Whose Country is This?
Chas. Chan
sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens,
half a million of whom now reside there.
Arizona acted because the U.S. government has abdicated its
constitutional duty to protect the states from invasion and refuses to
enforce America’s immigration laws.
“We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to
act,” said Gov. Jan Brewer. “But decades of inaction and misguided
policy have created an unacceptable situation.”
We have a crisis in Arizona because we have a failed state in
Washington.
What is the response of Barack Obama, who took an oath to see to it
that federal laws are faithfully executed?
He is siding with the law-breakers. He is pandering to the ethnic
lobbies. He is not berating a Mexican regime that aids and abets this
invasion of the country of which he is commander in chief. Instead, he
attacks the government of Arizona for trying to fill a gaping hole in
law enforcement left by his own dereliction of duty.
He has denounced Arizona as “misguided.” He has called on the Justice
Department to ensure that Arizona’s sheriffs and police do not violate
anyone’s civil rights. But he has said nothing about the rights of the
people of Arizona who must deal with the costs of having hundreds of
thousands of lawbreakers in their midst.
How’s that for Andrew Jackson-style leadership?
Obama has done everything but his duty to enforce the law.
Undeniably, making it a state as well as a federal crime to be in this
country illegally, and requiring police to check the immigration
status of anyone they have a “reasonable suspicion” is here illegally,
is tough and burdensome. But what choice did Arizona have?
The state has a fiscal crisis caused in part by the burden of
providing schooling and social welfare for illegals and their
families, who consume far more in services than they pay in taxes and
who continue to pour in. Even John McCain is now calling for 3,000
troops on the border.
Police officers and a prominent rancher have been murdered. There have
been kidnappings believed to be tied to the Mexican drug cartels.
There are nightly high-speed chases through the barrios where innocent
people are constantly at risk.
If Arizona does not get control of the border and stop the invasion,
U.S. citizens will stop coming to Arizona and will begin to depart, as
they are already fleeing California.
What we are talking about here is the Balkanization and breakup of a
nation into ethnic enclaves. A country that cannot control its borders
isn’t really a country anymore, Ronald Reagan reminded us.
The tasks that Arizonans are themselves undertaking are ones that
belong by right, the Constitution and federal law to the Border
Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Homeland Security.
Arizona has been compelled to assume the feds’ role because the feds
won’t do their job. And for that dereliction of duty the buck stops on
the desk of the president of the United States.
Why is Obama paralyzed? Why does he not enforce the law, even if he
dislikes it, by punishing the businessmen who hire illegals and by
sending the 12 million to 20 million illegals back home? President
Eisenhower did it. Why won’t he?
Because he is politically correct. Because he owes a big debt to the
Hispanic lobby that helped deliver two-thirds of that vote in 2008.
Though most citizens of Hispanic descent in Arizona want the border
protected and the laws enforced, the Hispanic lobby demands that the
law be changed.
Fair enough. But the nation rose up as one to reject the “path-to-
citizenship” — i.e., amnesty — that the 2007 plan of George W. Bush,
McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama envisioned.
Al Sharpton threatens to go to Phoenix and march in the streets
against the new Arizona law. Let him go.
Let us see how many African-Americans, who are today frozen out of the
8 million jobs held by illegal aliens that might otherwise go to them
or their children, will march to defend an invasion for which they are
themselves paying the heaviest price.
Last year, while Americans were losing a net of 5 million jobs, the
U.S. government — Bush and Obama both — issued 1,131,000 green cards
to legal immigrants to come and take the jobs that did open up, a
flood of immigrants equaled in only four other years in our history.
What are we doing to our own people?
Whose country is this, anyway?
America today has an establishment that, because it does not like the
immigration laws, countenances and condones wholesale violation of
those laws.
Nevertheless, under those laws, the U.S. government is obligated to
deport illegal aliens and punish businesses that knowingly hire them.
This is not an option. It is an obligation.
Can anyone say Barack Obama is meeting that obligation?
http://buchanan.org/blog/whose-country-is-this-3955
The Arizona Uproar
Listening to the national uproar, you'd be forgiven for thinking that
Arizona has marched into the civil rights apocalypse with its new
state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.
Last Friday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed SB1070, making it a
crime to be in the state illegally and requiring cops, where
"reasonable suspicion" exists, to determine a person's legal status.
Rev. Al Sharpton is promising to come to Arizona to march, the New
York Times says that the state has gone "off the deep end," and the
Nazi references are flying. Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony likened
SB1070 to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques."
Riding the noise for political advantage, President Obama is summoning
his Justice Department to look into the matter, saying that the law
would "undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as
Americans."
But 70 percent of Arizona residents support the law, according to
Rasmussen.
What's going on here? Do we know something the rest of the country
doesn't?
Actually, we do. Context is everything, and it'd be nice if the
national media provided some, rather than simply slamming Arizona as a
redneck haven filled with nativists and bubbas with a hankering for
racial profiling.
An estimated 500,000 illegal aliens live in Arizona, and many are
decent folks, to be sure. But the border is still wide open, and many
more are coming. Last year in Border Patrol's 262-mile-wide Tucson
Sector, agents arrested 241,000 illegal aliens, a drop of more than
130,000 from 2007.
It sounds great until you understand that gotaways outnumber arrests
by three to one.
Does the country realize this, or have the people bought Janet
Napolitano's political fairy tale that border security has been
"transformed" from where we were in 2007?
As Obama lectures Arizona, citizens here await his decision on an
urgent request to send three thousand National Guard troops to the
border. Senators John McCain and Jon Kyl recently asked for soldiers,
as did Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, to bring some
security to American citizens being hammered by cross-border smugglers
and thugs.
