Caliber for feral hogs
Dov Benyamin
Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
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"Dov Benyamin" <dov_be...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ol Shy & Bashful
If its up close and personal, the 12ga with either 00 Buck or slugs
should do the job. However, be sure you pattern it with either load as
they often shoot WAY off what you expect. As for pistols, the 1911 is
fine, at least it is for me. If the caliber starts with a 4 it should
be fine. (as long as you do your part right!!) Happy hunting and Happy
New Year
Ol Shy & Bashful
Dov Benyamin wrote:
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mike....@adelphia.net
should be in good shape with anything you have, other than perhaps the
.223. Happy Hunting.
Dov Benyamin wrote:
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Anonomus
a little light. I would even consider the .45.
Rocky
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Thomas Reynolds
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
The 12 gauge with slugs is a safe bet. (Just read a guy near Atlanta this
week shot one weighing 1200 pounds. :-)
Long Ranger
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
The .243 is suitable if you go up around 100 grains and use a quality
bullet. I think there are some "Trophy Bonded Bear Claw" rounds loaded
commercially for the .243. I'd check on those. The .357 would work too, if
you went with some nice hard-cast bullets in the 160-180 grain range. Most
hogs aren't that hard to kill, but I shot one once that stopped a .264 mag
round before it could enter the rib cage. That was a Hornady soft point of
some sort, and I don't use those any more. If you know you'll be in thick
close cover, it is hard to beat the energy delivered by a 12 gauge slug, but
I would take the .243 over that any day if things got much beyond 75 yards.
William
Dov Benyamin wrote:
# I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
Your .243 will do just fine. I have gone hog hunting in texas, I
usually use a .270, but a well placed shot with a .243 will take them
down. Much is said about the toughness of hogs. Many ranches and
hunters in Texas recommend a head shot rather than a more traditional
shot llow and behind the the shoulder. They also recommend carrying a
hand gun, because sometimes they will attack, and any of the calibers
you mention will do just fine. Follow the following link, and then
read the section on rifle calibers:
http://www.texasboars.com/hunting/huntingtips.html
Hope that helps,
Bill
Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
The size of the feral hogs can vary in different parts of the country.
Where are you located?
Your 12ga with rifled slugs should be enough for just about any
situation.
John Cowart
R.M.R.
Super Blackhawk 10 1/2" in .44 Mag in a Uncle Mikes shoulder rig,
Haven't met a hog it couldn't stop. Now I do know of folks down around
S.Florida that hunt hog with .22lr but that's just a little to ballsy
for me. I didn't run dogs and didn't mind getting close and personal in
the thickets after a big boar tusker, something I couldn't do with a
long gun but I wanted to hold the winning hand I'm confident with when
push comes to shove and that old .44 never let me down but we sure had
some close call adventures. One thing I can say is regardless what
caliber of choice you use shot placement is paramount. It's not a
joyful occasion to track a wounded and very pissed off intelligent
500lb+ elusive hog through places only a tank can go. The hunter can
become the hunted...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem
para bellum) U.S.A.
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#
# "Dov Benyamin" <dov_be...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
# news:enpcnd$r7j$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# # Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# # The
# # long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# # have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# #
# # Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# The 12 gauge with slugs is a safe bet. (Just read a guy near Atlanta this
# week shot one weighing 1200 pounds. :-)
#
1200 pounds! Man that was one heavy slug! ;-)
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Harry Butt
# I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
IMHO, the real answer depends on where you will be hunting. Here in
California, I typically use my Tikka Lite in .308 for hunting on public
lands, and a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 for private lands or dense brush. I
usually hunt w/ a buddy, and we switch off between the .308 and the .45-70.
At longer distances the lever gun acts as spotter/backup protection.
Personally, I don't care much for 12 Ga. for hogs: not enough accuracy, too
much meat damage, limited accuracy and requirement to be too close for the
kind of hunting I do and the places I hunt. I would use your .243 w/ a good
(bright) low-power scope, assuming that you are a fairly good shooter.
Do make sure that you carry a sidearm for backup, especially in close
quarters/brushy country. My personal preference is for a SW Mountain Gun,
.44 Mag loaded with .44 Special +P. But your .357 and/or .45 will work just
fine, again assuming that you are in practice.
HB
MadD...@yahoo.com
Dov Benyamin wrote:
# I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
#
I'd weigh in with the 12Ga. and carry the 45 in case you get 'treed`.
Hogs can get agressive and you want a positive stopper.
