OT: BillB proven right yet again
BillB
as a legitimate *informal* (not pejorative, as has been repeatedly claimed
here)descriptor for members of the stilted and formal (and, in my opinion,
awkward sounding) "Tea Party movement"
Oxford, widely recognized as *the* leading authority on the English
language, issued this statement:
"It should be noted that the term "teabagger" appears on Oxford's list
because of the usage cited [describing members of a certain political
movement] on that list, not because of any other meaning. Citations for the
political sense were found in a number of legitimate sources throughout the
year. As a reference to members of the currently active Tea Party, the word
has been used in speech and print by both liberals and conservatives. In
this context, the term "teabagger" is a reasonably conceived informal name
for an affiliate of the Tea Party, and as a word in the news, it earned a
mention for the year 2009.
Having deliberated carefully over the word-usage evidence, Oxford's
lexicographers are confident in their judgment that "teabagger" the
political term stands distinctly apart from "teabagger" the vulgar term."
Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I am
being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is clearly
a bigot?
Bea Foroni
New Oxford American Dictionary?
Why didn't you just go with Pravda? Or better yet, The Koran (blessed
be His name)?
David Monaghan
wrote:
>New Oxford American Dictionary?
>Why didn't you just go with Pravda? Or better yet, The Koran (blessed
>be His name)?
I know the answer to this one: "Because they're not dictionaries." Is there
a prize?
DaveM
TruthSeeker
> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I am
> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is clearly
> a bigot?
No, because YOU use it as a vulgar pejorative.
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TruthSeeker
BillB
"TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
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Are you obstinately devoted to that opinion?
Clave
You sure whine a lot.
And I mean a LOT.
Jim
Bea Foroni
Your quoted text is not linked or attributed. Shame on you.
The only place I can find the quoted statement is in Huffington Post,
and that is from two years ago. Could you please tell us where you got
the Oxford statement. And as an act of honesty, can you link it back
to an Oxford release or something close. Thank you.
BillB
"Bea Foroni" <BeaF...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>Your quoted text is not linked or attributed. Shame on you.
Shame on me? I am posting to RGP, not writing a Ph.D. dissertation.
The statement is apparently that of Oxford Senior Lexicographer Christine
Lindberg, on behalf of Oxford Dictionary, in response to an inquiry from
Mediaite columnist Tommy Christopher about Oxford's decision to shortlist
"teabagger" as a "Word of the Year" for 2009.
I would be nothing short of dumbfounded if they just made that up out of
thin air. Do you want me to dig up her email address for you so you can
verify that those were her exact words? I really can't see them lying about
it.
>The only place I can find the quoted statement is in Huffington Post,
>and that is from two years ago. Could you please tell us where you got
>the Oxford statement. And as an act of honesty, can you link it back
>to an Oxford release or something close. Thank you.
An act of honesty? Are you trying to imply I was somehow being dishonest?
Yes, I saw it on the Huffington Post. When I googled "Teabagger politics
definition" it was on the first page of results.
The article was updated on March 18, 2010, so I don't think it's honest to
say it was from "two years ago." Shame on you.
Bea Foroni
> "Bea Foroni" <BeaFor...@msn.com> wrote in message
Just trying to keep you from turning 'Irish' if you know what I mean.
BTW, The link I clicked was not an updated one. I would like to read
the comments in the newer one.
Bea Foroni
>
> - Show quoted text -
So, I looked up "teabagger" on Google, not much good from that search.
I then went to the New Oxford American Dictionary website, but they
want money.
So then I went to www.merriam-webster.com and looked up "teabagger".
No such word.
I tried Dictionary.com and FreeDictionary.com with the same results.
I even tried a few others and was not able to find a definition for
"teabagger".
The only place I could find a definition was UrbanDictionary.com,
those are the people who supplied the wonderful definitions for
"queening".
My conclusion is that the word "teabagger" is not an acceptable word
in polite company.
Keep in mind, I do not feel RGP is much in the way of polite company.
BillB
It can take a while for a neologism to make its way into dictionaries. In
the meantime, I am very comfortable going with the "confident judgment" of
Oxford's lexicographers. It is, after all, the most authoritative English
language dictionary on earth.
I was hearing the term on television and using myself before I had any idea
that it had another meaning. Despite Lieseeker's absurd claim that he can
read my mind, when I use it I do not intend any reference to the vulgar
meaning whatsoever. That's gross! Quoting Oxford lexicographers again, they
take the position that "the political term stands distinctly apart from
'teabagger' the vulgar term," and I agree, because that's how I've always
used it. There are no shortage of mainstream words in the English language,
perfectly acceptable in polite company, that have vulgar meanings in certain
contexts (eg. pussy, dike)
Truthseeker
Is that the best you have to offer?
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
--
Truthseeker
susan
"Bea Foroni"
>Your quoted text is not linked or attributed. Shame on you.
> The only place I can find the quoted statement is in Huffington Post,
and that is from two years ago. Could you please tell us where you got
>the Oxford statement. And as an act of honesty, can you link it back
to an Oxford release or something close. Thank you.
Not only that, but American dictionaries - isn't the USofA where the word
is being applied to? - say nothing of the sort.
Truthseeker
> It can take a while for a neologism to make its way into dictionaries. In
> the meantime, I am very comfortable going with the "confident judgment" of
> Oxford's lexicographers. It is, after all, the most authoritative English
> language dictionary on earth.
