May God...wait a minute...is this some kind of loyalty test?
> On Thursday, February 3rd, Samuel H. Sloan died in his sleep.
> May god take pity on his soul.
No shit? I anxiously await his obituary. I shall read it with great
interest.
David Ames
If this is a joke this is in the worst possible taste.
David, there are no obits for "Sloan" in the New York Times or Newsday
that I could find. I think someone has a sick sense of humor.
Vince Hart
You're right. He hasn't posted (as sl...@ishipress.com) since about
Jan 27, according to Google.
I agree. It's just wrong to get people's hopes up like this.
Tim Hanke
GOOD !
I never cared for the NY shower shit !
"Spam Scone" <Spam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1107569191.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
[SNIP]
A reliable source has told me this is incorrect.
Sincerely,
George John
I'll only believe it when I hear it confirmed by Peter Leko.
-- Hal Terrie
Its probably Peter Leko spreading the rumor.
Old Haasie
He's been dead from the neck up for years...
On 2/4/05 6:25 PM, in article V2WMd.22887$Ck1.1...@news20.bellglobal.com,
Must be some sort of conspiracy.
Vince Hart
> A reliable source has told me this is incorrect.
A totally, usually, often reliable source? Why do they not want their name
associated to their statement?
> Maybe Sam is in Virginia or South Carolina attending to old family legal
> matters.
> Or, maybe Sam's lurking around the West Virginia mountains trying to
> ambush
> the USCF mule train on its way to Crossville.
Maybe he is applying for the job of muleskinner.
> Actually, i think a sam sloan biography would be a fascinating read. A
> lot of it is revolting, but fascinating nonetheless.--Bill Wong
Right up there with Sam's first wife, Norman Whitaker.
More likely the always-polite Mr. John is trying to inform us of
something without becoming involved himself.
As Bruce Draney once asked, hasn't Sam Sloan spent "time" away from
rgcp before?
> More likely the always-polite Mr. John is trying to inform us of
> something without becoming involved himself.
>
> As Bruce Draney once asked, hasn't Sam Sloan spent "time" away from
> rgcp before?
Somehow you're all forgetting that Jihad Sam is an extremely religious man.
He went to the hajj at Mecca this year and is just now returning like all
the other pious Islamists. Many hoped he would be trampled during the
Stoning Satan ritual (do they stone themselves?) but rumor has it he
survived and will soon return to his beloved mosque in Brooklyn--information
about it is here: http://www.nysun.com/article/8445
Old Haasie
>Somehow you're all forgetting that Jihad Sam is an extremely religious man.
>He went to the hajj at Mecca this year and is just now returning like all
>the other pious Islamists. Many hoped he would be trampled during the
>Stoning Satan ritual (do they stone themselves?) but rumor has it he
>survived and will soon return to his beloved mosque in Brooklyn--information
>about it is here: http://www.nysun.com/article/8445
To read further about those fabulous friends of the family Bush: The
Two Faces of Islam : Saudi Fundamentalism and Its Role in Terrorism by
Stephen Schwartz, available at Amazon in paperback.
I expect that Sam Sloan's devoted admirers, Jerzy Ciruk
and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (whose 'moral standards'
seem to approach the depths of their hero's), would
be heartbroken by the news of Sam Sloan's death.
So when might Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
begin to troll Juergen R for making an 'anti-Polish joke'?
--Nick
Yes, Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski have
been extolling the many virtues and (so-called)
'moral standards' of their hero, Sam Sloan.
Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski also have
been emphatically comparing Sam Sloan favourably to
me in every possible way. I doubt that any readers
here apart from Jerzy Ciruk, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski,
Sam Sloan himself, and perhaps a few of the most
idiotic readers and worst trolls here would believe
the kind of rubbish that Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski like to keep writing about me.
So I expect that the countless insults and lies written
by the fanatical 'Sam Sloan admirer trolls' (if I may
say so), Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, to
attack me personally will make themselves look far worse
than they could make me look in the perceptions of
every reader here who has any sense.
--Nick
Notice that 'Ciruk' and 'Holsztynski' are also missing in action.
>
>--Nick
>
Juergen, might your filters be censoring
Jerzy Ciruk and/or Wlodzimierz Holsztynski?
Or perhaps you should read rec.games.chess.misc?
Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski have been
absent so far from this thread, but they are far
from 'missing in action' elsewhere in the chess
newsgroups (RGCP and RGCM).
Both Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski have
recently been very active, in fact, in making more
of their usual extremely abusive and false personal
attacks against me (and they have included my family
members now) and, to a lesser extent in Jerzy Ciruk's
case, against Simon ('chapman billy'), who has been
expressing his support for me. I can refer you to
some of those threads if you are interested.
Juergen, you are in a different position than I am
with regard to Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski.
Both of them greatly admire Sam Sloan and they have
expressed their admiration of him vehemently here.
I suspect that Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
would hate you for having created this thread.
But they would hate you *only* for something that
you have written. Both Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz
Holsztynski have written racial comments about me
or some of my family members. Several other writers
have let me know that they concur with my assessment
of Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski as racists.
I doubt that I could ever change the colour of my skin.
And I would not love someone in my family any more or
less on account of his or her skin colour.
So, Juergen, Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
may hate you for *what you do*; evidently, they hate
me also for *what I am* in their racist perceptions.
arma virumque cano (Virgil)
--Nick
"You can only be destroyed by believing that you
really are what the white world calls a nigger."
--James Baldwin
--Nick
Dear "Nick"
Noone can insult you here because noone here knows your real name :-)
However you do insult real people here with real names e.g. me.
Aas usual my kind regards to the anonymous coward and pathological liar and
insulter "Nick"
Jerzy
Nope, Juergen the "Rat" we are still alive :-)
HOUSE ON THE ROCK CHURCH
8808 ROCKAWAY BEACH BOULEVARD
FAR ROCKAWAY NY 11691
So is Ken Sloan ... hmmm?
:)
"Jürgen R." <jur...@web.de> wrote in message news:42062ba9...@news.individual.de...
> A memorial service will be held tomorrow at 2pm at
>
> HOUSE ON THE ROCK CHURCH
> 8808 ROCKAWAY BEACH BOULEVARD
> FAR ROCKAWAY NY 11691
George was wrong and I need to buy a Mass card.
<If this is a joke this is in the worst possible taste. ..I agree. It's just
wrong to get people's hopes up like this.> -- Tim Hanke
<Could any statement about Sam Sloan be in bad taste?> -- Vince Hart
Could any comment about many of the leaders of the USCF be in bad
taste? I think not. Certainly, no comment about a killer such as Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov would be in bad taste nor about the pro-drug testers on our FIDE
team who are working so very hard to destroy the independence of players.
________________________________________________________________
"FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not be
able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical Commission.
How do you know? Isn't it strange that there's no death notice in
Newsday or the New York Times? No postings from any of the people in
NYC who knew Sam Sloan? Why are so many people quick to believe someone
posting from a German ISP?
To the crowd who seems to think anyone's death is a time for japes, all I
can say is, someday you'll be dead too.
TMB
"sandirhodes" <rhoes...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pJqNd.4445$Ps.2146@okepread06...
How do you know? Isn't it strange that there's no death notice in
Newsday or the New York Times?
Surely you jest. Obituaries cost money. Sam's estate has none.
You fucking greasy little lying weasle: There is no funeral at this church
for anyone today. Christians don't hold funerals on Sunday, which should
have tipped me off. But I called anyway and spoke with the pastor.
Anyone who takes pleasure from any of this has sunk to a level of depravity
which even Sam could not contemplate.
"Jürgen R." <jur...@web.de> wrote in message
news:42062ba9...@news.individual.de...
Pleasure or wishful and hopeful :)
In the context of our society his brand of bullshitting is small potatoes.
When you think of how, for example, the NY Times continues to publish the
ultra-partisan rantings -- lies, really -- of Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd
(not to mention bottle-feeding Jayson Blair), Sam's subject matter seems
trivial. We just went through a political season in which both candidates
lied like Persian rugs about each other's positions and records. Look at how
CBS tried to smear Bush -- a criminal act calculated to bring down a
presidency -- and how the Bushites sought to smear Kerry's war record while
ignoring the obvious fact that he *went* and they (Cheney, GW, Rumsfeld)
didn't.
We're fighting a war in Iraq which is costing us hundreds of billions of
dollars. No doubt Iraqis are better off as a result of it but let's face it,
we went in based on bullshit. Most Americans today believe that Iraq was
responsible for 9/11. Without good old-fashioned bullshit that could never
be.
