Jim Hall Signature Model Archtop
Roger Sadowsky
Jim Hall Signature Model Archtop Guitar.
Detailed info:
< http://www.sadowsky.com/pages/framesets/fs_hall.html >
Best regards,
Roger Sadowsky
---
Sadowsky Guitars Ltd.
20 Jay Street #5C
Brooklyn, NY
11201
Tel: 718 422-1123
Fax: 718 422-1120
< http://www.sadowsky.com >
Joe Finn
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> Sadowsky Guitars is extremely proud to announce the release of the
> Jim Hall Signature Model Archtop Guitar.
>
> Detailed info:
> < http://www.sadowsky.com/pages/framesets/fs_hall.html >
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roger Sadowsky
It's certainly a beauty, Roger. The price seems very reasonable, too. I sure
you will sell a whole bunch of them. ....joe
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David Moss
already owning a guitar...
"Roger Sadowsky" wrote...
thomas
exceptionally beautiful in an understated way. Is the new
model a solid spruce top or a laminate? Carved or pressed?
Where is the guitar built, and by whom?
ro...@sadowsky.com (Roger Sadowsky) wrote in message news:<4da46edf.03080...@posting.google.com>...
Pat Smith
Greg D
Roger,
Whew - that is one gorgeous creation! And isn't this a first - a JH sig
model - by anybody?
Greg
David Moss
"thomas" wrote...
> Where is the guitar built, and by whom?
Well, by Roger Sadowsky - as the "Sadowsky
Guitars is extremely proud to announce" in the
original posting would appear to imply...
And as to where it's built: In Brooklyn, according
to the address given in the original posting.
Been a long day, huh? ;-)
Try this one: Who wrote Beethoven's 5th symphony?
Blue Monk
16" body with 2-3/4" side thickness
Lightweight 5 ply premium flamed maple construction
Custom JH shaped maple neck with ebony fingerboard and dovetail joint
Ebony bridge, pickguard and knobs
Custom designed Sadowsky ebony tailpiece with string ground
24.75" scale length; 1-3/4" nut width
Nitrocellulose lacquer finish, Jim Hall sunburst
Premium electronics, including custom wound Sadowsky JH pickup with
gold cover, CTS pots and Switchcraft jack.
Price: $3895.00 with "JH Signature" hardshell case
On 8/06/03 03:59, in article
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wrote:
Margaret Wilson
Regards,
Margaret
"Roger Sadowsky" <ro...@sadowsky.com> wrote in message
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clean_uranus
The description mentions "...designing a new ebony tailpiece with a
string ground and ...."
What's a "string ground" and why is it necessary on an ebony bridge? I
know most solidbodies ground their metal bridges.
Do any other archtops have this feature?
- Eugel
dunlop212
asian laminate guitar? Personally, I think he's doing something
similar with his basses; having a lower price model built offshore to
his specs. Not Indonesian sweat shop stuff, but japanese.
In other words, nice guitar, but aren't there other nice alternatives
at that price point (eg, an exquisite 50s ES-175 or ES-350), or even
half the dough (carved stevenson, epiphone elitest).
I'm happy to be slapped down on this, because I'm a big Sadowsky fan.
Blue Monk
model. It's not up on his website, but last year I went down to his shop and
played two of the guitars he had built to similar specs as this Jim Hall
model and it was around the same price. And I would rather buy one of Dale's
guitars than an exquisite 50's anything. Having one of his carved tops
already, I know he makes a good product. I've played two Sadowskys before,
and they were both very nice guitars as well. I'm not into old guitars. Some
of the guitars being built today are better made than some of the older
guitars. I think it's great Sadowsky is making a product like this. There is
a market for it.
Monk
http://www.dreamtracks.com/
On 8/6/03 11:14 AM, in article
57bfeff0.03080...@posting.google.com, "dunlop212"
Greg D
AFAIK, all full-bodied jazz archtops with a metal endpin tailpiece
have a ground wire running from a pot to the endpin/tailpiece. With an
ebony tailpiece, perhaps they have a bit of metal on the inside of it
to ground to???
