Sunspots. From AFP.
D. Peter Maus
AFP
Scientists predict rare hibernation of sunspots AFP/File
by Kerry Sheridan – Tue Jun 14, 5:38 pm ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) – For years, scientists have been predicting the
Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of
intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has
suggested quite the opposite.
According to three studies released in the United States on Tuesday,
experts believe the familiar sunspot cycle may be shutting down and
heading toward a pattern of inactivity unseen since the 17th century.
The signs include a missing jet stream, fading spots, and slower
activity near the poles, said experts from the National Solar
Observatory and Air Force Research Laboratory.
"This is highly unusual and unexpected," said Frank Hill, associate
director of the NSO's Solar Synoptic Network, as the findings of the
three studies were presented at the annual meeting of the American
Astronomical Society's Solar Physics Division in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
"But the fact that three completely different views of the Sun point
in the same direction is a powerful indicator that the sunspot cycle
may be going into hibernation."
Solar activity tends to rise and fall every 11 years or so. The
solar maximum and solar minimum each mark about half the interval of
the magnetic pole reversal on the Sun, which happens every 22 years.
Hill said the current cycle, number 24, "may be the last normal one
for some time and the next one, cycle 25, may not happen for some time.
"This is important because the solar cycle causes space weather
which affects modern technology and may contribute to climate
change," he told reporters.
Experts are now probing whether this period of inactivity could be a
second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period when hardly any
sunspots were observed between 1645-1715, a period known as the
"Little Ice Age."
"If we are right, this could be the last solar maximum we'll see for
a few decades. That would affect everything from space exploration
to Earth's climate," said Hill.
Solar flares and eruptions can send highly charged particles
hurtling toward Earth and interfere with satellite communications,
GPS systems and even airline controls.
Geomagnetic forces have been known to occasionally garble the
world's modern gadgetry, and warnings were issued as recently as
last week when a moderate solar flare sent a coronal mass ejection
in the Earth's direction.
The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot
activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the
impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to
scientists who have published recent papers on the topic.
"Recent solar 11-year cycles are associated empirically with changes
in global surface temperature of 0.1 Celsius," said Judith Lean, a
solar physicist with the US Naval Research Laboratory.
If the cycle were to stop or slow down, the small fluctuation in
temperature would do the same, eliminating the slightly cooler
effect of a solar minimum compared to the warmer solar maximum. The
phenomenon was witnessed during the descending phase of the last
solar cycle.
This "cancelled part of the greenhouse gas warming of the period
2000-2008, causing the net global surface temperature to remain
approximately flat -- and leading to the big debate of why the Earth
hadn't (been) warming in the past decade," Lean, who was not
involved in the three studies presented, said in an email to AFP.
A study in the March 2010 issue of Geophysical Research Letters
explored what effect an extended solar minimum might have, and found
no more than a 0.3 Celsius dip by 2100 compared to normal solar
fluctuations.
"A new Maunder-type solar activity minimum cannot offset the global
warming caused by human greenhouse gas emissions," wrote authors
Georg Feulner and Stefan Rahmstorf, noting that forecasts by the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have found a range of 3.7
Celsius to 4.5 Celsius rise by this century's end compared to the
latter half of the 20th century.
"Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of
solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the
distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted
for only several decades or a century at most."
arthr...@webtv.net
Judging from the last two winter seasons this may be true . The Little
Ice Age is almost here . Has anyone seen or heard of Al Gore lately ?
D. Peter Maus
He's ice skating with Lucifer.
RHF
- The Little Ice Age is almost here .
- Has anyone seen or heard of Al Gore lately ?
You mean Al 'Icicle' Gore the Billionaire
Liberal Democrat Profiteer of Global Warming...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html
* Carbon Credit Cash Goes To Al Gore
{Liberal Democrat} While Your Family Freezes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html
-cash-it-out-gore- -gore-us-some-more- ~ RHF
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Scientists Now Predict {Payola}
Rare 'Hibernation' of Sun-Spots
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110614/ts_afp/usspacesun
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Global Warming Payola -aka- "Climate-Gate"©
http://www.climategate.com/
-becomes-
Mini-Ice-Age Payola -aka- Little-ice-Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
-wrt-
'Sicko' WeinerGate©
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinergate
.
Glabal Warming... It's All Obama's Fault
-blame-obama- -blame-obama- -blame-obama-
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Mini-Ice-Age... It's All Obama's Fault
-blame-obama- -blame-obama- -blame-obama-
.
WeinerGate©... It's All Obama's Fault
-blame-obama- -blame-obama- -blame-obama-
.
-remember- 2001~2008 It Was Bush's Fault
-blame-bush- -blame-bush- -blame-bush-
.