The world is built on bullshit. The core of this planet is composed of
bullshit. If it weren't for mythology most of us pathetic humans would have
nothing to live for.
So next time Sam posts that Peter Leko has died and gone to hell, or that
some chess politician's hemorrhoids resemble a raw tenderloin, put it into
context.
Angelo DePalma
"Bugsy" <Bu...@none.com> wrote in message
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Sam Sloan is generally known to follow the Muslim faith. Why would
there be a memorial service at a Christian church? Is his Japanese
wife a Christian?
If we could see a published death notice someplace, we would know that
there was a funeral director who paid for the notice.
David Ames
"Angelo DePalma" <adpspamme...@tellurian.net> wrote in message
news:Y86dnfaNqvo...@garden.net...
Cordially and hoping the reports of Sam's death are premature
prevarications,
Tom Klem
"Parrthenon" <parrt...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20050206104033...@mb-m29.news.cs.com...
Good post Angelo <<sheesh>>
Tom Klem
"Angelo DePalma" <adpspamme...@tellurian.net> wrote in message
news:m62dnUKRWM1...@garden.net...
I also checked the 4 NY papers.
The only evidence we have is some weasel posting on the newsgroup. You know,
as a great fan if Ishmael Sloan's, how reliable these posts can be.
adp
"StanB" <stan...@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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<<sheesh>>
Tom Klem
"Angelo DePalma" <adpspamme...@tellurian.net> wrote in message
news:xd6dnSgl3cL...@garden.net...
Angelo DePalma has refuted Juergen R.'s cooments about Sam Sloan.
Shortly before Sam recently stopped posting he asked if anyone knew who
had written a certain complimentary remarks about him. It was in fact
Juergen R.
Apparently there has been a falling out between them at some time.
Apparently they were on good terms at one time.
Now I am beginning to wonder who may have told Sam an untruth
concerning Peter Leko. *I am beginning to wonder.*
David Ames
Juergen, you may have noticed by now that such trolling
already has begun from Jerzy Ciruk, at least.
> Notice that 'Ciruk' and 'Holsztynski' are also missing
> in action.
Juergen, *if* your hypothesis was that 'Ciruk' and
'Holsztynski' were pseudonyms for Sam Sloan, then
I doubt very much that hypothesis could be true.
Jerzy Ciruk has been writing under the name of 'Jerzy'.
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has written as 'Wlod' and
under at least one known pseudonym, 'sennajawa'.
It *is* quite true (though Jerzy Ciruk *now* seems to
like to snip the parts in which I mention that fact)
that Jerzy Ciruk and/or Wlodzimierz Holsztynski have
been lauding the (so-called) 'virtues' and 'moral
standards' of their evident hero, Sam Sloan.
In the RGCM thread, "Sam Sloan's Muse", Jerzy Ciruk
has been refusing to admit, in his exchanges with
Simon ('chapman billy'), that there could be anything
wrong with Jerzy Ciruk's admiration of Sam Sloan or with
Jerzy Ciruk's efforts to support what Sam Sloan does.
I submit that someone's moral character, such as those
of Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, can be
revealed to a significant extent by showing the moral
character of someone, such as Sam Sloan, whom they
admire so much.
--Nick
> the context of our society his brand of bullshitting is small potatoes.
>When you think of how, for example, the NY Times continues to publish the
>ultra-partisan rantings -- lies, really -- of Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd
Were you aware that Dowd won the Pulitzer for abusing the Clinton's during
Monicagate?
While you are at it, find a single misstatement of fact in Bushworld.
Wick Deer
That's another false statement by Jerzy Ciruk.
Mark Houlsby observed long ago that my name is known to some.
Some readers of the chess newsgroups have met me in person.
As 'The Masked Bishop' expressed it here a while ago, there
may be compelling reasons for writers here to use a pseudonym
and thereby reduce the risk that they or their families will
be exposed to the harassment and potential violence of some
of the more evidently deranged readers here or anyone else
whom those readers could incite.
--Nick
"Nick" <nickbo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1107742916.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I have to say that I am not convinced that there's a
lower bound on bad taste in rec.games.chess.politics.
--Nick
In particular, Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
have been praising the 'honesty' of Sam Sloan.
