(OT) 4 Dead in Ohio.
Drifter
was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
Drifter...
--
"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
- former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
barnegatdx
Tragic
U.S Troops opened fire on un armed civilians . . .
& then the SpinMeisters came out
barnegatdx
Link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Aftermath_and_long-term_effects
The photo has been modified.
SWL-2010
SWL-2010
"SWL-2010" <swl-...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message news:...
I live in Ohio, I'll never forget that day or that lousy excuse for a
governor we had in this State. He was a disgrace. I returned from my second
tour in 1969 Drifter.
Peace.
m II
Terry Norman, an FBI informant, was claimed to have fired the first
shot. That's like the missing compound door evidence at Waco.
You can't expect more from the gun toting government android than from
the politicians. They all appear to be lying *ssholes.
mike
Bob Campbell
news:e9aa9d80-c7a9-49e3...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
What has been modified?
RHF
Thinking Honestly about the Kent State Shootings :
Maybe -if- You read the entire Time-Line you would 'see'
the {Accidental} Kent State Shootings in perspective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Timeline
http://members.aol.com/nrbooks/chronol.htm
Legal Action against the National Guardsmen : Dismissed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Legal_action_against_the_guardsmen
There are Two-Sides to most Stories and much of what
really happened at Kent State has taken on the aspects
of an Urban Legend promoted by Left-Wing {Uber-Liberal}
Political Cadre to re-write History.
OBTW - The Left-Wing {Uber-Liberal} Political Cadre are
about setting-up another Series of Protests {Riots} like
the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago;
in Denver 2008 for the Democratic National Convention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention
1968 Democratic National Convention "Protests" Chicago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention_Protests
RIOTS ! Violence in the Streets by Political Cadre !
-Note- The Liberal Media -proclaimed-
CHICAGO EXAMINED: ANATOMY OF A "POLICE RIOT"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,844633,00.html
2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, CO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_National_Convention
Rev. Al Sharpton, who had warned of "trouble" at the convention if the
nomination was wrested away from Barack Obama by superdelegates.
"Re-Create 68" in Denver - http://www.recreate68.org/
{a la 1968 in Chicago} http://www.recreate68.org/
Welcome to the "Re-create 68" website, your virtual
Activists' Convergence Center for the Denver Democratic
National Convention of 2008.
http://www.recreate68.org/media_communique_2.pdf
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/02/rosen-limbaugh-neednt-worry/
Notice the "Clinched Fist" {Revolutionary Struggle} of the
Communist Propagandists being used. - http://www.plp.org/
http://www.depaulasu.net/fists-and-star1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/wobblie/red_fist01.jpg
the truth will set you free - be free ~ RHF
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dxAce
Bob Campbell wrote:
The photo that appears in the upper right of the page was modified when originally
published to remove the fence stake/post that appears to come out of Mary Ann Vecchio's
head.
Bob Campbell
news:481DE66C...@milestones.com...
So then the photo above is the original and has NOT been modified, correct?
The stake is clearly visible.
barnegatdx
> Bob Campbell wrote:
> > "barnegatdx" <barnega...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:e9aa9d80-c7a9-49e3...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> > > On May 4, 9:47 am, Drifter <drif...@pgh.net> wrote:
> > >> May 4, 1970. try to remember, Kent State. i, myself,
>
> > >> was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
>
> > >> Drifter...
> > >> --
> > >> "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
> > >> and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
> > >> - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
> > >> unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
>
> > > Link.
>
>
> > > The photo has been modified.
>
> > What has been modified?
>
> The photo that appears in the upper right of the page was modified when originally
> published to remove the fence stake/post that appears to come out of Mary Ann Vecchio's
> head.
- and also the large pool of blood from the person on the ground.
Tragic.
barnegatdx
> On May 4, 6:47 am, Drifter <drif...@pgh.net> wrote:
>
> > May 4, 1970. try to remember, Kent State. i, myself,
>
> > was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
>
> > Drifter...
> > --
> > "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
> > and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
> > - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
> > unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
>
> Thinking Honestly about the Kent State Shootings :
>
< SNIP>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
Some of the students who were shot were protesting the American
invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a
television address on April 30. However, other students who were shot
were merely walking nearby or observing the protest at a distance.[6]
[7]
> the truth will set you free - be free ~ RHF
> .
- So, Honestly whats your point here, Roy?
.
SWL-2010
the killing of college students. Of course, they always default back to the
"left". They're beneath contempt.
