Deck: Yesterdayatrix
Ashur
Author : Ashur
Description : Abuse of Pocket Out of Time and Goratrix special. Had 2
GWs in 5 games, but tend to generate too much table hate when people
know the trick.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 10 average: 5.83333
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5x Goratrix 10 ANI AUS DOM THA vic !Tremere:2
2x Tupdog 1 POT VIS Gargoyle:3 (could
be tremere weenies)
1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
1x Brooke 3 dom tha !Tremere:2
1x Ember Wright 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
1x Saiz 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
Library [67 cards]
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Master [14]
2x Direct Intervention
4x Infernal Pact
4x Villein
4x Wash (Keep for Pentex!)
Action [17]
1x Clotho's Gift
1x Deep Song
5x Govern the Unaligned
5x Magic of the Smith
2x Nose of the Hound
1x Rutor's Hand
1x Sense Death
1x Taunt the Caged Beast
Equipment [6]
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Helicopter
1x Kevlar Vest
1x Martinelli's Ring
1x Ruins of Ceoris
1x Sire's Index Finger
Action Modifier [13]
5x Mirror Walk
8x Pocket Out of Time
Action Modifier/Reaction [2]
2x Quicksilver Contemplation
Reaction [15]
1x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight
3x Eyes of Argus
1x My Enemy's Enemy
1x Read the Winds
1x Sense the Savage Way
4x Telepathic Misdirection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Apr 24 19:36:34 2010]
wumpus
On Apr 23, 10:45 am, Ashur <ashur.ashur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Deck Name : Yesterdayatrix
> Author : Ashur
> Description : Abuse of Pocket Out of Time and Goratrix special. Had 2
> GWs in 5 games, but tend to generate too much table hate when people
> know the trick.
Because it is eeevil.
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 10 average: 5.83333
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 5x Goratrix 10 ANI AUS DOM THA vic !Tremere:2
> 2x Tupdog 1 POT VIS Gargoyle:3 (could
> be tremere weenies)
> 1x Hannigan 5 AUS THA dom !Tremere:2
> 1x Richard Tauber, Ay 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
> 1x Brooke 3 dom tha !Tremere:2
> 1x Ember Wright 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
> 1x Saiz 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
>
> Library [67 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Master [14]
> 2x Direct Intervention
> 4x Infernal Pact
> 4x Villein
> 4x Wash (Keep for Pentex!)
I'd think you would hit diminishing returns with Villein - swap two
for Vessel? No Fame?
> Action [17]
> 1x Clotho's Gift
> 1x Deep Song
> 5x Govern the Unaligned
> 5x Magic of the Smith
> 2x Nose of the Hound
> 1x Rutor's Hand
> 1x Sense Death
> 1x Taunt the Caged Beast
Only 5 rushes? I like the multiple sources of untap (Clotho's,
Rutor's, Helicopter).
> Equipment [6]
> 1x Bowl of Convergence
> 1x Helicopter
> 1x Kevlar Vest
> 1x Martinelli's Ring
> 1x Ruins of Ceoris
> 1x Sire's Index Finger
Why Martinelli's Ring? I tend to use the Blade of Enoch over the
Sire's Index Finger, especially in a deck like this that may want a
'finishing blow' of more than 1 (which many decks can prevent without
any blood on the vampire).
I'm guessing the plan is to use the first Magic to get the Ruins on
Goratrix?
> Action Modifier [13]
> 5x Mirror Walk
> 8x Pocket Out of Time
No Enkil Cog? Seems like a lot of Mirror Walk - do you really need
that much?
> Action Modifier/Reaction [2]
> 2x Quicksilver Contemplation
Nice.
> Reaction [15]
> 1x Cats' Guidance
> 4x Eagle's Sight
> 3x Eyes of Argus
> 1x My Enemy's Enemy
> 1x Read the Winds
> 1x Sense the Savage Way
> 4x Telepathic Misdirection
Is this enough wake (5/6) and enough intercept? It seems slim, but it
is a slim deck. I'd still be tempted to put in a couple Anima
Gathering for some aus/AUS nerd to use...
