Best SWL RCVR to buy?
OregonMike
scene.
Things that pop into my mind that are a must are
(1) SSB/CW reception
(2) Freq. read out (LCD or whatever)
(3) External antenna support
(4) High sensitiviy and selectivity
I haven't looked at SWL RCVRs in some time and don't really know much
of what's best to get with the ones I'm seeing available to buy online.
I'm not even keen on where the best place to buy on is. Any help or
input would be great!
Thanks,
OM
David
wrote:
There are 4 entry level receivers.
ICOM R75
Eton E1
Palstar R30
Yaesu FRG-100B
fcat...@msn.com
FC
Brian Denley
Don't forget the Ten-Tec R-320 if a DSP computer controlled receiver works
for you. Can't be beat for the price.
http://radio.tentec.com/Amateur/Receivers/TT320
There is also the WinRadio line.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html
geor...@yahoo.com
stations as close as 0.1 kHz apart when same strength & as close as 1
kHz apart when 1 is stronger. It has great syncronous detector, LSB/USB
& AM with syncronous on or off, passband tuning, frequency readout of
10 Hz with great sounding SSB, 3 selectivities 2.3/4/6, runs on 4 D
cells or AC, the sensitivity is 2uv AM, 0.25uv SSB & of course it can
take external antennas (all bands) but requires an adapter or 2 for
that. Reviews www.radiointel.com as well as in the 2006 Passport.
Dealers: Universal Radio, Grove Ent, Sharper Image, Circuit City, JC
Penney, J & R, and several others. 1,700 memories, bass & treble, S-1
to S9+60 signal strength meter. I like that I can sit it on my lap as
only about 5lbs. Of course others are good, too, but this is my
favorite now. It got audio from almost 30 medium wave (AM BCB) stations
in Europe, Africa & Middle East here in MN during October, on the whip
or the small Radio Shack loop. George S., MN
yzord...@verizon.net
I am dissapointed with it's out of the box performance. It is very
distorted and sync doesn't work. I am about to send it off for audio
and sync mods. It seems to be well constructed and otherwise easy to
operate with nice big display. I hear that the mods will make it work
a lot better
I thought at one time that it might give my R8B a good run for money
with the mods, but I'm backing off from that kinda thinking. The R8B
is a damn nice piece of gear. I actually thought that I might sell the
Drake once the ICOM got back with the mods. I'll probably keep both
Go for a R8B if the price isn't a prob. Otherwise maybe R75 with the
mods would be a good choice.
73
NEO
OregonMike
Thanks for the reply David. At least I recognize the Icom and Yaesu
names :) I have many amateur rigs made by them.
I don't need an "entry level" receiver per se, but if one works well
then I'm game for getting one. I started SWL in 1983'ish with an old,
analog Radio Shack RCVR and listened since the late 80's with various
HF amateur radios. So, 1983 was the last time I had a SWL specific
radio! I'm stuck using my Yaesu FT-847 as my SWL RCVR and want
something that's portable (battery powered as well as DC in).
OregonMike
one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is
(5) portability.
I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.
OM
OregonMike
Thanks for the advice. I've added them to my list to check out after
getting back home from the holidays.
OregonMike
It looks very interesting, in deed. I'll check that out as well. I may
opt to get one in addition to a portable one.
OregonMike
Thanks for the input. I played with BCB DX for a bit here on the left
coast and have heard stations from Japan and Malaysia (if memory serves
me right) with my Yaesu FT-847 and about a 500 ft. antenna. The FT-847
isn't very portable though and something I wouldn't want to lug around
even if I could.
Thanks again,
OM
OregonMike
Thanks for the insight on the R75. I'll keep in in mind while looking
at these rigs.
73 es Gud DX
OM
David
wrote:
You probably would like the Eton (they own Grundig name in some
places). Well built.
David
My stock R-75 is just fine for what I use it for. I only use the AM
mode in the daytime for local broadcasts. The rest of the time I'm in
SSB mode, listen to MWDX or HFBC.
I have an R8B also, but not next to the bed.
David
wrote:
The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
recurring monthly.
Rob
"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
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Brian Denley
> R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
>
>
You own one?
junius
looking for above average portable performance), then you would be
advised to look toward the Eton E1.
