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A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
table.

Yes, the table is (technically) 500+ years old. It has been authenticated
to have come from an old English 'manor' and was made approx 200 years ago.
The timber the table is made of has been examined, and it has been deemed
by some tree expert dude that the timber was approx 300+ years old when it
was cut down to make the table.

I have long harboured an intense desire to somehow come into possession of
the table.... but short of wiping out my friend, his family, and all his
families offspring...... there's not much chance. And the bloody thing is
*WAY* too heavy to stage a 'home invasion' and carry it off....... which
would be way to completely obvious!! It's about 10' long.... I think I have
a couple of pics of it somewhere......

ahhhhh yes, here they are...........


http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/PeterL_2007/ANZAC%20Day%202009/


So yes, we are having a 500th birthday party....... and all presents are to
be made of ..... you guessed it..... wood!!


BTW, the grandfather clock in the picture set is a paltry 200+ years old.

So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will complement
the table....... because that's where I want *our* present to reside :-)

The food........ well, his wife and I get on like a house on fire, as she
is the same as me. She does *all* the cooking...... no-one brings *any*
food to the party whatsoever.


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Tasmania
Australia

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On Mar 6, 6:54 am, "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane>
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> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
> table.
>

A glass vial containing termites

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spamtrap1888 <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in news:163107a3-62a3-4f54-
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They'd go hungry. It didn't get to be 500 by being 'termite friendly'.



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> A friend...

Liar!

sf

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<Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:

> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
> table.
>
> Yes, the table is (technically) 500+ years old. It has been authenticated
> to have come from an old English 'manor' and was made approx 200 years ago.
> The timber the table is made of has been examined, and it has been deemed
> by some tree expert dude that the timber was approx 300+ years old when it
> was cut down to make the table.

What a fun excuse to have a few friends over!

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David Dyer-Bennet

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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
> table.

That sounds like a truly excellent excuse for a party!

> Yes, the table is (technically) 500+ years old. It has been authenticated
> to have come from an old English 'manor' and was made approx 200 years ago.
> The timber the table is made of has been examined, and it has been deemed
> by some tree expert dude that the timber was approx 300+ years old when it
> was cut down to make the table.
>
> I have long harboured an intense desire to somehow come into possession of
> the table.... but short of wiping out my friend, his family, and all his
> families offspring...... there's not much chance. And the bloody thing is
> *WAY* too heavy to stage a 'home invasion' and carry it off....... which
> would be way to completely obvious!! It's about 10' long.... I think I have
> a couple of pics of it somewhere......

I once had a chance at a table about that size, and possibly heavier;
though not as cool. It had a plate-glass top, and the base was welded
up from old bank window bars. But it was down in Dubuque Iowa, and I'm
in Minneapolis Minnesota, and the only possible way to move it involved
renting a truck, driving both ways (meaning about 10 hours). And
loading and unloading were still going to be exciting. So I didn't.
That's very impressive indeed.

> So yes, we are having a 500th birthday party....... and all presents are to
> be made of ..... you guessed it..... wood!!
>
>
> BTW, the grandfather clock in the picture set is a paltry 200+ years old.

Still, not bad, for a clock.

> So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will complement
> the table....... because that's where I want *our* present to reside :-)

Salad bowl? With serving implements, hand-carved.

> The food........ well, his wife and I get on like a house on fire, as she
> is the same as me. She does *all* the cooking...... no-one brings *any*
> food to the party whatsoever.

That's one of the interesting divides. For some kinds of parties I
really don't want people messing me up by bringing random stuff. For
other kinds of gatherings, though, a little help is appreciated.
Anything but off-brand soda :-) .
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sf

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On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:37:12 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net>
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> > So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will complement
> > the table....... because that's where I want *our* present to reside :-)
>
> Salad bowl? With serving implements, hand-carved.