MadDog
duty-honor-country
Dov Benyamin wrote:
# I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
I'd use the 12 gauge with rifled slugs, or the 357 with max
velocity/heaviest bullet loadings.
forget the 223, 9mm, and 40- I have a relative who tried to kill a
stray pit bull dog with a 9mm and had to shoot it about 10 times. Even
the 45 is a little light on velocity and penetration.
The 243 would get the job done, but load it up with the heaviest
bullets you can. It's certainly not the optimum cartridge for the job,
though.
If you wanted to buy or borrow a gun, get a 308 or 30-06 with 180 grain
bullets. DEAD MEAT.
Dov Benyamin
news:enru8u$6dh$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu:
# # The 12 gauge with slugs is a safe bet. (Just read a guy near
# Atlanta this # week shot one weighing 1200 pounds. :-)
# #
#
# 1200 pounds! Man that was one heavy slug! ;-)
You'd have to have a hell of a truck just to carry the box of shells!
Plink
<dov_be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
#Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
#long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
#have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
#Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
Hogs, even for their large size, are quite easy to kill. Any the guns
you mention should do a fine job of it if you do your part. I've
killed a great many of them here in Texas with handguns from 9mm and
up. The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
Mike
"We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART!"
AOL - "You've got training wheels on your internet"
Jim Richardson
Plink <mikek...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Dov Benyamin
#<dov_be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# #I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# #Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
# #long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# #have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# #
# #Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# Hogs, even for their large size, are quite easy to kill. Any the guns
# you mention should do a fine job of it if you do your part. I've
# killed a great many of them here in Texas with handguns from 9mm and
# up. The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
# to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
#
There's a *world* of difference between Javelina and Russian boar.
450lb+ of black boar is not something I'd care to rely on 9x19 for. OK
for a side shot, not enough penetration for a frontal, the chest pad is
way too thick for 9x19 to be reliable there.
--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
I have an understanding with my local police--I have them outgunned, but
they have me outnumbered.
Tom in Macon
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# Plink <mikek...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# # On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Dov Benyamin
# #<dov_be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
# #
# # #I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# The
# # #long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I
# also
# # #have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# # #
# # #Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# #
# # Hogs, even for their large size, are quite easy to kill. Any the guns
# # killed a great many of them here in Texas with handguns from 9mm and
# # up. The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
# # to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
# #
#
# There's a *world* of difference between Javelina and Russian boar.
# for a side shot, not enough penetration for a frontal, the chest pad is
# way too thick for 9x19 to be reliable there.
#
#
My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering with one shot to the
brain with a .22 rifle.
Thomas Reynolds
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# "Jim Richardson" <war...@eskimo.com> wrote in message
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# # On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:59:31 +0000 (UTC),
# # Plink <mikek...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# # # On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Dov Benyamin# # # #I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# # # #Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long
# guns.
# # The
# # # #long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I
# # also
# # # #have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# # # #
# # # #Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# # #
# # # Hogs, even for their large size, are quite easy to kill. Any the guns
# # # you mention should do a fine job of it if you do your part. I've
# # # killed a great many of them here in Texas with handguns from 9mm and
# # # up. The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
# # # to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
# # #
# #
# # There's a *world* of difference between Javelina and Russian boar.
# # for a side shot, not enough penetration for a frontal, the chest pad is
# # way too thick for 9x19 to be reliable there.
# #
# #
# My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering with one shot to the
Was the hog chasing and trying to kill him when he did that?
Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley
# My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering with one shot to the
... while they were standing around in a pen, relatively motionless,
and your Dad could afford to wait for a good shot at a good angle, and
even rest the gun on a fence post for maximum accuracy if needed. Not
at all the same thing as hunting feral hogs.
John Cowart
nord...@yahoo.com
# Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns. The
# long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
#
# Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
Are you hunting with dogs? Then the 12 bore (if it has rifle sights),
the 357 (I'd use 180s), or 45 (nothing less than a 230) will do, if you
can keep your wits about you and make your hits. If you're shooting
over a feeder then either rifle will suffice, if you can place your
headshots. If it's spot and stalk, in open terrain, for a pig you'll
want to eat, the 243 loaded with a Nosler Partition is about as good an
arrangement as you own. If you're chasing the biggest bragging rights
wild pig you can find across, through, and under mixed terrain then
maybe you ought to borrow something a little stouter. Better yet, you
could fill the gap in your gunrack with a nice 270, 7mm08, 308, or
30'06...
R.M.R.
duty-honor-country wrote:snip#forget the 223, 9mm, and 40- I have a
relative who tried to kill a
stray pit bull dog with a 9mm and had to shoot it about 10 times.