Also, no combat cards at all!?! Not even a couple Lapse to really
mess with someone?
If you do sub Tremere weenies for Tupdog, I'd suggest adding
Ponticulus. He's great casual defense.
> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sat Apr 24 19:36:34 2010]
Alex
Obtenebration
did? With only 5 rushes and 5 Governs, I'd just let him do whatever
he wants. His intercept doesn't bother me since he can't POOT in
those combats.
A Flamethrower can also make this deck fun. People stop laughing
after the 3rd minion burns.
Ashur
wrote:
> How did you get Goratrix into combat after people realized what he
> did? With only 5 rushes and 5 Governs, I'd just let him do whatever
> he wants.
Yes, I agree, I should but in some more rushes. But Mr G´s +1 bleed
(potentially 4 w Quicksilver) forces many decks to block.
> His intercept doesn't bother me since he can't POOT in those combats.
Well, Mr G´s special and Ruins/Vest allows him to block most
threatening actions. You don´t have to suck every blocked minion dry.
> A Flamethrower can also make this deck fun. People stop laughing after
> the 3rd minion burns.
True. But mostly overkill, so I didn´t find the room (or pool) for it.
Ashur
>
> I'd think you would hit diminishing returns with Villein - swap two
> for Vessel?
Yes, that is kind of good. But it´s very nice to be able to get 5-6
pool fast 1-2 times in the game.
> No Fame?
I worry about contesting it. But if you put more rushes in the deck,
sure.
> > Action [17]
> > 1x Clotho's Gift
> > 1x Deep Song
> > 5x Govern the Unaligned
> > 5x Magic of the Smith
> > 2x Nose of the Hound
> > 1x Rutor's Hand
> > 1x Sense Death
> > 1x Taunt the Caged Beast
>
> Only 5 rushes?
Yes, it should be more. Maybe 8 or so. It could be nice to be able to
multi-rush when you don´t have POOT.
> I like the multiple sources of untap (Clotho's,
> Rutor's, Helicopter).
Yes, but I probably switch Clotho´s for another rush now.
> > Equipment [6]
> > 1x Bowl of Convergence
> > 1x Helicopter
> > 1x Kevlar Vest
> > 1x Martinelli's Ring
> > 1x Ruins of Ceoris
> > 1x Sire's Index Finger
>
> Why Martinelli's Ring?
Because I don´t like those cards the ring protects against.
> I tend to use the Blade of Enoch over the
> Sire's Index Finger, especially in a deck like this that may want a
> 'finishing blow' of more than 1 (which many decks can prevent without
> any blood on the vampire).
Mmm, yes, the blade is maybe better.
> I'm guessing the plan is to use the first Magic to get the Ruins on
> Goratrix?
Usually, yes.
> > Action Modifier [13]
> > 5x Mirror Walk
> > 8x Pocket Out of Time
>
> No Enkil Cog? Seems like a lot of Mirror Walk - do you really need
> that much?
Nah, Enkil contests around here. You need the mirrors to get through
those extra crital actions.
> > Reaction [15]
> > 1x Cats' Guidance
> > 4x Eagle's Sight
> > 3x Eyes of Argus
> > 1x My Enemy's Enemy
> > 1x Read the Winds
> > 1x Sense the Savage Way
> > 4x Telepathic Misdirection
>
> Is this enough wake (5/6) and enough intercept? It seems slim, but it
> is a slim deck.
People tend to suspect this being a wake-heavy deck, so you can thrive
on them being afraid Mr G is always waking.
> I'd still be tempted to put in a couple Anima
> Gathering for some aus/AUS nerd to use...
Anima Gathering is a real shitcard in my book. Never, ever use it.
> Also, no combat cards at all!?! Not even a couple Lapse to really
> mess with someone?
Nah, I think its overkill. OK, maybe 1 Lapse, for flavour.
> If you do sub Tremere weenies for Tupdog, I'd suggest adding
> Ponticulus. He's great casual defense.