>
> I was hearing the term on television and using myself before I had any idea
> that it had another meaning. Despite Lieseeker's absurd claim that he can
> read my mind, when I use it I do not intend any reference to the vulgar
> meaning whatsoever. That's gross! Quoting Oxford lexicographers again, they
> take the position that "the political term stands distinctly apart from
> 'teabagger' the vulgar term," and I agree, because that's how I've always
> used it. There are no shortage of mainstream words in the English language,
> perfectly acceptable in polite company, that have vulgar meanings in certain
> contexts (eg. pussy, dike)
What typical BillB bombast. Now I gotta open a window to air out the room.
Hint: you can tell the intended meaning of those examples from context.
Your use of "teabagger" is vulgar, provocative and bigoted.
In your bigotry you are a lot like the in-the-closet homosexual
politician who crusades against gays, until he is found out.
--
Truthseeker
susan
"Bea Foroni" wrote in message
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On Apr 29, 8:49 pm, "BillB"
> The statement is apparently
This is rich - if anyone of us on BBillB's hit list had quoted something and
then said *apparently* we would have been chastised from now until forever.
Dave the Clueless
It should be noted that you have no evidence of this. And trying to
legitimize your bigotry is an old, old trick.
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David Monaghan
wrote:
> Keep in mind, I do not feel RGP is much in the way of polite company.
My thoughts exactly. It's de rigueur to refer to your political opponents in
derogatory terms in this newsgroup. If "teabagger" _isn't_ insulting, it has
no place here.
DaveM
BillB
"Dave the Clueless" <frac...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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No evidence for what? I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
I don't even know who I am supposed to be bigoted against. You guys have
been asked several times by several people to support your accusation that I
am a "bigot," and you've utterly failed to even attempt a cogent answer.
I am intolerant of racists. I have admitted that. I am intolerant of
pedophiles. I have admitted that too. Is that why I am supposedly a "bigot?"
VegasJerry
hell. The very illiterates that can't begin to explain what a bigot is now
claim ownership to teabagger.
Priceless!
Jerry (can hear the crying and wailing) 'n Vegas
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Clave
"Truthseeker" <truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
news:LsOdnUebSfZeZSbQ...@giganews.com...
> On 4/29/11 8:50 PM, Clave wrote:
>> "TruthSeeker"<Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
>> news:xcadnanzyJgn6CbQ...@giganews.com...
>>> BillB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I
>>>> am
>>>> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is
>>>> clearly
>>>> a bigot?
>>>
>>> No, because YOU use it as a vulgar pejorative.
>>
>> You sure whine a lot.
>>
>> And I mean a LOT.
>
> Is that the best you have to offer?
It's alreeady more effort than you're worth.
Jim
Bea Foroni
> "Bea Foroni" <BeaFor...@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42499867-1c93-454b...@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 29, 9:14 pm, Bea Foroni <BeaFor...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >No such word.
>
> >I tried Dictionary.com and FreeDictionary.com with the same results.
>
> >I even tried a few others and was not able to find a definition for
>
> >"teabagger".
>
> >The only place I could find a definition was UrbanDictionary.com,
>
> >those are the people who supplied the wonderful definitions for
> >"queening".
> > My conclusion is that the word "teabagger" is not an acceptable word
> >in polite company.
>
> >Keep in mind, I do not feel RGP is much in the way of polite company.
>
> It can take a while for a neologism to make its way into dictionaries. In
> the meantime, I am very comfortable going with the "confident judgment" of
> Oxford's lexicographers. It is, after all, the most authoritative English
> language dictionary on earth.
>
> I was hearing the term on television and using myself before I had any idea
> that it had another meaning. Despite Lieseeker's absurd claim that he can
> read my mind, when I use it I do not intend any reference to the vulgar
> meaning whatsoever. That's gross! Quoting Oxford lexicographers again, they
> take the position that "the political term stands distinctly apart from
> 'teabagger' the vulgar term," and I agree, because that's how I've always
> used it. There are no shortage of mainstream words in the English language,
> perfectly acceptable in polite company, that have vulgar meanings in certain
> contexts (eg. pussy, dike)
I do notice that those most offended by teabagger are the ones who
were most outspoken in support of Dr Laura's use of the "N" word.
Funny world we live in, huh?
Robert Ladd
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
news:dwJup.43782$sS4....@newsfe11.iad...
"teabagger" is like a whip. In almost all instances that you crack it at
someone, your point is to make it sting.
Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to belittle
those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads your
words know that is your point.
Robert Ladd
BillB
"Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ipj407$mar$1...@dont-email.me...
> Even if it is clearly defined as you stated above, your use of the word
> "teabagger" is like a whip. In almost all instances that you crack it at
> someone, your point is to make it sting.
>
> Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to belittle
> those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads
> your words know that is your point.
It probably just seems that way to you because I've never been able to think
of anything good to say about them. In the unlikely event I ever do, you can
rest assured I'll still be calling them Teabaggers. I think it has a ring to
it.
Clave
<...>
> Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to belittle
> those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads
> your words know that is your point.
I really don't get how you people are so fucking dim as to think that
there's any doubt that "teabagger" is used by people like me as a pejorative
to describe teabaggers.