My first thought was the table needed a rug underneath it (oriental,
of course) because it doesn't look good sitting on the floor like
that... too much wood, no contrast. Change the fabric on those chairs
too.

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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That it is ....... not many people get a chance to say they've been to a
500yo's birthday party.

*Although*, this will be the second 500th+ I've been to :-)
The first was for the township of Huissen in the Netherlands.

Back then (1991?) I was a member of the Bavaria Bier Parachute Display
Team. It was the townships birthday, and we were hired to do a jump
into/over the town. The LZ was a postage stamp sized piece of ground
bordered by a major freeway on two sides, a swamp and a large lake on the
others!!

I flew down the Langestraat at about 100' and caused a bit of a stir
amongst all the coffee/beer drinkers at all outside cafes down below when I
yelled out for someone to bring me a beer, zipped around the library at the
end of the street/mall, zoomed across the freeway and did a hook turn into
the LZ.

*That* was a hoot!! And within about a minute of landing, I had half a
dozen beers (in big steins) being handed to me :-)

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Tasmania
Australia
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George M. Middius

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sqwishy wrote:

>Sharp keys, so you can carve your 7 previous names in the table and
>claim, "It wasn't ME!"

LOL. Good one, sqwish.


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Andy <a@b.c> wrote in news:XnsA00E932...@216.196.97.131:

> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:
>
>> So yes, we are having a 500th birthday party....... and all presents
>> are to be made of ..... you guessed it..... wood!!
>
>
> I'd buy an antique wood and glass hourglass that best matches the beauty
> and boldness of the table.
>
> They're beautiful to watch or just look at and just beg to be touched or
> restarted.
>
> Or a Chinese wooden abacus that could easily be older than the table.
>
> Or both!
>
> Andy
>



The hourglass idea sounds great!! Thanks.


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George M. Middius <glan...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Two strikes, you're out.

Bye, troll.

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote in
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I'll let them know :-)

We had an oriental rug under our dining table, same sorta floors as my
mates place. Our table is only about 110yo though.



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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
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>
> I once had a chance at a table about that size, and possibly heavier;
> though not as cool. It had a plate-glass top, and the base was welded
> up from old bank window bars. But it was down in Dubuque Iowa, and
> I'm in Minneapolis Minnesota, and the only possible way to move it
> involved renting a truck, driving both ways (meaning about 10 hours).
> And loading and unloading were still going to be exciting. So I
> didn't.


Bummer. Old bank windows base, and a *huge* glass top would have been
quite a center piece to any dining room.

I had a table custom made for me back in 2000..... made out of Brazilian
Mahogany, 10&1/2' long and 4' wide. The top was made from just 3 slabs
of timber, and the whole thing was held together by 2 screws.
The guy who made it was my best friends father, and he was an absolute
artisan!!

We sat and talked for hours on end about design structure, dimensions
etc.... he drew up some plans and went to work.
At the end of it, all he wanted was the cost of the timber ($1,000), and
it was a frikken masterpiece!! Underneath the table was polished to the
same sheen as the top!!

I'd had the table for awhile and did one move with it, and was freaking
out that it would get damaged. Thankfully it didn't, and the removalist
almost quit before the move finished!! :-)
When I moved I actually had to look for a house that would 'fit' the
table.
Anyways, after about 12 months, I was discussing with my best mate about
getting a brass plaque made up with her dad's name on it,date of
manufacture etc, and getting him to use an engraving tool to sign his
name on the plaque, when he got really sick and ended up in hospital.
He died within about 2 weeks.
I've kicked myself since about not getting some more furniture done by
him, and not getting the plaque put on when we first discussed it.

Then I made the decision that I was going to 'emigrate' to Tasmania, and
knew that I'd be heart broken if the table was in any way damaged during
transit..... so I made the decision to sell it.

I advertised it, and got 3 solid offers within a couple of days after
the potential buyers had come to view it. One for $5.75k, one for $6.5K
and another for $7.5k.

