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Matt

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Jan 31, 2002, 7:11:18 PM1/31/02
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Has anyone tried a regena brand chain? If so how did it hold up? I was
planning on going with sidewinder but between what I've read here and on
another message board I'm thinking of going with some other brand such as
sunstar and regena, etc..

Thanks!

Matt

Rex McKinney

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Jan 31, 2002, 7:57:40 PM1/31/02
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"Matt" <mwpublic_r...@telocity.com> wrote in message
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I have run 2 Regina brand o-ring chains and think they are the best I have
found!!

Rex McKinney
02 Yz250


JOKERKX250

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Jan 31, 2002, 11:05:00 PM1/31/02
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> I have run 2 Regina brand o-ring chains and think they are the best I have
>found!!
>
> Rex McKinney
> 02 Yz250


I concurr...and 2nd that!!...lol...I like the Gold series....has been great
for me.

JOKER....(Steve)
'98KX250 (with Talon Hubs!! )
'00KX80 (Junior's Latest Greatest!!)
'88KX250 (still napping in the basement..)
'88KX60 (napping in the basement)
'80Italjet50 ('lil Deano's future ride!!)
"Lets Rock!"

jeff dunham

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Feb 1, 2002, 6:48:35 AM2/1/02
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I think Sidewinder's are overpriced. I think I remember that the
sidewinder chain is a regina and also that their sprockets are not as
strong as they used to be in the past. I would go with a steel rear
sprocket if you want the whole setup to last - along with an RK or
Regina chain. The regina's are used (and loved) by enduro and off-road
riders.

For steel sprockets I have used sprocket specialists with good luck
(ordering through chapparal cycle). For aluminum alloy I like renthal
but sunstar is good as well. I have also used PBI sprockets (local here
in oregon with good luck).

On honda's I always use the factory oem countersprockets - they fit
better and don't wear the mainshaft (which I toasted one time running a
sunstar c/s on my xr250r).

jeff
'01 gasgas ec300
'95 honda xr300r
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www.smackovermotorsports.com => The GasGas Parts Warehouse

Rowdy

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Feb 1, 2002, 8:34:25 AM2/1/02
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Matt wrote:
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> Has anyone tried a regena brand chain?

Yes.

> If so how did it hold up?

No. Plain and simply: they are crap.


1) One Regina O-Ring chain snapped at 11 PM right after the end of a
free way tunnel. Silently dropped to the ground.

2) Another Regina O-Ring snapped, again right in the middle. The pin broke!
The now free end (side plates) did reach behind the stock WR-F front
sprocket chain guard and managed to chip a small hole into the casing
of the clutch actuator lever *@!§%
(a top class aluminum welder managed to close that hole w/out
me having to splitt cases and tear it all down)

3) Buddy Nobs had a Regina O-ring chain rip right at the beginning
of a trail trip during our vacation in Italy.

No more Regina chains for me, ever.
Should any new bike come stock with a Regina chain, i'll replace it the next day.

I don't mind the extra price, i only run RK or DID on my bikes.
For three years now, w/out worries.


HTH
Rowdy

Pete P.

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Feb 1, 2002, 9:06:23 AM2/1/02
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I know people who swear by them, but I have had 2 fail on me. One was at
the bottom of a steep hill in the woods with no way out. That chain was
brand new. I now only use DID or RK.

And yes, it was the chain, not the master link, that failed both times.
These were Regina Gold Extra's.

Pete P.

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Volker Bartheld

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Feb 1, 2002, 9:39:26 AM2/1/02
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Hi!

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:11:18 -0500, mwpublic_r...@telocity.com
(Matt) wrote :

I prefer DID O-Ring chains over Regina Gold. The clip and its pins seem
to fit better. The regina-clips seems a bit "loose". The chain also
didn't last as long as my DID. No failures though.


Cheers,
Volker

EMARPLE

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Feb 1, 2002, 10:02:14 AM2/1/02
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>Hi!
>
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:11:18 -0500, mwpublic_r...@telocity.com
>(Matt) wrote :
>>Has anyone tried a regena brand chain? If so how did it hold up? I was
>>planning on going with sidewinder but between what I've read here and on
>>another message board I'm thinking of going with some other brand such as
>>sunstar and regena, etc..

I saw that you had several replys from folks who like the Regina chain and I
can only tell you what I have seen and that is that the Regina is prone to
breaking..even on relatively new chains. You can splice it back and it'll just
break somewhere else. I use DID or Tsubaki chains only. If my bonus check from
work coincides with my chain wearing out I go with the DID x-ring, otherwise I
use the Tsubaki Omega-S o-ring chain.

Everett
'00 CR 250 (Tree Finder...the next generation)
'74 BMW R90/6...(gentleman's express)
'75 Kawasaki 400 S3 two-stroke triple

Jeff Deeney

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Feb 1, 2002, 10:07:24 AM2/1/02
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Rowdy (peter....@gmx.net) wrote:

: > If so how did it hold up?

: No. Plain and simply: they are crap.