How would the many readers here who have been the
targets of Sam Sloan's lies feel about that praise?
But it's hardly surprising that Jerzy Ciruk and
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski should admire the 'honesty'
of Sam Sloan, a pathological liar, because Jerzy Ciruk
and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (as the evidence has been
making increasingly clear) are also pathological liars.
Presumably, Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski
may admire Sam Sloan so much because they can see so
much of their own 'moral characters' reflected in his.
"He was a falsehood done in flesh and blood."
--Mark Twain (The Gilded Age)
--Nick
> Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski also have
> been emphatically comparing Sam Sloan favourably to
> me in every possible way. I doubt that any readers
> here apart from Jerzy Ciruk, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski,
> Sam Sloan himself, and perhaps a few of the most
> idiotic readers and worst trolls here would believe
> the kind of rubbish that Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz
> Holsztynski like to keep writing about me.
>
> So I expect that the countless insults and lies written
> by the fanatical 'Sam Sloan admirer trolls' (if I may
> say so), Jerzy Ciruk and Wlodzimierz Holsztynski, to
> attack me personally will make themselves look far worse
> than they could make me look in the perceptions of
> every reader here who has any sense.
> --Nick
Nick the pathological insulter once cited Lawrence`s sentence here : "My
name is for my friends". Apparently "Nick" has no friends here because he
wears a mask of animosity and anonimity :-)
BTW "Nick" claims that Mark Houlsby is his friend and probably therefore he
is missing now :-)
Jerzy Ciruk's lies should be obvious to any reader
with enough memory and a little common sense.
Anyone who has been reading much of what Jerzy Ciruk
has been writing in RGCM should be aware that he has
been insulting Simon ('chapman billy') for expressing
his support and, yes, his friendship for me.
I doubt that 'The Masked Bishop' should be much
impressed by Jerzy Ciruk's frenzied denunciations
of writers who use pseudonyms as 'cowards', though
Jerzy Ciruk seems quite happy to welcome any such
writer with a pseudonym to join him in trolling me.
> BTW "Nick" claims that Mark Houlsby is his friend
> and probably therefore he is missing now :-)
That's more trolling rubbish by Jerzy Ciruk.
--Nick
Nope, he is another anonymous person here.
And BTW he doesn`t express his friendship to you only his disregard to Sam
Sloan.
>
> I doubt that 'The Masked Bishop' should be much
> impressed by Jerzy Ciruk's frenzied denunciations
> of writers who use pseudonyms as 'cowards', though
> Jerzy Ciruk seems quite happy to welcome any such
> writer with a pseudonym to join him in trolling me.
The only troll here you are yourself :-)
> > BTW "Nick" claims that Mark Houlsby is his friend
> > and probably therefore he is missing now :-)
>
> That's more trolling rubbish by Jerzy Ciruk.
>
Rubbish is what you write here. Where is your friend Mark Houlsby ? You
should contact him and ask for help like you did in the past asking me for
help in your flame war with Mike Murray :-)
When he is back he should announce your real name here if you are a real
person and not a coward :-)
As usual my kind regards to the anonymous coward and pathological liar and
insulter "Nick"
Jerzy
Some readers know who Simon is in real life;
some readers know who I am in real life.
> And BTW he doesn`t express his friendship to you
Of course, Jerzy Ciruk could know nothing about what
relationship Simon and I may have away from RGCM.
> only his disregard to Sam Sloan.
And his disapproval of Jerzy Ciruk.
--Nick
The Attack Poodle school of journalism never impressed me, from the right or
left.
I couldn't care less what awards she's received.
"Wickdeer3" <wick...@cs.comKillSpam> wrote in message
news:20050206203619...@mb-m16.news.cs.com...
"You can only be destroyed by believing that you
really are what the white world calls a nigger."
--James Baldwin
--Nick
who care what dat faggot say i be proud to be a nigger
"Jürgen R." <jur...@web.de> wrote in message
news:4203e6a2...@news.individual.de...
> i be proud to be a nigger
Sure. But it is "Nick Bourbaki" (Boobaki)
and Jurgen R. who are racists, and not
JC & WH.
Liar Boobaki is a sick hypocrite, full
of patological hate (as witnessed by
hundreds upon hundreds of his garbage posts)..
Wlod
[snip]
[snip snip]
Sammy, we hardly knew ya.
