Stephen Stills Alt tuning
Michael James Richard Brown
I found this in Guitar World Acoustic No 47
Stephen Stills 4+20. tuning EEEEBE (low to high)
(b is only unaltered string) 48 bpm
Left the bar lines out but each block is as bar.
Hope that it posts and makes some sort of sense,
it took me ages to do it as it is the first time
I've tried putting tab in a post.
Michael B
A Intro (0:00)
1 E Esus
_______7___________________5_________________
______________9____________________7_________
_______________|_____0______________|______0___
________0______|__0__|______0________|___0__|____
________|___0___|__|__|_______|____0___|____|__|____
____0___|___|____|__|__|____0__|____|____|___|___|___
|___| |====|==|==| |___| |===|===|===|
2 E IV
__4_______________________________4_________________
_______________5_________2__0_____|______5__________
________0______|____0________|______|______|________0_
_____0__|_______|__0__|________|_____|_______|____0___|__
_____|___|____0__|__|___|_______|__0__|________|____|___|__
__0__|___|____|___|__|___|____0__|__|___|___0____|___|____|__
|__|===| |===|==|==| |==|==|==| |====|===|===|
B Verses (0:07, 0:48, 1:28)
3 E Esus
_______7___________________5_________________
______________9____________________7_________
_______________|_____0______________|______0___
________0______|__0__|______0________|___0__|____
________|___0___|__|__|_______|____0___|____|__|____
____0___|___|____|__|__|____0__|____|____|___|___|___
|___| |====|==|==| |___| |===|===|===|
4 E IV
__4_______________________________4_________________
_______________5_________2__0_____|______5__________
________0______|____0________|______|______|________0_
_____0__|_______|__0__|________|_____|_______|____0___|__
_____|___|____0__|__|___|_______|__0__|________|____|___|__
__0__|___|____|___|__|___|____0__|__|___|___0____|___|____|__
|__|===| |===|==|==| |==|==|==| |====|===|===|
5 E Esus
______7___________________5_________________
______________9____________________7_________
_______________|_____0______________|______0___
________0______|__0__|______0________|___0__|____
________|___0___|__|__|_______|____0___|____|__|____
____0___|___|____|__|__|___0___|____|____|___|___|___
|___| |====|==|==| |___| |===|===|===|
6 E IV
__4_______________________________4_________________
_______________5_________2__0_____|______5__________
________0______|____0________|______|______|________0_
_____0__|_______|__0__|________|_____|_______|____0___|__
_____|___|____0__|__|___|_______|__0__|________|____|___|__
__0__|___|____|___|__|___|____0__|__|___|___0____|___|____|__
|__|===| |===|==|==| |==|==|==| |====|===|===|
7 G6 Asus2
_______________0_____________________0________________
__0_____________|_______0_____________|__________________
________3_______|_____________5_______|_______0___________
_____0__|________|___0______0__|________|___0___|___________
_____|___|____3___|___|_______|__|____5___|____|___|___________
__3__|___|____|____|___|___5___|__|____|____|____|___|__________
|__|===| |===|____| |___|==| |===|===|===|
8 A7 (no3)
___10_______10_________________10_________________________
________12___|______12______0__________0_______0___________
_____________|_______|_______|___________|________|_______0___
_________0___|_______|___0___|_______0___|________|___0___|____
_________|___|____0___|___|___|_____0__|___|_____0__|___|____|____
____0____|___|____|____|___|___|_____|___|___|_____|__|___|____|____
|____|===| |===|===|===| |___|===|
|==|===|===|
9 G6 Asus2
_______________0_____________________0_____________
__0_____________|_______0_____________|______________
________3_______|_____________5_______|_______0_____
_____0__|________|___0______0__|________|___0___|______
_____|___|____3___|___|_______|__|____5___|____|___|_____
__3__|___|____|____|___|___5___|__|____|____|____|___|______
|__|===| |===|____| |___|==| |===|===|===|
10 E7 (no3)