Here's a clue, you collective Einsteins: of fucking COURSE it is. How
god-damned stupid are you people?
Jim
susan
"Bea Foroni"
>I do notice that those most offended by teabagger are the ones who
>were most outspoken in support of Dr Laura's use of the "N" word.
>Funny world we live in, huh?
we, as a nation, are becoming so politically correct it's ridiculous - these
coaches and/or athletes shouting a profanity or using a unaccetptable word
is normal, natural and no big thing. Someone using the word gay in an
outburst and everyone is all over them. I some some Mexican and Polish in
my ancestry - call me wetback or pollack any time you want - this is so
stupid. If you're gay, you're gay. If you're white you're a homie. If
you're Italian you're a Dago.
I was watching a show last week and the lead said the word asshole. The
station in its wisdom bleeped out part of it - we heard ass**** - and he was
a guido who said it.
Robert Ladd
"Clave" <claviusd...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:ipj5ia$6um$1...@dont-email.me...
remember that Jimbo.
From Bill's OP, "Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their
claim that I am
being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is clearly
a bigot?"
He is clearly pretending that he isn't using it as a pejorative. Just
another BillB lie.
Robert Ladd
popinjay999
> I [have] some Mexican and Polish in
> my ancestry - call me wetback or pollack any time you want - this is so
> stupid.
But call her "stupid" and see what happens.
TruthSeeker
Yet you make the effort. Why is that?
--
TruthSeeker
TruthSeeker
> "Clave" <claviusd...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>> I really don't get how you people are so fucking dim as to think that
>> there's any doubt that "teabagger" is used by people like me as a
>> pejorative to describe teabaggers.
>>
>> Here's a clue, you collective Einsteins: of fucking COURSE it is. How
>> god-damned stupid are you people?
> When you call someone on a lie, then that makes you stupid. I'll have to
> remember that Jimbo.
>
> From Bill's OP, "Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their
> claim that I am
> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is clearly
> a bigot?"
>
> He is clearly pretending that he isn't using it as a pejorative. Just
> another BillB lie.
Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse. It
shows their desire to annoy and offend rather than enlighten. People
wishing to make effective and persuasive arguments don't resort to such
foolishness.
That I point out their intent to offend does not imply that I myself am
offended by it. Their vulgarities have no power over anyone who does
not grant them that power.
--
TruthSeeker
Clave
Why do people poke frogs with sticks?
Jim
Clave
<...>
> From Bill's OP, "Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their
> claim that I am being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term
> "Teabagger" is clearly a bigot?"
Only if you want to persist in your incorrect usage of the word.
There's no more bigotry attached to "teabagger" than "asshole" or "mooing
idiot", which seem to be pretty synonymous around here.
Jim
Clave
<...>
> Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
> their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse...
Like people who say "Democrat Party".
Jim
Clave
<...>
> Even if it is clearly defined as you stated above, your use of the word
> "teabagger" is like a whip. In almost all instances that you crack it at
> someone, your point is to make it sting.
Boo-fucking-hoo.
You're *SO* oppressed.
Sheesh.
Jim
susan
"Clave"
>Why do people poke frogs with sticks?
>Jim
So they can become slaves of the state?
Clave
"susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message
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If you're going to act like shit on my shoes, that's one thing, but do you
have to be so motherfuckingly dull-witted about it?
Damn.
Jim
susan
"Clave"
>If you're going to act like shit on my shoes, that's one thing, but do you
>have to be so motherfuckingly dull-witted about it?
>Damn.
>Jim
I love you
IDIOT
brewmaster
But if somebody says "democrat party" you get all fucking upset you
hypocrite.
--
If a meth addict was in cardiac arrest, just say, "Aww, fuck it. He's
just going to go out and do it again." -- BillB
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susan
"brewmaster" wrote in message news:oku098x...@recgroups.com...
On May 1 2011 1:29 AM, Clave wrote:
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ipj407$mar$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
> > Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to
> > belittle
> > those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads
> > your words know that is your point.
>
> I really don't get how you people are so fucking dim as to think that
> there's any doubt that "teabagger" is used by people like me as a
> pejorative
> to describe teabaggers.
>
>> Here's a clue, you collective Einsteins: of fucking COURSE it is. How
>> god-damned stupid are you people?
>
>> Jim
>But if somebody says "democrat party" you get all fucking upset you
>hypocrite.
He's an IDIOT hypocrite
He's a worshipper of B-BillB. Agree with him and/or his mentor or you are
WRONG and god-damned STUPID.
brewmaster
The term, if used correctly, would be "democrat party". However, the
democrats decided that if they called it "democratic party" it would make
it look as though they were the only ones who elected their
representatives democratically, and the republicans did not, which is of
course bullshit. "democratic party" is a little game they are playing.
Yet most people still use that term because that is what they want, you
cock-preferring american.
--
If a meth addict was in cardiac arrest, just say, "Aww, fuck it. He's
just going to go out and do it again." -- BillB
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Clave
"brewmaster" wrote in message news:oku098x...@recgroups.com...
On May 1 2011 1:29 AM, Clave wrote:
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ipj407$mar$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
> > Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to
> > belittle
> > those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads
> > your words know that is your point.
>
> I really don't get how you people are so fucking dim as to think that
> there's any doubt that "teabagger" is used by people like me as a
> pejorative
> to describe teabaggers.
