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Bret Ludwig

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Jun 7, 2006, 2:20:35 AM6/7/06
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Someone explain why that is bad. People act as if I invaded their
living rooms and murdered their pet moggy. I off ferals, and only
ferals. And I do it humanely with one well placed 7.62x39 or heavy
handgun round. Rather than dying a horrible death from car impact,
starvation, disease or predators they simply never know what hits them.

Matthew

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Jun 7, 2006, 12:41:57 PM6/7/06
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Geee can we say pathetic troll

Troll rating - 2.5 that is low for even a troll


Cat Protector

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Jun 7, 2006, 5:18:11 PM6/7/06
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You are a bold troll. Feral cats deserve the right to live so leave them
alone.

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Bret Ludwig

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Jun 8, 2006, 6:17:44 AM6/8/06
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Cat Protector wrote:
> You are a bold troll. Feral cats deserve the right to live so leave them
> alone.
>
> --
> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!


What about the creatures the feral cats kill for sport? The robins,
orioles, bluebirds, cardinals, purple martins and finches? What about
the weasels and chipmunks?

Can't answer that, can you?

No. I can. Feral cats are an exotic varmint that plays both sides of
the fence and whose populations are unchecked by nature, unlike bobcats
and lynxes and cougars and coyotes and wolves. Only vehicles, disease,
and a small number of feralslayers like myself check their untrammeled
destruction.

One feral, one bullet. Life is good for us feralslayers.

Magic Mood Jeep©

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Jun 8, 2006, 9:46:22 AM6/8/06
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Just be careful who you brag about it to. There are MANY computer savvy
people on these newsgroups, and they could probably find where you are. Not
that I'm threatening you, but keep in mind that, in most communities,
shooting animals is illegal, unless they are the game-type (deer, elk, etc.,
etc.) and you have a hunting license - oh, and it's hunting season. You
may, in short, end up facing a prison sentence and heavy fines for what you
are so proud of doing.

Bret Ludwig

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Jun 8, 2006, 1:04:08 PM6/8/06
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Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
<<snip>>

>
> Just be careful who you brag about it to. There are MANY computer savvy
> people on these newsgroups, and they could probably find where you are. Not
> that I'm threatening you, but keep in mind that, in most communities,
> shooting animals is illegal, unless they are the game-type (deer, elk, etc.,
> etc.) and you have a hunting license - oh, and it's hunting season. You
> may, in short, end up facing a prison sentence and heavy fines for what you
> are so proud of doing.


It's legal where and when I do it. Since I'm employed by law
enforcement-I'm not a sworn officer but I am licensed to carry
concealed-I couldn't take the chance otherwise. However, hunters and
farmers have been and will continue to shoot cats and not get bothered
in most any jurisdiction where hunting with firearms is allowed.

Where I physically reside catshooters are, if caught, charged with
unlawful discharge of a firearm in city limits. Bigger charges are
possible but juries, sensibly, won't convict uness there is an animal
torture or "heavy metal satanic aspect" to the case. Smart
feral-plagued bird lovers therefore set snares-for rabbits and
squirrels-and make a point of not noticing cats until they smell really
bad.

Matthew

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Jun 8, 2006, 2:07:34 PM6/8/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com>

99.9999 % when a person talks about hurting small animals it is a sign that
they have a very small penis and have to act like a big shot to compensate
for their lack of man hood.


Bret Ludwig

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Jun 8, 2006, 6:38:35 PM6/8/06
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You posted this twice. Do you have two very small penises?

I don't endeavor to hurt feral cats. I endeavor to kill them, using
the surest and least painful methods.

But cats hurt and maim and painfully kill smaller animals all the
time, and not for survival-a cat will die if it has to live only on
small birds, because the caloric value of what little edible there is
on one is less than the effort to stalk and kill it-but for fun, and as
it happens, as compared to say canines of similar size, cats DO have
small penises. So maybe your theory has some merit after all.

Matthew

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Jun 8, 2006, 7:26:53 PM6/8/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com>

Troll rating -3.5 Poor troll you may want to see a counselor for your
problem your low rating of a troll is sure to have a impact on your life
in general.


Laura

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Jun 8, 2006, 11:11:23 PM6/8/06
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SBC Internet Services will be pleased to hear of your abuse to feral cats as
well as the local athorities in Kansas City MO, US where I should kindly say
you LIVE! Have a great day!