Here's an important bit of context: This isn't your father's illegal
immigration, when polite farm workers offered to do chores in return
for some water and a sandwich as they walked north. Today, the drug
cartels have taken over the people-smuggling business. They own the
trails into the country and dominate the land, the same way urban
gangs control neighborhoods
Any group wanting in has to deal with them, and the going rate is
$2,500 per person. If you don't have the cash, the cartel coyote will
offer to bring you in for free if you carry his dope. As Cochise
County Sheriff Larry Dever testified to the Senate Homeland Security
Committee last week, most of the groups coming up now have a gun
behind them.
Along the Chiricahua Corridor smuggling route north and east of
Douglas, Arizona, residents have been screaming for some time about
break-ins, threats, intimidation, vandalism, and home invasions. But
the feds did nothing to keep citizens safe. Instead, they talked
amnesty. Then the inevitable happened.
On March 27, Cochise County rancher Rob Krentz was murdered on his
land, presumably by a drug smuggler. The death occurred on a well-
known drug trail, and trackers followed the killer's prints back into
Mexico. He is still at large.
Now, I can't argue with those who say that SB1070 has some provisions
that smack of desperation -- such as making it a crime to stop your
car to pick up a day laborer or to enter a stopped car to get
temporary work. That sounds impossible to enforce.
But critics also say that it will have no impact on besieged residents
of southern Arizona, and I disagree. It could help.
We have a huge problem with crooks coming up from Mexico to our cities
and towns, committing crimes, and bolting back south of the border.
Not long ago, I wrote a story that backtracked the records of two of
these border coyotes and found that between them, they'd been arrested
and released by either law enforcement or the courts a total of 35
times.
One was let go after a traffic stop, and the other had worked
construction in Phoenix for years. If this law had been in effect, the
police might've been able to get them off the street before they were
able to lead more groups into southern Arizona, break into homes, and
frighten citizens.
Civil rights? What about the civil right of American citizens to drive
up to their homes at night and have some reasonable assurance that no
one is inside?
On March 31, four hundred people gathered outside the one-room Apache
School to tell their elected reps what it's like to live in smuggler-
occupied territory. The meeting was held there, in the cold, open air,
in part because the nearest place to host a group that size inside was
seventy round-trip miles away, and these folks didn't feel comfortable
leaving their homes for that length of time.
They live by a rule of thumb: If you leave your house empty, it will
be occupied by illegals or drug smugglers. We're not talking just
about homes five miles from the international line. We're talking
about homes up to sixty miles north of the border.
Racial profiling doesn't matter much when you're in a fight to
preserve your way of life and keep your family and property safe. Let
me give you a different perspective on racial profiling. Now, when
Border Patrol chases down and arrests illegals south of I-10,
everybody says, "Atta boy. Good police work."
But if these crossers put a toe north of I-10, they're home free.
Except for Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, nobody is looking for
them, and if you do, it's racial profiling.
The farther you get from the line, the more people want to make this
problem about race. It's the ground the left wants to fight on because
it's so effective. Political correctness shuts people up and keeps the
border open.
Arizona has had enough and seen enough. This bill, admittedly flawed,
motivated in part by anger and frustration, is an effort to step in
and do something about a serious national problem on our southern
border that grows more dangerous all the time.
But the national media largely ignore it because it offers up the
wrong victims and the wrong politics. They don't send reporters out to
Arizona get the story, to walk the smuggling trails, to sit with
beleaguered Americans at their kitchen tables and understand the
torment their lives have become.
Instead, they adopt the preening pose of the self-righteous, screaming
from a safe distance about the bubbas. All 70 percent of them.
It's more fun than context.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/the_arizona_uproar.html
Spartakus
> With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered
> sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens,
> half a million of whom now reside there.
Nope. SB 1070 does not address border security at all, nor does it
empower local authorities to deport anyone.
Sid9
"Spartakus" <spar...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:967b76ce-f9d1-438e...@y6g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
.
I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people?
Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers
will fire all of the half million illegals.
Cicero Venatio
> .
> .
> I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people?
>
> Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal
> employers will fire all of the half million illegals.
>
not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial
discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by
Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these
people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can
you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the
e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the
database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system
where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not.
When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that
go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no
access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a
picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social
security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and
how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there
is a picture to go with it?
Sid9
"Cicero Venatio" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v5mdnUWt67ztH0rW...@earthlink.com...
False.
You will not be sued for complying with the law.
You document your activity as an employer.
Get the crooks who exploit the illegals and the illegals will go home.
Probably only need a few widely publicized examples and the problem
disappears.
The "real ID" law was passed and many states have opted out.
Libertarians oppose, what in effect, is an internal passport.
The lax enforcement against employers during the eight years of the bush,jr
administration was a favor to his friends in the SW
Kevin Alfred Strom
The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a
national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from
any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's
percentage of the already existing American population), and a
race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of
1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated
set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes.
Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be
able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing
problems, are they?
I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the
invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they
have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is
"what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go
home and watch "Dancing With the Stars."
For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the
criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will
instantaneously become "legal."
And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that
this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people
and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without
honesty, no solution is possible.
With all good wishes,
Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
Sid9
"Kevin Alfred Strom" <kevin...@revilo-oliver.com> wrote in message
news:hr8b3h$cnq$1...@tioat.net...