>
> - Eugel
thomas
"Each instrument sold direct by Sadowsky Guitars will have all final
fretwork and set-up performed by Roger and his staff and will contain
a label signed by Roger and Jim."
It is clear from this that Roger is doing what many other name
luthiers are
now doing. They contract out the major construction of their budget
model
to an overseas shop, exert some degree of quality control over the
product
that comes back, and then resell the guitars with "the name" on the
headstock.
Nothing wrong with that, but a prospective buyer spending nearly four
grand will want to know who actually built his guitar and how much
work
"the name" actually put into it.
It sounds to me as if you would be spending nearly four grand on a
plywood
guitar that is mostly built in an offshore factory. I'm sure they are
very nice, but for that kind of money there are first-rate luthiers
with slightly less illustrious names who will hand-build a solid wood
guitar for you without any assistance from Mexico or Korea.
Nothing against Roger--he is known for quality product and I'm
sure these are nice guitars. But know what you are getting for
your four grand.
"David Moss" <david.no...@anka.fzk.de> wrote in message news:<bgqqjs$rt834$1...@ID-90151.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Ken Rose
"Jim-Hall's-D'Aquisto-inspired" guitar built by Steve Holst, except mine has
exquisite solid carved European tonewoods, and was built to my specs,
including neck shape, scale length, fret size, etc. I posted a rather long
review in another thread. You can see a shot of the guitar at
http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/k200kr.htm . Of course, it doesn't have Jim
Hall's name on it. . .
Ken Rose
www.cdbaby.com/kenrose
"dunlop212" wrote
Greg D
> Isn't it about double what one would expect to pay for a high end
> asian laminate guitar?
Is it MIJ? If so, then you're right - it's twice the amount.
GReg
florian schmidt
> FWIW, I just paid about $1000 more than the Sadowsky for a
> "Jim-Hall's-D'Aquisto-inspired" guitar built by Steve Holst, except mine has
> exquisite solid carved European tonewoods, and was built to my specs,
> including neck shape, scale length, fret size, etc. I posted a rather long
> review in another thread. You can see a shot of the guitar at
> http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/k200kr.htm . Of course, it doesn't have Jim
> Hall's name on it. . .
Hi, i browsed the holst webpage and found this interesting looking guitar.
I wonder what is meant by "silk and steel" strings..
http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/silk&steel.htm
Florian Schmidt
Oscar Bearinger
david.no...@anka.fzk.de says...
>Try this one: Who wrote Beethoven's 5th symphony?
I think it was Lloyd somebody or other, wasn't it?
>Been a long day, huh? ;-)>
Yeah, the hours just keep creepin' by, eh?
foldedpath
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> FWIW, I just paid about $1000 more than the Sadowsky for a
> "Jim-Hall's-D'Aquisto-inspired" guitar built by Steve Holst, except
> mine has exquisite solid carved European tonewoods, and was built to
> my specs, including neck shape, scale length, fret size, etc. I
> posted a rather long review in another thread. You can see a shot of
> the guitar at http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/k200kr.htm . Of course,
> it doesn't have Jim Hall's name on it. . .
>
That's the problem I'd have with this new Sadowsky model also. It's too
close to the zone where you can get a handmade guitar, built exactly to
your specs.
Hello from a fellow Holst guitar owner, by the way. Here's the one I
took delivery on a few months ago:
http://www.pacinfo.com/~sholst/k250mb.htm
That was only $600 more than the Sadowsky Jim Hall model... with my
choice of tonewoods, pickups, and custom neck shape. I know Steve's full
hollowbody archtops cost more, but still... there are people out there
who can get you into a handmade, custom spec archtop guitar for
reasonable money. Sadowsky may have tried to price this new model just
under the "custom zone," but for me, it's just a little too close.