You might also look into getting your hands on a used Drake SW8
receiver. It's a significantly bulkier than the Eton. In terms of
size and layout, it's much like your average tabletop, but it can be
run off 6 D cells and has a handle. Bear in mind that this model,
which first came into production in, I believe 1994, underwent some
design changes from 1997 (sychronous selectable sideband was added, as
opposed to double-sideband synch in the earlier models, and also a
pre-amp to the internal whip was added from 1996). I've got one of the
earlier and one of the latter. Both are excellent, but clearly the
sychronous selectable sideband is a significant performance enhancing
feature. The SW8 sounds great for program listening, as well.
junius
junius
Drake. Mr. Oregon might take a look at qth.net classifieds for used
Drake R8/R8A/R8B, if eventually opting for a tabletop model.
I'm with dxAce on this one: I swear by Drake receivers. I've at one
time owned and used or currently own and use the following from the
Drake family: R8, R8A, R8B, SW8 ('94), SW8 ('97). Excellent
performance from all, and never a hitch or need for repairs.
junius
MojaveDxer
with the filters and passband. The Synchronous AM is broken so I just
use ECSS . The Yaesu FRG-100 is ok but there is nothing great about it.
I would love to have a RB8 but I am still tring to find an owner to
part with it. I am going to get a 7030+ before AOR throws in the towel
and gets out of the market like Drake did.
MojaveDxer
David Eduardo
"Rob" <Robw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
Yeah, it is essentially the gold standard for AM mode DX, whether MW or SW.
There is nothing even close to it in this usage, even for several time the
price.
Buzzygirl
I would consider myself fortunate if I could claim to have owned a Drake SW
receiver long enough to have been able to test it to the point where I could
find its weak points. Though I haven't owned this radio, I've listened to
those owned by friends, and can say that they are pretty much without peer
in the SW receiver world at their price level.
I assume from the tone of your post that you had a negative experience with
a Drake shortwave receiver?
Jackie
mike maghakian
if after that you buy anything else, your intelligence would be suspect
"OregonMike" <Orego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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dxAce
Rob wrote:
> R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
LMAO...
dxAce
Michigan
USA
John S.
In addition to the several new radios mentioned you should give
consideration to buying a used receiver such as a Kenwood R-5000, Icom
R71a or one of the Japan Radios. The Kenwood R-5000 is my personal
favorite, but any of the three will provide excellent reception and
have several features that wil help extracting a signal from difficult
listening conditions.
Good luck in the search and be sure to mention the receiver you finally
choose.
John S.
Everything I've read tells me the Drake receivers are high performers.
In the few times I tried one I was impressed with it's performance and
with the sheer number of controls. The only thing I was less than
impressed with was it's "feel" - the controls and the display left me
unimpressed.
David
R-390A
Bob Miller
I've been trying to figure out who Eton is. They're selling what used
to be called "Grundig" radios? Seen their ads; just don't know who
they are.
bob
k5qwg
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
rugged and a good performer. The E1 is way overpriced.
RHF
Best 'portable' Shortwave Receiver ? Icom IC-75 Communications
Receiver -or- Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
- - - Sort of Depends on what you call 'portable' ! - imho ~ RHF
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/6730
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1863
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/message/10957
"IF' by being 'portable' you mean "Mobile" then the
Icom IC-R75 is reasonably small enough to tote-around
and use in a "Mobile" Mode running-off the 12 VDC Power
of your Car or Truck.
* Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www.grove-ent.com/ICR75.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/0175.html
http://www.icomamerica.com/products/receivers/r75/
http://www.icomamerica.com/brochures/ic-r75.pdf
http://www.icomamerica.com/images/product/r75.jpg
* Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver - Specifications
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/0175spec.html
http://www.icomamerica.com/products/receivers/r75/specs.asp
* Optional - OPC-869 DC Fused Power Cable for 12 VDC Operation.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/0175ops.html
http://www.icomamerica.com/products/receivers/r75/specs.asp#acc
* Radio Netherlands 'Review" Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/features/media/productreviews/receivers/icr75.html
* ANARC "Review" Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www.anarc.org/naswa/issues/199911/equip199911.html
* RigPix DataBase Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www.rigpix.com/icom/icr75.htm
* eHAM "Owner's Reviews" Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/427
* The Icom IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver Information Center
featuring the Icom IC-R75 Cookbook - by Dr. Phil
INFO => http://www.geocities.com/philsr75infocenter/
COOKBOOK => http://www.geocities.com/philsr75infocenter/PhilCook.pdf
* Radio Reference WIKI - IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver
http://www.radioreference.com/wiki/index.php/IC-R75
* IC-R75 AM/MW Shortwave Receiver Group on YAHOO!