"...The Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed by the 1943 Magnuson Act, which
permitted Chinese nationals already residing in the country to become
naturalized citizens. It also allowed a national quota of 105 Chinese
immigrants per year, although large scale Chinese immigration did not occur
until the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965. Despite the fact that the
exclusion act was repealed in 1943, the law in California that Chinese
people were not allowed to marry whites was not repealed until 1948...."
bpnjensen
wrote:
> And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that
> this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people
> and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without
> honesty, no solution is possible.
You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians?
Kevin Alfred Strom
Yes indeed.
And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame
as a people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the
Washington regime that all peoples should learn.
The Republic of Lakotah, which declared its independence from the
Evil Empire some years ago, shows that Russell Means and his people
are far advanced in their thinking and morality compared to most
European-Americans. My hope is that we will catch up soon.
With all good wishes,
Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
Cicero Venatio
You've never been sued have you? If I knew your real name, where you
live, I could show you personally how easy it is to do. Then you'd be
"educated" on how the real world works.
dave
> snip
Nobody on the TV has interviewed the Border Patrol. I have not seen one
second of footage of a Border Patrol/DHS official discussing this crap.
There are already plenty of reasons to avoid spending money in Arizona.
This is just another one.
lab~rat >:-)
And especially the people using drugs that bring these people in.
They should step up the drug enforcement big time.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
dave
The "Indians" were invaders from Asia. They killed off the mammoths and
tigers.
lab~rat >:-)
<jazz...@hotmail.com> puked:
Not to mention, you are advised NOT to ask if someone is in the
country legally upon hiring them because it could be considered
discriminatory. How fucked up is that?
lab~rat >:-)
What land do you live in? In the US there are professional minorities
that make a living doing just that. And to say that you "will not be
sued" for anything demonstrates your tenuous grasp of the reality of
the legal system. You can be sued for pretty much anything.
>
>You document your activity as an employer.
>
>Get the crooks who exploit the illegals and the illegals will go home.
>
>Probably only need a few widely publicized examples and the problem
>disappears.
>
>The "real ID" law was passed and many states have opted out.
>
>Libertarians oppose, what in effect, is an internal passport.
>
>The lax enforcement against employers during the eight years of the bush,jr
>administration was a favor to his friends in the SW
>
>
--
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
Sid9
.
Judges frown on frivolous lawsuits...it might be a costly endeavor.
cuh...@webtv.net
So were Horses, untill they got all hunted down and eaten up and then
Horses showed up again by the Spaniards.
Over seventy five percent (at least seventy six percent) of Arizonans
Approve of the new Bill.The ones who don't Approve are those damn
Illegal Aliens CRIMMINALS and those damn fed govt CRIMMINALS.
Look at how Mexico treats Illegal Aliens.
http://www.libertypost.org
cuhulin
bpnjensen
This is partially debatable, but I won't go into paleobiology and
paleoclimatology at this point. They did get here by purely natural
means, which allowed not only humans but many other species to advance
their ranges. What Nature allows, I don't question.
Bruce
bpnjensen
wrote:
> bpnjensen wrote:
> > On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom <kevin.st...@revilo-oliver.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that
> >> this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people
> >> and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without
> >> honesty, no solution is possible.
>
> > You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians?
>
> Yes indeed.
>
> And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame
> as a people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the
> Washington regime that all peoples should learn.
>
> The Republic of Lakotah, which declared its independence from the
> Evil Empire some years ago, shows that Russell Means and his people
> are far advanced in their thinking and morality compared to most
> European-Americans. My hope is that we will catch up soon.
>
A good and honest answer. I appreciate this.
Bruce
lab~rat >:-)
Yet every day, courthouses across America are slap-ass loaded with
them...
pyjamarama
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:45:00 -0700, Cicero Venatio
>
> <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >You've never been sued have you? If I knew your real name, where you
> >live, I could show you personally how easy it is to do. Then you'd be
> >"educated" on how the real world works.
>
> them this, Filedud
Better yet, show them THIS:
GARY ROSELLES (aka "filb…@nut.com", today) left-wing sociopath and
author of the following “views” on race, homosexuality, immigrants,
death-threats and, lest we forget, killing govt. officials and teenage
girls -- IN HIS OWN WORDS:
"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles
"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore.
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source
“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source
What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&
"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance
of Race Loyalty
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793
"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)
"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick
to their own kind"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source
"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell
"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source
"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson
"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles
"Who Dat? MOCKS BLACK SPEECH", “Mocking Black Eubonics” by
smor...@board.ne -- Roselles moronically restates his racist concept
that African-Americans talk in “BLACK SPEECH” and “Black Eubonics[sic]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/9e7e19b978af9a2d?hl=en&dmode=source
"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."
"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source
Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source
"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
GARY ROSELLES (filb…@nut.com, today) agrees with AND defends his
racist prick buddy EVERLOON, thusly...
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:58:07 -0800 (PST) everonlyn...@yahoo.com wrote
and on Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:12:58 -0800 (PST), knicklas@click (Gary
Roselles) DEFENDED:
"Yeah, they sold out their own in an attempt to be a minority in the
GOP so they could achieve to places they never would have elsewhere.
Ironically, Ward Connerly and Thomas Sowell say they are against race
quotas, and they also say they are against political correctness.
Since they are liars and scandals, and don't like political
correctness, I will call them niggers right here and now.
NIGGERS,
NIGGERS, NIGGERS."
As if they shared the same racist brain, Gary concurred, thusly:
What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&
"Both are traitors to their race" -- White Supremacist, Race Loyalist
Gary Roselles slurs the acclaimed, distinguished African-American
scholars Dr. Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793
"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)
"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick
to their own kind"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source
>
>
>
> >=============================================================
> > "File of the Dud" <fileofthed...@earthlink.net>
> > Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:02:20 GMT
> >*-*-* *-*-*
> >"FUCKING ME.
