camping bread

[danw4]

howdy all, been camping across America for the last month. finally got to
set up my newsreader on the laptop to catch up on the group. i have a
question in regards to baking bread while on the road, esp. camping.

has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when i
get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

thx in advance

dan w

[Karen]

danw4 wrote the following on 6/19/2005 9:11 PM:

> has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something
> else that works camping?

I've made flatbreads in a frying pan over a grill.

Karen R.

[Dick Adams]

"danw4" <da...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@teranews...

> has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq,
> or something else that works camping?

For the most historically-correct experience, one needs a Dutch
oven, which will be buried in coals for the bread cooking.

Particularly today, the best camping requires some back packing.
Packing a proper Dutch oven can substantially improve one's
posture and self determination.

Group-google "Dutch oven" at rec.food.sourdough, limited to
1995 & earlier, for more than I suspect you'll want to know. In
particular, read what David Adams (no relation to me) has to
say. See also Carl Griffith's posts about Dutch oven at r.f.s.

--
DickA

[Gonorio Dineri]

"danw4" <da...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@teranews:

> has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or
> something else that works camping? i have had some success, and will
> post pics when i get home, however would appreciate any help for
> future trips.
>
> thx in advance
>
> dan w

If you have a fry pan or griddle (the "camper" who has neither does not
care much about bread) you can make fabulous sourdough English muffins.

[hutchndi]

"danw4" <da...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@teranews...

Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.

hutch

[Dick Adams]

"hutchndi" <hutchn...@cox.net> wrote in message news:3GNte.19531$R21.1887@lakeread06...

>
> "danw4" <da...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@teranews...

> > has anyone in the group had success in baking bread in a bbq, or something

> > else that works camping? i have had some success, and will post pics when
> > i get home, however would appreciate any help for future trips.

> Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.

Good luck on the pics. My bet is that some one who cannot find the
caps key is not going to be able to find the buttons on a camera.

Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
an appropriate converter.

--
Dicky

[Gonorio Dineri]

"Dick Adams" <bad....@nonexist.com> wrote in
news:vmUte.344006$cg1.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
> Good luck on the pics. My bet is that some one who cannot find the
> caps key is not going to be able to find the buttons on a camera.
>
> Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
> an appropriate converter.
>
> --
> Dicky
>
>

Advanced Auto Parts has a sale on 400 Watt converters for $29. Lukily,
there is no keyboard on it.

[Dusty Bleher]

Hello Dan & all;

"danw4" <da...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1119229877.32595b99ea19ffc8350a6a6e15ae2a48@teranews...

I frequently bake on our various "camping" trips (if one can call it that
living in a trailer). I've used everything from flat pans like Ken had
mentioned, to BBQ's, to doing SD pizza on top of a grill. However, my best
results came from taking a few days to build a mud & stone "oven" in the
pioneer style (if local materials are available and such activity is
permitted).

Although temperature control is a bit 'iffy', it doesn't take long to get
the hang of it (esp. when one takes along an oven thermometer...(:-o)!).
Trust me, there's nothing that'll draw a crowd faster than the smell of
fresh SD bread or cinnamon rolls baking...

Later all,
Dusty
San Jose

[Rich McCormack]

For camp baking, a Dutch oven is one way to go. An 8 inch is suitable
for one person and is small and fairly light. A 10 inch is suitable
for two people, but obviously is a little larger and heavier. Neither
would be suitable for backpacking. Another reply mentioned burying
the oven in coals. That's not really necessary, all that's needed is
the right amount of coals arranged evenly under the oven and on the
lid. Here's a link to a page in my personal collection of web pages
with photos of a Dutch oven being used for camp cooking...

http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/dutch_oven

It's a work in progress, and currently there's only photos of biscuit
and cornbread making. Both are really easy. Beer Bread is also easy
to make. Baking real loaf bread in a Dutch oven is a little more
challenging, but it can be done.

Rich

[hutchndi]

Then there is this ....

http://home.gwi.net/~nas/bread/recipes/Molunkan_Bread.htm

[gw]

I saw someone on the food network grill some flatbread the other day, and
pizza yesterday, no foil, or anything, just a fairly close grill (about an
inch).
go figure.

Look for "pan de campo" too, it works up pretty well.
gw

[doughwizard]

You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan
and a good weber kettle. Light the coals and let them ash over. Spread
them out and cook a hamburger or steak. Then, pile them up on both
sides of the kettle (like you would for "indirect" cooking). Then,
place your bread in the middle, between the two coal piles. It'll give
ya about 375 and will bake your bread just fine...I do it all the time.

[Rich McCormack]

doughwizard wrote:
> You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan
> and a good weber kettle.