If the $3,895 is a "suggested list price" and it's going to actually
sell for less, then that's a different story I guess. The offshore
manufacturing and domestic setup/finishing work reminds me of Kenny
Hill's approach to marketing classical guitars, and he's shooting well
under the custom zone with the pricing on those.
BTW, I'll second everything you said about dealing with Steve Holst.
He's a great guy to work with... very knowledgeable, strongly
opinionated (a quality all good luthiers have), yet willing to work with
me on the qualities I wanted in the guitar. I loved receiving the two
alternate neck mockups so I could verify that it would feel good in my
hand. I don't know anyone else who does that. He also was willing to
tackle an RMC hex pickup installation for me, which I think was his
first one.
--
Mike Barrs
Gerry Scott-Moore
<ed_h...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Honestly, I was going to right a check, but then realized it wasn't a
solid top. That's kind of a requirement for me. But jeez it's
beautiful...
--
///---
Gerry Scott-Moore
And I didn't know that rounded and pointed cutaways were named Venetian
and Florentine respectively. Nor do I know where to come up with the
$6k...
--
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I could never keep those two names straight, until I figured out that
"Florentine" has a sharp sound when it rolls off your tongue, and
"Venetian" has a softer sound. :-)
Me, I like those sexy Venetian curves.
--
Mike Barrs
Margaret Wilson
pickup?
Regards,
Margaret
"foldedpath" <mba...@NOSPAM.nightviewer.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken Rose" <ken...@netvigator.com> wrote in
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>
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> Wow, that is an absolutely gorgeous guitar..... What exactly is an
> RMC hex pickup?
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
RMC pickups are a bridge-based piezo pickup system -- one pickup per
string.
There are models for Strats, Teles, Gibson Tune-O-Matic bridges, acoustic
guitars, and archtops. I think with an archtop wooden bridge, you use the
acoustic guitar pickup set, mounted in a replacement bridge/saddle.
It's one way to retrofit (or in this case "pre fit") a guitar so it can use
any of the "Roland Ready" gear like a GR-33 synthesizer, an Axon pitch-to-
Midi converter... or in my case, a Roland VG-88 modeling guitar FX unit.
It's what I use instead of an amp.
And I can still take the humbucker signal out of an endpin bridge jack, if
I want to play it as a normal guitar. With the money spent on this guitar,
I wanted to make sure it was still playable if I ever got tired of the
high-tech stuff. :-)
--
Mike Barrs
dunlop212
> ed,
>
> > Isn't it about double what one would expect to pay for a high end
> > asian laminate guitar?
>
> Is it MIJ? If so, then you're right - it's twice the amount.
>
> GReg
Call me a cynic, but "Each instrument sold direct by Sadowsky Guitars
will have all final fretwork and set-up performed by Roger and his
staff and will contain a label signed by Roger and Jim" equals
"everything else done offshore" in adspeak. It's like when they say
"solid spruce" you know it's pressed, not carved, because if it was
carved, they would say so. Plus, I read recently he's having some of
his basses done in Japan. If Sadowski's shop handcrafted this guitar,
that would be a terrific deal.
As another example, fatdawg at subway guitars does much the same thing
(asian bodies, finish work here), but charges $700. Now, there is no
comparison between the setup and fret work you get from Subway and
Sadowski; but we're talking a *huge* price difference. I'm not saying
it's a ripoff or anything, just that it's aggressively priced.
Tom Lippincott
yeah, it's my understanding that that's generally how he does things with his
solid body electrics as well. With that said, I have a friend with a Sadowsky
bass who has nothing but good things to say about the bass and Sadowsky's
service. He told me that whenever he's in NY he stops by Sadowsky's place and
Sadowsky always takes the time to check the bass out, tweak it, do any work
that needs doing, ect.