Before taking the highest offer, I spoke to my best mate and her
family.... and then sold it back to them for what I paid for it.

I'm still pissed off with myself about the plaque idea, but happy that
the table is with people who knew the builder, knew what he did, and
that will love and cherish it as a family heirloom (which is basically
what I wanted it for).

The other buyers just wanted a huge you-beaut beautiful lookin' table.



>
>> So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will
>> complement the table....... because that's where I want *our* present
>> to reside :-)
>
> Salad bowl? With serving implements, hand-carved.


I think my mates wife would already have something like that :-)
But thanks for the suggestion.


>
>> The food........ well, his wife and I get on like a house on fire, as
>> she is the same as me. She does *all* the cooking...... no-one brings
>> *any* food to the party whatsoever.
>
> That's one of the interesting divides. For some kinds of parties I
> really don't want people messing me up by bringing random stuff. For
> other kinds of gatherings, though, a little help is appreciated.
> Anything but off-brand soda :-) .


My parties have strict rules...... bring no food, and if you drink
anything other than red wine or bubbly, you have to bring your own
drinks :-)



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Tasmania
Australia
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George M. Middius

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sqwishy wrote:

>>>>Sharp keys, so you can carve your 7 previous names in the table and
>>>>claim, "It wasn't ME!"
>>>
>>> LOL. Good one, sqwish.
>>
>> Two strikes, you're out.
>>
>> Bye, troll.
>
>Having trouble making friends, are ya Alfie?

Wait a minute -- you said *I* am Alfie. Are you getting confused?

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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
> news:ylfkipih...@dd-b.net:
>
>
>>
>> I once had a chance at a table about that size, and possibly heavier;
>> though not as cool. It had a plate-glass top, and the base was welded
>> up from old bank window bars. But it was down in Dubuque Iowa, and
>> I'm in Minneapolis Minnesota, and the only possible way to move it
>> involved renting a truck, driving both ways (meaning about 10 hours).
>> And loading and unloading were still going to be exciting. So I
>> didn't.
>
>
> Bummer. Old bank windows base, and a *huge* glass top would have been
> quite a center piece to any dining room.
>
> I had a table custom made for me back in 2000..... made out of Brazilian
> Mahogany, 10&1/2' long and 4' wide. The top was made from just 3 slabs
> of timber, and the whole thing was held together by 2 screws.
> The guy who made it was my best friends father, and he was an absolute
> artisan!!

That sounds really fantastic.

> We sat and talked for hours on end about design structure, dimensions
> etc.... he drew up some plans and went to work.
> At the end of it, all he wanted was the cost of the timber ($1,000), and
> it was a frikken masterpiece!! Underneath the table was polished to the
> same sheen as the top!!

I'm not much of a woodworker in general; but doing finishes is one of my
extra special weaknesses. I simply don't have the patience to do a good
job on finishes.

> I'd had the table for awhile and did one move with it, and was freaking
> out that it would get damaged. Thankfully it didn't, and the removalist
> almost quit before the move finished!! :-)
> When I moved I actually had to look for a house that would 'fit' the
> table.

If I had a table like that, I'd sure pick a house it went well with!

> Anyways, after about 12 months, I was discussing with my best mate about
> getting a brass plaque made up with her dad's name on it,date of
> manufacture etc, and getting him to use an engraving tool to sign his
> name on the plaque, when he got really sick and ended up in hospital.
> He died within about 2 weeks.
> I've kicked myself since about not getting some more furniture done by
> him, and not getting the plaque put on when we first discussed it.

That's too bad. You might still do the plaque...oh, reading ahead I see
that's irrelevant.

> Then I made the decision that I was going to 'emigrate' to Tasmania, and
> knew that I'd be heart broken if the table was in any way damaged during
> transit..... so I made the decision to sell it.

Interesting. It sure would have cost the Earth to ship anywhere far,
too.