~Laura

~snip~


Bret Ludwig

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Jun 9, 2006, 7:40:14 AM6/9/06
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Wow, a fucking female genius. Regular Brenda Starr.

I don't shoot anything whatsoever in the City of KCMO, nor in KCK, OP,
Lenexa or Olathe. You think I'm fucking stupid?

My neighhbors are mostly cops amd they woulod be the first to haul in
anyone shooting in the neighborood. We go out shooting
together-sometimes even for ferals, mostly they like bobcats, coyotes
and such, I don't like shooting bobcats or lynxes myself that much-once
in a while, OUT OF TOWN where it's LEGAL.

Now put out the fuse on your tampon and go back to baking cookies.

Matthew

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Jun 9, 2006, 8:01:31 AM6/9/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com>

The troll strikes again poor troll you much feel like a big strong man
to admit that you hunt and hurt small animals shows a lot about the
person. Do you think it empowers you or puts you in a shining light to
admit you kill small animals. Do you feel like a big strong man now to us
you are a joke.

And yes we think you are stupid!
And yes we think you are a poor pathetic troll!
And yes we find just like all other pathetic trolls that come out to the
groups to try and get a rise out of the cat lovers by doing what you do all
we do is laugh at your poor pathetic self. You have to come up with
better material than you do your troll rating is still a -3.5


Bret Ludwig

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Jun 9, 2006, 8:24:19 AM6/9/06
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What you think is immaterial to me. Just keep your cats spayed or
neutered and out of my bird patch.

bear...@cruller.invalid

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Jun 9, 2006, 10:59:48 AM6/9/06
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In article <1149853214....@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You think I'm fucking stupid?

ibid.

Matthew

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Jun 9, 2006, 11:28:32 AM6/9/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If it is so immaterial to you why do you keep coming back. Oh that is right
you are such a small person useless person in life that you feel the need to
some how, some way make yourself feel important. That is why you come to a
cat group and talk about killing cats. Doing your best to get a rise out of
cat lovers. But unfortunately you met people that are just laughing at you;
just like people do in real life.
So why keep coming back they do have help lines that you can call and talk
to about your inadequacies in your life. Here in the cat group all we are
going to do is laugh at you


Richard Evans

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Jun 9, 2006, 12:00:25 PM6/9/06
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"Matthew" <Iamaca...@proudtoserve.com> wrote:

>>
>If it is so immaterial to you why do you keep coming back. Oh that is right
>you are such a small person useless person in life that you feel the need to
>some how, some way make yourself feel important.

That's also why he vaguely describes himself as "employed by law
enforcement." Gives him a ring of authority when he probably cleans
toilets in a Podunk jail.

Laura

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Jun 9, 2006, 10:04:41 PM6/9/06
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You don't have to be a genius to find an iP address or get an address from
it.... you really are stupid....

~snip~


Laura

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Jun 9, 2006, 10:11:51 PM6/9/06
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Well it won't take much to find your cop buddies and turn them in
also....and by the way they WILL know who turned them in for shooting lynx
which is only in season at certain times unless .... OMG! are your cop
buddies and you poachers! Do I need to let the police know that too? Keep it
up Bret any more stupid posts and I'll have your ass in a cell doing what
you do best..... cleaning other peoples shit out of disgusting toilets!

~Laura


Bret Ludwig

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Jun 10, 2006, 8:34:53 PM6/10/06
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Brenda is back. Oh no, I'm in trouble now!

First, frosty frontbottom, no one is poaching lynx. They just aren't
worth poaching, and around here there aren't enough to make it
worthwhile. Most of my cop buddies are on the narc or IA squads, if
they were dirty would they chance disgrace and prison for chump change
when they could do it for a tractor trailer load of cocaine and buy
half of Brazil if they were so inclined??

I have shot lynx, bobcat, cougar, coyote (lots of them),100% of them
legally, in season and licensed, but you know I just don't enjoy doing
that. They are part of Nature. Felis Domesticus is not, not in North
America. That's why he, alone among mammals, is a varmint worthy of my
time and ammunition.

Keep up the detective work, Brenda. You have an opinion, a vagina and
too much time on your hands. Gawd help us all if you ever get a
commission card.