>
> Here's a clue, you collective Einsteins: of fucking COURSE it is. How
> god-damned stupid are you people?
>
> Jim
But if somebody says "democrat party" you get all fucking upset you
hypocrite.
====================================================================
If you need to believe that, you just go right ahead, Peanut.
Clave
"brewmaster" wrote in message news:lpu098x...@recgroups.com...
On May 1 2011 12:33 PM, Clave wrote:
> "TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
> news:EMidnX3vJYKHPCDQ...@giganews.com...
>
> <...>
>
> > Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
> > their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse...
>
> Like people who say "Democrat Party".
>
> Jim
The term, if used correctly, would be "democrat party".
========================================================
Just like the term, if used correctly, is "Teabagger".
Happy now?
TruthSeeker
> "TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
> news:rfWdnftOAoAsAyDQ...@giganews.com...
>> Clave wrote:
>>> "Truthseeker" <truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
>>> news:LsOdnUebSfZeZSbQ...@giganews.com...
>>>> On 4/29/11 8:50 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>> "TruthSeeker"<Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
>>>>> news:xcadnanzyJgn6CbQ...@giganews.com...
>>>>>> BillB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is
>>>>>>> clearly a bigot?
>>>>>> No, because YOU use it as a vulgar pejorative.
>>>>> You sure whine a lot.
>>>>> And I mean a LOT.
>>>> Is that the best you have to offer?
>>> It's alreeady more effort than you're worth.
>> Yet you make the effort. Why is that?
>
> Why do people poke frogs with sticks?
Because they think it's worth the effort?
--
TruthSeeker
TruthSeeker
Yes, that is another valid example. As is those who say "Repugs."
--
TruthSeeker
BillB
What about people like you, who use the term "left-wingnut?" What does that
prove about you (besides being a world-class hypocrite)?
TruthSeeker
> On May 1 2011 12:33 PM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
>> news:EMidnX3vJYKHPCDQ...@giganews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
>>> their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse...
>> Like people who say "Democrat Party".
>>
>> Jim
>
> The term, if used correctly, would be "democrat party".
No, the correct name is the "Democratic Party." Just as it is the
"Republican Party" and not the "Republic Party" or the term often used
by hatemongering left-loons, the "Repugs."
> However, the
> democrats decided that if they called it "democratic party" it would make
> it look as though they were the only ones who elected their
> representatives democratically, and the republicans did not, which is of
> course bullshit.
That's true enough, but they still have the right to name themselves
what they want, and the people who shorten it to "Democrat Party" are
playing the same game in reverse.
It's a similar silliness to the people who call Tea Partiers
"teabaggers," except that because teabagger has a vulgar sexual
connotation they cream in their pants doing it.
--
TruthSeeker
BillB
>>>> Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
>>>> their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse...
>>>
>>> Like people who say "Democrat Party".
>>
>> Yes, that is another valid example. As is those who say "Repugs."
>
>
> What about people like you, who use the term "left-wingnut?" What does
> that prove about you (besides being a world-class hypocrite)?
Hello? You got awfully quiet all of a sudden Mr. Lieseeking hypocrite.
bub
>Hello? You got awfully quiet all of a sudden Mr. Lieseeking hypocrite.
wow, you sure are acting like some fat little drama queen.
just wow
someone doesn't respond in what you think is a timely manner so
they are avoiding you? not everyone sits around waiting on rgp to type
away, well except for maybe you .
now why don't you just sit there, have somemore pizza and try and find
someone in the third world who is desperate enough to sell
body parts...ya know the whole "If old people would just agree to die
a little quicker, " thing for everyone else.
BillB
"bub" <b...@plottus.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 May 2011 18:10:10 -0700, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hello? You got awfully quiet all of a sudden Mr. Lieseeking hypocrite.
>
>
> wow, you sure are acting like some fat little drama queen.
> just wow
>
> someone doesn't respond in what you think is a timely manner so
> they are avoiding you? not everyone sits around waiting on rgp to type
> away, well except for maybe you .
I've pointed out his hypocrisy to him several times, and he always does the
same thing...runs away. Same as he did this time. Same thing he did when I
proved he was an economic illiterate of interstellar magnitude. He just
likes to pretend he didn't say the things he did.
He has seemingly made it his mission in life to label me as a "bigot"
because he doesn't like commonly used term I use, invented by the Teabaggers
themselves and endorsed by Oxford lexicographers, to describe the far-right
loons in that so-called "movement." Meanwhile he says nothing to the people
on the right doing exactly the same thing, and ignores the fact that he does
exactly the same thing to describe people he perceives to be on the left.
I think he might be angling for RGP Hypocrite of the Year Award. I know he
has my vote.
Robert Ladd
>
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ipk1sp$e1e$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <...>
>
>> From Bill's OP, "Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their
>> claim that I am being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term
>> "Teabagger" is clearly a bigot?"
>
> Only if you want to persist in your incorrect usage of the word.
>
snipped copy of my post was "From Bill's OP" if you count OP as a word and
only one word. So, which word did I use incorrectly?
Are you having trouble with reading comprehension? The quotes around the
"Can...bigot?", mean they were supplied by BillB, Jim.
> There's no more bigotry attached to "teabagger" than "asshole" or "mooing
> idiot", which seem to be pretty synonymous around here.