Good idea. Thanks for all advice.
Juggernaut1981
> > Is this enough wake (5/6) and enough intercept? It seems slim, but it
> > is a slim deck.
>
> People tend to suspect this being a wake-heavy deck, so you can thrive
> on them being afraid Mr G is always waking.
Yeah, I love this kind of thing. When I was playing more JOL I had a
bleed deck (Cryptic Treaty Deck) that would use Martin Frankel and
Carna as the Sidekicks to Sundevere. People would see Martin come out
early and instantly they would assume I would have Wad'o'Flick(tm) and
Pile'o'Wake(tm)... When the Cryptic Treaty lands, Martin's job is
actually to reduce every bleed to 0 (Telepathic Counter + Ecstacy) OR
ping people with Cryptic Mission (and maybe Weight the Heart at
"Treaty-Ferior"*...)
*It's a strange bleed deck... pester me here or via my email if you
want to see the decklist.
Robert Scythe
> On 23 Apr, 20:26, wumpus <wump...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > No Fame?
>
> I worry about contesting it. But if you put more rushes in the deck,
> sure.
> > No Enkil Cog?
> Nah, Enkil contests around here.
You need to get over this fear of contesting. You would rather
somebody else use cards that are good for your deck because they might
play them? You do not have to pay the contest if you cannot afford it
or it's not in your best interest to do so at the time. Other times
the contest may be worth it or you may be the one getting good use out
of the contestable card (these ones in question are free to put out,
by the way). You are willing to use a card slot on an arguably corner
case condition (Martinelli's Ring,silver bullet loaded) but not on a
couple of cards that would be useful every game.
> > I'd still be tempted to put in a couple Anima
> > Gathering for some aus/AUS nerd to use...
>
> Anima Gathering is a real shitcard in my book. Never, ever use it.
Maybe you should try. 1-2 pool and an action for permanent +2
intercept. Check out Carver's MPaS for a good combo.
Ashur
> On Apr 24, 1:05 am, Ashur <ashur.ashur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 23 Apr, 20:26, wumpus <wump...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > No Fame?
>
> > I worry about contesting it. But if you put more rushes in the deck,
> > sure.
> > > No Enkil Cog?
> > Nah, Enkil contests around here.
>
> You need to get over this fear of contesting. You would rather
> somebody else use cards that are good for your deck because they might
> play them? You do not have to pay the contest if you cannot afford it
> or it's not in your best interest to do so at the time. Other times
> the contest may be worth it or you may be the one getting good use out
> of the contestable card (these ones in question are free to put out,
> by the way). You are willing to use a card slot on an arguably corner
> case condition (Martinelli's Ring,silver bullet loaded) but not on a
> couple of cards that would be useful every game.
I disagree. I simply think Fame or Cog would contest often, and other
non-unique cards are worth those card slots.
And for Martinelli - there are always loads of Temptation-decks around
here. It´s a metagame thing.
Salem
> I disagree. I simply think Fame or Cog would contest often, and other
> non-unique cards are worth those card slots.
half of fame's goodness comes from it contesting. what if someone's put
it on Goratrix? You'll want to contest it pretty bad then. 1 pool per
turn vs 3+1 pool per turn....IF it's contested. if it's not, it's just
great for you!
--
salem
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cnislev
Vote decks will vote you into the ground.
You seem to be in trouble if you dont draw one of your 4 Infernal
Pact, or if they get washed/sudden'ed.
Only 5 Governs and 2 Quicksilver Contemplation makes you seem a bit
light on the ousting side
And finally, I think Telepathic Tracking achieves a result which isnt
far from Pocket out of Time in effectiveness, but without requiring
the Infernal Pact
Daneel
wrote:
I guess the point is - with Pocket, you need 1 card, and in most cases
you can suck the opposing minion dry (steal 2 blood -> burn 1 blood to
start a new combat -> repeat). You can do this irrespective of the
amount of S:CE in their hands. TT at superior is similar, but the main
difference would be that you need to play one for every "start a new
combat" effect.
--
Regards,
Daneel