"Sam S1oan" <s1...@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:2J2FSKED3839...@si93kru1.poster...
> On 4 Feb 2005 21:12:16 -0500, "Tim Hanke" <timoth...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I agree. It's just wrong to get people's hopes up like this.
>>
>>Tim Hanke
>
> Yes, it's wrong.
>
> Sam S1oan
>
>
> Sam S1oan
No longer sloan but s1oan.
Sam now has a "one" in place of an "el".
Ange1o
"StanB" <stan...@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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That was not the real Sam Sloan. Sloan does not use Dizum.com and
hotpop.com.
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Date: 10 Feb 2005 00:04:53 -0000
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From: Sam S1oan <s...@ishipress.com>
Subject: Re: Sam Sloan dead
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On 4 Feb 2005 21:12:16 -0500, "Tim Hanke" <timothyha...@comcast.net>
> > > >I agree. It's just wrong to get people's hopes up like this.
> > >Yes, it's wrong.
> > >Sam S1oan
> >No longer sloan but s1oan.
> >Sam now has a "one" in place of an "el".
> That was not the real Sam Sloan. Sloan does not use Dizum.com and
> hotpop.com.
S1oan has parodied here before, as well.
Yep, however at that time, he signed as Sam S1oan Not.
This time he used Sloan's real email: s...@ishipress.com
The only difference is that he was posting through mail2n...@dizum.com
With Sam not around to badmouth Hanke/Marinello and vocally support his
"good team", I suspect the old guard will regain control. I wonder if his
masters muzzled him for this reason.
Yes, I remember that Juergen R. wrote an *apparent* compliment
about Sam Sloan, which I thought was *obvious sarcasm*, given
Juergen's long previous record of criticising Sam Sloan.
But David Ames seems to have taken it *literally* and jumped
to the wrong conclusion that Juergen truly admires Sam Sloan.
> Apparently there has been a falling out between them at
> some time. Apparently they were on good terms at one time.
As far as I can recall reading, Juergen R. always has been a
determined critic of Sam Sloan. I know of no evidence that
Juergen and Sam Sloan ever 'were on good terms at one time'.
> Now I am beginning to wonder who may have told Sam an
> untruth concerning Peter Leko. *I am beginning to wonder.*
> David Ames
May I suggest that David Ames learn how to read better, keeping
in mind the context of previous relations between writers here,
before he 'begin(s) to wonder' about such matters?
--Nick
>Ah, good. Don't worry. Spammy will be back posting here in no time.
>Tom Klem
Actually, rumor has it that Sam was approached by the Primate Center
at the Bronx Zoo. Reading his web site, they found out about his
super-high sperm count and sperm motility, and they proposed he help
them implement a non-cloning approach to creating a human/gorilla
hybrid.
The offer was too good to pass up: free suppers and breakfasts, only
a few nights away from home and a $500 fee.
That's why he hasn't had time to post lately.
He's scrambling, trying to come up with the $500.
But you called her "ultrapartisan" and a liar. I ask you to back that
up, and you change the subject.
Out of curiosity, do you think Fox News is really "Fair and Balanced?"
Wick Deer
<<snick .. snick>>
--
Tom Klem
"Trust no one, Mr Mulder!"
---Xfiles movie, The well groomed man
"Mike Murray" <mikem...@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:p91r01l9lgmd7r0ab...@4ax.com...
It should be noted that the personal, professional,
and other circumstances of Usenet writers may vary
greatly and some writers may have much more compelling
reasons to use pseudonyms than other writers do.
For an example outside Usenet, there's a 2004 book,
'Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror'
by Anonymous, an author who's been identified only as
a senior official in the US intelligence community.
--Nick
I will not mention his name though, he was on Bill O'Reilly months ago.
Tom Klem
"Nick" <nickbo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1108192720....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
What I meant was that the author's 'been identified only
as a senior official in the US intelligence community'
by what was printed in his book when it was published.
--Nick
What I meant was that the author was 'identified only
>Jürgen R.(jur...@web.de) wrote
>>On Thursday, February 3rd, Samuel H. Sloan died in his sleep.
>>May god take pity on his soul.
>
>
>I pray this news be true. God is Great. Never underestimate the power of
>prayers . . . just five weeks. If true then Ishmael Sam Sloan is in Hell
>where he justly deserve to be.