> > Because I'm never, ever gonna feel right again
> > because every time I turn around, I got some
> > lying fuck like Hanson or Erb playing me,
> > robbing me, fucking me around somehow some way.
>
> > I just wish I could find some fucking way to
> > get myself killed so at least my wife gets
> > the insurance money and I don't have
> > deal with lying fucks like Zepp
> > every ninety fucking days,
> > in the workplace, robbing my house,
> > whining and whipping up more lies
> > to get money out of me."
>
> >"Fuck. I can't take another twenty years of this bullshit."
Joe from Kokomo
> And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame as a
> people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the Washington
> regime that all peoples should learn.
Sadly, this is nothing new.
The "Lady in Red" said she would blow the whistle on John Dillinger if
the government wouldn't deport her back to Romania.
Guess who got a free trip to Romania even though she held up her end of
the bargain.
We lied to the people we were supposed to support for the Bay of Pigs
invasion.
We screwed the Hmong for their help in the Viet Nam war.
We screwed the Kurds TWICE with broken promises.
It seems the word of the government isn't worth very much.
...and the beat goes on.
cuh...@webtv.net
right.
Nearly 2 Feet of Snow Falls in NY, New England.Sierra Mountains recently
got some Snow.Not too many years ago, Miami,Florida got some Snowflakes,
in April.
''global warming'/
http://www.libertypost.org
cuhulin
dave
dave
> Camels used to be native in America.
> So were Horses, untill they got all hunted down and eaten up and then
> Horses showed up again by the Spaniards.
>
Wrong on two counts.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
dave
DEFCON 88
oliver.com> wrote:
> Cicero Venatio wrote:
> > S
> >> .
> >> .
> >> I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people?
>
> >> Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal
> >> employers will fire all of the half million illegals.
>
> > -----------
> > not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial
> > discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by
> > Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these
> > people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can
> > you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the
> > e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the
> > database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system
> > where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not.
> > When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that
> > go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no
> > access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a
> > picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social
> > security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and
> > how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there
> > is a picture to go with it?
>
> national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from
> any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's
> percentage of the already existing American population), and a
> race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of
> 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated
> set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes.
>
> Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be
> able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing
> problems, are they?
>
> I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the
> invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they
> have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is
> "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go
> home and watch "Dancing With the Stars."
>
> For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the
> criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will
> instantaneously become "legal."
>
> this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people
> and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without
> honesty, no solution is possible.
>
>
> Kevin Alfred Strom.
>
> - Show quoted text -
>
Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely
admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth
is
that this is a non-White vs White issue, as are so many other
political
issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize
for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling
cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially)
left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A
RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they
founded and built, and will be persecuted to near extinction.
Sid9
"DEFCON 88" <DEFC...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:060f77ce-67d1-461a...@r11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize
> for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling
> cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially)
> left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A
> RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they
> who are just itching to destroy the USA.
.
.
A classic example of fear and paranoia!
Because he/she is uneducated and incapable of doing anything useful, he/she
fears these illegal immigrant farm workers
cuh...@webtv.net
mortgage,,,, you gonna get free health care insurance,,,,, you gonna get
this,,,,,, you gonna get that,,,,,,,,, Change baby, Change!
The only kind of Change most people are seeing nowadays is one or two
cents worth of pocket Change in their pockets, if that! Nowadays, if
they see a Penny laying on the sidewalk of a parking lot, they stop and
pick it up and put it in their pocket,,,, pocket Change! and govmint
will Steal that from them too!
cuhulin
bpnjensen
(Raising hand) I have a question - whoever said anyone was gonna get
free any of these things? I pay close attention, and I don't remember
any of that...except from conservatives who CLAIMED somebody said it.
I did, however, pay a lot LESS tax last year than before. I was taken
aback too, because not only do I deserve to pay more to support the
important things provided by government, but if I don't, many things
normal Americans take for granted (and things that I personally value)
will collapse.
Bruce
All Yankee
fighting for the American way, liberty for all. This country belongs to
those who wish to see it prosper and keep it strong. Too bad the
government gets in the way at times.
If someone comes in through the back door, and tries to destroy my home and
any part of my way of life, then it's war.
Will the teary eyed ones have any compassion left when everything they've
come to believe in or work for has been taken away by groups such as the
Muslims or Mexican bloodlines? Not likely but it may already be too late
to stop the influx.
Has the spirit of 1776, of those willing to fight for their country, long
since been washed away in a haze of drugs and untaught history lessons.
"Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote in message
news:hrcprn$r7k$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
cuh...@webtv.net
is proposing a similar bill too.All Fifty U.S.States need a Bill like
that.Against Illegal Aliens.Illegal Aliens are NOT Immigrants.
cuhulin
Sid9
The government just saved every American's ass with quick decisive action to
prevent another Republican Great Depression.
Mexicans are a trivial problem.
Scapegoating them for Republican mismanagement, since Reagan, is only a
cover-up for the damage they've done to all of us.
There's no work here fewer Mexicans are coming in and many are leaving....no
big expensive fence needed.
.
.
.
"All Yankee" <dahmthei...@usa.com> wrote in message
news:U3nCn.49705$0_7....@newsfe25.iad...
dave
>>
>
> Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely
> admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is
> that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political
> issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize
> for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling
> cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially)
> left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A
> RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they
> founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites
> who are just itching to destroy the USA.