RHF
BarnegatDX,
Simply that the National Guardsmen 'paniced' as a result
of the Protester's {Rioters} Aggressive Actions.
-fwiw- I was setting in a SF Bay Area "JC" Class Room
when it happen and news closed down the school for
the day.
This was not a 'planned' Action -but- it could have been
predicted as a potential outcome of placing these Ohio
National Guardsmen who were Un-Trained for Urban
Crowd and Riot Control in this Critical set of conditions.
Urban Riot Police Trained and Skilled in Protest and
Crowd Control should have been used and drawn from
varrious Cities in the State of Ohio to deal with the
Protesters {Rioters} .
The 'panic' of the National Guardsmen resulted in what
was Indiscriminate Shooting and the Accidental Deaths.
Today the Next Generation of Protesters {Rioters}
come with Filled Backpacks and Masks :
Ready to Do War On Society and Battle with the Police.
IMHO - Denver Colorado will become a Burning Hell -if-
Hillary "Rotten" Clinton Steals the Democrat Party's
Presidential Nomination from Barack "?" Obama. ~ RHF
.
barnegatdx
Oh Please !
RHF
- Oh Please !
BarnegaDX - No It Does Not Please Me [.]
Like It Or Not - Reality Sucks ! ~ RHF
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RHF
> "SWL-2010" <swl-2...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message news:...
>
> > "Drifter" <drif...@pgh.net> wrote in message
> >news:bpWdnfTXQKfpI4DV...@earthlink.com...
> >> May 4, 1970. try to remember, Kent State. i, myself,
>
> >> was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
>
> >> Drifter...
> >> --
> >> "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
> >> and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
> >> - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
> >> unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
- I live in Ohio, I'll never forget that day or that lousy excuse
- for a governor we had in this State. He was a disgrace.
- I returned from my second tour in 1969 Drifter.
- Peace.
Drifter,
The People of Ohio Elected JimRhodes Twice as Govenor
and then Re-Elected Him for two more terms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Rhodes
thank you for your service & peace be unto you - amen ~ RHF
.
RHF
> "barnegatdx" <barnega...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
SWL-2010,
Did you actually Read what I Wrote ?
Thinking Honestly about the Kent State Shootings :
There are Two-Sides to most Stories . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/362baa4608cc95ec
Simply that the National Guardsmen 'paniced' as a result
of the Protester's {Rioters} Aggressive Actions.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c94daebd001e4e7d
~ RHF
.
Drifter
> On May 4, 1:42 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On May 4, 10:13 am, barnegatdx <barnega...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Thinking Honestly about the Kent State Shootings :
>>> < SNIP>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
>>> Some of the students who were shot were protesting the American
>>> invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a
>>> television address on April 30. However, other students who were shot
>>> were merely walking nearby or observing the protest at a distance.[6]
>>> [7]
>>>> the truth will set you free - be free ~ RHF
>>>> .
>>> - So, Honestly whats your point here, Roy?
>>> .
>> BarnegatDX,
>>
>> Simply that the National Guardsmen 'paniced' as a result
>> of the Protester's {Rioters} Aggressive Actions.
>>
>>
>> Ready to Do War On Society and Battle with the Police.
>>
>> IMHO - Denver Colorado will become a Burning Hell -if-
>> Hillary "Rotten" Clinton Steals the Democrat Party's
>> Presidential Nomination from Barack "?" Obama. ~ RHF
>> .
>
> Oh Please !
>
Please is right. looks like i kicked a bees nest. Roy loves to
pick on the Clintons. as i remember, he voted for the bush-crime-
family. so, i expect nothing less from him. i'm not throwing stones
here, just put out a reminder for the Kent State shootings. they
panicked is a poor excuse for the dead. i sure don't want them
next to me in combat. but, believe what you want; the neocoms have
a way of changing history. if you tell the lie enough times people
want to believe it. just ask bush.
SWL-2010
"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:bfc006a8-2e1f-493f...@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
SWL-2010,
You gotta' be kidding?
BDK
@woh.rr.com says...
Yes, old Rhodes was a POS, wasn't he?
My sister's ex boyfriend was at Kent, walking along, minding his own
business, when the shooting started. A bullet missed him by about a
foot, and he was very shaken up. Even more so when he found out he knew
one of the victims.
The whole thing was a disaster. An even bigger one was that nobody went
to jail for it.
BDK
RHF
> "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
- - SWL-2010,
- - Did you actually Read what I Wrote ?
- You gotta' be kidding?
There is NO 'reason' for Dialog then. ~ RHF
.