>
Throwing in the name "Clave" would bring that list to a more perfect
completion.
Robert Ladd
> Jim
>
bub
>
>
>I've pointed out his hypocrisy to him several times, and he always does the
>same thing...runs away. Same as he did this time. Same thing he did when I
>proved he was an economic illiterate of interstellar magnitude. He just
>likes to pretend he didn't say the things he did.
>
>He has seemingly made it his mission in life to label me as a "bigot"
>because he doesn't like commonly used term I use, invented by the Teabaggers
>themselves and endorsed by Oxford lexicographers, to describe the far-right
>loons in that so-called "movement." Meanwhile he says nothing to the people
>on the right doing exactly the same thing, and ignores the fact that he does
>exactly the same thing to describe people he perceives to be on the left.
>
>I think he might be angling for RGP Hypocrite of the Year Award. I know he
>has my vote.
>
hello? took you over an hour to answer
maybe he has something better to do other than sit on his ass in front
of a computer posting things that he deems important and relevant, uhh
like you
you really are a little drama queen aint ya?
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"I prefer Teabaggers "
billb (teabagee?)
Clave
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>
> "Clave" <claviusd...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:ipkceh$due$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:ipk1sp$e1e$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> From Bill's OP, "Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with
>>> their claim that I am being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the
>>> term "Teabagger" is clearly a bigot?"
>>
>> Only if you want to persist in your incorrect usage of the word.
>>
> My "incorrect usage" of what word, Jim? The only 3 words I used in your
> snipped copy of my post was "From Bill's OP" if you count OP as a word and
> only one word. So, which word did I use incorrectly?
>
> Are you having trouble with reading comprehension? The quotes around the
> "Can...bigot?", mean they were supplied by BillB, Jim.
OK, I did in fact misread the post.
Mea culpa.
Jim
Robert Ladd
hurt me one bit. I'm just pointing out Bill's lie in which he's suddenly
trying to contend that he's not using it as a pejorative. He builds it into
sentences where he appears to get a little chuckle everytime he types it
like some grade school kid calling someone a "forker". "Hey, I didn't mean
anything other than he uses a fork to eat his food. giggle, giggle,
giggle".
Robert Ladd
BillB
> I'm not a tea party member, participant, follower, lover, hater. It
> doesn't hurt me one bit. I'm just pointing out Bill's lie in which he's
> suddenly trying to contend that he's not using it as a pejorative. He
> builds it into sentences where he appears to get a little chuckle
> everytime he types it like some grade school kid calling someone a
> "forker". "Hey, I didn't mean anything other than he uses a fork to eat
> his food. giggle, giggle, giggle".
That's just not true. I use it wherever I would otherwise use the awkward
and more tedious term "Tea Party Member." I am very consistent.
In fact, I actually found a post where I complimented certain Teabaggers for
being honest. If I show it to you, will you STFU?
BillB
> hello? took you over an hour to answer
No, I posted those questions 5 minutes after he posted. As I said, he has
already established a clear pattern of running away when exposed for being a
moron, a hypocrite, a liar, an economic illiterate, etc. etc.
Do you agree he is a hypocrite for complaining about my use of the term
Teabagger when he describes people he disagrees with politically as
"left-wingnuts?" How about 10 seconds of honesty for once in your life,
bub? Try it, you'll like it.
> maybe he has something better to do other than sit on his ass in front
> of a computer posting things that he deems important and relevant, uhh
> like you
I doubt it, considering how much of his time he has spent obsessing over my
use of a widely accepted term to describe members of a lunatic fringe
organization, bent on bringing down the United States of America (through
ignorance or design, I'm not sure).
> you really are a little drama queen aint ya?
LOL! If I'm a drama queen, what are the people who have made at least a
HUNDRED posts complaining about my use of the widely used term Teabagger?
Clave
"Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Well in that case, welcome to Usenet.
Jim
bub
>No, I posted those questions 5 minutes after he posted.
i was mentioning you answering my post,hello?
took you longer than that to answer ...i figured you ran away
>Do you agree he is a hypocrite for complaining about my use of the term
>Teabagger when he describes people he disagrees with politically as
>"left-wingnuts?"
teabaggers huh?
"No exact results found for "teabaggers" in the dictionary."
http://oxforddictionaries.com/noresults?dictionaryVersion=region-us&isWritersAndEditors=true&noresults=true&page=1&pageSize=20&q=+teabaggers&searchUri=All&sort=alpha&type=dictionarysearch
so how exactly are you using the term 'teabagger'?
>I doubt it, considering how much of his time he has spent obsessing over my
>use of a widely accepted term to describe members of a lunatic fringe
>organization, bent on bringing down the United States of America
see above
>LOL! If I'm a drama queen, what are the people who have made at least a
>HUNDRED posts complaining about my use of the widely used term Teabagger?
>
well gosh billy, you are such a thought provoking figure and
really make everyone realize how wrong they are.
you sure are making a difference ain't ya? gosh
we all respect your opinion on how " If old people would just agree
to die a little quicker" and maybe then they can stop looking for
third world people to buy body parts from .
========================
bub
Hello? You got awfully quiet all of a sudden
that's ok billy i got people coming over
maybe one of these days if you get a real full time job, you can cut
back on your stupid rants on here, even though you are making a
difference on here
have a good nite typing away and keep thinking about how important you
are
Pepe Papon
<Truth...@nospam.us> wrote:
>BillB wrote:
>
>> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I am
>> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is clearly
>> a bigot?