~~~~~
Geez, 10 times? Why do I get the feeling there may of been a reasonable
amount of human error involved like maybe shot placement or possibly a
good amount of misses during the hose down or maybe a story that got
stretched just a tad before it reached you.I guess anything is possible
if it's the pit from hell however several years ago according to
witnesses a local leo here knocked the legs out from under a pretty
beefy red nose that wondered into a playground occupied by kids with a
single round of 9mm, his second shot was to reinforce the first and
neutralized the situation.His backup at the ready with a 870 never got
a shot off.Believe it or not the owner actually filed a law suit
against the city after getting a citation in violation of the leash
law,he lost...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem
para bellum) U.S.A.
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R.M.R.
Tom in Macon wrote:#My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering
with one shot to the brain with a .22 rifle.
~~~~~
Yes it is possible and I know of people that have done the same during
hunts with dogs.The dogs hold onto the hog and the shooter places a
.22lr bullet square into his brain pot at almost point blank range. In
a butchering situation minus the dogs the situation is also controlled
and most of those hogs are domesticated and can probably be dropped
with a ball bat.
Take away the controls and you have a completely different challenge
when hunting big tuskers in a one on one situation.Only a crazy man or
one destine to survive would try to kill a feral boar with only a .22lr
especially when on his stomping grounds.Taking into consideration the
overlooked intelligences of the species I for one see no way to even
get close enough on a still or stalk hunt for a .22lr to be affective
and if one did drop out of a tree he's going to get the worse end of
the deal for his trouble if he's hunting anything of mass and may just
live a few hours to tell about it.
When I was a kid I would work during the summer on a dairy up-state new
york.The owner also had a piggery.During butchering one massive sow
decided to make a break for it and one guy foolishly tried to block
it's 300lb exit.If you ever seen a pigs teeth you'll notice they grow
every other way and a bite is very nasty.It laid into his leg,carried
him some twenty feet,dropped him and ran clean over him so it's not an
animal to take lightly and even a domesticated hog will revert back to
its natural wild ways (even in appearance) in only a few weeks if let
loose...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem
para bellum) U.S.A.
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Jim Richardson
Tom in Macon <TomM...@member.org> wrote:
#
# "Jim Richardson" <war...@eskimo.com> wrote in message
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# # On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:59:31 +0000 (UTC),
# # Plink <mikek...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# # # On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:52:13 +0000 (UTC), Dov Benyamin# # # #I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# # # #Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# # The
# # # #long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I
# # also
# # # #have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# # # #
# # # #Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# # #
# # # Hogs, even for their large size, are quite easy to kill. Any the guns
# # # you mention should do a fine job of it if you do your part. I've
# # # killed a great many of them here in Texas with handguns from 9mm and
# # # up. The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
# # # to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
# # #
# #
# # There's a *world* of difference between Javelina and Russian boar.
# # for a side shot, not enough penetration for a frontal, the chest pad is
# # way too thick for 9x19 to be reliable there.
# #
# #
# My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering with one shot to the
And tell me, was your dad standing two feet in front of said pig, with
said pig looking up wondering if your dad was going to feed him again?
killing a tetherd meat animal, and hunting, are not really activities
that compare well. I generally popped rabbits in the back of the head
with a ball-peen hammer when I was culling them from the hutches, I
didn't do much hunting of their wild cousins with the ball-peen hammer
though.
--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program"
-- Larry Niven
Thomas Reynolds
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## I've been invited to go boar hunting with a friend at his hunt club.