Thinking Honestly about the Kent State Shootings :
There are Two-Sides to most Stories . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/362baa4608cc95ec
.
Simply that the National Guardsmen 'paniced' as a result
of the Protester's {Rioters} Aggressive Actions.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c94daebd001e4e7d
.
RHF
> In article <481dd8c3$0$5133$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, swl-2010
> @woh.rr.com says...
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> > "SWL-2010" <swl-2...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message news:...
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> > > "Drifter" <drif...@pgh.net> wrote in message
> > >news:bpWdnfTXQKfpI4DV...@earthlink.com...
> > >> May 4, 1970. try to remember, Kent State. i, myself,
>
> > >> was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
>
> > >> Drifter...
> > >> --
> > >> "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
> > >> and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
> > >> - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
> > >> unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
>
> > I live in Ohio, I'll never forget that day or that lousy excuse for a
> > governor we had in this State. He was a disgrace. I returned from my second
> > tour in 1969 Drifter.
> > Peace.
>
> Yes, old Rhodes was a POS, wasn't he?
>
> My sister's ex boyfriend was at Kent, walking along, minding his own
> business, when the shooting started. A bullet missed him by about a
> foot, and he was very shaken up. Even more so when he found out he knew
> one of the victims.
- The whole thing was a disaster.
- An even bigger one was that nobody went to jail for it.
-
- BDK
BDK,
KENT STATE : WHO WHEN TO JAIL ?
http://www.may41970.com/trials.htm
In September 1970, 24 Students and one Faculty Member
were Indicted on Charges connected with the May 4
Demonstration; or the ROTC Building Fire 3-Days before.
THE CRIME THAT WAS KENT STATE 4 MAY 1970
The real "Crime" was putting the wrong people;
in the wrong place; at the wrong time.
http://dept.kent.edu/sociology/lewis/lewihen.htm
The National Guardsmen should not have to 'pay' for the
Mistakes of those above them. Starting with the Governor,
the Mayor and the National Guard Officers who lead them.
.
But Then Again -if- the National Guardsmen were not
Trained in Civilian Protest Crowd Monitoring and Urban
Riot Control : Then most likely their Line Officers were
also lacking in this Specific type of Mission Training.
.
Mistakes and Accidents Happen When You Don't Train
for the Mission -and- PEOPLE DIE [.]
SWL-2010
"BDK" <B...@magicsteel.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2287d05af...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <481dd8c3$0$5133$4c36...@roadrunner.com>, swl-2010
> @woh.rr.com says...
>>
>> "SWL-2010" <swl-...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message news:...
>> >
>> > "Drifter" <dri...@pgh.net> wrote in message
>> > news:bpWdnfTXQKfpI4DV...@earthlink.com...
>> >> May 4, 1970. try to remember, Kent State. i, myself,
>> >>
>> >> was just into my second tour of VN. tragic, never forget.
>> >>
>> >> Drifter...
>> >> --
>> >> "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
>> >> and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
>> >> - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
>> >> unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I live in Ohio, I'll never forget that day or that lousy excuse for a
>> governor we had in this State. He was a disgrace. I returned from my
>> second
>> tour in 1969 Drifter.
>> Peace.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yes, old Rhodes was a POS, wasn't he?
Yes he was.
>
> My sister's ex boyfriend was at Kent, walking along, minding his own
> business, when the shooting started. A bullet missed him by about a
> foot, and he was very shaken up. Even more so when he found out he knew
> one of the victims.
>
> The whole thing was a disaster. An even bigger one was that nobody went
> to jail for it.
>
> BDK
...and even worse are the people who try to excuse it away.
SWL-2010
Not with anyone like you.
BDK
BDK
@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, rhf-new...@pacbell.net says...
I agree, the guardsmen themselves shouldn't have been charged, higher
ups should have.
> .
> But Then Again -if- the National Guardsmen were not
> Trained in Civilian Protest Crowd Monitoring and Urban
> Riot Control : Then most likely their Line Officers were
> also lacking in this Specific type of Mission Training.
> .
> Mistakes and Accidents Happen When You Don't Train
> for the Mission -and- PEOPLE DIE [.]
That's right.
BDK
cuh...@webtv.net
Redwood,Mississippi.(Redwood is near Vicksburg, in Warren County) At
least two people killed, at least four people seriously burned, some
other people injured.A tornado was sighted in or near Burnsville in
Tishomingo County.Eight Belles broke both front ankles and had to be put
away.Just another day. www.devilfinder.com Paper Mill explosion
Redwood Mississippi
cuhulin