Nintendo 32x?
au...@imap1.asu.edu
the Super NES.
Bernard Ho
>From: au...@imap1.asu.edu
>Subject: Nintendo 32x?
>Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:41:24 GMT
>It would be nice if Nintendo came out with a 32 bit add on for
>the Super NES.
That will be a waste of time, how long do you think the 32X of the Genesis
would last, I believe it'll be gone within a year.
Glenn Williams
Anything less that a 64bit system is not a viable product. Patience is a
virtue, and when the Ultra is released it will be worth the wait and have
a future...not like the 32x ... its a dinosaur already!
G. Williams
Arthur Sankey
> In article <3ca4s4$8...@news.asu.edu> au...@imap1.asu.edu writes:
>>From: au...@imap1.asu.edu
>>Subject: Nintendo 32x?
>>Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:41:24 GMT
>
>>the Super NES.
waiting for a 64 bit system. Nintndo's already announdced a the ultra 64
that will be 4 times as powerful as a super nes and twice as powerful a
sega's 32x. The ultra 64 won't be an sdd-on, but it will have games like
killer instinct, crusin' usa and DOOM. But if you really want a wimpy 32
bit system, the vr 32 (virtual reality ) will be comeing out in apriland
will be just as powerful as segas 32x but will be 3-d and in your face. I
guess it would be *nice* if nintendo came out with a 32 bit add-on, but
that would suck. Instead they're going all the way to 64 bit with none of
this add-on crap.
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David Aldridge
>>the Super NES.
>
> would last, I believe it'll be gone within a year.
Fourty games planned to be out by March 95, 100+ titles planned out by the
end of 95, most major third party companies developing 32X games... What's
convinced you that it will be gone within a year? If you mean that you
have no interest in buying it personally, just say so. But I think that
companies like Acclaim and Shiny (among others) are bright enough not to
waste their time or money on a doomed system.
Bernard Ho
>end of 95, most major third party companies developing 32X games... What's
>convinced you that it will be gone within a year? If you mean that you
>have no interest in buying it personally, just say so. But I think that
>companies like Acclaim and Shiny (among others) are bright enough not to
>waste their time or money on a doomed system.
Do you think it's possible for them to release 100+ games by the end of 95!!!
I don't think they even released 100 games in 1994 and you mean they'll
release 100+ games by 95!!! NO WAY!!!
Bernard Ho
David Aldridge
> I don't think they even released 100 games in 1994 and you mean they'll
> release 100+ games by 95!!! NO WAY!!!
Considering that programming for 32X games started in June '94, and the
number of third party companies who are working on games, I'd say it's
possible. This is to be the work of dozens of companies, over 19 months.
And I'm sure that between Acclaim, Capcom, Konami, Sunsoft, Shiny and
others, there should be a few good titles out for it.
I'm not saying that anything sucks in comparison to the 32X. I'm just
going against some of the unfounded comments like "stopgap system",
"shortterm money maker" and "will be unsupported and dropped". I have yet
to hear a good reason or solid fact to back these DOA flames, especially
since it has more support than the VR32 (which also may or may not make
it), which has met with far less skepticism.
Mike MacPhail
I agree the 32x is waste. It will be fogoten when the new systems are
released.
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Mike MacPhail
> It would be nice if Nintendo came out with a 32 bit add on for
> the Super NES.
No it wouldn't! What are you saying. I don't wanna buy something that is just
supposed to hold me over until the new systems start rooling in. I think that
the 32x may sell quite well but mostly to the people that aren't interested in
the new system or don't even know about them. If you ask me it is a ripoff. I
know that Nintendo won't do this.
Marty Chinn
: Fourty games planned to be out by March 95, 100+ titles planned out by the
: end of 95, most major third party companies developing 32X games... What's
And how many were stated by Christmas for the Sega CD when it was
introduced? How many actually came out? How many 32X games were planned
to be at release, how many were released? I think those questions right
there will show you that just because they say 40 games by march of 95
and a 100 by christmas of 95, it doesn't mean it will pull through. In
theory it is possible but hey, look at what Sega has done before? I doubt
they will come close. Maybe half of that.