Well, what do you expect? Are you one of those who maintain we did
negro slaves a favor by introducing them to our wonderful Western
Civilization? Twisted Europeans and their collective megalomania have
laid waste to the planet.
cuh...@webtv.net
a free house,,,,, you gonna get a free wide screen tv set,,,,, you gonna
get free chicken mcnuggets,,,,,,, you gonna get free everything you
want, baby!
http://reason.com/blog/2008/10/31/obama-to-promise-free-gas-free
You gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get
free,,,,,,,,
Those STUPID!!! MOFOS ACTUALLY BELIEVE ALL OF THOSE LIES!!!
Former KMOX Saint Louis,Missouri Radio talk show host, Jim White ~ YOU
CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!!!!!!
I used to listen to Jim White every night, from Midnight to 5:00 AM
untill he retired.
Jim White is Right.
cuhulin
Somebody Somewhere
> You gonna get free money,,,, you gonna get free gas,,,,,, you gonna get
> a free house,,,,, you gonna get a free wide screen tv set,,,,, you gonna
> get free chicken mcnuggets,,,,,,, you gonna get free everything you
>
> You gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get
> free,,,,,,,,
>
YO MUHFUGGA, GIBS ME MUH FREE OBAMA MUNNY AN SHEEIT, NOAMSAYN?
Somebody Somewhere
> DEFCON 88 wrote:
>
> Well, what do you expect? Are you one of those who maintain we did
> negro slaves a favor by introducing them to our wonderful Western
> Civilization?
>
Hindsight is 20-20, but we'd be much better off today if we simply
left them alone in Africa with flies crawling all over their faces.
Unfortunately, now we're stuck with a permanent class of violent-prone
parasites and criminals with an average 25 point IQ deficit. Lucky us.
cuh...@webtv.net
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m65508&hd=&size=1&l=e
cuhulin
dave
> "Who's country is this?' What a dumass question. Our boys are away
> fighting for the American way, liberty for all.
They are? The "American way" means minding your own business and living
within your means. Not killing everybody in the world and taking their
resources.
dave
They aren't criminals, either.
Kevin Alfred Strom
I do agree with you there. Those used to be the essence of
conservative values, before conservatism was taken over by the
reptilian-looking neocons. They have made America hated more than
ever before and are the best recruiters for al-Qaeda that could
possibly be imagined.
Now the neocons are trying to take over the Tea Party movement,
converting an anti-statist movement into just another front for the
obscenely bloated Zionist-yoked American military machine, which is
arguably the greatest shame of our nation.
With my best,
Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
Kevin Alfred Strom
It astounds me that you can actually believe that.
All of them are criminals in the sense that they are, by definition,
violating our pathetically weak immigration laws.
And we know that -- in addition to those merely running from
incredibly corrupt and criminal governments and impoverished,
wrecked nations -- some of them are on the run because of their
violence and crimes in their homelands, and find it more congenial
to be in the United States when "the heat is on" back home.
Furthermore, we know that 83 per cent. of murder warrants in Phoenix
are for illegal aliens -- and 75 percent of those on their most
wanted list are illegal aliens. So a huge number of these people are
indeed criminals on several levels.
These people also come from a culture that engenders rape on a mass
scale.
It is estimated, according to Tim Johnson of the McClatchy
Newspapers, that _six out of ten_ migrant women is raped in Mexico.
That indicates to me that a huge percentage of the Mestizo
population falls into the criminal category. I don't want them
bringing the culture -- or the genes -- that cause such behavior
into my nation. I don't think it's a good idea for us to become like
them, which is what _will_ happen over time if we permit the
invasion to continue.
Of course, I have absolutely nothing against the immigration of
Spanish-speaking, Spanish-descended people into the United States.
They can come here in unlimited numbers with my blessing. But, as
much as I like them, I don't think we should allow the civilized
Spanish of Central America to send their surplus underclass
population into our nation.
With all good wishes,
Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
bpnjensen
wrote:
> dave wrote:
At the risk of great oversimplification, I think our nation - and all
nations - should pressure the most highly defective governments on the
planet to straighten up their operations and begin to serve their
people instead of their own pockets. The US government isn't perfect
by any means, but I work with people from C. and S. America who claim
that the US is paradise compared to the incredibly corrupt and
disgraceful majority of governments south of the border; and I have no
reason to doubt them.
I am not sure that our immigration laws are that weak right now - I
think they are poorly enforced, however. If fixing the law to enhance
enforcement is proposed I am all for it.
I am greatly conflicted about what to do with the illegal immigrant
people who have already arrived. Sending them back seems cruel;
having them stay here allows us to eat cheap produce; ideally they
could be assimilated into the usual US culture and become contributing
members of society. I cannot say whether this is realistic, as I do
not claim to be a sociologist. OTOH, they are illegal, after all, and
the continuation of that condition is pretty unacceptable. Their
genes do not concern me, I am frankly convinced long ago that people
are fundamentally products of their environment, and that any person
is going to be most strongly influenced by the examples set by their
parents and the society of their peers; but some of the customs and
habits I find quite offensive, especially in regard to their basic
treatment of others - humans and animals (having said that, I find
some of our own European/US customs and habits quite offensive too -
but no need to make matters worse).
Of greatest concern to me, however, is overpopulation, pure and
simple. Not just here, but across the globe. It helps very few
people or the environment, causes great harm for most, and let's face
it, no other large mammal:
1 - was or is 7 billion strong, anywhere, at any time;
2 - has such a gluttony for resources; and
3 - is so incredibly capable of altering the fabric of the biosphere.
The effects are both global and local; and I am greatly concerned
about the US becoming another huge land crushed cheek to cheek with
humans. It ain't healthy for people or anyone else.
