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Jan 31, 2006, 9:11:58 PM1/31/06
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aus...@gmail.com wrote:
> Not the best start testing the F1 Ferrari racer, did'nt finish but 1
> lap....
>
> I think it had cold tires, wet track and he was trying to back it into
> the corner MotoGP style?
>
> http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Formula1/Primo_Piano/2006/01_Gennaio/31/rossi1.shtml
>
> Gets another go tommorow
>

Yeah, I'd imagine there are few guys in the MGP paddock that hopes he
keeps going!

This old Bob

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Feb 1, 2006, 2:28:44 PM2/1/06
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<aus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not the best start testing the F1 Ferrari racer, did'nt finish but 1
> lap....
>
> I think it had cold tires, wet track and he was trying to back it into
> the corner MotoGP style?
>
> http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Formula1/Primo_Piano/2006/01_Gennaio/31/rossi1.shtml
>
> Gets another go tommorow

Anyone got a better translator than google? Here is what theirs spit out
from that link

Red, testacoda to the first turn
Test of Valencia with the humid track for the rain: Valentino exits from the
box to the 16,35 and after 10 curves it ends outside. Ferrari in the
suspended sand and tests. The fastest Barrichello

Valentino Red, 26, fifth Ferrari test. Reuters
VALENCIA (Spain), 31 January a 2006 - Not even turn. Begun E' late and is
duration a lot little (for hour) the first Red adventure of Valentino in F.1
with to the other pilots, in the collective test of Valencia. Before the
rain, than has held it firm until advanced afternoon. Then a testacoda,
after sun 10 curves, in the first faced turn. Ferrari in the sand, red flag
and suspended tests.
Exited in track to the 16,35 in point, after 20 second ones the iridato
MotoGP was already firm. To the guide of a F2004 with depotenziato V10
motor, It is worth hardly had been exceeded from Rubens Barrichello with the
Honda. Then the testacoda, to curve 10 of the Spanish tracing, third towards
right. Red it is not successful to maintain the control of its F2004 and has
gone in testacoda. Re-entered to the box with a shuttle of the scuderia, the
pesarese is remained to along speaking with the technicians and the
mechanics in order to explain in the details the happened one.
In order nearly all the day Red it had only made the bobbin between its
camper and the box. In attended that the rain, protagonist of the day on the
circuit of Valencia, let go the taken one and it allowed it to turn. While
in track they had accumulated km the cars and the pilots of the present
teams to the test. Michael Schumacher with the new Ferrari 248 F1,
naturally. And then the pilots of McLaren, Toyota, Williams, BMW-Sauber and
Red Toro.
Fastest of the session it has been Rubens Barrichello with the Honda. The
Brazilian (1' 19"359) has preceded the companion Anthony Davidson (1'
19"996). Well the Ferrari di Michael Schumacher. The German, that it is come
down in track is with the new 248 F1, is with the modified F2004, has
carried out in all 87 turns, the best one of which has been in 1' 20"358.
Some problem, instead, for the McLaren: Raikkonen has obtained the fourth
time (1' 21"194) but it has been able to only carry out 24 turns why its
single-seater has been stopped.
The other McLaren di Gary Paffet has carried out 42 turns, obtaining the
seventh time. On the bathed track of Valencia 77 turns are come down also
the two Williams di Mark Webber (, fifth time) and Nico Rosberg (75 turns,
eighth time), and the Red Bull di Christian Klien (42 turns, sixth time).
From tomorrow it will be present, with Alonso and Fisichella, also the
Renault, introduced officially today to Montecarlo.


Bummers

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Feb 1, 2006, 4:54:02 PM2/1/06
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Try this:
http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Rossi-spins-out-on-opening-lap-~cid~6~id~124761.htm

>
> Anyone got a better translator than google? Here is what theirs spit out
> from that link
>
>

But later news:
http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Rossi-matches-F1-regulars-~cid~6~id~124803.htm


Rossi matches F1 regulars!

MotoGP World Champion Valentino Rossi put his opening day Valencia
embarrassment well and truly behind him with a solid second day for
Ferrari - during which he set the 9th best lap time out of the 15
drivers present!

The test marks Rossi's fourth outing in a Ferrari Formula One car, but
is his first 'real' test - with other teams and drivers on track at the
same time - after previous private test sessions held at Fiorano and
Mugello.

However, Rossi was left red faced on Tuesday when his rain delayed
Valencia debut, on wet weather tyres and in front of most of the F1
paddock, ended within half a lap after the Italian superstar spun and
stalled his F2004.

But it was arguably the regular F1 drivers who were left red faced on
Wednesday when the #46 set a best lap time of 1min 12.851secs from 53
laps - placing the seven times motorcycling world champion just
1.622secs from fastest man, and reigning F1 world champion, Fernando
Alonso of Renault.

Among those that the Camel Yamaha rider was ahead of today were multiple
GP winner David Coulthard of Red Bull Racing, WilliamsF1 driver Mark
Webber, McLaren test driver Gary Paffett and Toyota race driver Jarno
Trulli.

However, although it is tempting to make direct comparisons between
Rossi and the F1 regulars present - including seven times world champion
Michael Schumacher, who was just over a second quicker than Vale - it is
worth remembering that Rossi was driving a Ferrari F2004 M, rather than
the 2006 spec Ferrari 248, muddying the waters slightly.

The most important - but by no means only - difference between the two
machines is the engine: The 248 used by Schumacher (and most other F1
cars at Valencia) is powered by an 'unlimited' 2.4-litre V8 engine, as
required by the 2006 regulations.