GROUP => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/
However, 'if' by being 'portable' you mean "Hand-Carrying"
then consider the Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio with the
optional XM Satellite Radio. It does in fact Run-Off
Batteries 4x"D"s and does have a fairly good average Battery
Life Cycle of about 80 Hours for AM/FM and Shortwave.
Note - The Battery Life using the 'optional' XM Satellite
Radio Tuner/Antenna is only in the range of 12-18 Hours.
It can be easily Rigged to Run-Off your Car's 12 VDC Power
with an Adapter.
* Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.grove-ent.com/EX1M.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product.aspx?catID=2&subCatID=4&prodID=9
* Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio - Features
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101feat.html
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product_specs.aspx?specs=true&prodID=9&catID=2&subCatID=4
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/product_specs/Eton_E1XM_specs.pdf
* XM Tuner/Antenna for XM Satellite Radio
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101cnp.html
* IC Regulated Universal DC Car Converter 800mA
http://www.grove-ent.com/DCC3.html
eHAM "Owner's Reviews" Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/5353
* Eton E1 "Photo Review" - by & © HongKongRadioer
http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1photo.htm
* Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio "Review" - by Jay Allen
http://www.radiointel.com/review-etone1.htm
* Eton E1 Radio -verses- Grundig Satellit 800 Radio
- by Dr. Phil - hosted by RadioIntel.Com
http://www.radiointel.com/phil/e1xmvssat800.pdf
* Modern Shortwave Receiver Survey
Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
http://www.dxing.com/rx/r75.htm
* Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio Group on YAHOO !
GROUP => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/
as always more than you wanted to know - iane ~ RHF
.
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna eGroup on YAHOO !
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/>
SWL ANTENNAS GROUP => http://tinyurl.com/an6tw
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever . . .
I Believe : On A Clear Night - You Can Hear Forever
- - - and Beyond, The BEYOND ! => http://tinyurl.com/an6tw
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/>
.
With a Shortwave Listener SWL Antenna of your own making.
"If You Build It {SWL Antenna} You Will Hear Them !"
SWL ANTENNAS GROUP => http://tinyurl.com/an6tw
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/>
.
.
. .
.
BDK
b.de...@comcast.net says...
> Rob wrote:
> > R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
> >
> >
> Yeah right. That's why it was the top rated receiver for so many years.
> You own one?
>
I have to admit, the R8 series just screamed CHEAP everytime I played
with one. It was a decent enough receiver, but I never really had the
desire to buy one. An R7/a was miles beyond an R8X, IMO.
BDK
David
wrote:
http://www.rwonline.com/reference-room/special-report/05_rwf_grundig_2.shtml
David
>I suggest picking up a used Lowe HF-150. It's very portable, very
>rugged and a good performer. The E1 is way overpriced.
>
The HF-150 only gets a few hours on the batteries. How do you figure
the E1 is overpriced? The SW8 cost a lot more and has fewer features.
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
using run out of steam. Wouldn't cost that much. You could buy a 150
and *several* sets of rechargeables for what you'd spend on an E1.
$500 is too much for a portable receiver. The SW77, before it was
discontinued, also cost around $500. That doesn't show that the E1
isn't overpriced, but simply that both the SW77 and E1 are/were
overpriced. Yes, the E1 has a lot of "features", but you're asking for
disappointment if you base your buying decisions on long lists of
features. (Features are relevant, of course, but they don't guarantee
good performance.) No matter how many features you tack onto the E1,
it's still only a portable receiver. A really good portable receiver,
no doubt, but if you have $500 bucks to spend, it's time to walk out of
the portable aisle--unless you have money to burn and don't care about
bang for the buck.
David
A good used HF-150 costs close to $500.
The gentleman said portability was paramount, and that he was beyond
''entry level''.
