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Mark

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Aug 2, 2001, 10:57:09 PM8/2/01
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Can anyone tell what model Martin Committee Miles played? I've heard it's a
dark sounding horn and I'm looking for something darker than my Strad. and
not as costly as the Monette's.

Mark


Pops

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Aug 2, 2001, 11:45:34 PM8/2/01
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The name Committee just like the name Connstellation were bought and are
used for advertisement purposes only.

The current models have only 1 thing in common with the famous makes (3
valves)

I'm not saying that some people don't like the new ones. However; if you
are looking for a real one it needs to be 40+ years old.

Information about my trumpet & embouchure books.
http://www.BbTrumpet.com

Best wishes
Clint 'Pops' McLaughlin

Rob

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Aug 3, 2001, 9:13:52 AM8/3/01
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Miles would sound the same on just about any horn. I believe at the time the
Comittee he played was only one model in itself. Not too sure but maybe they
make a larger model these days in addition to the original (?) one.

I would be interested in how this horn got its name. If anyone knows, please
hold forth....

If you are looking for a darker sound, the mouthpiece and how you form the
embochure and oral cavity have more to do with it than horn make/model. IMHO,
at least.

Rob D

Jim Donaldson

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Aug 3, 2001, 10:07:28 AM8/3/01
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> I believe at the time the Comittee he played was only one model
> in itself.

The Committee came is at least two models, a DeLuxe which had nickel silver
slides, and the standard; and it came in at least three different bores. What
Miles played, I couldn't tell you.

>I would be interested in how this horn got its name.

It was designed by a...Committee.

The committee included Renold Schilke, I believe, and I'm guessing his
contribution was the reverse leadpipe. I also understood that Vincent Bach and
Elden Benge were on the committee, but I've never seen anything very
authoritative. Everybody seems to be dead.


Jim Donaldson
Denver Colorado
JFDon...@aol.com

The Schilke Loyalist
http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke

Rob

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Aug 3, 2001, 10:14:45 AM8/3/01
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I'll bet Chuck Levin could shed light. He used to own Olds many years ago and has
lots of stories about manufacturers back int "the day" . I will remember to ask
him next time I go to WMC.

Rob D

JWorleyjr

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Aug 3, 2001, 12:19:43 PM8/3/01
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They also had a model called Magnum(?) or something. My old trumpet teacher
John Coppola was given one by Maynard and the bore was huge. I tried to fill
it but it was too big. He had no problem. His (John's) tone could knock down
a wall and probaly blew out a few t-bone player's hearing during his career.
Also, the med. bores didn't have a number on the 2nd valve casing. Med.
large's had a 2 and large bores had a 3 stamped there.
John

Jim Donaldson

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Aug 3, 2001, 6:50:29 PM8/3/01
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One more thing about the Committee:

When Martin closed up shop (sometime in the 60s?), Holton bought the tradenames
and tooling, though they didn't put it into production for many years.

However, when Miles wanted a new horn, they used the old tooling and made him
one. I've always thought that was cool.

Other cool things Holton has done:

--Made Don Ellis his quarter tone trumpets; and

--Make the C150 pocket cornet which is maybe the coolest of the pocket
instruments.

Wayne Trager

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Aug 5, 2001, 3:24:31 PM8/5/01
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jfdon...@aol.comnospam (Jim Donaldson) wrote in message news:<20010803185029...@ng-fi1.aol.com>...
Jim,
I spoke with a Holton rep, and I thought you might want to know the
following(Knowing you Jim, you probably know this already):
Holton has revamped a lot of their manufacturing techniques, and their
new products look pretty decent. They're also re-introducing the
"Firebird"(I'm not sure, but I think that this time the "Firebird will
come with a one piece bell) trumpet which they dicontinued about 3
years ago. This revamp is causing a stir, and other manufacturers are
getting their "acts" together too. Doc Severinsen is back on board
with Getzen. Tom? Getzen bought the company back after 10 years and is
turning the company upside down(that's a good thing).
Finally, after 10 years the consumer will have plenty of choices when
it comes to student, intermediate, and pro trumpets. We already see
some decently made trumpets out there in just the past two years. The
"Sandoval" Trumpet, the Vintage One, etc. When was the last time any
of these manufactures marketed a trumpet with a one piece bell? The
current Committee and Ferguson trumpets are 2 piece bell construction.
There's a change a coming, and I think it's about time. It's also
pretty exciting - Don't you think?
Sincerely,
Wayne
http://communities.msn.com/TragerTrumpetTalk

slip...@webtv.net

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Aug 5, 2001, 6:11:45 PM8/5/01
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Wayne ... Always interesting to see what company / artist is doing what
.. but ... check out the - rayburnmusic.com - site.
Doc Severinsen is playing a trumpet made by Tony Scodwell in Las Vegas.
As for the MF Firebird ... What a cool idea for an instrument ... yes?
Glad to hear it may be available again.

Michael

~iii<0

Bryan Fields

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Aug 6, 2001, 11:59:52 AM8/6/01
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Wayne Trager wrote:
>
> Finally, after 10 years the consumer will have plenty of choices when
> it comes to student, intermediate, and pro trumpets.

So many trumpets, so little cash...

David Griffin

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Aug 6, 2001, 12:01:36 PM8/6/01
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That's old news. Doc gave all his Scodwells back to Tony. A friend of mine
is trying out 3 of Scodwells' horns, including the latest Doc was playing.
He's going back to Getzen.


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Steven J. Ross

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Aug 6, 2001, 12:51:52 PM8/6/01
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www.getzen.com

Check out Doc's new Getzen and the press release!

Best Wishes, Steve Ross

"David Griffin" <gri...@airmail.net> wrote in message
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Wayne Trager

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Aug 6, 2001, 3:27:21 PM8/6/01
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slip...@webtv.net wrote in message news:<23001-3B...@storefull-166.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Sorry to break the following news to you Michael, but Severinson is no
longer playing Scodwell's trumpets, infact, the new Severinson Getzen
is due for release in September.
Sincerely,
Wayne
http://communities.msn.com/TragerTrumpetTalk

Bryan Fields

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Aug 6, 2001, 5:08:57 PM8/6/01
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A little-known fact--Tony Scodwell used to play Getzens, also.

Bach37

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Aug 8, 2001, 7:16:56 PM8/8/01
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> > I believe at the time the Comittee he played was only one model
> > in itself.
>
> The Committee came is at least two models, a DeLuxe which had nickel
silver
> slides, and the standard; and it came in at least three different bores.
What
> Miles played, I couldn't tell you.

Actually, Miles' horn is locked in a glass case in the music building at my
school. Let me take a look at it tonight, and I'll post a description.

-Scott


Bach37

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Aug 8, 2001, 8:35:56 PM8/8/01
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> Actually, Miles' horn is locked in a glass case in the music building at
my
> school. Let me take a look at it tonight, and I'll post a description.

Well, scratch that! It's not there anymore. It was here on as a temporary
anyway. Sorry! I do remember that it was a very pitted looking lacquered
horn, with Martin Committee clearly across the bell. No third valve slide
ring.

-S

SMB Management, Inc.

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Aug 9, 2001, 9:32:32 AM8/9/01
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I've got a friend with a silver-plated Martin Committee, from the mid 50's,
he's interested in selling.

If you're interested, respond back, and I'll get you the details. (I think
he wants around $800-900 for it.)

Steve Baker
919-981-0303
smb...@att.net


Kirk Reeves

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Aug 12, 2001, 4:58:30 PM8/12/01
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I am interested in this trumpet. Is it still available?
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