2) Ilomba - was hinted at in another thread but if you put Ilomba on
your own minion and then recruit a War Ghoul can you choose to burn
the Ilomba for the War Ghoul and then burn a blood from the Ilomba's
employer instead or would that not satisfy the requirements of the War
Ghoul (cos no minion has actually been burned)?
Also when will the WW site have the card texts available (the reason I
haven't included card text)?
> 2) Ilomba - was hinted at in another thread but if you put Ilomba on
> your own minion and then recruit a War Ghoul can you choose to burn
> the Ilomba for the War Ghoul and then burn a blood from the Ilomba's
> employer instead or would that not satisfy the requirements of the War
> Ghoul (cos no minion has actually been burned)?
>
Sure. War Ghoul isn't "burn a retainer or ally to put this card into
play". It's "when War Ghoul enters play, burn an ally or retainer you
control"... it's not a cost, it's an effect. Therefore, when he
enters play, you choose your Ilomba to burn, and it tries to burn and
instead causes it's controlling vampire to burn a blood. So it's
taken care of. Still corner case... =)
> Also when will the WW site have the card texts available (the reason I
> haven't included card text)?
Hopefully soon... can't wait to be able to enter the new cards into
inventory and also be able to use them on JOL...
Further to this how does the Ilomba deal with excess damage? Is it a
one for one or treated in bulk (I think it's the latter)? So if the
previously mentioned War Ghoul (pfft corner case - I'm building a deck
built on that premise!) enters combat with a minion on whom I've
previously place an Ilomba, plays target retainer to hit the Ilomba
for 4, does the vamp burn four blood or is it seen as burning the
Ilomba so the vamp only takes 1?
> Further to this how does the Ilomba deal with excess damage? Is it a
> one for one or treated in bulk (I think it's the latter)? So if the
> previously mentioned War Ghoul (pfft corner case - I'm building a deck
> built on that premise!) enters combat with a minion on whom I've
> previously place an Ilomba, plays target retainer to hit the Ilomba
> for 4, does the vamp burn four blood or is it seen as burning the
> Ilomba so the vamp only takes 1?
For all intents and purposes, Ilomba treats each single point of
damage as it comes.
So in context of my query yesterday as to who controls Ilomba after it
is in play. If Meth A has Vamp 1, and Meth B has Vamp 2. Vamp 1 places
an Ilomba onto Vamp 2. If Meth A still controls that Ilomba, then if
Vamp 1 recruits a War Ghoul, Meth A may choose to burn the Ilomba on
Vamp 2?
If true, that is very sick, and not cornercase at all.....
Ilomba is a minion card, so it is controlled by the controller of the minion it
is on.
I planned to play lots of 419 and stop my prey getting the edge with
Folderol (or Ignis Fatuus). Crypt doesn't match up that great of
course :-)
Nick
So it would be affected by Can't take it with you? Sweeeeeeeet!
Just like Charnas, yes.
> Sure. War Ghoul isn't "burn a retainer or ally to put this card into
> play". It's "when War Ghoul enters play, burn an ally or retainer you
> control"... it's not a cost, it's an effect. Therefore, when he
> enters play, you choose your Ilomba to burn, and it tries to burn and
> instead causes it's controlling vampire to burn a blood. So it's
> taken care of. Still corner case... =)
Just so I am clear, you can recruit a war ghoul without controlling an
ally or retainer but if you do the war ghoul becomes the ally or
retainer to be burnt?
John P
Winnipeg
Or in other words... Recruiting a War Ghoul when you have no allies or
retainers is just a fancy way of taking an action to burn 4 of your
own pool and put a War Ghoul into your ash heap. If someone can
figure out how to make THAT a winning strategy....
Far from being a "fancy" way of doing that, I think it's the only way
of doing that. If there's another way to take an action to burn 4
pool and put a War Ghoul in your ash heap, I'm sure it's fancier than
that way... =)
I suppose that having a Famed vampire play a Chair of Hades on your
own War Ghoul with Daring the Dawn would be a fancy way to take an
action to burn *3 pool* and put a War Ghoul in your ash heap, but it's
1 pool short of the goal. If there's a Tension in the Ranks in play,
then that would make it cost you 5 pool...
As for ever being useful... well, there are easier ways to lose
yourself pool. And easier ways of getting cards in the ashheap... ;)
When one plays Exile, does it function like Banishment where all the
blood counters and any other junk they possess go with them to the
uncontrolled region, or are all of those items removed? Thanks in
advance.
Exile. Action. 2 blood.
+1 Stealth Action
pre: D: Tap an ally or younger vampire and untap this acting vampire.
PRE: D: Tap X Orun on this vampire to send a vampire or imbued with
capaity or cost 2X or less to his or her owner's uncontrolled region.
Starting new topics are a good choice when you're starting new topics.
> When one plays Exile, does it function like Banishment where all the
> blood counters and any other junk they possess go with them to the
> uncontrolled region,
Yes.