New videogame console to hit the market in 2003!
Sprite Scaler
I dunno whether I should say 'April fucking fools assholes!'
or
Indrema2: Destination Failure
or
Nuon, transform!, Indrema, transform! now, merge into... Phantom!
but here goes: Infinium Labs announces The Phantom
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=1&nid=20-46.db
http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
looks fake to me, but who knows.
Interesting that its supposedly powered by a Pentium 4 and an ATI
Radeon 9700
(go ATI! hahaha)
Smells all too much like the Linux powered Indrema with NV20/GeForce3
to me. but on the Gaming-Age board, it was real enough to warrent a
sticky-topic :)
won't be long before this thing ends up in the same pile of forgotten
vaperware that Indrema and VMLabs Project X/ Noun occupy.
joe
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I'm a Fish
actor Billy Dee Williams!
I'm A Fish
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woodywoodpecker
comming out. next year they said, that was last year it was supposed to come
out, spring of 2002 i think. The Screensavers had the CEO or whoever of the
console on the show and they showed off the console kinda. no games, but
tlaked about it etc. i dunno if this is it tho.
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RugflappeR
age...
the picture of billy-dee is nothing new.....
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Nightowl
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available?!
I'm A Fish
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Nick Zitzmann
sprite...@directvinternet.com (Sprite Scaler) wrote:
> Nuon, transform!, Indrema, transform! now, merge into... Phantom!
>
> but here goes: Infinium Labs announces The Phantom
Sounds like a hoax along the lines of that "Holomaxx" hoax console a few
years ago...
Nick Zitzmann
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Go there to send me E-Mail!
Warning! Anything you say will be misinterpreted and quoted
against you ten years from now.
I'm a Fish
"Tim Lewinson" who wrote about the alleged new console in the link provided
by the original poster.
I'm A Fish
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I'm a Fish
I'm A Fish
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Rob
>
> What easier way to spread the joke around?!
They made the official site (http://www.infiniumlabs.com/)
pretty impressive if it's just a joke.
Basically the machine is made to play games via broadband
download, giving developers with existing games a new way
to distribute their products.
They say they'll be at the Game Developer's Conference in
San Jose on March 4, and E3 in May. We'll see.
Rob
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> and the site itself, infiniumlabs.com, is registered to an individual, not a
> company. He sure went to a lot of trouble to make this hoax though...
That's not a giveaway sign, as I've worked with startups
who registered their domain names in the name of one of
their founders.
It could very well be a joke, But then again, they have a
toll-free number where they can be reached (and it actually
works). If it's a joke, it's an expensive one.
Here's their contact info:
--------------------------
Infinium Labs Corporation
5380 Gulf of Mexico Drive
Longboat Key, Florida 34228
Phone and Fax: (877) 482-9585
zack_b...@email.com
is a dead giveaway, like someone else suggested.
the other dead giveaway is that they say the company was created
in October of 2002, yet they plan to unveil their new Phantom Console
in March of 2003...
Pretty amazing that they were able to raise capital, lure investors,
hire developers, artists, technicians, admins, and executive's, design
and test a new hardware and electrical unit, and finally convince an
entire market to develop new games for it all within five months...
FIVE MONTHS??
It's pretty goddamned funny to think about, but seriously, you gotta ask
yourself why anybody would waste so much fucking energy on that page?
I never cease in being amazed by the moronics of human beings.
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also (on occasion) post to several related newsgroups if I think
they're relevant to the topic.
...and don't even try to tell me he is spamming. All were gaming
groups, all were relevant groups....doesn't qualify as spam in my
book.
Greg
Guess Who
person who wrote the article looks exactly like a 70's photo of Billy Dee
Williams!
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Aaron J. Bossig
develop and market a new >game console that will outperform the XBOX, Sony
Playstation 2, and GameCube.
>The company plans to market a high performance gaming console and delivery
system to provide >consumers with options and capabilities that are not
available in today’s marketplace.
Yeah, good luck with that.
>The >console will appeal to the hard-core gamer and the high end consumer
electronic purchaser.
Unlike the current three, which appeal to sheep herders and meat cutters.
>This >next generation game console provides a robust, fault tolerant
delivery system that supports >games on demand,
Oh, good. I've been looking for a device that lets me download games. Oh,
wait...
>game rentals,
Oh, good, I can't rent games for my GameCube.
>game demos,
A good idea. I hope Sony doesn't catch on.
> seamless upgrades
More seamless than plugging in an expansion pak?
