Re: More Hatto Monkey Business (from Farhan)
Rugby
Walter Traprock
> 6 Paganini/Liszt Etudes = Yuri Didenko on Vista Vera.
> (My thanks to Norihiko Nagata for eliminating many possibilities on
> this one)
http://www.amazon.com/Liszt-Grandes-Paganini-Schubert-Liszt-Rachmaninov/dp/B0002ITJB6/
?
> Ernani Paraphrase = Herbert De Plessis on Pavane
http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Liszt-Paraphrases-and-Transcriptions/
?
> Reminiscences de Norma = Boris Bloch on Accord
> Reminiscences de Lucia di Lammermoor = Boris Bloch on Accord
> Sacred Dance and Final Duet from Aida = Boris Bloch on Accord
> Rigoletto Paraphrase = Boris Bloch on Accord
> Miserere du Trovatore = Boris Bloch on Accord
http://www.amazon.com/Lisztz-5-Paraphrases-DOpéras-Italiens/dp/B000004CD2/
? the thug made a clean sweep of the boris.
There appears to be sound samples and a catalog number of the boris
bloch at allmusic.com
Whatever the endre hegedus non-wagner liszt operatic transcriptions are:?
http://www.amazon.com/Transcriptions-Liszt/dp/B00008F6IS/
?
> (This completes identification of all the Hatto Liszt Opera
> Transcriptions)
All out of print. You little labels better quit deleting stuff, as
a thief is more likely to steal your release if you delete it.
Walter Traprock
Walter Traprock <wetra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 6 Paganini/Liszt Etudes = Yuri Didenko on Vista Vera.
> > (My thanks to Norihiko Nagata for eliminating many possibilities on
> > this one)
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Liszt-Grandes-Paganini-Schubert-Liszt-Rachmaninov/dp/B0002ITJB6/
OK, this is available thru amazon or ebay from RussianDVD, but this is
the liszt hatto item i'm not interested in.
RussianDVD is slightly misnamed as they seem to be reliable, selling new
CDs of special stuff. RussianDVD is a good one.
mal...@concentric.net
Beethoven/Liszt Symphony #6 is not the recording by Scherbakov on
Naxos. The playing is different in all five tracks. Also, I checked
the Hatto Chopin Waltzes against Cziffra and can say that none of the
first six match Hatto. The Waltz #20 in F# minor comes from the
Sterczynski CD on Selene. I checked if Waltz #1 also comes from this
CD and it does not. Perhaps some of the other posthumous waltzes do
but I haven't had time to compare them yet.
Farhan
Alan Briker
On 5/15/07 1:50 PM, in article
1179251436....@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com, "Rugby"
<steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone ID's her Chopin Etudes yet?
MrT
Farhan, do you have access to Szekely's recording of the waltzes on
Amadis? I found striking similarities from very poor-quality samples
on the Internet, but have not been able to listen to Szekely complete
and in good sound. Given the deviousness of WB-C, I think comparing
with the original sound source is de rigueur.
Best,
MrT
Alan Cooper
A big thanks on the Waltzes, Farhan. Do you like the "Hatto" perfomances as much as I do?
Sterczynski was one of my candidates for checking, but I wasn't able to lay my hands on a
copy of his CD. Is it currently available anywhere? Is the artist still performing
actively? The one CD of his that I have--two sets of variations by Reger and Szymanowski,
respectively, on CdM--is excellent.
AC
Phil Caron
>
> I saved up a bunch of Hatto identifications
>
> At least 25 Beethoven Sonatas are by John O'Conor.
Wow. The Hatto release got raves. I don't remember that the O'Conor set
did, but I'd welcome opinions on it now. Especially from opinionated
opiners.
- Phil Caron
ckho...@ckhowell.com
>
> Wow. The Hatto release got raves. I don't remember that the O'Conor set
> did, but I'd welcome opinions on it now. Especially from opinionated
> opiners.