: convinced you that it will be gone within a year? If you mean that you
: have no interest in buying it personally, just say so. But I think that
: companies like Acclaim and Shiny (among others) are bright enough not to
: waste their time or money on a doomed system.
Acclaim and Shiny are in the business to make money. 32X has a decent
user base at the moment. That doesn't mean it will last. Do you think
Hudson is a stupid company? They developed for the Turbo Grafx 16 which
died off. There is no sure thing in this business. The 32X isn't a
guarenteed sucess. It could just bite the big one next year. Its all
speculation and making money. Shiny and Acclaim can make one or two games
for the system, walk away with a profit from those games even if the
system dies. To say its not going to die because why would a company be
stupid and waste their time developing for it is stupid. Do you think
Electronic Arts is stupid? Do you think Virgin is stupid? EA is
developing for 3DO and Virgin is developing for Jaguar. Both of those
systems have a chance of making it or breaking it. Its all a risk thing,
not something that is guarenteed for the developer.
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>David Aldridge (as...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>: Fourty games planned to be out by March 95, 100+ titles planned out by the
>: end of 95, most major third party companies developing 32X games... What's
>And how many were stated by Christmas for the Sega CD when it was
>introduced? How many actually came out? How many 32X games were planned
>to be at release, how many were released? I think those questions right
>there will show you that just because they say 40 games by march of 95
>and a 100 by christmas of 95, it doesn't mean it will pull through. In
>theory it is possible but hey, look at what Sega has done before? I doubt
>they will come close. Maybe half of that.
True enough, the numbers that any company gives regarding what it *HOPES*
are generally on the high side. Although, if the 32X can get 5-7 games out
per month like it did in its first month, there would be 60-84 titles by next
Christmas, roughly. That is not bad at all, and considering that 32X title
production should increase and not the other way around, it looks pretty good.
Also, there has already been a distinct difference between the Sega-CD and the
32X releases. 5 quality games out in its first month for the 32X vs. 0 (that
I can remember) for the first *FEW* months of the Sega-CD.
>: convinced you that it will be gone within a year? If you mean that you
>: have no interest in buying it personally, just say so. But I think that
>: companies like Acclaim and Shiny (among others) are bright enough not to
>: waste their time or money on a doomed system.
>Acclaim and Shiny are in the business to make money. 32X has a decent
>user base at the moment. That doesn't mean it will last. Do you think
>Hudson is a stupid company? They developed for the Turbo Grafx 16 which
>died off. There is no sure thing in this business. The 32X isn't a
>guarenteed sucess. It could just bite the big one next year. Its all
>speculation and making money. Shiny and Acclaim can make one or two games
>for the system, walk away with a profit from those games even if the
>system dies. To say its not going to die because why would a company be
>stupid and waste their time developing for it is stupid. Do you think
>Electronic Arts is stupid? Do you think Virgin is stupid? EA is
>developing for 3DO and Virgin is developing for Jaguar. Both of those
>systems have a chance of making it or breaking it. Its all a risk thing,
>not something that is guarenteed for the developer.
>--
Once again Marty, your logic is sound, I agree with you, but it is also one-
sided. By all rights the exact opposite could happen and it could take off
just as easily as it could fail, the reason being that the market is in one
of its "transition" periods and it is not certain yet what the consumer wants,
likes, or has as an option in the future. The 32X is not a guaranteed failure,
just like you said it is not a guaranteed success. The points about EA are
not really that strong because EA has a vested interest in the 3DO due to its
relationship to the 3DO company. Virgin has made one(?) game for the Jag, and
I would say the Jag has a much more tenuous chance at surviving then the 3DO
does. You said it yourself, the 32X has gotten a decent user-base in a month,
I think that it should be interesting to see what this machine can do once its
potential is tapped. Just like the SNES can do things I never thought it could,
it seems only fair that the 32X be given the same chance.