-so- 2009~on-ward- It's All Obama's Fault
-blame-obama- -blame-obama- -blame-obama-
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the name of the game is the blame game ~ RHF
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Burr
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Two nice storms coming in this week.
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<arthr...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:8d199434-3252-4042-9ccb-
dave
>> "Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of
>> solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the
>> distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted
>> for only several decades or a century at most."
>
> Judging from the last two winter seasons this may be true . The Little
> Ice Age is almost here . Has anyone seen or heard of Al Gore lately ?
There will be no little Ice Age. The earth is hotter than it has ever
been with people on it, and that will continue. The magnetic collapse in
the sun will not be enough to balance out our trashing of the
atmosphere. There were 1/6 as many people in the 17th century.
dave
> On 6/15/11 24:45 , arthr...@webtv.net wrote:
The article refers to an 8 year period, which shows stupidity. When
discussing climate a 30 year window is the minimum accepted time frame.
The flat line from 2000-2008 is insignificant.
John Smith
That is surely it, just think of the heat gain which can be written off
to the dinosaurs in that time frame!
--
Regards,
JS
�The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it�s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.� -- Patrick Henry
arthr...@webtv.net
A) No man alive can foresee whether there will be or not a new Little
Ice Age . These observations take centuries to compile . B)
2000-3000-4000 years ago the weather in general was slightly warmer
(!) than today ,at least in the original Cradles of Civilization e.g.
the Mediterranean basin . D) Any physical event on the Sun always
had some impact upon the Earth, whether we like it or accept it or do
not . E) The fact that the total poulation is much higher today , than
in the 17th century is the proof that : human life longevity is much
greater due to the advances in science AND technology , wars were
implemented as a constant tool of resolving nearly ANY minor
differences , the famines of the past were MUCH greater and longer
than we can imagine . On the subject of wars , for instance , the
Thirty Years War in Europe wiped out entire regions , some areas lost
50% of the population or more . Talk about the 'good old days' . . .
dave
>
> A) No man alive can foresee whether there will be or not a new Little
> Ice Age . These observations take centuries to compile . B)
> 2000-3000-4000 years ago the weather in general was slightly warmer
> (!) than today ,at least in the original Cradles of Civilization e.g.
> the Mediterranean basin . D) Any physical event on the Sun always
> had some impact upon the Earth, whether we like it or accept it or do
> not . E) The fact that the total poulation is much higher today , than
> in the 17th century is the proof that : human life longevity is much
> greater due to the advances in science AND technology , wars were
> implemented as a constant tool of resolving nearly ANY minor
> differences , the famines of the past were MUCH greater and longer
> than we can imagine . On the subject of wars , for instance , the
> Thirty Years War in Europe wiped out entire regions , some areas lost
> 50% of the population or more . Talk about the 'good old days' . . .
You say that anything that happens on the Sun affects us here, but even
though the Sun's output has been reduced lately the climate is still
getting hotter. Explain.
RHF
> On Jun 15, 8:52 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > On 06/14/2011 10:45 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > >> "Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of
> > >> solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the
> > >> distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted
> > >> for only several decades or a century at most."
>
> > > Judging from the last two winter seasons this may be true . The Little
> > > Ice Age is almost here . Has anyone seen or heard of Al Gore lately ?
>
> > There will be no little Ice Age. The earth is hotter than it has ever
> > been with people on it, and that will continue. The magnetic collapse in
> > the sun will not be enough to balance out our trashing of the
> > atmosphere. There were 1/6 as many people in the 17th century.
>
- will be or not a new Little Ice Age .
Ah Butt... Dave Is 'Special' !
Dave Embodies "No-Man"
....why... You might say
Dave is Alive with "No-Man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
-hammer-down-dave- -hammer-down-dave-
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RHF
> On 06/15/2011 10:36 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > A) No man alive can foresee whether there will be or not a new Little
> > Ice Age . These observations take centuries to compile . B)
> > 2000-3000-4000 years ago the weather in general was slightly warmer
> > (!) than today ,at least in the original Cradles of Civilization e.g.
> > the Mediterranean basin . D) Any physical event on the Sun always
> > had some impact upon the Earth, whether we like it or accept it or do
> > not . E) The fact that the total poulation is much higher today , than
> > in the 17th century is the proof that : human life longevity is much
> > greater due to the advances in science AND technology , wars were
> > implemented as a constant tool of resolving nearly ANY minor
> > differences , the famines of the past were MUCH greater and longer
> > than we can imagine . On the subject of wars , for instance , the
> > Thirty Years War in Europe wiped out entire regions , some areas lost
> > 50% of the population or more . Talk about the 'good old days' . . .
>
- Sun affects us here, but even though the
- Sun's output has been reduced lately the
- climate is still getting hotter.