Sam may have been a nut job, but you need serious fucking help.
Let it go.
Phil
======
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"Beatriz II" <NOTbea...@NOTuscf.com> wrote in message
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Jürgen R.(jur...@web.de) wrote
>On Thursday, February 3rd, Samuel H. Sloan died in his sleep.
>May god take pity on his soul.
I pray this news be true. God is Great. Never underestimate the power of
prayers . . . just five weeks. If true then Ishmael Sam Sloan is in Hell
where he justly deserve to be.
I never even heard of this most evil tool Ishmael before he start to put
his dirty lies about a great lady from Chile into soc.culture.chile. Our
whole church I showed his untruthful webshite, at least 20 prayed with me.
There are no tears for one like him. Minimum his new baby can grow up
without a danger from his finger. Like he use before even in picture.
I do have one deep regret. If truly he died in his sleep that means he felt
no pain. One who has done so much wickedness as Ishmael Sam Sloan does not
deserve a peaceful end, but God is merciful. Rest assured in the next world
he will get what he escaped in this world. God is Great.
Another explanation is he has now receive the legal notice and he has gone
into hiding and pretend he never receive the same. I let someone else
explain what notice, but when the a__hole attack my namesake Beatriz with
such vennom all legal step is taken to deliver justice to Ishmael Sloan.
((But who is this Peter Liko evryone talk about as someone Ishmael Sloan
killed?))
From: Beatriz II <NOTbea...@NOTuscf.com>
Subject: Prayer service for one Ishmael Sam Sloan
Date: Dec 29 2004
Message-ID: <YLLCJNAS3835...@si93kru1.poster>
Ishmael Sam Sloan has given unhappiness and misery to thousands of people
during his life and he is proud of it. It would be far better if he had
never lived. The sooner God removes him the better for the rest of us.
It is not illegal anyplace I know to pray that God punishes or eliminates a
wicked person. We must not do it ourself but draw the attention of the
Almighty to the misery this person causes. The holy books tell us it is not
wrong to pray for the punishment of the truly evil and to leave the work to
all-powerful God.
Do not underestimate the power of prayers. I have in my life seen how joint
prayers have destroyed an arrogant one like Ishmael Sam Sloan. Call it
prayer or voo-doo, I do not mind. I have made my doll and it looj much like
his ugly picture, then I feed it to my dog.
The more of us we pray that Ishmael Sam Sloan be destroyed by God the
better. The time for this prayer is at the exact moment of the New Year,
Eastern (New York) time. So it will be at 9 p.m. 12/31/2004 on the Pacific
coast and at 6 a.m. 1/1/2005 in most of Europe. For other timezones
consult www.worldclock.com or www.timezones.com. Please join with me so we
can pray for God from all over the world not just US to bring the end of
this wholly evil man.
When praying you do not need to give the exact name or location of Ishmael
Sam Sloan. God Almighty knows allready what is in your heart and already
knows who is this Ishmael Sam Sloan and to what place to send his Angel of
Death or Punishment.
"Please God Almighty judge Ishmael Sam Sloan now and let us see your great
hand deliver into, into, into him what he justly deserves."
>Dear Mr Booz,
>"StanB" <stan...@comXXXcast.net> wrote...
>>I understand your angst but it is not right to pray for Sam's sudden
>>death.
>
>Not right? ?
>
>It seems G-d disagreed with you. Many prayed (1/1/2005) that G-d should
>punish Ishmael Sam Sloan for his evil work.
Sam's death is God's way of punishing him? People die every day. Is
God punishing all these people?
> Ismael Sam Sloan was truely evil, so there is no comparison with little liar Liarry.
Truly evil? Sam was a kook. Nothing more. I hope that God can put
things in better perspective than you can.
Organizing group prayers for someone's death is evil.
"Eduard Milch" <MilchEd...@hotmail.dnsarll.pl> wrote in message
news:MA09NVL03839...@si93kru1.poster...
> Dear Mr Booz,
> "StanB" <stan...@comXXXcast.net> wrote...
>>I understand your angst but it is not right to pray for Sam's sudden
>>death.
>
> Not right? ?
>
> It seems G-d disagreed with you. Many prayed (1/1/2005) that G-d should
> punish Ishmael Sam Sloan for his evil work.