> and patch management.
The fact that patches are even a concern says something.
>The game >console is an “ALWAYS ON BROADBAND DEVICE.”
Unlike other broadband devices, which dial up?
> It is easy enough for children to use independently
Yeah, kids can't figure out video games these days.
>yet so advanced it exceeds the needs of hard-core gamers.
Hard-core games, of course, being the type of people who will
never want something new and better.
>Key features include:
>- Fastest console on the market
Speed is certainly the deciding factor in market success, right Sony?
>- Broadest selection of preloaded games
Of what?
>- Cross Platform capabilities
Play against PC users... why not just have a PC?
>- State of the art design and architecture
I'm tired of that cardboard box my GameCube is made out of. Thank God
some genius decided to make systems out of chips and plastic.
>- Advanced accessories and wireless capabilities
Crap, next you'll tell me the thing is compatible with common household
electricity. Dare I hope?
>- Seamless upgrades and patch management
Yeah, we heard that part.
>- Game Rentals
Do they *really* think this is something new?
My favorite part is from the website, in which they offer over 50,000 games
for
the system, yet don't mention even one specific title.
Sorry for the long post, I felt silly tonight.--
Aaron J. Bossig
Jordan Lund
It sounds to me like a college Psych project to see how gullible
people are... First the pics are absolutely fake. They are nice
renders by a 1/2 way trained graphic artist, but they are 100%
fabrications.
Second the name "Phantom". Please... It just screams vaporware...
> but here goes: Infinium Labs announces The Phantom
>
> http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=1&nid=20-46.db
> http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
>
> looks fake to me, but who knows.
A couple of key quotes:
"Infinium Labs is the inventor and manufacturer of the first broadband
game console."
Um, no... it's preceeded by every console in the current generation.
The Dreamcast, Gamecube and PS2 all have the ability to use a
broadband connection and the Xbox has it built in.
" Imagine a system that is based on open standards and allows you to
play Phantom console owners and users on other systems such as PC's. "
Um, the only way that would work is if it played PC software...
"* A large number of preloaded games that appeal to a wide variety of
users and to their specific gaming needs
* Online connectivity for multi player gaming
* The ability to play against PC gamers online
* Seamless upgrades and patch management
* A multi tiered subscription service that meets the needs of casual,
moderate and hard-core game players
* The opportunity to demo games before purchasing or subscribing"
So based on this it's a set-top PC that runs pay for play games over a
broadband connection. Gee. Real innovative guys...
"There are currently 32,679 retail game titles available and 418
shareware game titles"
OK, so the machine doesn't come out until December, but there's
already 32,000 titles for it? It runs shareware? What are those PC
games going to look like hooked up to a 320 line TV set?
"The ability of Cross Platform Gaming, that is, Phantom Players versus
PC players."
Are they going to tell these hypothetical "Phantom" players that
they're actually PC players?
All in all, it sounds like a big hoax. I'd blow it off until there's
actual hardware pics.
- Jordan
Scott H
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>
> http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
>
> looks fake to me, but who knows.
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&add
r=5380+Gulf+of+Mexico&csz=Longboat+Key%2C+FL+34228&Country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+
Map
I dunno, it's all a little bit too elaborate to be a hoax. That 32000+
games comment is just marketing hype based on how many games are out there
that "could" be made available should negotiations, hype, marketing, and the
consumer's hideous sony bias, all favor this new system. It's just silly
enough to actually be some poor sucker's attempt at crashing the video game
console party.
The game market has settled into it's brands, and there really isn't
room for new or old in the Industry anymore, sadly. Even if this console
does what it claims perfectly, it'll still fail, and some other company will
dabble in it years from now, put together a pathetic visage of what could
have been, and it'll be praised as amazing and first ever.
Steve Grauman
Aaron J. Bossig >>
The laughs were well worth the length! It's just to bad that nobody new stands
a chance in the market, the war is between MS and Sony now. As much as I like
the GC, it's success is in question, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear
Nintendo announce that they're dropping out of the hardware business all
togethor. Sony and MS just have to much support from the gamers and the
software developers to make a new entry worth thinking about right now.
Especially from a no-name company! Panasonic is one of the biggist electronics
companies in the world, and even they couldn't get a system off the ground
(remember the REAL?)!
Rob
>
> You're certainly correct - it's not definite proof. But how about those
> 32000+ games they insinuate they have?