> I advertised it, and got 3 solid offers within a couple of days after
> the potential buyers had come to view it. One for $5.75k, one for $6.5K
> and another for $7.5k.

Those offers don't seem unreasonble, not that I'm used to dealing with
furniture at that level.

> Before taking the highest offer, I spoke to my best mate and her
> family.... and then sold it back to them for what I paid for it.

Oh, nice. Having it with that family would be the only thing to make me
satisfied giving it up, I suspect.

> I'm still pissed off with myself about the plaque idea, but happy that
> the table is with people who knew the builder, knew what he did, and
> that will love and cherish it as a family heirloom (which is basically
> what I wanted it for).
>
> The other buyers just wanted a huge you-beaut beautiful lookin' table.

Might have become a family heirloom for them too -- but without the
connection you or the original family has, so this is better.

>>> So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will
>>> complement the table....... because that's where I want *our* present
>>> to reside :-)
>>
>> Salad bowl? With serving implements, hand-carved.
>
>
> I think my mates wife would already have something like that :-)
> But thanks for the suggestion.

Yeah, kind of basic, I agree.

>>> The food........ well, his wife and I get on like a house on fire, as
>>> she is the same as me. She does *all* the cooking...... no-one brings
>>> *any* food to the party whatsoever.
>>
>> That's one of the interesting divides. For some kinds of parties I
>> really don't want people messing me up by bringing random stuff. For
>> other kinds of gatherings, though, a little help is appreciated.
>> Anything but off-brand soda :-) .
>
> My parties have strict rules...... bring no food, and if you drink
> anything other than red wine or bubbly, you have to bring your own
> drinks :-)

It really helps to tell people what you want; easier for the guests to
get it right.

George M. Middius

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sqwishy backpedals.

>Actually, Alfie is "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" (AKA James Post), but you
>can be "Alfie Too". Both of you use the same old version of Agent
>newsreader and are both from Ft Myers, just in different states.

Ft Myers? Ain't that in Tay-ex-us?


Krypsis

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Now he's a parachutist and speaks Dutch! What further bullshit does he
have in store for us?

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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
Some nice pics in there........ *loooooove* 'Amacker'..... and naked chicks
with laptops, and guns, and swords ;-)

Don't often like redheads, but Tiffany..... rrrrrrrrrroooowwwwww!!


BTW, we're having World's Greatest Shave/Shave for a Cure Day' here
soon....... wanna join in?? ;-)

http://www.worldsgreatestshave.com/

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Australia

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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
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I do.... if you drink red wine and/or bubbles, you don't have to bring
drinks. We have a large collection of both.

Funny how when people hear that, they all of a sudden become red
wine/bubbles connoisseurs :-)

Once I get my still up and running into production mode, and about 5 months
after that, I'll have a large collection of spirit drinks as well.

I've gone off the beer again, so I don't have any of that.


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Australia

Nunya Bidnits

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I'm back on the laptop <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:
> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his
> dining table.

This "friend" who has conned you into bringing over presents for his table
deserves an award for creativity. And a medal as well, for presumably
keeping a straight face about it. Well done!

MartyB


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JNW

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Are you sure you don't have three stomachs? Because you sure
do pump out quite a bit of bullshit, mate. I know you
and I know you're just making half the stuff up you post
here. It disappoints me which is why I avoid you all
anymore. It's not hard finding you here when I wonder
sometimes what became of you.

Ed Pawlowski

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On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 14:54:02 +0000 (UTC), "I'm back on the laptop"
<Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:

>A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
>table.
>

>
It is getting a bit old and worn looking. Why not surprise the owner
by sanding it down and putting a fresh coat of paint on it? Pick a
nice bright color!

Jean B.