I know someone who's buddy nearly got stranded in 5MOH because his
Regina chain kept breaking. On close inspection, it was filled with
cracks.

Perhaps these are isolated incidents and the result of a manufacturing
glitch that has since been corrected.

I will run DID or Tsubaki. My current Tsubaki chain is holding up
extremely well.

-Jeffrey Deeney- DoD#0498 NCTR UTMA BRC COHVCO AMA
'99 ATK 260LQ-Stink Wheels '94 XR650L-DreamSickle
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.

Pete P.

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Feb 1, 2002, 12:44:25 PM2/1/02
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Not isolated incident. Same thing happened to me twice. No more Regina for
me.

Pete P.

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Rowdy

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Feb 1, 2002, 1:06:14 PM2/1/02
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"Pete P." wrote:
<snip REgina chain failing

> And yes, it was the chain, not the master link, that failed both times.

That exactly is the scary part!

If i make an error assembling the master link, okay, then i deserve the misery.
But those bastards were breaking someplace else, where i can't mess up anything!

Rowdy

Rex McKinney

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Feb 1, 2002, 1:16:20 PM2/1/02
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Wow I was gonna go get a new Regina this week, I was one that had some
good luck with them, but you guys got me thinking now.

Rex McKinney
02 Yz250

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Tim Harrell

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Feb 1, 2002, 3:49:15 PM2/1/02
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Rex McKinney wrote:
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> Wow I was gonna go get a new Regina this week, I was one that had some
> good luck with them, but you guys got me thinking now.
>
> Rex McKinney
> 02 Yz250
>
I hear you, Rex. It sounds like you either get a good one, or a bad one.
The OEM Regina chain that came on my KTM was great, wore extremely well,
never any problems at all. It's first replacement never broke, but wore
quite a bit faster; found a wheel alignment problem during it's
replacement (my screw up on a prior reassembly). Went through a couple
of other RK chains, then got a deal on a Regina again. That's what's on
the bike now, and it's wearing pretty well too. I think I will go look
very carefully at the side plates for cracks, though.
In spite of my own good results with them, I'd have to think long and
hard about another one in light of the info shared on this thread.

Tim H.
Haven't broken a chain in over 20 years, don't want to start again now.

Matt

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Feb 1, 2002, 6:22:12 PM2/1/02
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I've now heard 2 extremes on Regina chains. I wonder if they offer
multiple "models", really good ones and an econo line. Did you guys who
had the problems get their best chains? I've tried DID in the past and
they didn't last well for me, but I didn't break one either. I'm still
stuck between decisions..heh..

Thanks!


In article <3C5AFF4B.8E7768EE@work>, Tim Harrell <"don't e-mail me"@work>
says...

Matt

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Feb 1, 2002, 6:23:33 PM2/1/02
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You just answered my question. I was wondering if it was only an econo
model that may be breaking, but it sounds like you broke one of their
good models..hmmm... guess I need to choose a new brand. Thanks for the
info!

In article <3C5AD916...@gmx.net>, peter....@gmx.net says...

Rowdy

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Feb 4, 2002, 6:19:08 AM2/4/02
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Matt wrote:
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> I've now heard 2 extremes on Regina chains. I wonder if they offer
> multiple "models", really good ones and an econo line. Did you guys
> who had the problems get their best chains?

Rather irrelevant.
As seen from http://www.regina.it/oldregin/table/oring.htm ALL their
520-type o-ring chains are using the same 5.31 mm strong pin.

Frankly, i don't believe that they were actually producing identically
sized pins of different alloy strength, w/out making any noise about these
"stronger pins of the BlaBla520midnight-special" on their website, etc.

And the pins is what did break on my Regina and on Buddy Nobs'

Furthermore, i've never heard of a link plate - outer or inner one - break
out of thin air, in any chain failure i happened to hear the details of.

(except for people who goof up installation of the clip type master link
that good, that the clip jumps off, its neighboring link plate follows
the clip and the now single remaining link plate of the other side
understandably fails. I was talking only about correctly installed,
not worn down master links and o-ring chains. In these cases always
the pins were to blame)


Rowdy

Pete P.

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Feb 4, 2002, 6:53:14 AM2/4/02
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Both mine had link plate failures. One inner, one outer.

Pete P.

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Rowdy

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Feb 4, 2002, 8:46:56 AM2/4/02
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"Pete P." wrote:
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> Both mine had link plate failures. One inner, one outer.

Aha! Found any cracks on other plates of these failing chains?

So let's see, that leaves us with:

..but Regina makes really durable rollers,
they outlast both the pins and the link plates!


Rowdy

P.S: i've seen all kinds of drive train abuse, including an XT500
whose chain would slip occasionally over the teeth less rear sprocket,
as well as a chain where the rollers developed +1 mm slack and started
to break leaving the thin pin housings exposed and of course i
personally enjoyed the cracking sound of a coutner shaft sprocket
getting rid of the last few remaining teeth it had left (buddy tried
to save on race prep expenses, first and last try)

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