>
>No, because YOU use it as a vulgar pejorative.
That's a neat bit of mindreading. Did you learn that from Beldin?
BillB
>>Do you agree he is a hypocrite for complaining about my use of the term
>>Teabagger when he describes people he disagrees with politically as
>>"left-wingnuts?"
>
> teabaggers huh?
> "No exact results found for "teabaggers" in the dictionary."
> http://oxforddictionaries.com/noresults?dictionaryVersion=region-us&isWritersAndEditors=true&noresults=true&page=1&pageSize=20&q=+teabaggers&searchUri=All&sort=alpha&type=dictionarysearch
Just how fucking stupid are you? Did you read the quote in my OP from Oxford
Senior Lexicographer Christine Lindberg?
"Citations for the political sense were found in a number of legitimate
sources throughout the
year. As a reference to members of the currently active Tea Party, the word
has been used in speech and print by both liberals and conservatives. In
this context, the term "teabagger" is a reasonably conceived informal name
for an affiliate of the Tea Party...Having deliberated carefully over the
word-usage evidence, Oxford's
lexicographers are confident in their judgment that "teabagger" the
political term stands distinctly apart from "teabagger" the vulgar term."
What part of that don't you understand? Printed dictionaries *respond* to
language usage, they don't create it. That a neologism has not made it into
dictionaries yet means nothing. Oxford lexicographers have studied the word,
and those are their comments. Let me know if you need it explained to you in
terms a high school dropout can understand.
> well gosh billy, you are such a thought provoking figure and
> really make everyone realize how wrong they are.
> you sure are making a difference ain't ya? gosh
> we all respect your opinion on how " If old people would just agree
> to die a little quicker" and maybe then they can stop looking for
> third world people to buy body parts from .
Huh? Stop drooling on yourself.
How about that 10 seconds of honesty I asked you for?
Is "Truthseeker" a hypocrite, or not? Are you?
Pepe Papon
<truth...@nospam.us> wrote:
>On 4/30/11 2:58 AM, BillB wrote:
>
>> It can take a while for a neologism to make its way into dictionaries. In
>> the meantime, I am very comfortable going with the "confident judgment" of
>> Oxford's lexicographers. It is, after all, the most authoritative English
>> language dictionary on earth.
>>
>> I was hearing the term on television and using myself before I had any idea
>> that it had another meaning. Despite Lieseeker's absurd claim that he can
>> read my mind, when I use it I do not intend any reference to the vulgar
>> meaning whatsoever. That's gross! Quoting Oxford lexicographers again, they
>> take the position that "the political term stands distinctly apart from
>> 'teabagger' the vulgar term," and I agree, because that's how I've always
>> used it. There are no shortage of mainstream words in the English language,
>> perfectly acceptable in polite company, that have vulgar meanings in certain
>> contexts (eg. pussy, dike)
>
>
>What typical BillB bombast. Now I gotta open a window to air out the room.
>
>Hint: you can tell the intended meaning of those examples from context.
> Your use of "teabagger" is vulgar, provocative and bigoted.
I'm not seeing the vulgarity in his use. Can you point out to me the
characteristics of his use that are distinct from how one would use
the term politically?
Pepe Papon
<a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>On May 1 2011 12:33 PM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
>> news:EMidnX3vJYKHPCDQ...@giganews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> > Their use of the terms does have some positive value. It shows that
>> > their writing is for shock value and not for meaningful discourse...
>>
>> Like people who say "Democrat Party".
>>
>> Jim
>
>The term, if used correctly, would be "democrat party". However, the
>democrats decided that if they called it "democratic party" it would make
>it look as though they were the only ones who elected their
>representatives democratically, and the republicans did not, which is of
>course bullshit. "democratic party" is a little game they are playing.
>Yet most people still use that term because that is what they want, you
>cock-preferring american.
Sorry I have to tell you this, but that's just complete nonsense.
"Democratic" is an adjective that describes the party. And the name
"Democratic Party" no more makes it look like they have a monopoly on
democracy than the name "Republican Party" makes it look like they
have a monopoly on our republican form of government.
Pepe Papon
wrote:
>> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I am
>> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is
>> clearly a bigot?
>>
>Even if it is clearly defined as you stated above, your use of the word
>"teabagger" is like a whip. In almost all instances that you crack it at
>someone, your point is to make it sting.
>
>Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to belittle
>those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads your
>words know that is your point.
Does that make him a bigot?
Robert Ladd
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or stupid enough to be a bad troll. So I'm going to give you a rating both
ways. 7.5 on the humor meter, 1.5 on the troll-o-meter.
Robert Ladd
Robert Ladd
>
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:iplfeh$1dd$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>> I'm not a tea party member, participant, follower, lover, hater. It
>> doesn't hurt me one bit. I'm just pointing out Bill's lie in which he's
>> suddenly trying to contend that he's not using it as a pejorative. He
>> builds it into sentences where he appears to get a little chuckle
>> everytime he types it like some grade school kid calling someone a
>> "forker". "Hey, I didn't mean anything other than he uses a fork to eat
>> his food. giggle, giggle, giggle".