- Explain.
Easy... The Explanation is . . .
It's Un-Explainable ! ! !
hey that was easy ~ RHF
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cuh...@webtv.net
while.
Currently, 102 Degrees inside my flower box on doggy's front porch.I
don't let doggy stay on that front porch.I prefer to keep her inside
where it is cool airconditioning.Dogs sweat glands are in those pads on
the bottom of their feet.That hot concrete out there is Murder on those
Dogs.
cuhulin
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cuh...@webtv.net
Powerful Earthquake Strikes Alaska's Largest City
htp://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=309212
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman movie has started on the TCM channel.Sounds
like it ought to be Good movie.
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Explain what ? I'm afraid the question is too vague to be understood .
Can you please be more precise,perhaps ?
cuh...@webtv.net
Joe from Kokomo
> The heat is coming from Dave running his mouth about everything but radio's
Huh? Dave??
"John Smith" posts are outrunning Dave's by at least 10 to 1, probably more.
Please, give credit where it's due.
Burr
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dave
It will continue to get hotter in most "temperate" places. As long as
the ocean currents don't change California is downstream from Alaska.
Our 60 degree seawater keeps it tolerable usually. It does get to 118
once in a while.
dave
Explain why the Earth is getting hotter if the Sun is getting cooler
(not counting my off-topic radio breath)
dave
It will not set until September
dave
> I have John blocked
>
As do I, along with the Australian with a dozen identities.
dave
burr thinks I'm a communist
cuh...@webtv.net
couch.That is More than close enough! I reckon Zumbrota is about a
thousand miles North of doggy's couch.Currently, 88 Degrees inside my
flower box on doggy's front porch.We need Rain.
cuhulin
John Smith
I am waiting for God to enact his vengeance on san fransicko, and drop
it off into the ocean, with homosexuals still attached ... I always
wanted some ocean front property, never owned any, yet!
RHF
- - On 6/16/2011 7:52 PM, Burr wrote:
- - The heat is coming from Dave running
- - his mouth about everything but radio's
>
- Huh? Dave??
-
- "John Smith" posts are outrunning
- Dave's by at least 10 to 1, probably more.
-
- Please, give credit where it's due.
JfK,
OK here is : "1" JS Credit, "10" JS Credits,
"100" JS Credits, and "1000" JS Credits
-js-has-worked-hard-to-earned-them-all-
-and- You Can Always Give Dave Credit For
. . . Being 'Special' -we-love-you-dave-:o)-
hey - don't 'i' (rhf) get a Bronze [3rd Place]
dishonorable mention... ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
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RHF
> On 06/17/2011 05:08 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
>
> > On 6/16/2011 7:52 PM, Burr wrote:
>
> >> The heat is coming from Dave running his mouth about everything but
> >> radio's
>
> > Huh? Dave??
>
> > "John Smith" posts are outrunning Dave's by at least 10 to 1, probably
> > more.
- - Please, give credit where it's due.
- burr thinks I'm a communist
Dave what kind of Communist . . .
a -rotfl- Libertarian-Communist !
http://images1.cpcache.com/nocache/product/21382051v2147483647_480x480_Front.jpg
a -rotfl- Anarchist-Communist !
http://images.wikia.com/micronations/images/4/49/Red-black-star-flag.png
a -rotfl- John-Birch-Communist !
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mg7D3kYysfw/SftZIFh7UEI/AAAAAAAAMyM/Cr3Qwxjx-UQ/s400/10031190_BG2.jpg
a -rotfl- Joe-Pine-Communist !
a -rotfl- Eco-Green-Communist !
http://www.idealforum.co.uk/gallery/v/fullbug/Green-Weed.jpg.html
Honestly Dave... What Color Is Your Red Star ?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jSAVq9kGoas/Snv6a_1EjVI/AAAAAAAACKk/lx68prTKiFw/s320/red+star.jpg
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cuh...@webtv.net
into/onto some old wooden Ships they sank into the water, many, many
years ago.Some old Ships that Sailed around the Horn of Africa, people
going West young man, going West.I once read about it in a book about
the old West, many, many years ago.
San Francisco is the place to be! Bit, doggy's Missy Sippy couch is the
place for me! I Aint Movin!
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Our winters are getting longer AND colder ! As far as the Sun's
temperature goes-- the core is estimated to be at 13.6 million degrees
K . And that's that .
cuh...@webtv.net
stations that doesn't exist) tee vee noos that NASA says Mercury has
Ice, and lots of it too, covered with Ice.300 Degrees below Zero on
Planet Mercury.
Frosty Mannnnn,,,, Frosty!