Tom Lippincott
Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
audio samples, articles, CD's at:
http://www.tomlippincott.com
8 string guitar audio samples at:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/tomlippincottmusic.htm
Greg D
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I think you mean, "aggressively over-priced" :) Yeah and FatDawg is the
bomb - if that term is not now passe'
Greg
Rick Ross
pre-constructed "elesewhere"....for that money Jim Triggs and will hand
carve you a beauty..right here in the USA..with fret markers too:)
David Moss
"thomas" wrote...
> David, I think you may have overlooked the following statement:
>
> "Each instrument sold direct by Sadowsky Guitars will have all final
> fretwork and set-up performed by Roger and his staff and will contain
> a label signed by Roger and Jim."
In fact I did see that, but I didn't get the implication of
your question - sorry!
> I'm sure they are very nice, but for that kind of money
> there are first-rate luthiers with slightly less illustrious
> names who will hand-build a solid wood guitar for you
> without any assistance from Mexico or Korea.
...for example my Henneken - only EUR 3000 and
guaranteed built completely by Markku Henneken
in person. Maybe I'll stick with that one after all!
Larry C.
Hello all,
First, I just wanted to say that all 3 of the Steven Holst guitars I
saw in this thread, gave me a woody. (Hand carved!!!) ;) They are all
beautiful. Especially the silk & steel. Kinda like a "Selmer-archtop".
Secondly, I guess I'll just have to wait awhile longer for my Borys
120 "Futura". It's been almost 2 years in the making, and it is a
maple laminate, but I know it's gonna be a great guitar. The design is
similar to the D'Aquisto "Centaura". BTW, Roger Borys is the one who
made the laminates (front & back)for Jim Hall's D'Aquisto, that
Sadowsky is attempting to clone. I'm sure the Sadowsky J.H. model will
be a nice axe, but almost $4000., and made in Japan? I dunno...
Larry Camp
visit my website at: www.larrycamp.com
NATHANIEL NAJAR
"Larry C." <lawr...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Blue Monk
where the darn thing is being built...after all, he is the one that started
this particular thread, in regards to a previous thread.
On 8/06/03 22:08, in article
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Margaret Wilson
it's built, it sure is beautiful. And looks are free! :-)
Regards,
Margaret
"Blue Monk" <noemai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Steven Rosenberg
and seem very well-priced.
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Holger Weber
"Blue Monk" <noemai...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Well you'd figure Roger Sadowsky would have interjected by now and
clarified
> where the darn thing is being built...after all, he is the one that
started
> this particular thread, in regards to a previous thread.
That'll teach him. <eg>
Holger
Pablo Rocha
you selling it?,
Pablo.
lawr...@msn.com (Larry C.) wrote in message news:<f8632a6c.03080...@posting.google.com>...
David Moss
"Margaret Wilson" wrote...
> He's probably sorry he started the thread now. ;-)
> No matter where or how it's built, it sure is beautiful.
> And looks are free! :-)
There's still that statement "In addition, Roger and Jim
were both committed to the idea that this would have
to be a guitar that Jim would personally play, not just
endorse."
If Jim's really going to be playing this one, that's
good enough for me - I don't care where it's made!
Roger Sadowsky
have been raised.
The Sadowsky Jim Hall guitar is being made at the best archtop
workshop in Japan under the supervision of the head of my Sadowsky
Tokyo workshop, Yoshi Kikuchi.
There are several reasons I am making this is Japan:
1) This guitar is being made with 5 ply laminated "plates" (tops and
backs) because :
a) that is what D'Aquisto used on his laminated guitars
b) that is what Jim Hall plays
c) Jim and I and many other players believe that a laminated top
sounds superior to a solid wood top when played through an amplifier
d) the single most successful jazz guitar in history is the ES175 and
that is a laminated guitar.
e) we wanted a guitar that a working musician would be comfortable
playing on gigs, not a guitar for collectors.
2) I tried all of the laminated tops available to builders (from both
the US and Germany) and none of them met my standards
3) My workshop in Japan has the veneer and the veneer press capable of
making the plates exactly to my specifications.