>
> That's just not true. I use it wherever I would otherwise use the awkward
> and more tedious term "Tea Party Member." I am very consistent.
>
it pejoratively?
> In fact, I actually found a post where I complimented certain Teabaggers
> for being honest. If I show it to you, will you STFU?
Why would one posted compliment shut me up about your use of the word
Teabagger pejoratively, when you claim that you don't use it that way.
Would you accept that someone throwing around the n-word is really not
trying to anger anyone since they may have posted once with a compliment
about what good basketball players those n------ are?
Stop Bill. It's time to back off on this one and let it die.
Robert Ladd
BillB
>> That's just not true. I use it wherever I would otherwise use the awkward
>> and more tedious term "Tea Party Member." I am very consistent.
>>
> So, by saying you are "very consistent", are you claiming that you don't
> use it pejoratively?
Yes, I am saying that's the word I use 99% of the time instead of the more
awkward "Tea Party Member."
It has nothing to do with trying to level an insult by saying the word
itself.
What is inherently pejorative about it, except to the extent of the type of
person it describes? The word came from the Tea Party itself.
>> In fact, I actually found a post where I complimented certain Teabaggers
>> for being honest. If I show it to you, will you STFU?
> Why would one posted compliment shut me up about your use of the word
> Teabagger pejoratively, when you claim that you don't use it that way.
> Would you accept that someone throwing around the n-word is really not
> trying to anger anyone since they may have posted once with a compliment
> about what good basketball players those n------ are?
>
> Stop Bill. It's time to back off on this one and let it die.
That's not what I said. You said I use it when I want to sting someone, or
some such nonsense. That's just not the case. I use the word because that's
the word I use. It's not any more complicated than that. If I was
complimenting them, I would call them Teabaggers. If I was insulting them,
I'd call them Teabaggers. I do find it a little amusing that THEY made it
up, and then backed off it when it became popular usage and they found out
it had some sexual meaning. I personally SAW Teabaggers on CNN calling
themselves Teabaggers. I'm sorry, but you can't unring a bell.
Plus, it's just not as awkward as the alternatives for informal speech and
writing.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
For all the informal political slang that is used around here, I utterly
fail to see why "Teabagger" should be singled out as a special case.
Pepe Papon
wrote:
>> "BillB proven right yet again"
>
>*apparenty* the New Oxford American Dictionary has redefined the word
>"proven" to be synonymous with "ain't."
Explain your reasoning, please.
Pepe Papon
<Truth...@nospam.us> wrote:
>It's a similar silliness to the people who call Tea Partiers
>"teabaggers," except that because teabagger has a vulgar sexual
>connotation they cream in their pants doing it.
Bullshit. Most of us have already told you that we'd never heard of
the vulgar meaning when it became popular to call Tea Partiers
"teabaggers".
Pepe Papon
wrote:
>
>"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:7nlsr6dh9hrvlm2fm...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 1 May 2011 01:01:03 -0700, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Can we all now agree that anyone who persists with their claim that I am
>>>> being vulgar or using pejorative when I use the term "Teabagger" is
>>>> clearly a bigot?
>>>>
>>>Even if it is clearly defined as you stated above, your use of the word
>>>"teabagger" is like a whip. In almost all instances that you crack it at
>>>someone, your point is to make it sting.
>>>
>>>Please don't be disingenuous and pretend like you don't use it to belittle
>>>those that you call "teabaggers". You, and almost everyone that reads
>>>your
>>>words know that is your point.
>>
>> Does that make him a bigot?
>>
>Well Seth, I don't know if you are clever enough to be doing this as humor
>or stupid enough to be a bad troll. So I'm going to give you a rating both
>ways. 7.5 on the humor meter, 1.5 on the troll-o-meter.
Yeah, but does that make him a bigot?
bub
>Did you read the quote in my OP from Oxford
>Senior Lexicographer Christine Lindberg?
uhh nope i must have missed that.
will that be in your monthly 'i'm so smart that everyone listens to
what i say' release on amazon?
>Is "Truthseeker" a hypocrite, or not? Are you?
hypocrite?
would that be like someone saying "if old people would just agree to
die a little quicker" while trying to find someone in the third world
to sell them body parts? ya know, the 'do as i say' thingy?
please advise
Beldin the Sorcerer
I'd guess he derived it from context.
So in that sense, yes.
You still idiot lying?
mo_charles
> >same thing...runs away. Same as he did this time. Same thing he did when I
> >proved he was an economic illiterate of interstellar magnitude. He just
> >likes to pretend he didn't say the things he did.
> >
> >He has seemingly made it his mission in life to label me as a "bigot"
> >because he doesn't like commonly used term I use, invented by the
Teabaggers
> >themselves and endorsed by Oxford lexicographers, to describe the
far-right
> >loons in that so-called "movement." Meanwhile he says nothing to the people
> >on the right doing exactly the same thing, and ignores the fact that he
does
> >exactly the same thing to describe people he perceives to be on the left.
> >
> >I think he might be angling for RGP Hypocrite of the Year Award. I know he
> >has my vote.
> >
>
> hello? took you over an hour to answer
>
> maybe he has something better to do other than sit on his ass in front
> of a computer posting things that he deems important and relevant, uhh
> like you
>
> you really are a little drama queen aint ya?
easy, bub! the man's dying of kidney failure ("genetic"), and there's no
better use of his time than micro-stakes omaha and insulting anonymous
posters on rgp.