___10_______10_________________10_________________________
________12___|______12______0__________0_______12_________
_____________|_______|_______|___________|________|__________
_________0___|_______|___0___|_______0___|________|___0______
_________|___|____0___|___|___|_____0__|___|_____0__|___|_______
____0____|___|____|____|___|___|_____|___|___|_____|__|___|_______
|____|===| |===|===|===| |___|===| |==|___|
________________________________________________________>
| 1.,2
11 G6 Asus2
_______________0_____________________(0)_____________
__0_____________|_______0_____________0______________
________3_______|_____________5_______|_______0_____
_____0__|________|___0______0__|________|___0___|______
_____|___|____3___|___|_______|__|____5___|____|___|_____
__3__|___|____|____|___|___5___|__|____|____|____|___|______
|__|===| |===|____| |___|==| |===|===|===|
____________________________________________________>
12 E7 (no3)
___10_______10_________________10.__________________
________12___|______12______0___________________
_____________|_______|_______|______________0________
_________0___|_______|___0___|___________0___|___
_________|___|____0___|___|___|____________|___|____
____0____|___|____|____|___|___|_____0._____|___|_______
|____|===| |===|===|===| |===|
_______________________________________________________>
13 E Esus2
________7______________5___________________
______________9____________________7_________
______________|_____0______________|______0___
________0_____|__0__|______0________|___0__|____
________|___0__|__|__|_______|____0___|____|__|____
____0___|___|__|___|__|____0__|____|____|___|___|___
|___| |==|===|==| |___| |===|===|===|
____________________________________________________
14 E IV
2. A|
__4_______________________________4_________________
_______________5_________2__0_____|______5__________
________0______|____0________|______|______|________0_
_____0__|_______|__0__|________|_____|_______|____0___|__
_____|___|____0__|__|___|_______|__0__|________|____|___|__
__0__|___|____|___|__|___|____0__|__|___|___0____|___|____|__
|__|===| |===|==|==| |==|==|==| |====|===|===|
________________________________________________________
| 3.
15 G6 Asus2
__________________0________________________0_____________
___________________|__________0_____________|______________
___________3_______|_______0________5_______|_______0_____
________0__|________|___0___|______0__|_______|___0___|______
________|___|____3_ _|__ _|___|__ ____|__|____5___|___|__ _|_____
_____3__|___|____|___|___ |___ |___5__|__|___ _|___|_ __|__ _|__
|__|===| |===|===|===| |__|==| |===|===|===|
16 E7 (no3)
___10______________________________10.______(10)______
____________________12______________|_________|_______
____________0________|_______0_______|_________|______
_________0__ |________|___0___|________|_________|_____
_________|___|____0___|___|___|_________|_________|_____
____0____|___|____|__ _|___|___|_____0.___|_________|____
|____|===| |===|===|===| |=---| |
jmpruvot
> Stephen Stills 4+20. tuning EEEEBE (low to high)
> (b is only unaltered string) 48 bpm
There's probably a little mistake, for me it's better EBEEBE or DADDAD
Hi there
Jean-Marie
gearhead
"jmpruvot" <jmpr...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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I've seen that EEEEBE tuning published myself and it sure seems like a
really hard way to play a tune that plays easily in DADF#AD.
JD
Jim Page
I saw in a CSN&Y video a segment from an old TV show where Stills played 4+20
in what appeared to be dropped-D tuning.
So that's how I've always played it, as the bass line can be found quite easily
that way.
--Jim
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Greg Thomas
> I saw in a CSN&Y video a segment from an old TV show where Stills played
4+20
> in what appeared to be dropped-D tuning.
Actually, Stills used the 'weird E' tuning for Suite Judy Blue Eyes as well.
Years ago I read an interview with him where he talked about various
tunings. He said he got this one from Bruce Palmer, bass player from his
Buffalo Springfield days.
Greg
JK2475
how I play it anyways.
I can't believe anyone could make sense out of that EEEEBE stuff. What octaves
of E are the 5th, 4th, and 3rd strings tuned to?