Laura

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Jun 10, 2006, 11:49:29 PM6/10/06
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~snip~

guess what Bret I now have your address phone number cell number and know
all about you. keep it up..... You'll se what I do


Cat Protector

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Jun 11, 2006, 2:10:13 AM6/11/06
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I guess being an idiot is a full time job for you. Cats don't kill birds for
sport. And man is a cause for much more killing than feral cats not to
mention the fact that humans caused the feral situation in the first place.
TNR (Trap, Neuter, Return) is the only and best way to deal feral cats as
they have a right to live. BTW, if you are serious and actually kill a feral
cat or harm them, that is considered animal cruelty and depending on the
laws in your state is most likely a felony.

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Cat Protector

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Jun 11, 2006, 2:14:06 AM6/11/06
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Amazing how you fail to identify what city and state you live in. Being
employed by law enforcement does not give you permission to kill feral cats.
Sounds to me like you are full of crap.

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Cat Protector

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Jun 11, 2006, 2:15:58 AM6/11/06
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Thanks for posting that Laura. I think the newspapers and local area rescues
will be very interested in tracking this guy down. I am willing to bet
Missouri has an animal cruelty law in the books that covers bozos like this
troll.

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Laura

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Jun 11, 2006, 3:17:39 AM6/11/06
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welcome :) Have fun letting them know I already have and they can't do
anything till they get 2 complaints :)
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Bret Ludwig

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Jun 11, 2006, 9:47:55 AM6/11/06
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Impotent howling maniacs persist in dumbness, to wit:


>>guess what Bret I now have your address phone number cell number and know
all about you. keep it up..... You'll se what I do<<

You don't. You won't.


>>I guess being an idiot is a full time job for you. Cats don't kill birds for
sport. And man is a cause for much more killing than feral cats not to
mention the fact that humans caused the feral situation in the first
place.
TNR (Trap, Neuter, Return) is the only and best way to deal feral cats
as
they have a right to live. BTW, if you are serious and actually kill a
feral
cat or harm them, that is considered animal cruelty and depending on
the
laws in your state is most likely a felony.<<

It's not my job to educate you on the law in each possible state I may
visit, which is at least seven within an easy weekend drive, and twenty
by light plane.

It's not my job either to force you to accept the FACTS about TNR and
the damage feral cats inflict on the North American ecosystem. That is
a good thing because I'm sure it would be futile. If you choose to be
as a child like all the other cat lubbers that is your right. I have
made the decision to be an adult in a world of children. Like putting
insurance on my car and using a condom when making love, dispatching
ferals who attack desireable songbirds is good citizenship.

And it sure as hell is not my job to figure out why it is feral cats
have a right to live but the large number of native species they kill
do not. I'm not that smart, and no one else I know is either.


>>Amazing how you fail to identify what city and state you live in. Being
employed by law enforcement does not give you permission to kill feral
cats.
Sounds to me like you are full of crap.<<

I obey the law. My guess is some cat lubbers wouldn't and would damage
my property or person or even kill me to stop me from doing something
the authorities can and will not. They can and will not because there
is no law against it. I see no need to assist in my own unlawful
destruction.


>>Thanks for posting that Laura. I think the newspapers and local area rescues
will be very interested in tracking this guy down. I am willing to bet
Missouri has an animal cruelty law in the books that covers bozos like
this
troll.<<

Missouri can't stop its residents from shooting cats in other states.
It does not even make an attempt to do so on a state level in
unincorporated areas in most of its counties. St. Louis City and County
are big busybodies so guess where I especially don't go.


>>welcome :) Have fun letting them know I already have and they can't do
anything till they get 2 complaints :)<<

>> Thanks for posting that Laura. I think the newspapers and local area


> rescues will be very interested in tracking this guy down. I am willing to
> bet Missouri has an animal cruelty law in the books that covers bozos like
> this troll.<<

If every hunter, farmer and rural dweller in the Show Me State that
regularly shot unwanted feral cats were imprisoned the state would go
bankrupt. Half the state would be in prison and the other half would be
hired as correction officers to watch them. The Missouri taxpayers
won't even pay to fix the car-damaging potholes on I-70, what makes you
think they are going broke for disease ridden rats with claws?

For the few of those of you not totally brain-infested with cat lubb,
consider:

http://www.floridaconservation.org/cats/


The domestic cat (Felis catus) is a beloved house pet, with over 77
million pet cats nationwide. Of these, about 43 million spend some time
outside. Additionally, there may be 60 to 100 million homeless stray
and feral cats. Domestic cats are becoming a common feature not only
of our backyards and city streets but also of our parks and other wild
lands.