However, a rule designed to help teams unable to acquire a new V8 means
that 3.0-litre V10 engines can still be raced in 2006, providing their
power is limited to a level comparable to the V8 - and it was this type
of 'limited' V10 engine (rather than an unlimited pre-2006 spec V10)
which ANSA reports Rossi's car as having.

If that is the case - and providing Ferrari have accurately limited the
engine - then Rossi has done a very impressive job today (despite a late
spin) and will no doubt be seeking to improve even further tomorrow -
when 2006 Ferrari race driver Felipe Massa will join Schumacher and
Rossi in action for the Italian team.

The Wednesday Valencia F1 test times can be seen below:


Leading times (1 February) - Valencia:

1. Fernando Alonso Renault-Renault 1m 11.229s 47 laps M *
2. Jenson Button Honda-Honda 1m 11.332s 86 laps M *
3. Michael Schumacher Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 11.814s 71 laps B *
4. Juan Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1m 11.978s 68 laps M *
5. Rubens Barrichello Honda-Honda 1m 12.063s 115 laps M *
6. Heikki Kovalainen Renault-Renault 1m 12.122s 32 laps M *
7. Jacques Villeneuve BMW-Sauber 1m 12.622s 75 laps M *
8. Ricardo Zonta Toyota-Toyota 1m 12.668s 78 laps B *
9. Valentino Rossi Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 12.851s 53 laps B
10. David Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari 1m 12.891s 36 laps M *
11. Alex Wurz Williams-Cosworth 1m 12.925s 82 laps B
12. Gary Paffett McLaren-Mercedes 1m 12.937s 115 laps M
13. Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1m 13.050s 68 laps B *
14. Jarno Trulli Toyota-Toyota 1m 13.075s 108 laps B *
15. Robert Kubica BMW-Sauber 1m 13.353s 69 laps M

[M denotes Michelin tyres / B denotes Bridgestone tyres / * denotes 2006
car.]

Track conditions: In the morning wet, later sunny and dry.

Howard Kveck

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Feb 1, 2006, 11:35:26 PM2/1/06
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In article <43e12dfb$1...@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
Bummers <bum...@NOSPAMinternode.on.net> wrote:

> Rossi matches F1 regulars!
>
> MotoGP World Champion Valentino Rossi put his opening day Valencia
> embarrassment well and truly behind him with a solid second day for
> Ferrari - during which he set the 9th best lap time out of the 15
> drivers present!

I wonder what Michelin thinks about the fact that Rossi is driving a car on
Bridgestones.

His times are pretty impressive.

--
tanx,
Howard

The poodle bites, the poodle chews it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Carl Sundquist

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Feb 2, 2006, 1:41:28 PM2/2/06
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
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> In article <43e12dfb$1...@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
> Bummers <bum...@NOSPAMinternode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> Rossi matches F1 regulars!
>>
>> MotoGP World Champion Valentino Rossi put his opening day Valencia
>> embarrassment well and truly behind him with a solid second day for
>> Ferrari - during which he set the 9th best lap time out of the 15
>> drivers present!
>
> I wonder what Michelin thinks about the fact that Rossi is driving a car
> on
> Bridgestones.
>
> His times are pretty impressive.
>

Michelin is supposedly leaving F1 after this year.


Howard Kveck

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Feb 3, 2006, 12:14:17 AM2/3/06
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In article <TnsEf.17104$Dh.3431@dukeread04>, "Carl Sundquist" <car...@cox.net>
wrote:

> "Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:YOURhoward-6667E...@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > I wonder what Michelin thinks about the fact that Rossi is driving a car

> > on
> > Bridgestones.
> >
> > His times are pretty impressive.
> >
>
> Michelin is supposedly leaving F1 after this year.

I was thinking of it in terms of him being one of the main guys for Michelin
still this year. I can't recall it happening differently: tire manufacturers
don't like to see their people (riders/drivers) on someone else's tires at all,
even if it's going to a class where they don't have a tire to use. Maybe it's
different if you go from one type of vehicle to another.

Carl Sundquist

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Feb 3, 2006, 1:17:07 AM2/3/06
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
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> In article <TnsEf.17104$Dh.3431@dukeread04>, "Carl Sundquist"
> <car...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
>> news:YOURhoward-6667E...@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>
>> > I wonder what Michelin thinks about the fact that Rossi is driving a
>> > car
>> > on
>> > Bridgestones.
>> >
>> > His times are pretty impressive.
>> >
>>
>> Michelin is supposedly leaving F1 after this year.
>
> I was thinking of it in terms of him being one of the main guys for
> Michelin
> still this year. I can't recall it happening differently: tire
> manufacturers
> don't like to see their people (riders/drivers) on someone else's tires at
> all,
> even if it's going to a class where they don't have a tire to use. Maybe
> it's
> different if you go from one type of vehicle to another.
>

I wonder what kind of tires he was using when he tried rally a couple of
seasons ago.


pablo

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Feb 3, 2006, 1:39:20 AM2/3/06
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"Carl Sundquist" <car...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> I wonder what kind of tires he was using when he tried rally a couple of
> seasons ago.

Tried is an understatement, he actually did very impressively well recently.
Then again, how hard is it to drive a car fast? Even if I knew I would not
overly care. 4 wheels are bo-oring. I'll never follow Formula One, I'd
rather watch kids race slotcars...

...pablo


Carl Sundquist

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Feb 3, 2006, 7:21:20 AM2/3/06
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"pablo" <pab...@simplyhombreDOT.net> wrote in message
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Tried, as in he did not stick with it.


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