David Eduardo
"Bob Miller" <NOS...@neosoft.com> wrote in message
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Chinese manufacturer, who made most of the Radio Shack SW receivers... and
bought the brand when Grundig failed.
David Eduardo
Have owned both, and the R8 series is really superior.
r2000...@hotmail.com
For true portability I would suggest the 24V version of the R392, the
R392.
Back in 1970 I was tickled pink with mine.
Only ~69lbs. And a pair of car batteries to power it will only add
another 60lbs.
Which might be one reason why I have a hernia.
Terry
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
but...
As for portability, my guess is the 150 is better in this regard. It's
probably smaller and is certainly built better.
David
From the Palo Alto part of China.
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>
>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
>news:utgjo1d688rruid11...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:19:10 GMT, "David Eduardo"
>> <amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Rob" <Robw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:20185$43890d13$8b371381$67...@ALLTEL.NET...
>>>> R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
>>>
>>>Yeah, it is essentially the gold standard for AM mode DX, whether MW or
>>>SW.
>>>There is nothing even close to it in this usage, even for several time the
>>>price.
>>>
>>>
>> R-390A
>
>Have owned both, and the R8 series is really superior.
>
>
Me too.
junius
David wrote:
> On 27 Nov 2005 07:33:12 -0800, sdan...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
>
> >I suggest picking up a used Lowe HF-150. It's very portable, very
> >rugged and a good performer. The E1 is way overpriced.
> >
> The HF-150 only gets a few hours on the batteries. How do you figure
> the E1 is overpriced?
This point is not really worth pursuing, David. Steve has been vocal
on this point from one thread to the next where the E1 is discussed:
he finds the $500 price to be too much for a portable. It's the
central thesis to any argument he makes on the E1.
So he finds the price too high. Fair enough. Other folks don't find
it to be too much. That's fair enough, too. Steve provides a lot of
great info/insight/perspective to this group, but don't expect him to
agree with you that $500 is an acceptable price for the E1. It ain't
gonna happen.
Speaking for myself, I don't find the price so high that I wouldn't
consider buyin' an E1. As for the bang for buck consideration, it's a
matter of what bang you're lookin' for. As someone who does a lot of
listening away from home, I find the E1 to be an extremely attractive
option, as an reasonably-sized, all-in-one-unit premium portable.
Make no doubt about it, the HF-150 is a nice radio...although for that
class of radio, I twice opted for the SW8 and have been extremely happy
with the choice.
Still, the E1 fills a specific niche, and I'm personally quite pleased
that it has come along to fill that niche. I hope it proves to be a
successful seller. Because if the E1 proves a failure, we can well
expect the portable market to be left to the cheap, uninspiring,
under-$100 Chinese portables (and any new product hype will be over
such trivial matters as the inclusion of another 200 memories on the
latest Kaito Degen or a cabinet that's .5 cm less wide than the
predecessor).
Best,
Junius
David
To the point of overkill.
m II
> LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.
When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
dxAce
Michigan
USA
m II
Your Social Assistance cheque late again? That would explain the
temporary sobriety.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
Social Assistance?
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again!
dxAce
Michigan
USA
David
>Make no doubt about it, the HF-150 is a nice radio...although for that
>class of radio, I twice opted for the SW8 and have been extremely happy
>with the choice.
>
>Still, the E1 fills a specific niche, and I'm personally quite pleased
>that it has come along to fill that niche. I hope it proves to be a
>successful seller. Because if the E1 proves a failure, we can well
>expect the portable market to be left to the cheap, uninspiring,
>under-$100 Chinese portables (and any new product hype will be over
>such trivial matters as the inclusion of another 200 memories on the
>latest Kaito Degen or a cabinet that's .5 cm less wide than the
>predecessor).
>
I have an HF-150, which is a fine receiver and an excellent piece of
sculpture. I just don't consider something that eats 8 AAs in 3 hours
''portable''.
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
It works. You might also consider buying larger capacity rechargeables.
They will last longer in your 150. If you're unable to grasp these
concepts, by all means spend $500 on an E1.
junius
David wrote:
> >
> I have an HF-150, which is a fine receiver and an excellent piece of
> sculpture. I just don't consider something that eats 8 AAs in 3 hours
> ''portable''.
Well, if such battery consumption is typical for the HF-150, then
you've certainly got a point there.