Domestic cats are descended from the wild cat of Africa and
southwestern Asia and were domesticated by the Egyptians about 4,000
years ago. Animal behavior experts note that cats will hunt and kill
even if well fed. Domestic cats are very effective predators on
rabbits, squirrels, mice, lizards, snakes, and many species of wild
birds.

Domestic cats can have impacts on native wildlife:

*

Domestic cats are not a part of natural ecosystem. A single
individual free-ranging cat may kill 100 or more birds and mammals per
year. Scientists in Wisconsin estimate that cats kill at least 7.8
million birds per year in that state alone. Even cats with bells on
their collars kill birds and small mammals.
*

Cats compete with native predators and spread disease.
*

Domestic cats can be a nuisance and cause damage in many of the
same ways that wild animals do, such as killing poultry and other small
domestic stock.
*

Homeless cats may compete with pets for food.
*

Free-ranging cats can kill birds at bird feeders.
*

Cats can be a nuisance in gardens when they defecate and cover
their feces by digging.

Modify your actions to begin solving the cat problem.

Do not feed cats other than your own. Do what you can to eliminate
cat's artificial food sources. Bring in pet food at night and secure
trash cans by fastening the lid tightly or enclosing in a bin with a
locking lid.

Keep bird feeders away from bushes and underbrush where cats can hide.
If a free-ranging cat remains a problem at your feeder, you may need to
stop feeding birds for while to allow the cat to move to other hunting
areas.

Try to work problems out with your neighbors by first determining if
the cat is owned and asking the owners to control their cat. The
nuisance cat may be homeless or it could be your neighbor?s.

When all else fails you can trap the cat in a humane way and transport
it to an animal shelter. Make trapping a pet cat a last resort and
check your local ordinances first! In some communities, it is illegal
to trap a neighbor?s cat even on your property. Use a live trap
baited with sardines or tuna spread on newspaper or a paper plate.
Place the bait in the back of the trap so that the cat must enter the
trap to get the bait. Check the trap regularly, preferably every hour.
To keep from capturing animals such as raccoons and opossums, only trap
during the day. Be very careful not to be bitten or scratched; stray or
feral cats can carry rabies and other diseases. You can receive
additional technical assistance on dealing with nuisance domestic cats
through your local Humane Society or animal shelter.

If you are a cat owner, be responsible:

Obey your local pet control ordinances, and do not allow your cat to
become someone else?s nuisance.

Recognize the impact that your pet may have on native wildlife and
consider making your cat an indoor cat. Indoor cats live longer, stay
healthier, and do not kill native animals. Outdoor cats can be trained
to be indoor cats and new pet cats should stay indoors right from the
start.

NEVER intentionally release cats into the wild. Abandoning cats is
inhumane, harms our native wildlife, and is against state law.
**********************************************************************************

I don't live in Florida. I don't know less care how Florida handles
feral slayers. I know the laws where I operate. I know the terrain, and
I know where the cat lubbers who may become unhinged are. And I know
cat anatomy well enough to place my shots for clean one shot kills, at
any range I can engage them.

There's only one way you can stop me: clean up the feral cat problem
yourself. Cut off the human-sourced food supply to them, and either
trap and adopt or euthanize them, or get them to modify their behavior.
Since the latter isn't likely to succeed, I'd suggest the former.

Have a nice day, varmint lovers.

Matthew

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Jun 11, 2006, 10:20:59 AM6/11/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com>

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Poor pathetic Troll
As I said an obvious play at trying to get attention any attention will do.
Lets go into the cats groups and try to get the cat lovers all mad and riled
up. But all you are doing is giving us something to laugh at. Those
whispers you hear is us laughing along with the rest of the world
Does it really make you feel important and a big man to talk about what you
supposedly do.
To everyone that reads you pathetic attempts to get attention as a desperate
cry and plea of a person that is worthless in the real world.
There are others ways people will stop laughing at you but none come to
mind to would work in your case


Bret Ludwig

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Jun 11, 2006, 10:23:11 AM6/11/06
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I could care less.

Matthew

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Jun 11, 2006, 10:40:19 AM6/11/06
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"Bret Ludwig" <bret...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Than why do you respond? You want any attention that you can get and every
time you respond you confirm what I say


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