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sportflyer

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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Has any one tried using automobile electric low pressure fuel pumps instead
of the hand siphon type pump that is commonly used.

Jim McIntyre

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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In article <39d4...@news.tce.com>,

I'd be concerned about this being a possible source of combustion....

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Dr1Driver

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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>Has any one tried using automobile electric low pressure fuel pumps

Yes, and they work well. However most can't be reversed. A deciding factor
is the cost. You can find thrm used at auto salvage yards for around $5-$10.
Hobby Lobby also carries two electric pumps for gas, both around $35-$40.
Dr.1 Driver
"There's a Hun in the sun!"

Dr1Driver

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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>I'd be concerned about this being a possible source of combustion...

Jim.....DUH. :) It's an automotive pump and sealed for gas use. There's one
on your car. I've used an electric pump from Hobby Lobby for 3 years and nary
a problem. The battery is a gel cell and sealed in a plastic case. The switch
is an "enviromental" switch, also sealed.

Todd Nicholson

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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You can order a Kavan pump from www.hobbypeople.com They work great for
gas, cost about $20.00 and are actually the window washer pump used in
BMW's.

Todd


"biggy" <big...@dds.nl> wrote in message news:39D51918...@dds.nl...
> go and look at the car scrap yard for a VOLVO scrap car ...
> under the hood of the older types yah find a german VDO windo whiper pump
> its the BEST pump arround .... clean it up and use it in your startbox ...
> it works well with gas en methanol fuels .
> i use them for years and cost me only a six pack of beers for the owner of
the
> yard ...
>
> in the hoby shops it sells for a lot of $$ so a scrap yard hunt saves yah
a lot
> .
>
> greetzz
>
> Biggy
> ( from europe )


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> sportflyer wrote:
>
> > Has any one tried using automobile electric low pressure fuel pumps

biggy

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Sep 29, 2000, 6:35:04 PM9/29/00
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aerogra...@my-deja.com

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Sep 29, 2000, 10:04:03 PM9/29/00
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Actually, the fuel which is immersed in the gas tank is not sealed, but
rather completely open armature, brushes and all. The fact that it is
completely immersed, is the reason there can be no sparks. Its the
fumes of gasoline which is dangerous and not in its liquid state.

Roger
http://www.aerografixs.com

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Fred McClellan

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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"Jim McIntyre" <jimmc...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8r2lie$7nj$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <39d4...@news.tce.com>,

> "sportflyer" <le...@tce.com> wrote:
> > Has any one tried using automobile electric low pressure fuel pumps
> instead
> > of the hand siphon type pump that is commonly used.
>
> I'd be concerned about this being a possible source of combustion....

Jim -

Most if not all current fuel injection-based auto engines use two
electric pumps, one low pressure pump mounted inside the fuel
tank, and a high (relatively speaking) pressure pump mounted
somewhere between the tank and the engine. Both pumps
have a higher delivery volume than the engine can possibly
use, and the excess fuel is recirculated back to the tank. The
excess fuel also serves to cool the injectors (electric solenoid
valves, essentially).

Another class of pump is available from auto parts houses, and
it is the sort that is intended to replace the mechanical engine-
driven pumps. It is an in-line pump, and runs on 12vdc.

About twenty bucks US.

Perfectly safe.

The only problem is the output pressure of these pumps can reach
as much as 10 PSIG, about ten times what your model fuel system
can tolerate. If you add a fuel pressure regulator to the pump's
output, you can dial that pressure down as needed. No worry
about a high-pressure stream of gasoline being squirted about
the pits, should a disconnect occur while fueling.

Use 'em all the time. No worries.

Cheers,
Fred McClellan

biggy

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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hi todd .. BUYING .. bleww dirty word .. that i hate .... free is the magic word
or almost for free indeed BMW has a nice pomp also ... and comes easy here at a
car junk yard ... . ok every crazy guy over here drives a BMW here ....
its like a pick up truck in the USA ...over here you dont see many of them.

but $ 20 for a pump ??? NO WAY !!! there are plenty for free on a car scrap
yard . .

greetzz

biggy
the netherlands

Todd Nicholson wrote:

> You can order a Kavan pump from www.hobbypeople.com They work great for
> gas, cost about $20.00 and are actually the window washer pump used in
> BMW's.
>
> Todd
>
> "biggy" <big...@dds.nl> wrote in message news:39D51918...@dds.nl...

Jim McIntyre

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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In article <8r3hmg$vgk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

aerogra...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Actually, the fuel which is immersed in the gas tank is not sealed,
but
> rather completely open armature, brushes and all. The fact that it is
> completely immersed, is the reason there can be no sparks. Its the
> fumes of gasoline which is dangerous and not in its liquid state.

And, you don't generally get gas on your hands and the grass under your
feet while operating your car....

No thanks, I'll stick to my six-shooter....

Jim McIntyre

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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I understand all that but, I still maintain the applications are
radically different. Can't remember the last time I got gas on my hands
while operating a vehicle......

As I said in my other reply, I'll stick to my spark free six-shooter,
thanks....

Cliff Griffin

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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A buddy uses the Kavan with good luck. I was planning to get one, but
ended up deciding on a Hobby Shack rotary hand pump instead. It's much
lighter--I just clip it to the jug handle--and I don't have to charge
it. Also, it's about the same speed. I'm thinking of replacing my
electric glow fuel pump with one too so I can get rid of my flight box
all together.
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