>
> Soon after 1/27/2005 there is no more Ishmael Sam Sloan, if the posts from
> jur...@web.de be correct.
>
> It seems to me that G-d may have heard the prayers.
>
> So your "not right" is not right.
>
> Because G-d always is right.
>
> Also Mr. Booz why do you change your tune? Before Ishmael Sam Sloan died
> (assuming that jur...@web.de made a correct claim) you were in support :
>
> In message-ID: <FvmdnelkWI9...@comcast.com> StanB wrote -
> "The above is a prayer, not a threat. Sam is always in my prayers."
>
> In message-ID: <1KmdnWRCjaN...@comcast.com> StanB wrote -
> "Now the original prayer has been spun from a threat into a statement and
> a=
>
> wish. Let us all pray for Larry too."
>
> Why would something you supported then become some thing you do not
> support=
>
> now? Because G-d listened to your prayer? Do not pray for some thing if
> you=
>
> do not want it to happen.
>
> You want also all to pray for "Larry". This means Liarry Parrthenon (sic)?
> I do not see evidence of evil in this "Larry", only of mental retardations
> cruelties lying and desire to seek attention. So I do not pray about him.
> It is best all ignore Liarry and pack him into a killfile. Ismael Sam
> Sloan=
>
> was truely evil, so there is no comparison with little liar Liarry.
>
>
>
>>"Beatriz II" <NOTbea...@NOTuscf.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:FOMO1W86383...@anonymous.poster...
>>>J=FCrgen R.(jur...@web.de) wrote
>>>>On Thursday, February 3rd, Samuel H. Sloan died in his sleep.
>>>>May god take pity on his soul.
>>>
>>>I pray this news be true. God is Great. Never underestimate the power of
>>>prayers . . . just five weeks. If true then Ishmael Sam Sloan is in
>>>Hell=
>
>>>where he justly deserve to be.
> snips ...
>>>From: Beatriz II <NOTbea...@NOTuscf.com>
>>>Subject: Prayer service for one Ishmael Sam Sloan
>>>Date: Dec 29 2004
>>>Message-ID: <YLLCJNAS3835...@si93kru1.poster>
>>>
>>>The more of us we pray that Ishmael Sam Sloan be destroyed by G-d the
>>>better. The time for this prayer is at the exact moment of the New Year,
>>>Eastern (New York) time.So it will be at 9 p.m. 12/31/2004 on the
>>>Pacific=
>
>>>coast and at 6 a.m. 1/1/2005 in most of Europe. For other timezones
>>>consult www.worldclock.com or www.timezones.com.Please join with me so
>>>we=
>
>>>can pray for G-d from all over the world not just US to bring the end of
>>>this wholly evil man.
>
>
>J=FCrgen R.(jur...@web.de) wrote
>>On Thursday, February 3rd, Samuel H. Sloan died in his sleep.
>>May god take pity on his soul.
>
>
>I pray this news be true. God is Great. Never underestimate the power of
>prayers . . . just five weeks. If true then Ishmael Sam Sloan is in Hell
>where he justly deserve to be.
>
>I never even heard of this most evil tool Ishmael before he start to put
>his dirty lies about a great lady from Chile into soc.culture.chile. Our
>whole church I showed his untruthful webshite, at least 20 prayed with me.
You prayed for his death?
I'd be concerned, if I didn't think this was yet another Sam Sloan
alias. Is this new? Sam Sloan disguised as somebody praying for the
death of Sam Sloan? And a while ago, Sam Sloan was disguised as
somebody posting under a crude imitation of Sam Sloan. And before that
...
It was me and I don't think it is right we should pray for a sudden death. A
slow one, well maybe.
I like your idea. But I didn't think "StanB" was a Sam Sloan alias, I
was thinking of "Beatriz II". Have you noticed how our prayerful
contributor likes to cross post to half a dozen usenet groups you never
heard of? Must at least be taking lessons from Sam. I took the
liberty of removing all the groups except RGCP from this message. I
would just as soon not splash my name all over soc.culture.chile, etc.
Too bad I didn't think of that until I had posted my previous message.
"MilChess" <MilC...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108535376....@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The names of the defendants are unfamiliar. These cases may relate to
Sam's earlier attempts to gain access to the party nomination process
in New York state.
David Ames