Bruce Jensen
cuh...@webtv.net
Mississippi.Carthage (not to be confused with Carthage in Greece or
Tunisia or wherever that one is?) is a little Town, it really is in the
Country, the Country of the Republic of America.I have owned several
chainsaws before, but I never broke any of them, they wore out.I have
always known how and where to find a lawn mower oil drain plug too.I
have been lawn mowing ever since I was about nine years old.
http://www.thecarthaginian.com
cuhulin, the Country boy
cuh...@webtv.net
All Yankee
administering correction where it thinks necessary? Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq,
Korea, etc., etc. I can't see these as minding your own. National
security, not entirely.
Gotta protect the Jew at all costs. Keep that footprint in Israel. Not
for brotherly Jewbee love BUT for American interest in the mid east. I
know, let's mind our own business and let them blow their own asses off the
global map. We're not gaining anything by our involvement anyway, right?
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:4bdac547$0$29652$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
dave
> dave wrote:
>> cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> Arizona Senate Bill 1070.Utah has a similar Bill in the Works and Texas
>>> is proposing a similar bill too.All Fifty U.S.States need a Bill like
>>> that.Against Illegal Aliens.Illegal Aliens are NOT Immigrants.
>>> cuhulin
>>>
>>
>> They aren't criminals, either.
>
>
> It astounds me that you can actually believe that.
>
> All of them are criminals in the sense that they are, by definition,
> violating our pathetically weak immigration laws.
I can be pretty astonishing. The people who hire them are the
criminals. These workers have been invited by stateside consumers.
Arrest them.
bpnjensen
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> > dave wrote:
Yepp.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
dave
It's God's will.
cuh...@webtv.net
leggggggs in Kansassss,,,,,,,///
What kind of bird is this?
///Oh, it's a pretty little bird, my dear, it flys backwards///
It flys backwards?
///Yes, it flys backwards to keep the sand out of it's eyes///
~ W.C.Fields.
cuhulin
DEFCON 88
> Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> > dave wrote:
> >>> Arizona Senate Bill 1070.Utah has a similar Bill in the Works and Texas
> >>> is proposing a similar bill too.All Fifty U.S.States need a Bill like
> >>> that.Against Illegal Aliens.Illegal Aliens are NOT Immigrants.
> >>> cuhulin
>
> >> They aren't criminals, either.
>
> > It astounds me that you can actually believe that.
>
> > All of them are criminals in the sense that they are, by definition,
> > violating our pathetically weak immigration laws.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
>
> I can be pretty astonishing.
>
>
Pretty ignorant is more like it. (Sorry, couldn't resist).
>
> The people who hire them are the
> criminals.
>
I agree, but the illegal immigrants (or whatever you may call them)
are also criminals. They BROKE THE LAW by coming here ILLEGALLY. They
DON'T BELONG HERE.
>
> These workers have been invited by stateside consumers. Arrest them.
>
Yawn. Typical liberal/commie crap. Blame American citizens and make
excuses for the invaders from Mexico et al.
I would add that the criminals in our government who have allowed this
invasion from Mexico to happen in the first place should also be
arrested and tried for treason.
bpnjensen
Typical evasive right-wing crap. If we didn't hire them they wouldn't
come, period. You clearly have idea what treason means, so we can
discount that last comment.
BDK
11g2000prw.googlegroups.com>, bpnj...@yahoo.com says...
Exactly, if there wasn't a "hole" to fill, they wouldn't get work here,
and so why would they come?
> You clearly have idea what treason means, so we can
> discount that last comment.
>
There are a lot of right wingers (and some of the left wingers too)
throw the word treason around all the time, and it almost never really
applies to what they are claiming someone did. But you know, reality
doesn't stop extremists very often anyway. What exactly do they think
the government should do to prevent people from coming into the country?
It's an awfully long border. A wall wouldn't work, they would just
tunnel underneath it, and it would cost an awful lot of money to build
and maintain, and guard. I suppose it would cut down on the number of
them coming in though, at least for a while. But the only rational thing
to do is to make hiring them painful enough that people just won't do it
anymore. I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
It's kind of funny, I ran into two people I haven't seen for a while at
the store yesterday, one was born in the same hospital I was, about 2
years after me, the other guy was born in Mexico. Which one can barely
speak English? Well, the one born here, of course. The other guy doesn't
even have an accent, and he came here at age 11. He told me he's going
to take his citizenship test soon, he's sick of being hassled by the INS
constantly. Every new guy the INS gets seems to pay too much attention
to him. He's married (to a US born wife) and has lived here almost 30
years now, so why do they waste time with him? BTW, his parents came
here illegally when he was a little kid, and after they finally got
their green cards, he came up from Mexico, all nice and legal. The guy
born here rarely works, unlike the guy born in Mexico, who has worked
his way up from burger flipper to computer tech.
--
BDK, leader of the non-jew, non-existant jew paid shills!
dave
>>
>
> Yawn. Typical liberal/commie crap. Blame American citizens and make
> excuses for the invaders from Mexico et al.
>
dave
>>
>>
>>
>>> I can be pretty astonishing.
>>
>> Pretty ignorant is more like it. (Sorry, couldn't resist).
>>
That's quite alright. I definitely am lacking data.
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.rense.com/general90/proof.htm
Dr.Manning is a GOOD Guy.
cuhulin
bpnjensen
FYI - I didn't say that, Dave - definitely not my opinion of you.
BDK
cuh...@webtv.net says...