Do you or anyone else have an idea of how the E1 is on battery
consumption?
cuh...@webtv.net
good as Cadillac.Although I don't own a Drake Radio,I reckon I will vote
for the Drake and Ten-Tec Radios.What's the best Antenna to buy?
cuhulin
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
portables, though of course it depends on volume level and so on.
However, my understanding is that, if you listen to XM while using
batteries, they'll probably only last around four hours or so. I
believe there's a lengthy discussion of the E1's battery consumption on
the E1 group on Yahoo.
junius
Junius
Rob
Was a big waste of $$$
"Brian Denley" <b.de...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Rob wrote:
> > R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE
> >
> >
> Yeah right. That's why it was the top rated receiver for so many years.
> You own one?
> --
> Brian Denley
> http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html
>
>
David
As I recall there are 2 plastic magazines to hold the cells. Do you
have spares. A bandolero for them? A Photovoltaic hat?
David
I think it's around 40-50 hours on a set of alkalines. The XM antenna
will reduce that by 75%.
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
batteries and replace them with fresh ones. Yes, we have the technology.
David
>Haven't you ever used batteries in your 150? You can pop out the used
>batteries and replace them with fresh ones. Yes, we have the technology.
>
I took the drawers out of the back once. I didn't really feel like
buying 8 NiCads. Still don't.
sdan...@nyc.rr.com
them. When I'm not using them in the 150 I use them in other things.
This is one of my favorite things about the 150, but oh well.
David Eduardo
The parent company is Taiwanese.and they subcontract the manufacturing.
>
David
<amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
Tha article says California-based. The CEO has a Middle Eastern name.
''"Eton is independent of Grundig Germany and is a licensee for
Grundig AG shortwave radios in the North American markets, as well as
certain markets outside of North America except EEC markets,"
explained a news release issued shortly after Grundig's April
bankruptcy by the Palo Alto, California-based radio firm.
"Eton, as an independent company, will continue to supply products and
fulfill all obligations to its customers as usual."
Eton won't just continue to sell Grundig-branded shortwave radios in
North America, but it will likely also remain the continent's dominant
player. Thanks to the business savvy of founder, president and CEO
Esmail Hozour, Eton has transformed North America into "the one region
in the world where Sony is not number one," said Larry Magne,
editor-in-chief of Passport to World Band Radio.
The company "has taken the market, and walked away with it. They own
North America, pure and simple," he said.''
David
I've been on NiMHs for a long time. I drag my ATS-606A around. It
gets about 30 hours on 3 AAs. I want one of those new Kaito De-1105s
because it has the vertical form factor. If I'm walking around I
don't need all the bells and whistles. Just good filtering and AGC.
Bob Miller
Eton sounds so veddy British.
bob
k5qwg
Brian Denley
You gave a pair of $1200-1400 radios to the kids to play with, huh?
(typical troll)
Brian Denley
The 390s have a great noise floor when properly tuned up. Other than that,
a modern PLL receiver has many more features.
m II
>
>
>>> When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
>>>
>> Your Social Assistance cheque late again? That would explain the
>> temporary sobriety.
>
> Social Assistance?
>
> LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again!
OK, so it's called Welfare in your neighbourhood. Same handout for the
same unemployables. Will you be buying Victory Gin with it again?
I understand that makes the intoxicated user laugh uncontrollably at
everything they can't understand..but you already knew that from
firsthand experience.
Will you be telling your case worker about your insurance settlement?
mike
m II
> Eton sounds so veddy British.
How so? We all say 'The table's been Eton and the bed's been Slepton',
don't we?
mike
D Peter Maus
Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA
>
>
OregonMike
E1 would be more suiting to my daily usage than would the Icom model.
I'd like to be able to carry it with me to work, on holidays, to the
living room, or whatnot.
OM
Mike@gmail.com OregonMike
>What's the best Antenna to buy?
>cuhulin
I tend to build all my own HF antennas outside some purchased
multiband yagis.
OM
Mike@gmail.com OregonMike
>Mr. Oregon might take a look at qth.net classifieds for used
>Drake R8/R8A/R8B, if eventually opting for a tabletop model.
There's an idea! I haven't checked there yet.
OM
OregonMike
>
>OregonMike wrote:
>> I'm planning to buy a new rcvr and would love some input on the current
>> scene.