If any of you want a solid wood carved top----please get one from many
of my friends and colleagues who already do a great job making this
type of archtop. Campallone, Bourgeois, Triggs, Grimes, Monteleone
and many others are my friends and I highly respect their work. I
also encourage you to go this route if you like the process of
ordering a custom made guitar. I am not trying to compete with them.
However, I will point out than several of them have made guitars with
the same plates that I find unacceptable and have sold them for
upwards of $8K or more. Jimmy D'Aquisto's last batch of plywood
guitars, before he died, went for $12K.
I am doing quite a bit of instrument making in Japan right now and
believe me, Japan is just as expensive for manufacturing as the US.
If I were looking to make a cheap "asian" guitar, I would be making
them in Korea or China. I am making them in Japan because that is
where the best artisans are and that is where I have an experienced
assistant overseeing the quality control (remember---Japan is a
country where artisans are designated by the government as "national
treasures"). Some of the things that set this guitar apart from other
archtops, even those made in Japan, are:
a) nitrocellulose finish
b) custom made laminate plates
c) highest quality flamed maple veneers
d) all US electronic components, including my custom designed pickup.
e) a very refined and comfortable neck shape
f) my experience as a guitar maker, repairman and designer
g) my relationship with Jim Hall and many other high caliber players
I respect that everyone has different likes and opinions. This guitar
will stand on its' own merits and until more of you have had an
opportunity to try it, I would request that you be somewhat gentle in
judging it. Every instrument I sell will be shipped on 7 day
approval.
I believe that this guitar represents real value at it's price point.
I had one customer, who owns a D'Aquisto and a Fender D'Aquisto, try
one of the earlier prototypes. After playing it, he said to me "I was
prepared to play this for a few minutes and give you a polite 'this is
nice' response and be on my way. But I would like to give you a
deposit for one right now. The guitar is extraordinary". I hope more
of you will have the opportunity to try the guitar and feel the same
way. I am very proud of this guitar.
Best regards,
Roger Sadowsky
David Moss
keep cool and courteous in the face of (unjustified)
criticism!
Humble suggestion: put this stuff on your
website, maybe with some pictures of the guys
in Japan and their workshop. I think some of the "rough
treatment" was because of the lack of this information,
that creates the impression that you're ashamed of
where the guitar's being built.
"Roger Sadowsky" wrote...
Bob R
ro...@sadowsky.com wrote on 8/7/03 4:58 PM:
Nothing like *actual information* to advance a discussion! Thanks, Roger.
--
Bob Russell
http://www.bobrussellguitar.com
CD, "Watch This!", available at:
http://www.cdbaby.com/bobrussell
skrohn
were in stock so I could check one out.
He replied that he is taking delivery of some after the 15th.
Triggs farms out a large part of the work too.
And they are substantially more money from what I've seen.
To the point, I agree that you could probably get an instrument that
is created by the lutier that you contracted with for less.
I did play a plywood 7 string Moll this week that was less
money and very nice.
"Rick Ross" <rickro...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<mfkYa.10550$jg.30...@news1.news.adelphia.net>...
Richard Bornman
understood
why people don't seem to mind that...
Max Leggett
That's my only gripe about my Epi JP. I keep meaning to get some nail
polish remover and at least have a clean pickguard.
Richard Bornman
"Max Leggett" <mleg...@nospam.ca> wrote:
> That's my only gripe about my Epi JP. I keep meaning to get some nail
> polish remover and at least have a clean pickguard.
>
I actually hate all labels on the damn instrument. I have an old
Ibanez roadstar that I actually sanded the brand name off of, I hated
it so much.
Larry Hogan
> Well you'd figure Roger Sadowsky would have interjected by now and clarified
> where the darn thing is being built...after all, he is the one that started
> this particular thread, in regards to a previous thread.
Hi, FYI...
I'm supposing that Roger Sadowsky will not mind my posting his
response here to my very same questions we are all thinking about.
(Meaning nothing Top Secret here or anything.) I emailed him late
last night, and he was most forthcoming and quick in responding by
noon to my rather lengthy email. My questions (<< ) are followed by
his answers (•). (If I'm committing any breach of internet ettiquette,
please forgive me.)