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Some parts of the Moon have record-breaking 35 deg K . That's minus
238 deg C , real cold !
cuh...@webtv.net
land, they spin their tail like a propellar.They spray their poop in all
directions, even up into the trees.They are marking their territory with
their poop.
cuhulin
dave
That's how my Dad's family got here.
dave
That ain't what's making the ice melt
cuh...@webtv.net
around.The Ships that made it to San Francisco, after the passengers
debarked, all of the stuff on the Ships that could be sold was sold.
You can look it up in the History of San Francisco.Be sure to wear a
flower in your hair though.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
that movie.
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Ice melts : when the surrounding temperature rises (Earth is getting
cooked, by itself) . Or, in another way-- if the amount of Solar
energy , directed towards the Earth, goes up . . . Or , if Al Gore
talks the sleeping volcanoes (through some witchcraft-voodoo-power)
into erupting one after another (like we just witnessed in Iceland) .
The last scenario may bring about various scenarios- like a global
change in climates . The final effects can be unpredictable , to say
the least .
dave
San Francisco is the most capitalist place in America.
dave
>
> Ice melts : when the surrounding temperature rises (Earth is getting
> cooked, by itself) . Or, in another way-- if the amount of Solar
> energy , directed towards the Earth, goes up . . . Or , if Al Gore
> talks the sleeping volcanoes (through some witchcraft-voodoo-power)
> into erupting one after another (like we just witnessed in Iceland) .
> The last scenario may bring about various scenarios- like a global
> change in climates . The final effects can be unpredictable , to say
> the least .
They bring up President Gore and volcanoes rather than consider the
consequences. Whistling past the Soylent Green factory it is.
cuh...@webtv.net
Core Samples Proove that.It's just like People, we come and go.
cuhulin
John Smith
Hmmm, this is queer, quite queer!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
A fool hand his money are soon parted, shame it is the scam of Co2 which
will do it this time, something every living animal contributes to the
plants though organic life processes ...
Regards,
JS
dave
Ice cores go back 400,000 years. Rocks are what you're thinking of maybe?
RHF
> On 06/18/2011 09:34 PM, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ice melts : when the surrounding temperature rises (Earth is getting
> > cooked, by itself) . Or, in another way-- if the amount of Solar
> > energy , directed towards the Earth, goes up . . . Or , if Al Gore
> > talks the sleeping volcanoes (through some witchcraft-voodoo-power)
> > into erupting one after another (like we just witnessed in Iceland) .
> > The last scenario may bring about various scenarios- like a global
> > change in climates . The final effects can be unpredictable , to say
> > the least .
- They bring up President Gore
'Special-Dave' -wrote-new-subject-line-
"You can always spot the assholes"
And Proves It By Calling Al Gore "President Gore"
-you-can't-make-this-up-...priceless...
*Note*To*Dave* Yes We Can Can ;;-}}
.
So Much Non-Sense...
I Here-By Declare This To Be An 'RHF' Free Thread
oops... sorry about that ~ RHF
-alt.idiots- -alt.stupid.idiots-
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RHF
- - On 06/19/2011 07:33 AM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
- - Ice Ages come and Go.
- - Been doing so for Millions of Years.
- - Those deep Ice Core Samples Proove that.
- - It's just like People, we come and go.
- - cuhulin
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On Jun 19, 1:46 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
Dave -wrote-new-subject-line-
And Proves It By Calling Al Gore "President Gore"
-you-can't-make-this-up-...priceless...
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-next- Dave -wrote-
- Ice cores go back 400,000 years.
Oops... Your Science is Out_Dated 'Special-Dave' !
New Ice Core Reveals 800,000 Years of Climate History
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/07/070705-antarctica-ice.html
Now Here Is Something To Think About [S2TA] . . .
If Snow-Ice Cores only go back 400K~800K
Which is less-than a Million Years Ago :
So Then The Earth Was To Warm [HOT!] for Snow
and Ice... Who Did Humanity 'Mankind' Cause
All That Global Warming Back Then - idtars ~ RHF
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Dave -wrote-
- Rocks are what you're thinking of maybe?
Not Talking About Your Brain 'Special-Dave' !
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cuh...@webtv.net
Earth's Polar Ice Caps are three million years old, or much older.
I Say Much, Much, Much Older.That IS what I Say.Let me ask doggy, she is
Much Smarter than I am.
Doggy, how old are the Polar Ice Caps?
///Aw Hell, Much older than we know.Now give me a cookie///
OK.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
HA HA, that FAT SOB IS WRONG!!
We gots Smokey and the Bandit crankin up right now on the ENCe channel
535.
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Wrong. It has always been Manhattan . Billionaires' paradise . Come
and see for yourself .
cuh...@webtv.net
Really IS
http://www.rense.com/general94/onevol.htm
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Yep.Mt.Pinatubo . That was some serious eruption+numerous side
effects . 1991 .