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John P.

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Feb 1, 2003, 3:23:11 AM2/1/03
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I hate to cover old ground, but There's a dispute over multiple spying missions. A google search
turned up some helpful rulings, but there was some grey areas.

Can I get a Yay or nay on the following:

1. On a single bleed action can a minion play more than one spying mission at superior.
(if Agrapina drops three of them for future bleed bonus of +6 on one action)
Belief: No (action modifier rule)

2. One sucessive bleed actions Agripina can continue to play 1 Spying mission each time, each time all existing spying missions
remain in play, and the new spying mission adds on.
Belief: Yes

3. After accumulating two or more Spying missions, on a successful bleed all spying missions must be burnt at once for a single
large bleed (which cannot be Archoned, deflected, or modified once the spying missions have been burned)
Belief: Yes

Thanks,
-JTP


reyda

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Feb 1, 2003, 7:26:02 AM2/1/03
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John P. wrote:

:: Can I get a Yay or nay on the following:


::
:: 1. On a single bleed action can a minion play more than one spying
:: mission at superior. (if Agrapina drops three of them for future
:: bleed bonus of +6 on one action) Belief: No (action modifier rule)

Absolutely not. Because it is forbidden by the rule to play the same action
modifier twice in a single action ;)


:: 2. One sucessive bleed actions Agripina can continue to play 1


:: Spying mission each time, each time all existing spying missions
:: remain in play, and the new spying mission adds on. Belief: Yes

You are right. The spying missions can stack.


:: 3. After accumulating two or more Spying missions, on a successful


:: bleed all spying missions must be burnt at once for a single large
:: bleed (which cannot be Archoned, deflected, or modified once the
:: spying missions have been burned) Belief: Yes

You are right. The first bleed which is successful compels you to burn the
spying mission(s) you have on the acting minion.

:: Thanks,
:: -JTP

James Coupe

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Feb 1, 2003, 7:23:14 AM2/1/03
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In message <PtL_9.155099$H7.64...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>, John P.

<verg...@hotmail.com> writes:
>1. On a single bleed action can a minion play more than one spying
>mission at superior.
>(if Agrapina drops three of them for future bleed bonus of +6 on one action)
>Belief: No (action modifier rule)

Correct.

>2. One sucessive bleed actions Agripina can continue to play 1 Spying
>mission each time, each time all existing spying missions
>remain in play, and the new spying mission adds on.
>Belief: Yes

Yes.

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DC8132B.F0A21251%40white-wolf.com>
[and the rest of that thread]

Spying Mission stops the bleed being successful, so previous Spying
Missions don't burn at that point.

>3. After accumulating two or more Spying missions, on a successful bleed
>all spying missions must be burnt at once for a single large bleed
>(which cannot be Archoned, deflected, or modified once the spying
>missions have been burned) Belief: Yes

A Reyda post, with an LSJ confirmation:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DC7CAFF.1D9D364C%40white-wolf.com>
>> no, if a vampire plays Spying mission when a bleed is not blocked, he
>> doesn't remove pool, thus cannot increase the bleed. Put the second
>> spying
>> mission on him instead, and the next time he bleeds the same
>> methuselah, the
>> 2 spying mission will trigger for a +4 bleed. (except if he plays a
>> third SM
>> which will stack on the previous ones)
>
>Correct.

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LSJ

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Feb 2, 2003, 1:22:50 PM2/2/03
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James Coupe wrote:
> John P. <verg...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >1. On a single bleed action can a minion play more than one spying
> >mission at superior.
> >(if Agrapina drops three of them for future bleed bonus of +6 on one action)
> >Belief: No (action modifier rule)
>
> Correct.

Correct.

> >2. One sucessive bleed actions Agripina can continue to play 1 Spying
> >mission each time, each time all existing spying missions
> >remain in play, and the new spying mission adds on.
> >Belief: Yes
>
> Yes.
>
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DC8132B.F0A21251%40white-wolf.com>
> [and the rest of that thread]
>
> Spying Mission stops the bleed being successful, so previous Spying
> Missions don't burn at that point.

Correct.



> >3. After accumulating two or more Spying missions, on a successful bleed
> >all spying missions must be burnt at once for a single large bleed
> >(which cannot be Archoned, deflected, or modified once the spying
> >missions have been burned) Belief: Yes
>
> A Reyda post, with an LSJ confirmation:
> <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DC7CAFF.1D9D364C%40white-wolf.com>
> >> no, if a vampire plays Spying mission when a bleed is not blocked, he
> >> doesn't remove pool, thus cannot increase the bleed. Put the second
> >> spying
> >> mission on him instead, and the next time he bleeds the same
> >> methuselah, the
> >> 2 spying mission will trigger for a +4 bleed. (except if he plays a
> >> third SM
> >> which will stack on the previous ones)
> >
> >Correct.

Correct.

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