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I'm back on the laptop wrote:
> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his dining
> table.
>
> Yes, the table is (technically) 500+ years old. It has been authenticated
> to have come from an old English 'manor' and was made approx 200 years ago.
> The timber the table is made of has been examined, and it has been deemed
> by some tree expert dude that the timber was approx 300+ years old when it
> was cut down to make the table.
>
> I have long harboured an intense desire to somehow come into possession of
> the table.... but short of wiping out my friend, his family, and all his
> families offspring...... there's not much chance. And the bloody thing is
> *WAY* too heavy to stage a 'home invasion' and carry it off....... which
> would be way to completely obvious!! It's about 10' long.... I think I have
> a couple of pics of it somewhere......
>
> ahhhhh yes, here they are...........
>
>
> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa216/PeterL_2007/ANZAC%20Day%202009/
>
>
> So yes, we are having a 500th birthday party....... and all presents are to
> be made of ..... you guessed it..... wood!!
>
>
> BTW, the grandfather clock in the picture set is a paltry 200+ years old.
>
> So now I'm trying to think of something made of wood that will complement
> the table....... because that's where I want *our* present to reside :-)
>
> The food........ well, his wife and I get on like a house on fire, as she
> is the same as me. She does *all* the cooking...... no-one brings *any*
> food to the party whatsoever.
>
>
You need to do that home invasion and then ship the table to ME!
Nice! I was going to say those end legs were kind-of impractical,
so you could just send me the top, but they do go together so nicely.

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Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote in
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LOL!!

That'd go down like a fart in a spacesuit!!



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Australia

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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in news:9ro4uh...@mid.individual.net:

> I'm back on the laptop wrote:

>> I have long harboured an intense desire to somehow come into
>> possession of the table.... but short of wiping out my friend, his
>> family, and all his families offspring...... there's not much chance.
>> And the bloody thing is *WAY* too heavy to stage a 'home invasion'
>> and carry it off....... which would be way to completely obvious!!
>> It's about 10' long.... I think I have a couple of pics of it
>> somewhere......

>>
>>
> You need to do that home invasion and then ship the table to ME!


:-)

Postage would be a killer :-)



> Nice! I was going to say those end legs were kind-of impractical,
> so you could just send me the top, but they do go together so nicely.
>


I s'pose they were all the rage 200 odd years ago ;-)


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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>
>> Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
>> Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
>
>
>
> Some nice pics in there........ *loooooove* 'Amacker'..... and naked chicks
> with laptops, and guns, and swords ;-)
>
> Don't often like redheads, but Tiffany..... rrrrrrrrrroooowwwwww!!

Thanks. Sometimes I get to borrow models from a professional friend,
which extends my portfolio some :-) .


> BTW, we're having World's Greatest Shave/Shave for a Cure Day' here
> soon....... wanna join in?? ;-)
>
> http://www.worldsgreatestshave.com/

Oh...probably not. I got this hairy by having an aversion to spending
time and effort on it.
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David Dyer-Bennet

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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>
>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>
> .
>>>
>>> My parties have strict rules...... bring no food, and if you drink
>>> anything other than red wine or bubbly, you have to bring your own
>>> drinks :-)
>>
>> It really helps to tell people what you want; easier for the guests to
>> get it right.
>
>
> I do.... if you drink red wine and/or bubbles, you don't have to bring
> drinks. We have a large collection of both.

Yes, I was saying "you're doing it right", not criticizing. Sorry if it
came out confusing!

> Funny how when people hear that, they all of a sudden become red
> wine/bubbles connoisseurs :-)

I'm fond of them myself -- but like non-alcoholic things for most of my
drinking, if we're not where I'm going to sleep that night.

> Once I get my still up and running into production mode, and about 5 months
> after that, I'll have a large collection of spirit drinks as well.

Now that's a serious level of effort/knowledge. Good luck with it!
(Don't blow yourself up; I dunno how easy/hard that is.)

> I've gone off the beer again, so I don't have any of that.

I've never been a big beer fan. I'm a cider fan, and periodically
intend to try making my own, but never quite get to it.