Cheers,
Larry Hogan
" Hi Larry,
Thanks for your email.
I will try to answer all of your questions.
<< 1) It appears that your bodies and necks are *entirely* carved and
shaped by you and/or the staff, correct?
• First of all, the "plates" (top and back) are not carved at all as
they are
laminated maple veneer, like Jim's D'Aquisto. They are arched in a
heat
press. I am convinced, that for playing through and amp and for
roadworthy stability, a 5 ply laminate is superior to a solid wood
carved top.
<< 2) Will the Jim Hall model's body/neck, etc. then be built on
premises? (I ask this since the hollow-body model *appears* to be a
newer endeavor of yours.)
• The entire guitar is being built in the best archtop factory in
Japan under
the supervision of the head of my Sadowsky Tokyo shop. I tried to
build
this guitar in the US for 2 years and gave up. I had to work with a
factory
that had the ability to make the plywood plates to my specifications.
<< 3) From the website Tour, it also appears that the woodwork
staining and finishing etc. might be done at another location—perhaps
by other artisans you employ. Is that correct? (As in "...sands a body
to perfection so it can be sent out for finishing.") The JH model,
too?
• The guitar is finished in the same factory that is making it. We
are using
nitro.
<< Concerning the Jim Hall model, quote: "After numerous prototypes,
Roger continued to refine the guitar by reducing the thickness of the
plates to provide a more acoustic response, reducing the depth to
control feedback, designing a new ebony tailpiece with a string
ground..."
<< 4A) What does reducing the thickness of the "plates" refer to? I've
never
heard the term "plates" before (although on a carved top, of course,
the top is scraped, etc.) Might this refer to the plywood thickness?
• Plates is luthierspeak for the top and back of an instrument.
<< 4B) What is a "string ground"? Is this just grounding the guitar
electrically—and if so, how do other builders ground their guitars?
• The string ground is just the way of connecting the strings to the
electronics so there is a reduction in hum when you touch the
strings. This is no problem with a metal tailpiece. But many of the
archtops with floating pickups and controls on the pickguard have no
string ground at all.
<< 5) Is the tailpiece height-adjustable for string tension? (I
noticed that
Jim's D'Aguisto was height-adjustable when I got to try it—he had his
set
pretty high that day—and the string tension was *very* light when
compared to my 1985 Fender D'Aguisto Elite—a similar-type of
instrument, build-wise.) In keeping with Jim's guitar, I would hope
the tailpiece is height-adjustable.
• The tailpiece is not height adjustable. Jim and I decided against
this.
<< 6) I've also heard that Jim uses fairly light gauge strings. As
"standard",
will the guitar be shipped as per one set up for Jim's own preferences
(strings and action, etc.)?
• The guitars are initially setup with Jim's 11-52 flatwounds. But I
will
individually setup each guitar for the purchaser, with whatever
strings they
want.
<< 7) Do you make your own pickups, or are they contracted out as per
your specifications? (and by whom?)
• This pickup is made to my specs at DiMarzio, based on the pickup in
Jim's guitar.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Best regards,
Roger Sadowsky
---
Sadowsky Guitars Ltd.
20 Jay Street #5C
Brooklyn, NY 11201
Tel: 718 422-1123
Fax: 718 422-1120
<http://www.sadowsky.com>
Hours: Mon-Fri 9AM-6PM
Greg D
Good post. Answers all the questions.
gReg
thom_j.
"NATHANIEL NAJAR" <nate...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Larry, I don't ever want to think about you getting a woody again!
> Nate
was it really a "woody?" or a "tooth'picky?" :8^D'... t.j.
florian schmidt
I have a heritage Les Paul where somebody managed to break the headstock.