# # Unfortunately, my collection is a little light on heavy duty long guns.
# The
# # long guns I have that might be suitable are .223, .243, or 12 ga. I also
# # have a .357 revolver and 1911s in 9mm, .40 and .45.
# #
# # Is any of thios suitable, or do I need to borrow something heavier?
# Are you hunting with dogs? Then the 12 bore (if it has rifle sights),
# the 357 (I'd use 180s), or 45 (nothing less than a 230) will do, if you
# can keep your wits about you and make your hits. If you're shooting
# over a feeder then either rifle will suffice, if you can place your
# headshots. If it's spot and stalk, in open terrain, for a pig you'll
# want to eat, the 243 loaded with a Nosler Partition is about as good an
# arrangement as you own. If you're chasing the biggest bragging rights
# wild pig you can find across, through, and under mixed terrain then
# maybe you ought to borrow something a little stouter. Better yet, you
# could fill the gap in your gunrack with a nice 270, 7mm08, 308, or
# 30'06...
Couldn't sleep last night and wound up watching a wildlife show on PPS
around 2 AM...Marty somebody. Anyway, it showed a man with a pack of about
a dozen dogs hunting feral hogs (up to 125 pounds it is a feral pig, over
125 a hog (who knew?). Anyway, the dogs are getting tossed all over the
place (hounds of some sort), until the guy sneaks up and grabs the back legs
and lifts them off the ground and the dogs all grab the front end and the
guy ties it up like a calf at a rodeo without firing a shot. It did not look
staged at all but the real deal. Very impressive! Next video shot is of
one of the dogs bleeding out and dying, also not staged. This is not a sport
for guys without dogs using a .22. (While the guy did not use a gun, he
had a large frame revolver in a shoulder holster showing enough wear to
indicate it had seen a lot of carry. It could have been a .44 mag based on
the frame size...not sure.)
R.M.R.
Tom in Macon wrote:#My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering
with one shot to the
brain with a .22 rifle.
~~~~~
Now that I think of it maybe Tom's point was simply a porker can be
killed by a .22lr, period...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem
para bellum) U.S.A.
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# Tom in Macon wrote:#My Dad used to take out 200 lb hogs for butchering
# with one shot to the
# brain with a .22 rifle.
#
# ~~~~~
# Now that I think of it maybe Tom's point was simply a porker can be
# killed by a .22lr, period...
#
# Ray,
#
What the heck does someone who belongs to the species at the top of the food
chain need with a gun to hunt a "pig" for Pete's sake? A long time ago I
read about a man named Sasha Siemel. He used to go hunting with a spear.
Guess what his game was? Give up? He hunted jaguar in Central and South
America. Hunting a pig with a spear really sounds like fun. Too bad I'm too
old and half crippled up or I'd give that a try myself. I read several of
his books back when I was a teenager in the fifties.
dstaples
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# "R.M.R." <para.n...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# What the heck does someone who belongs to the species at the top of the
food
# chain need with a gun to hunt a "pig" for Pete's sake? A long time ago I
# read about a man named Sasha Siemel. He used to go hunting with a spear.
# Guess what his game was? Give up? He hunted jaguar in Central and South
# America. Hunting a pig with a spear really sounds like fun. Too bad I'm
too
# old and half crippled up or I'd give that a try myself. I read several of
# his books back when I was a teenager in the fifties.
#
What a wimp, we got a few guys here in my part of the world that hunt
javelins with bowie knives.
gyrene
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# ## # news:eobcge$pal$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
#
# # What the heck does someone who belongs to the species at the top of the
# food
# # chain need with a gun to hunt a "pig" for Pete's sake? A long time ago I
# # read about a man named Sasha Siemel. He used to go hunting with a spear.
# # Guess what his game was? Give up? He hunted jaguar in Central and South
# # America. Hunting a pig with a spear really sounds like fun. Too bad I'm
# too
# # old and half crippled up or I'd give that a try myself. I read several
of
# # his books back when I was a teenager in the fifties.
# #
# What a wimp, we got a few guys here in my part of the world that hunt
#
When I got out of the Marines the only knife I had was my TL-29 (military
folding electricians knife used by combat engineers) so that's what I used.
Boy was I happy when I finally got a Bowie for backup. ;-)
Nick Hull
Plink <mikek...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# The .223 might be a little light, even though the military seems
# to think it's plenty of gun for "the most dangerous animal".
Free men own guns - www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/
"the most dangerous animal" is the one with a bodyguard ;)
.
duty-honor-country
R.M.R. wrote:
# duty-honor-country wrote:snip#forget the 223, 9mm, and 40- I have a
# relative who tried to kill a
# stray pit bull dog with a 9mm and had to shoot it about 10 times.
#
# ~~~~~
# Geez, 10 times? Why do I get the feeling there may of been a reasonable
# amount of human error involved like maybe shot placement or possibly a
# good amount of misses during the hose down or maybe a story that got
# stretched just a tad before it reached you.I guess anything is possible
# if it's the pit from hell however several years ago according to
# witnesses a local leo here knocked the legs out from under a pretty
# beefy red nose that wondered into a playground occupied by kids with a
# single round of 9mm, his second shot was to reinforce the first and
# neutralized the situation.His backup at the ready with a 870 never got
# a shot off.Believe it or not the owner actually filed a law suit
# against the city after getting a citation in violation of the leash
# law,he lost...
#
# Ray,
#
# (Si vis pacem
# para bellum) U.S.A.
not the first time a 9mm let someone down- the dog was under their
crawl space in their house, and he could not get a good shot at it-
he'd shoot it in the hind quarters, it would turn around and try to bit
him
the local township police officer also got an eye opener with a 9mm- he
was called to a deer hit scene, the deer was still alive- he shot the
deer a few times at point blank range in the vitals, head, etc.- he had
a hard time killing it- after that incident, he switched back to his
357 !
