Reception. Getting a piece of Wire Out-Side
and Up-in-the-Air {On-the-Roof} is on of the better
solutions to correcting this problem and usually
easier then gettting promoted to a job with a Corner
Office Window :o)
RHF
Wait a Day and then Re-Read It : Ask Yourself
"Now Did I Really Want To Say That ?"
something to think about ~ RHF
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sdan...@nyc.rr.com
that both Sirius and XM are in real trouble. Part of the problem is
that they're poorly run companies, part is that people are beginning to
realize that the technology is obsolete, and part is that the
programming is still extremely "commercial", despite lacking
commercials. Too bad, I guess. They should have known better.
homepc
I just got this loop antenna in the mail a couple of days ago. I haven't
tried it at the office yet, but it works well at boosting weak AM stations
in the early evening.
I'm in southern Manitoba and usually listen to KFAB 1110 Omaha Nebraska at
night (just for a laugh). In the winter the station usually comes in clear,
but in the summer it's hit and miss. This loop antenna was able to boost a
barely audible signal to a listenable level. It's probably just the same as
a select a tenna or the Terk 1000 , and it works between 515 to 1920 kHz.
My results with the TG-33 antenna didn't even come close.
The seller marked it as a gift, so no customs or sales tax :)
<loaf...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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Telamon
sdan...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
XM and Sirius are both speculative stocks. Both companies have high
startup costs launching those satellites and current operating costs so
the EPS is still negative for both.
They both need a large numbers of subscribers to be profitable. Their
subscription base keeps growing but they are not there yet. Radios
installed by the auto manufactures are their best bet for this to happen.
<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=SIRI>
<http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ae?s=XMSR>
The last two years have had good news for both companies with auto
companies committing to putting the receivers in their cars and a lot
of press for on the air talent that was signed up but it looks like
that news has run its course and the stock price is dropping. Looks
like Sirius has been selling off since last Sept. and XM since last
Jan. I have not looked at them that closely but their subscription base
is growing and the operating costs should not be going up so at some
point they should be profitable.
If either company comes up with more positive press like more new talent
being signed up to boost subscriptions then you can expect the price to
go back up.
I'll stick with terrestrial radio and when there is nothing I want to
hear on it I put in a CD of music.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Stephanie Weil
> part is that people are beginning to
> realize that the technology is obsolete,
How is the technology obsolete? It's just subscriber-based bird-feed
radio.
Stephanie
Lisa Simpson
you simply place beside your radio, no wires to attach !"
"homepc" <wie...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cuh...@webtv.net
wimmins.Oklahoma never messed me up.
www.hometownfreepress.com OKLAHOMA
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
some wire around a piece of cardboard or around a window.There is your
cheap effective loop antenna.
cuhulin
James Douglas
>> is on the bottom floor - more or less a basement and has no window. I
>> am getting a CCRadio Plus (yes I have read the pros and cons but I got
>> a good deal relatively speaking to the list price, and have a 30-day
>> trial). My opinion is that I may need some sort of other antenna
>> especially for AM and maybe FM too for that matter due to the possibly
>> poor building location, plus it is a small town so the best stations
>> are at least 50 - 100 miles. I know about the selct-a-tenna etc. Crane
>> sells but am not eager to pony up more $ should I need an external
>> antenna. Is there anything that will look suitable for office use that
>> I can add to the external antenna jack on the Crane if I need it that
>> won't set me back a lot more cash? Thanks.
>>
>
>
> www.xmradio.com
>
www.sirius.com does not work in my office, 5th floor next to the window,
Dallas, TX! Wish I never spent the $120.00 + monthly
fees. Wife has one in the car also and she likes it there but inside
pretty much everywhere it does not work very good at all.