The only proof is that "Dr. Manning" is a loon, as are you for buying
into anything on Rense, cause if it's on Rense, it's not likely to make
sense.
cuh...@webtv.net
businesses.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=288577
Where bouts is Santa Cruz? I am too lazy to look it up in my Rand
McNally Road Atlas.
cuhulin
dave
Across the bay from Monterey.
bpnjensen
About 75 miles south of Frisco.
cuh...@webtv.net
went to my bathroom library.
Santa Cruz, poplulation about 53,000.
cuhulin
m II
> Yawn. Typical liberal/commie crap. Blame American citizens and make
> excuses for the invaders from Mexico et al.
http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/001210.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0717/p02s01-ussc.html
and thousands more examples, I'm sure.
This the BEST one of the bunch:
The irony is overwhelming.
mike
All Yankee
raise your hands! Just as I thought, all talk and no action.
Get involved before it's too damn late.
"m II" <c...@in.the.hat> wrote in message news:4bde...@news.x-privat.org...
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.supertalkms.com
Paul Gallo said the Pentagon said, Hey guys, don't mess with the gays
serving in the Military thingy untill we come up with a plan.
A guy on Paul Gallo's radio talk show commented, Getting blown out of
your foxhole is never a good thing.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.WLOX.com
BP wants them to sign a waiver.A waiver saying they won't sue BP.
Community Colleges, Do NOT sign anything like that!
cuhulin
bpnjensen
> All those who are actively trying to do something to change this situation,
> raise your hands! Just as I thought, all talk and no action.
> Get involved before it's too damn late.
And your suggestion would be - what? I've already told my
congressional people that I want U.S. firms to stop hiring illegals.
If I owned a business myself, I would require at least a signed
statement, but I am not a business owner.
Let's hear it.
Bruce
D. Peter Maus
I've written to my Congress persons, attended town hall meetings
and questioned my Congress persons. I DO own a business and do NOT
hire illegals.
Hell, I've even fired the Chihuahua.
What the hell else can I do.
bpnjensen
Damn - I liked the Chihuahua :-(
cuh...@webtv.net
David Hartman on 5:00 PM WAPT tv news) I HOPE that Northerly wind blows
that oil spill/leak to Cuba,,, Cuba, SI!
and then (Gulf Stream) all the way to Limeyland.That would serve those
Limeys RIGHT.
The Gulf Stream Does go to Limeyland, you know.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=288627
Fires?
cuhulin
m II
> Paul Gallo said the Pentagon said, Hey guys, don't mess with the gays
> serving in the Military thingy untill we come up with a plan.
>
> A guy on Paul Gallo's radio talk show commented, Getting blown out of
> your foxhole is never a good thing.
So..does maintaining the status quo mean getting blown *IN* your foxhole?
mike
cuh...@webtv.net
issued a little folding shovel/Entrenching Tool.I never had to actually
use it though.In fact, I do have a little folding shovel/Entrenching
Tool.I bought it a bunch of years ago at one of the Goodwill stores
around here.I saw it a few days ago when I was getting out a few pieces
of asbestos siding out from behind my washing machine.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com
cuhulin
All Yankee
decent attempts to make changes for the better. D. Peter Maus and Mr.
Bruce Jensen. Good work fellas. Now if only we could get the rest to
follow the pied pipers. Probably too much to ask or hope for, I guess.
Again , thanks for your efforts guys.
"D. Peter Maus" <dpete...@att.net> wrote in message
news:hrn74t$hrb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
cuh...@webtv.net
He gets it Right.
cuhulin
Gregg
> It appears there are only two people in the group, so far, who have made
> decent attempts to make changes for the better. D. Peter Maus and Mr.
> Bruce Jensen. Good work fellas. Now if only we could get the rest to
> follow the pied pipers. Probably too much to ask or hope for, I guess.
> Again , thanks for your efforts guys.
>
Six posts in the history of your usenet activity and first here? I
think not. We all hope you add as much to this group as you are
cheerleading for. :-) What receivers do you use and what types of
antennas? Join the group to "make it better" and give your "decent
attempt." :-D Still on 60 meters here.:-I
Drifter
I'm with Gregg here, you want to make a change for the better? Then
take your polit crap to the proper group. This is a radio/ shortwave
group. We don't need cross posting off-topic static here.
Drifter...
All Yankee
your polit crap to the proper group."
crap" as you call it. A few in here are straight up crackpots and pretend
know it alls.
'Still keep the knife in front of your radio "Dave"? Reason?
"This is a radio/ shortwave group." For some maybe, for others not. Some
have been shown just how dumb they really are but they're still here when
the smoke clears. Mumble/Stumble. Hang on to those coat tails now, of the
"real rec.radio.shortwave members".
Quit wasting your time with snide remarks regarding other members. You
really present yourselves as VERY childish when you do that.
"We don't need cross posting off-topic static here." Really? You've
wasted so much time condemning the (teacher?) with the false credentials,
just one example!
So many have dropped from this group because of the vermin waiting on the
sidelines. Some were not up to your level of gutter sniping and just left.
Too bad, they had so much to offer. The rest were probably just not of the
USENET MENTALITY that's apparent here.
* Thumbs up to the likes of DX Ace, D. Peter Maus, Joe Analssandrini, John
Plimmer, Brenda Ann and a few others who make intelligent contributions to
this group, yes and even Cuhulin and doggie for his additions.
The rest I leave you to rot in your own self-made ruts.
Ten-Tec RX-340
NRD-535
Icom R71A full mods
Barlow Wadley XCR30 portable
Panasonic RF-2200
Sony SW-55 portable
GRE PSR-600 Scanner
The Antennas:
Wellbrook 1530+
Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
MFJ 1026 Noise Canceller
Discone Scanner Ant. .... 30 ft. tower.