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> ch...@caelab1.cae.wisc.edu (Bernard Ho) writes:
>
>> In article <3ca4s4$8...@news.asu.edu> au...@imap1.asu.edu writes:
>> >From: au...@imap1.asu.edu
>> >Subject: Nintendo 32x?
>> >Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:41:24 GMT
>>
>> >It would be nice if Nintendo came out with a 32 bit add on for
>> >the Super NES.
>>
>> That will be a waste of time, how long do you think the 32X of the Genesis
>> would last, I believe it'll be gone within a year.
>>
>>
>
> I agree the 32x is waste. It will be fogoten when the new systems are
> released.
>
becuase SuperNES players have to admit that they are sick of waiting around for
the Ultra 64 while Sega players are already playing 32-bit CD-Rom games. The
32x is going places. Just wait until Mortal Kombat 2 comes out for it next
month. Then you will change your tune. With over 100 games in development and a
very possible upward compatibiltiy with the Saturn, the 32x is guaranteed a
long life. So all of you who slam the 32x can just bite me. If you have
anything to say do it here!!
The Sega God,
Bryan O'Neill
Patrick Deupree
: I've got a better Idea. stop waiting for a 32 bit system and start
: waiting for a 64 bit system. Nintndo's already announdced a the ultra 64
: that will be 4 times as powerful as a super nes and twice as powerful a
: sega's 32x. The ultra 64 won't be an sdd-on, but it will have games like
: killer instinct, crusin' usa and DOOM.
Hmm, have they actually got DOOM? If they did get it, they had to kiss some
SERIOUS butt to do so after Id's opinion of them. Somehow I don't think
that getting Doom would be a good idea. By the time the Ultra 64 is out
Quake will be released and Doom will be old hat.
--
A wise man once said that the only road to true enlightenment was through
failure.
Patrick Deupree
Iseult Technology
pdeu...@netcom.com
Tigrus700
Deupree) writes:
>Hmm, have they actually got DOOM? If they did get it, they had to kiss
some
>SERIOUS butt to do so after Id's opinion of them. Somehow I don't think
>that getting Doom would be a good idea. By the time the Ultra 64 is out
>Quake will be released and Doom will be old hat.
Yes, Id's DOOM is coming out for the Ultra. It's being developed by
Williams, with Id Soft being the brains. It's supposed to have a totally
new storyline and everything. That should keep it interesting. The game's
also supposed to have "SGI-specific" animation, so that will hopefully
catch a few eyes.
Wayne J. Trone
absorb the idea of themselves being wrong. To those who are all seeing like
us though... the world is a very cool place to be right now.
Immortal High Priest of Sega.
Wayne Trone
wjt...@mtu.edu
: > --
Wayne J. Trone
Eventually the non-believers will have to be taught a lesson... but Arthur..
do you really know what you are talking about? A 64 bit machine isn't all
that much incredibly superior to a comparibly backed up 32 bit. It is all
in the rest of the package. It is true that the 32X isn't going to be on par
with the next generation of video games... but it isn't supposed to be. We
who direct sega into doing what we want- wanted a machine that will provide
shit loads better games than those that are currently being produced. All
to give a happy medium for those who won't want to own the future system of
all time...Saturn. All in the name of the Sega God... and his high priests.
Walk in the light my sons...
First High Priest of the Sega God.
Wayne Trone
wjt...@mtu.edu
B
the non-believers will have to be taught a lesson... but for
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True, I want to ask you to give the 32x a chance. It's usefullness
hasn't even reached a so called peak. Wait until February 1st. At that time
we'll talk again as more and more info comes out for it. So take heart kid, the
battle is far from over, the war....continues. I'm basically calling for a
ceace fire of slander for all 32x bashers. I mean please Mario, If you want to
gripe about how inferior the 32x is, direct your comments to me and we will
talk. Give it a chance, all with come together soon.