Nunya Bidnits

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I'm back on the laptop <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> wrote:
> A friend of mine is going to hold a 500th birthday party for his
> dining table.
>
> Yes, the table is (technically) 500+ years old. It has been
> authenticated to have come from an old English 'manor' and was made
> approx 200 years ago. The timber the table is made of has been
> examined, and it has been deemed by some tree expert dude that the
> timber was approx 300+ years old when it was cut down to make the
> table.

Is everything made of wood actually the age of the tree it came from, not
the age of the object? What is the relative age of each part of the table,
since only a very small part of the 300 year old wood actually existed for
that entire period? Some other small part of it could be as young as a day
old when harvested, the most recent growth. So how old is something if it is
made of something that could be old, and not so old, and anywhere in
between? You don't know? Then how do you know that right now is the right
time to say it is 500 years old if you don't know how to figure out how old
it is and and what parts are not so old, and how much not so old those parts
are, or are not?

But hey, it might be a 200 year old table. I didn't look, but probably a
raggedy old bathroom door off a 200 year old tuna boat, nailed to a
skunk-hole stump.

Only an idiot buys presents for a beat up old hunk of wood.


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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
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> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>
>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>>
>>> Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
>>> Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
>>
>>
>>
>> Some nice pics in there........ *loooooove* 'Amacker'..... and naked
>> chicks with laptops, and guns, and swords ;-)
>>
>> Don't often like redheads, but Tiffany..... rrrrrrrrrroooowwwwww!!
>
> Thanks. Sometimes I get to borrow models from a professional friend,
> which extends my portfolio some :-) .


Who is 'Amacker'??? Utterly gorgeous!!


>
>
>> BTW, we're having World's Greatest Shave/Shave for a Cure Day' here
>> soon....... wanna join in?? ;-)
>>
>> http://www.worldsgreatestshave.com/
>
> Oh...probably not. I got this hairy by having an aversion to spending
> time and effort on it.


LOL!! It wouldn't take long to get you back to scratch ;-)


--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

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Mar 8, 2012, 9:14:07 AM3/8/12
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
news:ylfkobs8...@dd-b.net:

> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>
>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>>
>>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>>
>> .
>>>>
>>>> My parties have strict rules...... bring no food, and if you drink
>>>> anything other than red wine or bubbly, you have to bring your own
>>>> drinks :-)
>>>
>>> It really helps to tell people what you want; easier for the guests
>>> to get it right.
>>
>>
>> I do.... if you drink red wine and/or bubbles, you don't have to
>> bring drinks. We have a large collection of both.
>
> Yes, I was saying "you're doing it right", not criticizing. Sorry if
> it came out confusing!



No worries, thanks :-)



>
>> Funny how when people hear that, they all of a sudden become red
>> wine/bubbles connoisseurs :-)
>
> I'm fond of them myself -- but like non-alcoholic things for most of
> my drinking, if we're not where I'm going to sleep that night.


I'm pretty lucky I have an SO who doesn't like to drink too much.
Especiaslly if we are 'out and about'. Sometimes I think she doesn't
so's she can keep an eye on me ;-)



>
>> Once I get my still up and running into production mode, and about 5
>> months after that, I'll have a large collection of spirit drinks as
>> well.
>
> Now that's a serious level of effort/knowledge. Good luck with it!
> (Don't blow yourself up; I dunno how easy/hard that is.)


No naked flames or anything like that. It's just time consuming....
because I like to make a good quality product.



>
>> I've gone off the beer again, so I don't have any of that.
>
> I've never been a big beer fan. I'm a cider fan, and periodically
> intend to try making my own, but never quite get to it.


I was in Tasmania recently and tried some pear cider. Quite nice!!



