Which 2 meg come with native 28mm wide lens?
MosesTey
In order of priorities:
1. zoom wide side down to 28mm (or wider) without adapters.
2. As small as possible.
3. Panorama capability preferred.
Thanks in advance.
MO
What's all this
28mm lens no adapters
Very small
Canon Powershot A50 28-70mm (Very very small) $400 now
Look in the NG, there are some webpages that offer good reviews
Like, http://www.megapixel.net/html/issueindex.html
http://www.dpreview.com/
http://www.steves-digicams.com/
Not small
SONY DSC-D770 28-140mm $1,800 B&H Photo (NYC)
Very good lens, this camera is the same size as an SLR, focus ring
on lens.
CGannonOxford
Chris
e
a 28 mm lens on a digcam is goint to be more like a 40mm on a 35mm SLR.
not nearly as wide as you think - go to compusa and take some sample photos
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MosesTey <mose...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Michael Lynch
> be careful, are you talking about 28mm equivilent? or actual 28 mm
>
Since the original poster was asking about which camera had a 28 mm _wide_
lens, I don't see any way to take this, other than 35 mm equivalent.
> a 28 mm lens on a digcam is goint to be more like a 40mm on a 35mm SLR.
>
You are a bit off, as far as digicam lenses to 35 mm equivalents are
concerned. In reality, a 28 mm lens on most of the current 2 megapixel
digicams would equate to at least 150 mm, using a 35 mm equivalent. For
example, the Oly 2000Z's lens is 6.5 mm at full wide, which has a 35 mm
equivalent of 35 mm. It's 19.5 mm at full telephoto, with a 35 mm equivalent
of 105 mm. A digital camera would need one heck of a large CCD to have its
28 mm lens work out to a 35 mm equivalent of 40 mm.
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Michael Lynch
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> The Olympus 2000 meets your requirements.
>
>
Since 28 mm--without an adapter--was one of the requirements, the 2000Z,
which is 35 mm at full wide, does not exactly meet the requirements (using
35 mm equivalents, naturally).
MosesTey
The problem with the Canon A50 so far is the less than 2 megpixel resolution.
Thanks.
MO
Bengt Cyren
> The Olympus 2000 meets your requirements.
No it doesn't, this is not even subjective, it's math.
/Bengt Cyren
Bengt Cyren
> 28 mm lens on a digcam is goint to be more like a 40mm on a 35mm SLR.
Wrong again "e". It's not a matter of "more like". It's pure math. Formula
Equvalent 35mm focal length = f * D / d
f is real focal length (a few mm)
D is length if 35 mm image diagonal which is 43.26 mm
d is length of CCD diagonal
/Bengt Cyren
Edward Bigelow
On the Powershot A50Z, there is a 4.3mm -10.8mm zoom. With the 1/2.7" CCD cell,
that is supposedly the equivalent of a 28mm - 70mm on 35mm camera.
So, a actual 28mm lens on that digicam is the equivalent of a 182mm on a 35mm
camera.
e wrote:
> be careful, are you talking about 28mm equivilent? or actual 28 mm
>
Bengt Cyren
> Looks like a case of more bad math...
> On the Powershot A50Z, there is a 4.3mm -10.8mm zoom. With the 1/2.7"
> CCD cell, that is supposedly the equivalent of a 28mm - 70mm on 35mm
> camera.
1/2.7" is the CCD silicon substrate size or something like that. These
figures means nothing. By examining A50 EXIF info you can find that the
CCD image area is 0.209" x 0.156". This is 5.31 x 3.96 mm. Thuse the
length of the diagonal is (phytagoras) 6.62 mm.
> So, a actual 28mm lens on that digicam is the equivalent of a 182mm on
> a 35mm camera.
The size of a 35 mm image is 36 x 24 mm and the length of the diagonal
43.27 mm. Now, to convert the zoom range of the A50 (as given above) to
35 mm equvalents you do...
4.3 mm * 43.27 / 6.62 which is 28.1 mm
10.8 mm * 43.27 / 6.62 which is 70.6 mm
So Canon quite accurately specified this range as 28-70 mm. The only
difference is that 35 mm images have a 3:2 aspect ratio whereas the A50
have 4/3. /Bengt Cyren
Chris Batdorf
You will have to get a camera with filter threads and
get a wide angle add-on lens.
or
You could get a Pro camera for $5,000 to $20,000 and
buy any lens you want for another thousand. :)