JK
mcdonald
> Actually, Stills used the 'weird E' tuning for Suite Judy Blue Eyes as well.
> Years ago I read an interview with him where he talked about various
> tunings. He said he got this one from Bruce Palmer, bass player from his
> Buffalo Springfield days.
Bingo! Stills has confirmed this several times, in magazine interviews,
documentaries, etc. This topic comes up around here every 6 months or so, and
the peanut gallery always chimes in with its favorite tunings, but EEEEBE is
indeed the tuning Stills used for both 4+20 and Suite: Judy Blue Eyes, and he
attributes it to Bruce Palmer, just as you say.
mcd
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>"jmpruvot" <jmpr...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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>
>> > Stephen Stills 4+20. tuning EEEEBE (low to high)
>> > (b is only unaltered string) 48 bpm
>>
>> There's probably a little mistake, for me it's better EBEEBE or
>> DADDAD
>
>I've seen that EEEEBE tuning published myself and it sure seems like a
>really hard way to play a tune that plays easily in DADF#AD.
I play it in DADGAD.
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fingering when it falls right to hand in open E or D.
JD
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Z. Skarland
Stupid question maybe, but do you use conventional string gauges for this tuning?
-zeke
mcdonald
> Stupid question maybe, but do you use conventional string gauges for this
> tuning?
I don't think it's stupid at all, having wondered the same thing.
Unfortunately I've never seen Stills address the issue of string gauges. I
solve this problem by "reinscribing what I can't surpass". I normally keep
one of my guitars dedicated to "D family" tunings (e.g. DADGAD or Open D) and
for this song I tune the G string down to D. That gives me DADDAD which if
capoed up 2 frets would be EBEEBE. The song seems to work just fine in this
tuning, so eventually I stopped wondering about Stills' choice of string
gauges. The song can even be played pretty well in DADGAD or Open D, but
having the G string tuned down to D gives it that really nice unison/modal
kind of sound.
Whenever I change the tuning to do this song, I follow it up with Patty
Griffin's "You Are Not Alone". I don't think she uses this tuning, but it
works really well. Both songs have a wonderful haunting kind of feeling.
mcd
"rework what others have exhausted"
Lumpy
> ..."reinscribing what I can't surpass"...
I have no idea what this means, but I
know it impresses lawyers and such.
So I agree..:-)
oblig gc:
I play the Stills stuff in EBeebe'
But I'm gonna try dropping that 5th string.
I like the stuff Stills does on his album -
"Acoustic Side/Electric Side"
lumpy
mcdonald
> mcdonald wrote:
>> ..."reinscribing what I can't surpass"...
>
> I have no idea what this means, but I
> know it impresses lawyers and such.
> So I agree..:-)
Yes, I was delighted to see that my random signature generator was able to
provide him with that much amusement. Once I get the random number generator
installed, it should be able to keep him entertained for months at a time.
> oblig gc:
>
> I play the Stills stuff in EBeebe'
> But I'm gonna try dropping that 5th string.
>
> I like the stuff Stills does on his album -
> "Acoustic Side/Electric Side"
I don't see many people talking about Stills, but I've always thought he was
a hellofa guitar player. Even going all the way back to Buffalo Springfield,
and all the cool stuff he did with a wah wah pedal.
mcd
"recast the familiar until it demands explanation"
Timothy530
>was
>a hellofa guitar player. Even going all the way back to Buffalo Springfield,
>
>and all the cool stuff he did with a wah wah pedal.
Just caught Stills @ Belterra Casino.....his guitar playing kicked butt....he
still has the chops....one surprise was when strapped on his Martin D45SS in
DADDAD and proceeded to entertain the audience with a solo version of "Man of
Constant Sorrow". Always a underated player in my opinion.
tim
Michael James Richard Brown
"> > Stupid question maybe, but do you use conventional string gauges for
this
> > tuning?
>
about what guage strings and which octaves
were used. With standard strings you would
probably have trouble getting an acceptable
tension on all of them.
Michael B