The Sega God,
Bryan O'Neill
Felarca Mario M
>In article <3cl4ne$9...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, mfel...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Felarca Mario M) writes:
>> vids...@netcom.com (Marty Chinn) writes:
>>
>>>David Aldridge (as...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>
[snippage of me SUPPORTING the 32X]
>
>>
>> Once again Marty, your logic is sound, I agree with you, but it is also one-
>> sided. By all rights the exact opposite could happen and it could take off
>> just as easily as it could fail, the reason being that the market is in one
>> of its "transition" periods and it is not certain yet what the consumer wants
>> likes, or has as an option in the future. The 32X is not a guaranteed failure
>> just like you said it is not a guaranteed success. The points about EA are
>> not really that strong because EA has a vested interest in the 3DO due to its
>> relationship to the 3DO company. Virgin has made one(?) game for the Jag, and
>> I would say the Jag has a much more tenuous chance at surviving then the 3DO
>> does. You said it yourself,the 32X has gotten a decent user-base in a month,
>> I think that it should be interesting to see what this machine can do once its
>> potential is tapped. Just like the SNES can do things I never thought it could,
>> it seems only fair that the 32X be given the same chance.
>>
>>
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>>>Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Neo Geo, Jaguar, 3DO, Game Boy, and Game Gear.
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>> Mario Felarca
>> mfel...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
>> Senior Sales-SETC #943
>>
>Mario,
> True, I want to ask you to give the 32x a chance. It's usefullness
>hasn't even reached a so called peak. Wait until February 1st. At that time
>we'll talk again as more and more info comes out for it. So take heart kid, the
>battle is far from over, the war....continues. I'm basically calling for a
>ceace fire of slander for all 32x bashers. I mean please Mario, If you want to
>gripe about how inferior the 32x is, direct your comments to me and we will
>talk. Give it a chance, all with come together soon.
Umm...I dunno how much of a God you are, considering that if you read properly
you would have seen that I was SUPPORTING the 32X. True, I did agree with
Marty on his points, but that was because they are legitimate, they are also
one sided, so I used them to make the point you see in my quoted paragraph
above.
I am glad that people have eased up on the 32X, finally realizing that it is
selling well and has good potential, but people can still voice their
opinion. If it is rational and logical, I look forward to reading it and
possibly debating it. If it is simple flame bait, I ignore it.
The same holds true for any of the systems I have, and I HAVE a SNES, Genny,
Sega-CD, 32X, and access to a 3DO. True I like Sega a *bit* better, but I
don't think any one system deserves "religious" followings.
I do commend you on the information that you sometimes bring to the net Bryan,
in fact I like reading your posts when you aren't blindly promoting or
degrading one system. I do like the way you handled my post to, when you were
thinking that I was ripping on the 32X. Instead of flaming, you talked it
out.
> The Sega God,
> Bryan O'Neill
>
Mario Felarca
mfel...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
Senior Sales-SETC #943
WISDOM CAN'T BE BOUGHT. IT CAN, AT BEST, BE RENTED, UNTIL YOU CAN FIND YOUR OWN
Mario,
Well I'm glad you've finaly came to grips and seen i do posses somekind
of intelligene. In light of your comments I apologize. You and everyone else
should know by now that is whole religious deal is just a joke and a funny
thing I thought I might do to get a little attention when I found this news
group. It worked and all kinds of questions are pouring in daily. Its all in
good clean fun. I mean no harm by it. It's just a title. I thank all
that have emailed me.
I'm a small lad just trying to get by in this crazy world. Everything
we know about the video gaming world will probably be vastly different in two
years so why worry what is better than this or that. It's all a matter of time,
money, and the seriousness of your video gaming. This will truly be my last
message as the computer leaves the room for the Christmas holidays. I'll be
back in January to inform the players of any and all systems, especially SEga
as best I can. Thanks for the comments, it's been fun.
So once again, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and above and beyond
that. Happy Video Gaming to one and all.
The Sega God,
Bryan O'Neill