I had a replacemend done by a local luthier and i could just say
"Make it plain without a brandname or something". So i saved the hassle of
sanding ;)
Florian Schmidt
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I like the way Gibson did it on my Pat Martino signature model. The name is
on the bell-shaped plastic truss rod adjustment cover. If you don't want to
see the "Pat Martino" name staring out at you from the headstock, you can
just replace that cover with a blank one. And it's easily restored to stock
condition, if you ever sell the guitar.
--
Mike Barrs
Larry C.
> Hello Larry, and what about your Devoe? you dont like it any more? Are
> you selling it?,
> Pablo.
Pablo,
I absolutely still love my Devoe guitars. As a matter of fact, he
is making me a new carved-top 16", 2 & 1/2" depth, built-in pickup,
honeyburst, 25" scale, 1 & 3/4" @ nut archtop guitar. (it's part of
our endorsment deal)
I actually ordered the Borys "Futura" before I met Tom Devoe.
Besides, Tom is cool with the fact that I own and play guitars other
than his. Heck, I just ordered a new Selmer-type guitar called an
"Encore" from Canadian luthier Shelly Park.
And Nate, as to the mental image of me getting a woody...just dwell
on it, dwell on it, dwell on it.....:0
And Tee-Jay, let's just say that when Peter North needs a stand in-
body double it's me they call........(not){8^)>
Larry Camp
www.larrycamp.com
tomw
richard...@ozemail.com.au says...
> I would HATE having another players signature on my guitar!! Never
> understood
> why people don't seem to mind that...
>
>
>
Another guitar ruined. My guitar is all about me.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
dunlop212
at least since the late 60s, probably earlier, are noticeable heavier
than the early ones. I recently got a look at my late 40s ES-300
(another laminate guitar) with the pickup removed, and the sheets are
almost paper thin. I wonder if the old 175s (Hall, of course, played
one for much of his career) have the same sort of thin plates?
I don't think there is any "unfair criticism" of the guitar or
Sadowsky in this thread, but just for myself, I think Sadowky's e-mail
does a better job of describing the guitar than his ad, which
demonstrably leads inexperienced buyers to infer that it was
domestically made, painted, carved, or whatever. I didn't infer any of
those things from the ad, but I was having difficulty seeing what made
it an almost 4K guitar. Honestly, if I didn't already have a very
favorable impression of Sadowsky from his prior excellent work, I
would have dismissed it as cheese. The e-mail helped me understand his
price point better.
Rick Ross
are carved and built totally in his shop...
"skrohn" <skr...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:65b56150.03080...@posting.google.com...
David Moss
"tomw" wrote...
> How about when famous players autograph guitars?
> Another guitar ruined. My guitar is all about me.
I'm enjoying the mental picture of you
running away screaming, your guitar in
your arms, pursued by a baying pack
of jazz guitar megastars with their pens
at the ready...
Kevin Van Sant
<david.no...@anka.fzk.de> wrote in message
<bh0c3u$svsgu$1...@ID-90151.news.uni-berlin.de> :
That time in Montreux when George Benson played my guitar Ben (the
bassist) had him autograph his bass. When he had finished I thought I
would have him sign my gig bag so I said "hey George can you do one
more?" George looked shocked, thinking I meant the guitar, and said
"no man! not the L5!" He was happy to sign the bag, it's long since
worn off though. I think that pen, even though it was a sharpie,
wasn't too permanent.
Later back in the States, Ben and I were on a gig together when "Blue
Lou" Marini stopped by and sat in. Ben asked Blue Lou to sign that
same bass. By then the GB autograph had faded and Blue Lou accidently
started signing over GB's signature. Ben noticed this a little too
late and when he told Blue Lou, Blue Lou then wrote "sorry George" on
the bass and then signed it again off to the side.
_________________________________________
Kevin Van Sant
jazz guitar
http://www.kevinvansant.com
to buy my CDs, listen to sound clips, and get more info.
Alternate site for recent soundclips
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/kevinvansant_music.htm
tomw
david.no...@anka.fzk.de says...