>
> - Phil Caron
I don't know if I count as an opinionated opiner but the two Hatto
volumes I reviewed got respectful rather than rave reviews from.
I've now heard all the O'Conor cycle and my opinionated opinations, if
that's the word, will appear on MusicWeb in due course.
Rather more interesting, since this cycle is between 20 and 15 years
old, is the fact that O'Conor set down two of the concertos in January
of this year and will finish the cycle by 2008. An artist may develop
a lot in that time.
Christopher Howell
mal...@concentric.net
> > I saved up a bunch ofHattoidentifications
>
> > At least 25 Beethoven Sonatas are by John O'Conor.
>
> did, but I'd welcome opinions on it now. Especially from opinionated
> opiners.
The Hatto Beethoven Sonatas are going to need a bit more
investigation. It's starting to look like there are different
versions of some of the Hatto volumes. It may actually be the case
that on one Hatto CD the Beethoven Sonata Op. xxx is by O'Conor but on
another person's copy of that same Hatto CD Beethoven Sonata Op. xxx
is not by O'Conor. No confirmation on this yet.
Either way, it is clear that O'Conor is used as the source for a
significant number of Hatto's Beethoven Sonatas.
ckho...@ckhowell.com
doubtless be seized upon as evidence of WusicWeb's "standards".
But my reason for coming back here is to point out that there was an
earlier Hatto or "Hatto" cycle on cassette and also planned for
release on minidisk back in 1998, as I mention in an appendix to the
review. Chronologically it could still be O'Conor but I don't think it
can be since it has some extra pieces which certainly aren't from
O'Conor.
I wonder if collectors with long memories could give a look at the
details below and see if those extras point to any cycle in
particular. Indeed, info about ANY recording of the sonata completed
by Ries would be interesting.
Of course, if the cassettes go back to the 1980s they could even be
what they say they are. Until a copy can be located we can only guess.
Here it is:
Volume 1: op. 2/1-2, Sonata in C minor (completed by Ries), Sonata in
A major, Anh. 5/1
Volume 2: op. 2/3, op. 7
Volume 3: op. 10, Rondo op. 51/1
Volume 4: op. 13, op. 14, Fantasia in G minor op. 77
Volume 5: op. 27, op. 28, Andante favori
Volume 6: op. 22, op. 26, Rondo op. 129
Volume 7: op. 31/1-2
Volume 8: op. 31/3, op. 49, op. 53
Volume 9: op. 54, op. 57, op. 78, op. 79
Volume 10: op. 81a, op. 90, op. 101
Volume 11: op. 106, op. 109
Volume 12: op. 110, op. 111, Rondo op. 51/2
The numbers were BE4-TC-8001 through to 8012.
Christopher Howell
aleksios
> My O'Conor review is now posted on MusicWeb with a few typos
> that will doubtless be seized upon as evidence of WusicWeb's
> "standards".
Now, who would be such a wuthwess wascaw to woguishwy seize some
twifwing ewwows onwy to waugh at WusicWeb's witewawy standawds?
Especiawwy now, in the best season to hunt wabbits? Kiww the wabbit!
Kiww the wabbit! Yo ho to ho! Yo ho to ho!...
--Alex (the animated philistine)
dk
Mr. O'Conor was not dying of cancer ;-)
dk
MrT
> The Hatto Beethoven Sonatas are going to need a bit more
> investigation. It's starting to look like there are different
> versions of some of the Hatto volumes. It may actually be the case
> that on one Hatto CD the Beethoven Sonata Op. xxx is by O'Conor but on
> another person's copy of that same Hatto CD Beethoven Sonata Op. xxx
> is not by O'Conor. No confirmation on this yet.
You could say the Barrington-Coupe's Assisted Reproduction Machine
provides the consumer with a wide variety of choices... I wonder if
one could turn this into a concept. The guy evidently has ideas but
he's such an asshole that he can only put them into practice as a
crook.
Best,
mrt