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Pete Kwiatkowski

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Feb 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/29/96
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Has anyone seen this done?
Is there a way to 'controll' the dice without sliding them?
Are there any books on this subject?

Thanks,


SDSNSR

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Mar 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/1/96
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In article <4h5dhp$1...@spectator.cris.com>, Pete Kwiatkowski
<Rus...@concentric.net> writes:

>Is there a way to 'controll' the dice without sliding them?
>Are there any books on this subject?
>
>

Andrea? Larry? Care to answer?

Scott S.

James Peters

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Mar 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/2/96
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That's going to be awfully hard to do because the walls of the craps
tables have those little cone shaped projections to prevent this type
of thing.

BGS Systems

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Mar 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/4/96
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In article <313974...@accessone.com>,
John Uchida <eni...@accessone.com> wrote:
>JStat44864 wrote:
>>
>> Pete Kwiatkowski asks, " Is there a way to 'controll'(sic) the
>> dice without sliding them?"
>>
>> Yes , the dice can be thrown against the back wall and be
>> controlled like a pro golfer who get's a backspin from a
>> wedge. This takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.
>>
>> For instance,if you want an eleven to show up, just set
>> the dice on ace-deuce and have it land on the base of the
>> wall. If thrown right , the dice will turn over to eleven like
>> the golfer with a backspin towards the flag.
>>
>> The casino spin doctors in this newsgroup put their heads
>> in the sand with this question hoping that no one would
>> answer this controversial question. The next replies in
>> this thread will be just damage control from these casino
>> spin doctors.
>>
>> JSTAT
>
>Quite a few years ago, a casual acquaintance of mine got involved in a
>scheme to beat the casino by trying to control the dice. The bigshots
>in the deal even went out and bought a regulation dice table to
>practice on. Turns out the bigshots were under surveillance by the FBI
>on some other matter so the whole thing was shelved before they could
>try it out when arrests were made.
>
>I'm don't know whether any advantage they got was statistically
>significant or not.
>
>After seeing some of the tricks that magicians can do, I'm willing to
>believe that someone with an extraordinary amount of skill may be able
>to throw the dice in a controlled manner that gets non-random results.
>Although not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination, there are
>backgammon players who have reputations for spin control of their rolls.
>
>John Uchida


How could it possibly be illegal to learn to through dice
a certain way?

--
Alan Yasutovich ya...@bgs.com
*I* am "statistically significant"
"Sittin' on the positive side of the bell curve"
"I can remember when having "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard".

JStat44864

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Mar 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/4/96
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Jack Hunter:

Your profanity you used in this thread is sickening. This
subject addresses the controlled dice shot, but you just
had to insult the author with obsenity. Which proves, if
you can't win the argument, just use adhominem attacks
against the writer.

When I used the C-E example you quoted, it was meant to
be as HUMOR. If you worked on a dice table, you would laugh.
I should have put a smiley face with that post. Everything else
JSTAT has posted is truthfull. Just check DejaNews.

Back to the subject of controlled dice; what is your contribution
to the poster? Jack, please keep your obsenity off the net,
women and children might be watching.

JSTAT

alton coffey

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Mar 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/5/96
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j...@pgh.nauticom.net (Jack Hunter) wrote:

>In article <4h8p4m$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,


>JStat44864 <jstat...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Pete Kwiatkowski asks, " Is there a way to 'controll'(sic) the
>>dice without sliding them?"
>>

*snip*

>>Yes , the dice can be thrown against the back wall and be
>>controlled like a pro golfer who get's a backspin from a
>>wedge. This takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.
>>

*snip*

>You claim the C&E stand for Casino Employees.

Might as well. :-) Reminds me of the stickman here who just *has* to
announce C&E bets with a loud "x on the Chicken & Egg" which is the
cue for the rest of the dealers to merrily "baaaaak, baaaaak, bak,
bak, bak" at the bettor (sorry, I don't know how to spell the noise a
chicken makes). :-)


BGS Systems

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Mar 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/6/96
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In article <4hk7j3$a...@pipe6.nyc.pipeline.com>,
Ethan Serlin <ese...@nyc.pipeline.com> wrote:
> BTW, have you been unable to decide which sig your sticking with? In a
>couple of months your sigs alone could take up the whole screen. :-)
>
>Ethan


Not really. 4 line limit, you know..... ;-(


But if I get enough encoragement I could keep going and
cut and paste stuff!!

So nice to be noticed and appreciated.....

Geoffrey W Simons

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Mar 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/6/96
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sds...@aol.com (SDSNSR) writes:

>In article <4h5dhp$1...@spectator.cris.com>, Pete Kwiatkowski
><Rus...@concentric.net> writes:

>>Is there a way to 'controll' the dice without sliding them?
>>Are there any books on this subject?
>>
>>

Why yes I have a system! It is called telekenisis. What you do is before you
roll the dice you think very hard about the number that you want to see. Then
you 'zap' the dice so that they will come up the way you want them to. It
works very well for me. You just have to be in tune with the cosmic flux.

-Geoff

Peter Secor

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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>sds...@aol.com (SDSNSR) writes:

> -Geoff

Now I know why they put all that aluminum foil in the casino ceilings.

Peter
(foldem)

John Mace

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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If you could make telekinesis work on the crap table would you tell
anyone?..Hmmm?

JamesJ5223

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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In article <4iqkmd$3...@mercury.hiline.net>, John Mace <jwm...@hiline.net>
writes:

>If you could make telekinesis work on the crap table would you tell
>anyone?..Hmmm?
>

Why not? No one would believe you anyway. You could make the dice screw
up (seven-out) just enough to keep them from banning you.

Ethan Serlin

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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On Mar 22, 1996 09:11:56 in article <Re: Controlled dice shot>,
Actually, you shouldn't even bother with craps. If you did have this
power, you would need to wait until the dice stopped rolling to see what
the number is, and then you would need to use the power to flip the dice
over. This would be very noticeable.

Instead, try the Big Six wheel. There you could slow the wheel down early,
or keep it going imperceptibly longer with no one being the wiser. The
same might be possible with roulette as well, where strange final bounces
are common.

Ethan

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