>> Things that pop into my mind that are a must are
>>
>>
>> (1) SSB/CW reception
>> (2) Freq. read out (LCD or whatever)
>> (3) External antenna support
>> (4) High sensitiviy and selectivity
>>
>> I haven't looked at SWL RCVRs in some time and don't really know much
>> of what's best to get with the ones I'm seeing available to buy online.
>> I'm not even keen on where the best place to buy on is. Any help or
>> input would be great!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> OM
>
>In addition to the several new radios mentioned you should give
>consideration to buying a used receiver such as a Kenwood R-5000, Icom
>R71a or one of the Japan Radios. The Kenwood R-5000 is my personal
>favorite, but any of the three will provide excellent reception and
>have several features that wil help extracting a signal from difficult
>listening conditions.
>
>Good luck in the search and be sure to mention the receiver you finally
>choose.
Thanks for the reply..
I would guess that an r-5000 may be tough to lug around easily like to
the office, living room, patio, and wherenot ...
OM
OregonMike
OregonMike
>>one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is
>>
>>(5) portability.
>>
>>I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
>>it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.
>>
>>
>>OM
>>
>The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
>recurring monthly.
QSL,
I'm looking at the Eton E1 on some sites. Is there a best vendor
online/walk-in to look towards for purchasing RCVRs. Universal Radio
is selling the E1 for $499.95 from what I can tell.
OM
dxAce
D Peter Maus wrote:
OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
dxAce
dxAce wrote:
But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
questfo...@yahoo.com
yikes...
questfo...@yahoo.com
John S.
Wasn't aware of the portability issue. That said, the R-5000 runs
easily on 12 volts and a simple wire or an amplified whip antenna will
provide lots of signal.
To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.
Or, look at a Sony 7600 which is very portable, does ssb and voice very
well.
RHF
The one draw back of the Eton E1 Radio is that it
does not have a carrying Handle.
Suggest that 'if' you are going to be Carrying the
Eton E1 Radio around you get a Soft-Case built
for a Lap Top Computer.
IMHO - It is worth protecting your Investment in
this $500 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio.
something to think about - e1'ing you all ~ RHF
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David
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:27:41 GMT, David <ric...@knac.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:19:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
>><amd...@pacbell.com> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>>The company "has taken the market, and walked away with it. They own
>>North America, pure and simple," he said.''
>>
>>
>
>Eton sounds so veddy British.
>
>bob
>k5qwg
>
I think it's n-o-t-e backwards.
David
The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.
David
wrote:
You can walk into Universal. Ham Radio Outlet also carries them.
RHF
Could you be thinking of Sangean Electronics of Taiwan.
SANGEAN => http://www.sangean.com/profile.html
Vice the Eton Corp. (formerly Lextronics)
Eton Corp. which now trades as Grunding North America. See
http://www.grundigradio.com/
www.www.etoncorp.com
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld3066.txt
The Grundig name for Shortwave in the USA is
licenced by Eton Corporation in Palo Alto, CA.
Who is "Eton" (Corp.) and where did they come from ?
Report from Dr. Kim Andrew Elliott of the Voice of America
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld3068.txt
"Esmail Hozour, president of Eton, told me that the Grundig shortwave
radios are developed by Eton and its partners "99 percent
independently" of Grundig in Germany."
Source - Radio Netherlands Media Network 16 April 2003
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/html/medianews.html
via Glenn Hauser and World of Radio 1178, DXLD)
http://www.rwonline.com/reference-room/special-report/05_rwf_grundig_2.shtml
Esmail Amid-Hozour, Eton Corporation, Palo Alto, USA
Just met Dr Esmail Hozour again after many years. He used to run
Grundig North America. He is now CEO of Eton Corporation (Eton is Greek
for solid) and bringing out a whole series of new radios, many made in
Bangalore, India. It is the first time I have seen this type of quality
out of India. Eton believe in DAB as well as XM and Sirius, but are
taking a wait and see approach to DRM technology.