That is suspect, I'll admit. In another section of the site
though, they drop the 32K "joke" and say that there are
50,000+ games available, with over 5,000 multi-player games:
http://www.infiniumlabs.com/phantom_experience.asp
They seem to insuate that those are games already on the
market for platforms like the PC, and even include Shareware
games in the mix. It *is* a huge number though. If they're
for real, it may be a number they're shooting for eventually,
rather than the number they'll have on day one. Additionally,
the actual press release makes no mention of the number of
games they'll have.
> Gotta be a hoax, so elaborate tho...
The most "elaborate" thing about it is the fact that they
have a toll-free phone number that actually works. They could
run up a huge phone bill if everyone were to call just to see
if they were for real or not.
Miles Bader
> I wouldn't be surprised to hear Nintendo announce that they're
> dropping out of the hardware business all togethor. Sony and MS just
Don't follow the japanese market much, do you?
-Miles
--
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or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over. --Ian Wolff
Rob
>
> I'm now wonder if maybe it's a university project of some kind or a scam,
> instead of just a hoax - since there was so much work involved.
I thought universities only reserved that kind of funding for
their sports departments. But anyway, I guess we'll just have
to wait and see if they show up for one of the many events they
have planned:
Paul Bowlay
news:92dbefbe.03012...@posting.google.com:
> A couple of key quotes:
>
> " Imagine a system that is based on open standards and allows you to
> play Phantom console owners and users on other systems such as PC's. "
>
> Um, the only way that would work is if it played PC software...
Not so... PC players of "Quake 2" can play against Mac/Linux users.
Same concept here -- if it was real (which it isn't, it's a hoax).
Mr. E
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I've read a lot of conflicting opinions here, just thought I'd add my .02
32000+ games and all of them can be played against other pc users? And it
uses a Pentium processor and AMD graphics chip? Sounds to me like it is
entirely feasible; they probably intend to build a low-end pc used solely
for gaming. 32,000 pc titles would then be able to run on the thing, and
broadband coupled with one uniform hardware setup means that they can handle
all the patching and updates necessary to get the titles to run on their
end, thus eliminating the biggest hindrances to pc gaming; hardware cost and
software maintenance.
That is, of course, if this is not a hoax. We'll know come late Feb I
suppose.
Scott H
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>
> > http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=1&nid=20-46.db
> > http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
> I've read a lot of conflicting opinions here, just thought I'd add my .02
>
> 32000+ games and all of them can be played against other pc users? And it
> uses a Pentium processor and AMD graphics chip? Sounds to me like it is
> entirely feasible; they probably intend to build a low-end pc used solely
> for gaming. 32,000 pc titles would then be able to run on the thing, and
> broadband coupled with one uniform hardware setup means that they can
handle
> all the patching and updates necessary to get the titles to run on their
> end, thus eliminating the biggest hindrances to pc gaming; hardware cost
and
> software maintenance.
That is entirely possible to pull off with a good staff of intelligent
networking people and a hand full of software programers. I would think
that if they did it, they'd get muscled right off the market by MS, if not
some other console company. Somebody would find something to sue them for,
and it'd be all over.
> That is, of course, if this is not a hoax. We'll know come late Feb I
> suppose.
I'm not thinking it's a hoax, it sounds an aweful lot like Bleem! to me.
>
Jordan Lund
> you're obviously a young person as the photo of Billy Dee Williams
> is a dead giveaway, like someone else suggested.
I agree that the company and product is most likely a hoax or a
college psych project, but why are people slamming the guy who wrote
the article? It's not unusual for columnists in the gaming press to
use fake photos and caricatures. It's pretty obvious that the Billy
Dee pic is a gag, but it's a gag on the part of the web site, not the
people who "produce" the "Phantom".
- Jordan
OCT
> I dunno whether I should say 'April fucking fools assholes!'
> or
> Indrema2: Destination Failure
> or
> Nuon, transform!, Indrema, transform! now, merge into... Phantom!
>
> but here goes: Infinium Labs announces The Phantom
>
> http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=1&nid=20-46.db
> http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
>
> looks fake to me, but who knows.
>
> Interesting that its supposedly powered by a Pentium 4 and an ATI
> Radeon 9700
> (go ATI! hahaha)
>
> Smells all too much like the Linux powered Indrema with NV20/GeForce3
> sticky-topic :)
>
> vaperware that Indrema and VMLabs Project X/ Noun occupy.