a 9 mm is a popgun- just take the cartridge and compare it to the 45
acp, 40 sw, or 38/357- there's no comparison
chang
# not the first time a 9mm let someone down- the dog was under their
# crawl space in their house, and he could not get a good shot at it-
# he'd shoot it in the hind quarters, it would turn around and try to bit
# him
#
# the local township police officer also got an eye opener with a 9mm- he
# was called to a deer hit scene, the deer was still alive- he shot the
# deer a few times at point blank range in the vitals, head, etc.- he had
# a hard time killing it- after that incident, he switched back to his
# 357 !
#
# a 9 mm is a popgun- just take the cartridge and compare it to the 45
# acp, 40 sw, or 38/357- there's no comparison
Well, my 38spl rounds are a lot longer than my 9mm rounds, but my 9mm
124g bullets come out of the barrel moving a lot faster than the 125g
.38spl rounds. Tells me that using case size alone to determine energy
is silly.
Phil
Nick Hull
"duty-honor-country" <dutyhono...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# the local township police officer also got an eye opener with a 9mm- he
# was called to a deer hit scene, the deer was still alive- he shot the
# deer a few times at point blank range in the vitals, head, etc.- he had
# a hard time killing it- after that incident, he switched back to his
# 357 !
Free men own guns - www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/
Even a .22 will kill a deer if you cross the eyes and ears ;)
.
delc...@mail.ab.edu
gyrene wrote:
#
#
# What the heck does someone who belongs to the species at the top of the food
# read about a man named Sasha Siemel. He used to go hunting with a spear.
# Guess what his game was? Give up? He hunted jaguar in Central and South
# America. Hunting a pig with a spear really sounds like fun....
Oh?
Ever read the Odyssey?
When Odysseus returns to Ithaca disguised as a beggar, his old
nursemaid recognizes him by the prominent scar on his thigh, a souvenir
of a youthful boar hunt with spears.
J. Del Col
greers
On Jan 13, 2:38 pm, "Thomas Reynolds" <tom.reynol...@verizon.net>
wrote:
# <nordrs...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:eoai9o$cj2$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
#> Couldn't sleep last night and wound up watching a wildlife show on PPS
# around 2 AM...Marty somebody. Anyway, it showed a man with a pack of about
# a dozen dogs hunting feral hogs (up to 125 pounds it is a feral pig, over
# 125 a hog (who knew?). Anyway, the dogs are getting tossed all over the
# place (hounds of some sort), until the guy sneaks up and grabs the back legs
# and lifts them off the ground and the dogs all grab the front end and the
# guy ties it up like a calf at a rodeo without firing a shot. It did not look
# staged at all but the real deal. Very impressive! Next video shot is of
# one of the dogs bleeding out and dying, also not staged. This is not a sport
# for guys without dogs using a .22. (While the guy did not use a gun, he
# had a large frame revolver in a shoulder holster showing enough wear to
# indicate it had seen a lot of carry. It could have been a .44 mag based on
# the frame size...not sure.)
#
That's true. It's one of the traditional way's of hog hunting here in
the Southeast. There's a couple dogs trained to find, chase and corner
him, then other dogs (commonly pit bulls) are released that fight and
hold him by the head and ears. The hunter ties his legs up while he's
occupied (hopefully). He's transported to a pen to feed on corn for a
few months to supposedly remove some of the wild taste or to use for
dog training. This is a group activity, not attempted without backups
nearby.
gyrene
<delc...@mail.ab.edu> wrote in message
news:eorqp4$nap$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
#
# gyrene wrote:
# #
# # What the heck does someone who belongs to the species at the top of the
food
# # read about a man named Sasha Siemel. He used to go hunting with a spear.
# # Guess what his game was? Give up? He hunted jaguar in Central and South
# # America. Hunting a pig with a spear really sounds like fun....
#
# Oh?
#
# Ever read the Odyssey?
In the original Greek, of course.
#
# When Odysseus returns to Ithaca disguised as a beggar, his old
# nursemaid recognizes him by the prominent scar on his thigh, a souvenir
# of a youthful boar hunt with spears.
I tried telling my wife I was going to be tied up for 20 years but she
wouldn't buy it. Wonder how Odysseus sold his wife on it?
#