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Robert Ladd
Forget it Bill. You'll lie and flail your arms like someone with their hair
on fire just to win a discussion. This is the end. I keep trying to have
honest discussions with you, but it's no use. You don't want to be honest.
You want to be perceived as winning.
I know I've said I won't reply to you before and then I come back to it, but
from now on you can piss up a rope. Between you pulling this childish
bullshit and Brew pulling his childish bullshit in the "Joke/Riddle" thread
I'm just about done posting on RGP. Throw in a pound of Kevin, the silly
arguments by Beldin, Poppinjay and Alim, Clave and Jerry's nose up your ass
and lips glued to your butt, Irish Mike's one tune song, Bea's simpleminded
view of the world, and DDawgster being wrong about things more often than
he's right, there are very few moments when something important is discussed
honestly and rationally.
I know. This is Usenet, get used to it.
My remaining time in life is too short to waste it here with lying,
manipulating, bullshitting clowns.
Robert Ladd
BillB
> Forget it Bill. You'll lie and flail your arms like someone with their
> hair on fire just to win a discussion. This is the end. I keep trying to
> have honest discussions with you, but it's no use. You don't want to be
> honest. You want to be perceived as winning.
I haven't lied about anything. I am sorry you can't accept the truth.
> I know I've said I won't reply to you before and then I come back to it,
> but from now on you can piss up a rope. Between you pulling this childish
> bullshit and Brew pulling his childish bullshit in the "Joke/Riddle"
> thread I'm just about done posting on RGP. Throw in a pound of Kevin, the
> silly arguments by Beldin, Poppinjay and Alim, Clave and Jerry's nose up
> your ass and lips glued to your butt, Irish Mike's one tune song, Bea's
> simpleminded view of the world, and DDawgster being wrong about things
> more often than he's right, there are very few moments when something
> important is discussed honestly and rationally.
>
> I know. This is Usenet, get used to it.
>
> My remaining time in life is too short to waste it here with lying,
> manipulating, bullshitting clowns.
If only everyone could be half the man you are, eh?
mo_charles
just ignore the cheap partisans. i enjoy your posts.
mo_charles
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Truthseeker
> On Sun, 1 May 2011 19:55:51 -0700, "BillB"<bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>> I've pointed out his hypocrisy to him several times, and he always does the
>> same thing...runs away. Same as he did this time. Same thing he did when I
>> proved he was an economic illiterate of interstellar magnitude. He just
>> likes to pretend he didn't say the things he did.
>>
>> He has seemingly made it his mission in life to label me as a "bigot"
>> because he doesn't like commonly used term I use, invented by the Teabaggers
>> themselves and endorsed by Oxford lexicographers, to describe the far-right
>> loons in that so-called "movement." Meanwhile he says nothing to the people
>> on the right doing exactly the same thing, and ignores the fact that he does
>> exactly the same thing to describe people he perceives to be on the left.
>>
>> I think he might be angling for RGP Hypocrite of the Year Award. I know he
>> has my vote.
> hello? took you over an hour to answer
>
> maybe he has something better to do other than sit on his ass in front
> of a computer posting things that he deems important and relevant, uhh
> like you
>
> you really are a little drama queen aint ya?
Hmmm, I see I really got him wound up this time.
Bill hasn't figured out yet that I choose to answer him or not depending
on what is most effective, and how much time I have on hand. I only
answer his questions when it suits me to do so. And, of course, that I
make a relatively few posts a day compared to his hundreds (I have a
life).
Maybe I better leave him alone for a while or he might have a stroke,
and I wouldn't wish that on him.
--
Truthseeker
Truthseeker
> easy, bub! the man's dying of kidney failure ("genetic"), and there's no
> better use of his time than micro-stakes omaha and insulting anonymous
> posters on rgp.
Is this true? If so, I did not know, and I apologize to him for the
"have a life" comments.
--
Truthseeker
BillB
"Truthseeker" <truth...@nospam.us> wrote in message
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> Bill hasn't figured out yet that I choose to answer him or not depending
> on what is most effective, and how much time I have on hand.
You "choose not to answer" because I have conclusively proven you are a
hypocrite. You go on and on and on about me using the term Teabaggers,
calling me a "bigot" for doing so, while you repeatedly refer to those with
whom you disagree politically as "left-wingnuts." You are the purest case
of a raging hypocrite ever to stain this newsgroup. Now, go crawl back into
your hole where you belong.
John Karl
Otherwise, I can't agree with this.
VegasJerry
Do you EVER answer a question? Jeeze, die gracefully, will you? The
whining noise is upsetting.
Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> I know. This is Usenet, get used to it.
>
> My remaining time in life is too short to waste it here with lying,
> manipulating, bullshitting clowns.
>
> Robert Ladd
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I said, DO YOU EVER ANSWER A QUESTION?
>
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Beldin the Sorcerer
>
> > My remaining time in life is too short to waste it here with lying,
> manipulating, bullshitting clowns.
Why?
Seriously. This is a poker newsgroup. When poker is discussed, it's
occasionally educational.
Any other group, most of the people there are partisan idiots, out to
forward their own agenda (or in a few cases, troll the shit out of people)
too
I don't take Alim's insanity seriously. Skilz, yes, but he really IS nuts