At first you have to laugh when you see the webpage. it stinks of
hoax. But then you read some of the content, and, realising there is
none, you *know* its fake :)
But you look a bit further and consider whats there... there's no
subtle clues to it being fake (like a humerous company address, funny
employment roles and so on) and the claims are a bit too much. It is
in the 32000 games that the whole story is given clarity: this is an
attempt to create a set top PC. nothing more. Fairly naive and over
adventurous, but a genuine project that someone has started.
Sprite Scaler
>
man, posting to multiple groups really seems to bother you. the more
you tell me about it the more im going to want to do it :P
Sprite Scaler
here's another link about this new console from an XBox site:
http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=4022
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> There was announced in 2001 or 2002 that there would be a linux console
> comming out. next year they said, that was last year it was supposed to come
> out, spring of 2002 i think. The Screensavers had the CEO or whoever of the
> console on the show and they showed off the console kinda. no games, but
> tlaked about it etc. i dunno if this is it tho.
>
>
Rob
>
> this is an attempt to create a set top PC. nothing more. Fairly
> naive and over adventurous, but a genuine project that someone has
> started.
I can't wait until it comes out. It will kill every other
console out there! Everything else will suck compared to the
mighty Phantom!
Wow, I'm already turning into a Phantom Phanboy.
Richard Hutnik
Nintendo's clutches :-).
- Richard Hutnik
OCT
Oh dear. you need to chillout, put away the coffe and get some kip...
Steve Grauman
You're right, the XBox is a failing system every else in the world outside the
U.S. Frankly, I like the Gamecube a hell of a lot more than the $200 MS
paperweight, but I'm worried about Nintendo's future here in the states.
Neither the N64 or the Gamecube seemed to get the response that Nintendo was
hoping for.
A Gilles
model, which nobody has pulled off yet... Their maximim installed user base
would be only as many people as have broadband, not to mention the fact that
if they intend on having existing games playable, most of them would require
a significant size download, or a fair amount of porting, which seems to
contradict what they're going after... Imagine having to download the game
and the maps and everything else to play a round of UT2K3-
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A Gilles
us a picture of an actual unit...Somebody's optimistic-
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Aaron J. Bossig
> << Sorry for the long post, I felt silly tonight.--
>
> The laughs were well worth the length!
Thanks.
It's just to bad that nobody new stands
> a chance in the market, the war is between MS and Sony now. As much as I
like
> the GC, it's success is in question, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear
> Nintendo announce that they're dropping out of the hardware business all
> togethor.
I have to say I really disagree with you there. Nintendo might not be where
they'd like to be, but the GBA is still very lucrative, and the GCN is
profitable. Nintendo has a core of loyal customers that they've been
building for over 20 years. Things aren't great, but they're not *that* bad
in the Mushroom Kingdom.
On the other hand, I do think it's possible that MS will throw in the towel
before or during the life of XBox2. The only reason they've gotten as strong
as they have is because MS can afford to fund the product with almost no
consumer revenue, and the "mature" edge which seems to work on people who for
some reason don't like Nintendo or Sony.
>Sony and MS just have to much support from the gamers and the
> software developers to make a new entry worth thinking about right now.
Sony, yes. MS? Meh. They can keep buying new companies, but they still
don't have many desirable exclusive titles. Sony and Nintendo do have games
that people keep coming back for. At some point, MS is going to have to have
games that are more desirable than Vice City and Smash Bros. if they want to
knock either of the two other hardware competitors out.
This is why I'm surprised MS has handled their console venture in this
manner. I think it would have made much more sense for them to buy up the
software firms they wanted, and release some really good games onto GC and
PS2 under the MS label. That way, when they finally launched a console, the
gaming public would associate them with some great games, rather than as a
monopolistic PC software company trying to grab a chunk of something they
don't understand. In addition, they'd have a handful of exclusive franchises
waiting, as well.
Eh well. What happens, happens.
Sean Connery
Sprite Scaler <sprite...@directvinternet.com> wrote:
>won't be long before this thing ends up in the same pile of forgotten
>vaperware that Indrema and VMLabs Project X/ Noun occupy.
Not really.
In the end, multiple Nuon decks were released. I have one. That said.
Project X aka Nuon, was a pretty good idea, that took so long to implement
it was obsolete. If VM Labs has been able to stick to their original
release dates, many more decks would have used their chipset, and perhaps
things would have been a bit different (story of the ages).