Amid-Hozour, Esmail (ETON/CEO), (Zip code: 94026) $1250
to IRANIAN AMERICAN POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE INC
on 07/04/04
http://www.city-data.com/elec/elec-MENLO-PARK-CA.html
http://herndon2.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00383653/90412/sa/17A
http://www.iranianamericanpac.org/news/detail.php?str=nG7y6NlW7o1N4J2R
http://www.stanford.edu/group/psa/events/2005-06/ifp_05/guestSpeakers.htm
Father - Amir Amid Hozour - 1930-2000
http://www.amiramidhozour.net/biography.htm
as always more than you wanted to know ~ RHF
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Source -
http://criticaldistance.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_criticaldistance_archive.html
"Eton" (Corp.) was founded in 1984 as a Lextronics,
a distributor of Grundig-made and -branded electronics,
including home audio and video products. In the late
1980s, it transitioned to marketing Grundig-made
shortwave radios, then began licensing the name for
radios of its own design.
http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=109
junius
John S. wrote:
> To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
> Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
> share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
> minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.
Very much an issue with the Satellit 800, which was put together by the
Tecsun folks in China; but I hadn't heard of quality control issues
with the E1, which is put together by your friends at Bharat
Electronics, an Indian manufacturer of defense and civil communications
products. The E1 has been out on the market for a number of months
now... have there been quality control issues to emerge?
This was one reason why I have opted to wait it out a bit before
purchasing an E1: to see if a shakedown was in order. Kept my fingers
crossed that this wouldn't be another Satellit 800, in that regard.
But from all indicators I've seen thus far, the E1 seems consistently
solid in build quality (thankfully).
D Peter Maus
Hmmm....Ok....then how about we just send back Shatner. That'll teach
'em.
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA
>
>
Rob
them....Sorry if you cant understand that but at least someone gets some use
out of them??
Are you really a "Typical Troll" Brian?
"Brian Denley" <b.de...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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dxAce
D Peter Maus wrote:
Good idea.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
clifto
I say send back Celine Dion.
--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.
John S.
The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.
The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue. Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers. Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.
The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.
junius
John S. wrote:
> The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.
Indeed, geography as such isn't an issue. The fact that the product is
being put together by a manufacturer other than Tecsun-Degen could well
be.
> The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
> Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
> quality components is really the issue.
Shifting operations to Bharat Electronics Ltd could well be a part of
an Eton/Grundig insistence on a higher level of quality control where
this model is concerned.
>Their track record of
> haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
> not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers.
Thus far, their track record with quality control in this unit seems to
be a break from the ineptitude with the Satellite 800. Admitedly, the
delays on the release of the E1, on the other hand, were annoying and
certainly gave reason for pause.
>Maybe
> things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
> point.
Admittedly, the degree of risk aversion varies from consumer to
consumer, so I can understand if someone in the market for a premium
portable decided to wait it out a bit longer on this one. I've done so
myself, despite the fact that I was quite impressed by the sample I
borrowed from a friend.
> The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
> but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
> in the 800 project.
Maybe the Tecsun-Degen group are capable of putting together a decent
under $100 throwaway...I don't really know. Given their track record
in partnership with Eton/Grundig, I'd be extremely cautious with regard
to any premium set that they might put out.
Junius
John S.
I've got a $60.00 Degen DE1103 that has had no QC problems - it works
every time. Indeed it is finshed well and the parts fit tightly. At
half the price of a Sony it is a steal. The memory system has some
limitations inherent with the design, but it works.
OTOH I have an Eton hand crank generator radio that feels downright
flimsy considering it sells for $40.00 Whether it is of Chinese or
Indian origin isn't as important as the wobbly grindy crank generator
which feels like it could come apart at the wrong time.
>
> Junius
junius
John S. wrote:
> The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios
Could well be that I'm just not too up on my Chinese manufacturers, but
aren't Tecsun and Degen two different companies? Are they together
part of some larger entity?
Junius
RHF
DeWayne
<cuh...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Or Glenn Ford or Guy Lombardo and his Royal Canadians or Marty McFly.
> cuhulin
>
HEY, I liked Glenn Ford!
junius
junius
But seriously, Degen and Tecsun are two different companies, aren't
they? Degen being the ones who make increasingly decent, if basic,
compact portables at fairly low prices? While Tecsun are the folks who
partner with Eton to produce some of the overpriced, uninspiring stuff
we find in Radio Shack (e.g. E10 & E100 & the windup toy radio)?
David Eduardo
> The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
> R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.
>