*Just a hobby*
PS ... Now for the whinning! Illegitimi non carborundum
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"Drifter" <dri...@pgh.net> wrote in message
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D. Peter Maus
> Ten-Tec RX-340
> NRD-535
> Icom R71A full mods
> Barlow Wadley XCR30 portable
> Panasonic RF-2200
> Sony SW-55 portable
> GRE PSR-600 Scanner
> The Antennas:
> Wellbrook 1530+
> Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
> MFJ 1026 Noise Canceller
> Discone Scanner Ant. .... 30 ft. tower.
> *Just a hobby*
>
I'm looking at the Wellbrook, myself, at this location. How do
you like it? And which direction do you have the major lobes
oriented? Do you have to....and do you have the convenient mechanics
to...reorient it at will?
All Yankee
most interfering noise sources. At this location I usually keep it facing
SSE as this is the main direction for my interests, utility monitoring. For
now an inexpensive Radio Shack rotator seems to be working fine. Very nice
to have the ability to remotely control it's direction. Only once did the
drive freeze during an ice storm.
When setting up it's location for best noise free operation, I placed the
assembled unit on a temporary moveable base in order to try it a various
spots around the yard. That spot was soon found although not exactly where
I wanted it. The cable runs are now buried beneath the my wife's flower
beds and a small rock garden and at some length from the house.
For a final touch the amazing 1026 removes almost entirely any lingering
noise. Very pleased with the setup.
Please excuse my not replying to newsgroup posts at times as my job
sometimes takes me away for extended periods. Thanks for your interest and
the best of monitoring to the group.
"D. Peter Maus" <dpete...@att.net> wrote in message
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cuh...@webtv.net
The Outsider, movie, TCM channel, right now.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
cuh...@webtv.net
with ice crystals/whatever.
Some of that oil will pollute beaches on the East coast too and it will
pollute Limeyland (I Don't care about Limeyland!!!!!!!) and Ireland.
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn BP!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin
dave
It didn't work because there's 5 times as much shit coming out of that
hole than they're willing to admit. It's an Exxon Valdez a week.
bpnjensen
That, and ice/methane crystal build-up on the hygroscopic points of
the device. It's cold down that deep, even in the balmy Gulf. The
reports suggest the expulsion is now up to 3,000,000 gallons; could
certainly be more than that. No matter how you cut these cards, a
very bad deal.
Bruce
m II
>> It didn't work because there's 5 times as much shit coming out of that
>> hole than they're willing to admit. It's an Exxon Valdez a week.
>
> That, and ice/methane crystal build-up on the hygroscopic points of
> the device. It's cold down that deep, even in the balmy Gulf. The
> reports suggest the expulsion is now up to 3,000,000 gallons; could
> certainly be more than that. No matter how you cut these cards, a
> very bad deal.
I wonder how hot the oil is. The lower it's coming from, the hotter it's
going to be. Why isn't it melting the 'ice'?
As for the ice formation, if any, someone once said it was due to the
expansion of gas as it comes out with the oil. I don't know enough about
it to comment.
I *do* know, however, that ALL pollution or environmental degradation is
caused by corrupt politicians. They are too cheaply bought.
Corporations' right to pollute ends at the start of my food, water and
air supply.
No one can sell/trade/give away my rights to anyone else, but payoffs to
the political class ensure that is *exactly* what is happening.
Zappa was right. Politics are the entertainment branch of Industry.
In a not so surprise move, the BP home URL has removed the Homeland
Security logo and link that used to be at the top of the page.
mike
cuh...@webtv.net
off the Coast of Louisiana.The trick is, How to make it economically
feasible to get that methane? How?
How Now Brown Cow.
cuhulin
dave
When a pressurized fluid is suddenly relieved of pressure it gets cold.
This is how your refrigerator works.
The little hole on top of the coffer dam is too small. The gas has
already expanded way farther than tha, and the resulting cold from that,
as well as the temperature that far below the surface, has caused the
liquid methane and frozen saltwater to form the hydrate.
I'm wondering why they don't just let a big ice ball form in there (the
40' dingus) to see if it stops the leak.
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=288966
///Sheet, Mope!///
What's that you say, Sang?
///Sheet///
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
lighter than water, that is why Ice Cubes float in my glass of Iced Tea
when I go to my sister and brother in laws home for Easter Dinner and
Thanksgiving Day dinner and Christmas Day Dinner.
Note: There is NO such thing as lunch, not around here anyway.It is
always Dinner.
Speaking of that, I have a brass bell.Sometimes I open my front door and
I make my brass bell sound off, I says,,, Dinner Time!, Dinner Time!
Come and get it! Dinner Time!, Dinner Time!
Sometimes I toot my horn.That damn democrap B HO ButtKisser over
there across the street, he hollered out to some other damn democrap B
HO ButtKissers,,,,
He's got some kind of a horn over there!!!
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.clarionledger.com
Anybody want to buy a big oil box? Cheap.
cuhulin
Joe from Kokomo
> I *do* know, however, that ALL pollution or environmental degradation is
> caused by corrupt politicians. They are too cheaply bought.
So what's yer point?
If we paid -more- for our corrupt politicians, would that make the oil
on the beach any less gloppy? ;-)
bpnjensen
I'd just as soon leave it frozen there. The atmosphere is getting too
warm already.
bpnjensen
>
> - Show quoted text -
Exactly - but I'd guess the pressure of the upwelling oil would easily
topple the dingus if the stopper were left in place. I would not
trust the anchors to the ocean floor, even if they we fastened to
bedrock (which is unlikely, given the geography).