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they'd like to be, but the GBA is still very lucrative, and the GCN is
profitable. Nintendo has a core of loyal customers that they've been
building for over 20 years. Things aren't great, but they're not *that* bad
in the Mushroom Kingdom. >>
You're right. I sometimes have brain farts and forget to think about the fact
that there's a world outside of the United States, where the GC is much more
poular. In terms of overall sucess, the GC isn't really doing all that poorly,
it's just not doing as well as I'd like to see it do.
<< On the other hand, I do think it's possible that MS will throw in the towel
before or during the life of XBox2. The only reason they've gotten as strong
as they have is because MS can afford to fund the product with almost no
consumer revenue, >>
I hope you're right. Nothing would please me more than to see MS either drop
out now, or have Sony's next system blow them out of the water. For all the
XBoxs advanced hardware, 98% of it's games are total crap.
<< Sony, yes. MS? Meh. They can keep buying new companies, but they still
don't have many desirable exclusive titles. Sony and Nintendo do have games
that people keep coming back for >>
Exactly. MS just doesn't have the strength in games to keep going to much
longer. By the time the PS1 had been out this long, there was already a huge
library of games I wanted to own. The XBox has 6 games I like right now, with
one more coming, the rest of their stuff is either crap, or also avaliable on
the other 2 systems.
<< I think it would have made much more sense for them to buy up the
software firms they wanted, and release some really good games onto GC and
PS2 under the MS label. >>
I think they could have been much more succesful this way too. Buying out
someone like Namco and publishing their games under an MS label would have
provided far more good stuff from them than what we're getting on the XBox.
Steve Grauman
Are we talking about those Nuon equipped DVD players that could play games? I
know that Phillips had one, and I believe Denon was making one. Then they just
went away...
RugflappeR
thx!
i was getting ready to reply to Nightowl about that... ;)
RugflappeR
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> RugflappeR wasn't talking about the original poster. He was talking about
> "Tim Lewinson" who wrote about the alleged new console in the link
provided
> by the original poster.
>
> I'm A Fish
>
> "Nightowl" <ati...@killspammers.min.midco.net> wrote in message
> news:v2p6red...@corp.supernews.com...
> > If this guy is supposedly a regular contributor, then tell me why is he
> posting to multiple newsgroups.
> >
> > "RugflappeR" <Rugfl...@NOSPAMoco.net> wrote in message
> news:v2p5ads...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > though, this 'guy' has been a regular contributor for 'years(?)' to
> gaming
> > > age...
> > >
> > > the picture of billy-dee is nothing new.....
> > >
> > > "I'm a Fish" <inmoasf...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:UzGdnYef0MK...@comcast.com...
> > > > It's a joke, the picture of " Tim Lewinson" is actually a picture of
> 70s
> > > > actor Billy Dee Williams!
> > > >
> > > > I'm A Fish
> > > >
> > > > "Sprite Scaler" <sprite...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8dca4a2e.03012...@posting.google.com...
> > > > > First off,
> > > > > I dunno whether I should say 'April fucking fools assholes!'
> > > > > or
> > > > > Indrema2: Destination Failure
> > > > > or
> > > > > Nuon, transform!, Indrema, transform! now, merge into... Phantom!
> > > > >
> > > > > but here goes: Infinium Labs announces The Phantom
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2003&m=1&nid=20-46.db
> > > > > http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > looks fake to me, but who knows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting that its supposedly powered by a Pentium 4 and an ATI
> > > > > Radeon 9700
> > > > > (go ATI! hahaha)
> > > > >
> > > > > Smells all too much like the Linux powered Indrema with
> NV20/GeForce3
> > > > > to me. but on the Gaming-Age board, it was real enough to warrent
a
> > > > > sticky-topic :)
> > > > >
Eugene Esterly III
Philips didn't have a NUON DVD player & neither did Denon. NUON is a
chip used in certain DVD players. The only DVD players that contained
the NUON chip were several players from Samsung, 1 from Toshiba & 1
from RCA.
Here are the released DVD players which contain the NUON chip:
USA NUON DVD players:
Samsung Extiva DVD-N2000
Toshiba SD-2300
Samsung DVD-N501
RCA DRC300N
European NUON DVD players:
Samsung DVD-N504
Samsung DVD-N505
Korean NUON DVD player:
Samsung DVD-N591
NUON DVD players which were announced but never came out:
Oritron DVD900
RCA DVD player Model DRC480N (progressive scan NUON Plsyer. Was
announced in July 2002)
About the Phillips thing, I believe that you are referring to the DVD
player that was announced that would be able to play Gamecube games.