"autographs" is on ebay, where I find unusually high prices attached to
guitars that have been defaced.
HotchkissTrio
maple is not the best for a soundboard. If it was a solid spruce top
with laminated maple back/sides, that would be great, but for nearly
$4K and a laminate maple top? I dunno, I'd at least want a pressed
spruce top for that much.
I really like the finish though.
-Paul
tomb...@jhu.edu (thomas) wrote in message news:<7d424f23.03080...@posting.google.com>...
> David, I think you may have overlooked the following statement:
>
> "Each instrument sold direct by Sadowsky Guitars will have all final
> fretwork and set-up performed by Roger and his staff and will contain
> a label signed by Roger and Jim."
>
> It is clear from this that Roger is doing what many other name
> luthiers are
> now doing. They contract out the major construction of their budget
> model
> to an overseas shop, exert some degree of quality control over the
> product
> that comes back, and then resell the guitars with "the name" on the
> headstock.
> Nothing wrong with that, but a prospective buyer spending nearly four
> grand will want to know who actually built his guitar and how much
> work
> "the name" actually put into it.
>
> It sounds to me as if you would be spending nearly four grand on a
> plywood
> guitar that is mostly built in an offshore factory. I'm sure they are
> very nice, but for that kind of money there are first-rate luthiers
> with slightly less illustrious names who will hand-build a solid wood
> guitar for you without any assistance from Mexico or Korea.
>
> Nothing against Roger--he is known for quality product and I'm
> sure these are nice guitars. But know what you are getting for
> your four grand.
>
>
>
> "David Moss" <david.no...@anka.fzk.de> wrote in message news:<bgqqjs$rt834$1...@ID-90151.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > "thomas" wrote...
> > > Where is the guitar built, and by whom?
> >
> > Well, by Roger Sadowsky - as the "Sadowsky
> > Guitars is extremely proud to announce" in the
> > original posting would appear to imply...
> >
> > And as to where it's built: In Brooklyn, according
> > to the address given in the original posting.
> >
> > Been a long day, huh? ;-)
> >
> > Try this one: Who wrote Beethoven's 5th symphony?
Pablo Rocha
to post pictures of all of them on your page? It would be great.
take care,
Pablo R.
lawr...@msn.com (Larry C.) wrote in message news:<f8632a6c.03080...@posting.google.com>...
HotchkissTrio
guitar and has my favorite finish (violin like with no white binding
on the body)
Laminated guitars do have some advantages, less feedback, less chance
of warping or cracking if not kept in perfect humidity conditions etc,
more robust in many ways. And, based on the other Japanese guitars
I've played (Alvarez Yari acoustics, Ibanez top line models (The John
Scofield 335)) I think that in many ways the Japanese craftsmanship is
superior to several of the US builders.
My only comment would be in regards to pricing. At $3800 for a
laminate, I would personally rather go after a custom carved guitar
for that price. However, there are an awful lot of people who buy
Gibson 175's each year for $3500 or more, and if I was choosing
between that and your Jim Hall model, I'd have to go with your guitar.
Will these guitars be in stores, or special order only? I would love
to try one out some time.
-Paul H.
ro...@sadowsky.com (Roger Sadowsky) wrote in message news:<4da46edf.0308...@posting.google.com>...
Bob R
paulyho...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/8/03 6:33 PM:
> At $3800 for a
> laminate, I would personally rather go after a custom carved guitar
> for that price. However, there are an awful lot of people who buy
> Gibson 175's each year for $3500 or more, and if I was choosing
> between that and your Jim Hall model, I'd have to go with your guitar.
That's more how I'd look at it. The solid carved top thing is a personal
preference; not everyone (take Jim Hall, for example) would view that as
desirable. A lot of people prefer the sound of a set-in pickup on a
laminated guitar; Jimmy D'Aquisto obviously understood that. When Sadowsky's
guitar is compared to a new 175, I'm thinking that price doesn't look out of
line. Of course, till we get to play 'em, we're all just whistling Dixie.