A Smokey Joe, maybe...but I think it'd be pretty tough stuffing
a Weber Kettle into a backpack. :-)

[snddsn]

I use a little device called the Bakepacker (www.bakepacker.com). It is
designed to fit in a standard cooking pot that is used with a single
burner camp stove. I have baked with it in the Boundary Waters in MN,
the coast of Nova Scotia, and all over the NE US when kayaking. I have
made everything from brownies (from scratch) to yeast dinner rolls with
it over the years. This year I will attempt sourdough using some dried
starter I am taking with me. Not quite the dutch oven I use when
camping under circumstances where weight isn't a concern but works quite
well.

Best Regards,
Mary

[dan w]

well we finally go back from our 9,000 mile camping trip. thanks for
all the suggestions, such as the following:

>I've made flatbreads in a frying pan over a grill.
>Karen R.

>For the most historically-correct experience, one needs a Dutch

>oven, which will be buried in coals for the bread cooking.

>DickA

>If you have a fry pan or griddle (the "camper" who has neither does not
>care much about bread) you can make fabulous sourdough English muffins.

>Gonorio Dineri

>Been wondering about the grill myself. Looking forward to your pics.

>hutch

>Hey, maybe there is a bread machine operable from a car battery, or
>an appropriate converter.

>DickA

>I frequently bake on our various "camping" trips (if one can call it
>that living in a trailer). I've used everything from flat pans like
>Ken had mentioned, to BBQ's, to doing SD pizza on top of a grill.
>However, my best results came from taking a few days to build a mud &
>stone "oven" in the pioneer style (if local materials are available
and >such activity is permitted).

>Dusty
>San Jose

>You don't need a mud oven or a dutch oven. All you need is a loaf pan

>and a good weber kettle. Light the coals and let them ash over. Spread
>them out and cook a hamburger or steak.

>doughwizard

in response to all these, here is what i did. first my idea of camping
is more like "bring everything but the kitchen sink camping". we drag a
5'X 8' Pace trailer with tents, chairs, kitchen supplies, yada, yada,
yada... so equipment is not so much an issue, (yet probably should be).

anyway i did bring my favorite wf starter, and kept it in my cooler. i
made my dough at camp temp☺, using the go with the flow technique. here
is a link to the pics:
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1397234

in my webber gas bbq i have a cast iron flat griddle that i sat the doug
on to bake. as you can see the biggest prob was getting too dark on the
bottom. unfortunately, no way with this bbq to do the "indirect heat
method", so i had to flip bread on it's top to cook more evenly toward
the end of the cook time. the bread came out very good most of the time.

one thing i did discover was the possible use of the electric roaster
oven. while visiting in-laws i baked every day at their home, and
because it was very hot and humid, they kicked me out of the house to
bake. mom-out-law had a GE roaster oven like the one in the pictures
above. the bread came out very good. nice crust, good oven spring, and
temp control. got me to thinking during the summer months, might be a
good alternative to heating up the house.

anyone else have experience using a oven roaster to bake bread? best
brand, etc.?

thx for all the help

happy baking

Dan w

[Dave Bell]

dan w wrote:

> anyway i did bring my favorite wf starter, and kept it in my cooler. i
> made my dough at camp temp☺, using the go with the flow technique. here
> is a link to the pics:
> http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1397234
>

> one thing i did discover was the possible use of the electric roaster
> oven. while visiting in-laws i baked every day at their home, and
> because it was very hot and humid, they kicked me out of the house to
> bake. mom-out-law had a GE roaster oven like the one in the pictures
> above. the bread came out very good. nice crust, good oven spring, and
> temp control. got me to thinking during the summer months, might be a
> good alternative to heating up the house.

> happy baking
>
> Dan w

Man, that looks like pretty good "cmp bread"! I'd be proud to bake it
up, anywhere, any time...

I have one of those roaster ovens - never thought of using it to bake
bread in. Sounds like it's worth a go. Thanks!

Dave

[td]

Real nice!!!!

Why do you have foil at each end of the weber?

In article <kW9Ce.3749$Rv7...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, Dave Bell
<db...@TheSPAMFREEBells.net> wrote:

> dan w wrote:
>
> > anyway i did bring my favorite wf starter, and kept it in my cooler. i

> > made my dough at camp tempíÚÜ, using the go with the flow technique. here

[dan w]

td wrote:
> Real nice!!!!
>
> Why do you have foil at each end of the weber?
>
>

this particular bbq has rather large draft areas on each size. in the
wind it would cause the temp to fluctuate too much, so i improvised by
stacking aluminum foil until it sealed the side "vents". seemed to work
very well.

Dan w

[td]

Interesting....That is the weberQ, isn't it? I'm going to make an
attempt at baking the bread on a BBQ today...not the webberQ - that's
in the motor home.

Thanks

[dan w]

td wrote:

> Interesting....That is the weberQ, isn't it? I'm going to make an
> attempt at baking the bread on a BBQ today...not the webberQ - that's
> in the motor home.

yes- the webber is the "Q" style, the larger one of the two i have seen.

Dan w