--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

David Dyer-Bennet

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Mar 8, 2012, 12:46:44 PM3/8/12
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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
> news:ylfkobs8...@dd-b.net:
>
>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>
>>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>>> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>>>
>>>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>>>
>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> My parties have strict rules...... bring no food, and if you drink
>>>>> anything other than red wine or bubbly, you have to bring your own
>>>>> drinks :-)
>>>>
>>>> It really helps to tell people what you want; easier for the guests
>>>> to get it right.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do.... if you drink red wine and/or bubbles, you don't have to
>>> bring drinks. We have a large collection of both.
>>
>> Yes, I was saying "you're doing it right", not criticizing. Sorry if
>> it came out confusing!
>
>
>
> No worries, thanks :-)

Good!

>>> Funny how when people hear that, they all of a sudden become red
>>> wine/bubbles connoisseurs :-)
>>
>> I'm fond of them myself -- but like non-alcoholic things for most of
>> my drinking, if we're not where I'm going to sleep that night.
>
>
> I'm pretty lucky I have an SO who doesn't like to drink too much.
> Especiaslly if we are 'out and about'. Sometimes I think she doesn't
> so's she can keep an eye on me ;-)

I've had social groups where somebody was especially popular for
restaurant expeditions because they could drive and didn't like to
drink.

>>> Once I get my still up and running into production mode, and about 5
>>> months after that, I'll have a large collection of spirit drinks as
>>> well.
>>
>> Now that's a serious level of effort/knowledge. Good luck with it!
>> (Don't blow yourself up; I dunno how easy/hard that is.)
>
>
> No naked flames or anything like that. It's just time consuming....
> because I like to make a good quality product.

I don't know distilling (beyond a tiny bit of chem lab), but I'm sure
it's much more work to make a good product than just to not hurt
yourself, yes!

(Distilling, or doing anyting to concentrate the alcohol produced by
fermentation, is illegal without expensive commercial licensing where I
live, so I haven't had much chance to interact with people who do it.
Not a law I particularly approve of.)

>>> I've gone off the beer again, so I don't have any of that.
>>
>> I've never been a big beer fan. I'm a cider fan, and periodically
>> intend to try making my own, but never quite get to it.
>
> I was in Tasmania recently and tried some pear cider. Quite nice!!

There are a couple of pear ciders among my favorites. I had the good
fortune to stumble on the place that made the Ace I like so much when
visiting California a few years back; unfortunately, what that taught me
is it tastes much better out of their casks than when bottled and
shipped to Minnesota. (Doesn't actually make the bottles arriving here
any less good, though.)

David Dyer-Bennet

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Mar 8, 2012, 12:49:28 PM3/8/12
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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
> news:ylfksjhk...@dd-b.net:
>
>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>
>>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>>> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>>>
>>>> Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
>>>> Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some nice pics in there........ *loooooove* 'Amacker'..... and naked
>>> chicks with laptops, and guns, and swords ;-)
>>>
>>> Don't often like redheads, but Tiffany..... rrrrrrrrrroooowwwwww!!
>>
>> Thanks. Sometimes I get to borrow models from a professional friend,
>> which extends my portfolio some :-) .
>
> Who is 'Amacker'??? Utterly gorgeous!!

Thanks. Not giving out any more model info than what they said they
wanted to be identified by, sorry.

>
>>
>>
>>> BTW, we're having World's Greatest Shave/Shave for a Cure Day' here
>>> soon....... wanna join in?? ;-)
>>>
>>> http://www.worldsgreatestshave.com/
>>
>> Oh...probably not. I got this hairy by having an aversion to spending
>> time and effort on it.
>
> LOL!! It wouldn't take long to get you back to scratch ;-)

Oh, probably not, no. I do trim the beard every now and then. Most
years, even.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, dd...@dd-b.net; http://dd-b.net/
Dragaera: http://dragaera.info

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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in news:ylfk62ef...@dd-b.net:

> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>

>
> I've had social groups where somebody was especially popular for
> restaurant expeditions because they could drive and didn't like to
> drink.




They are *always* good people to know ;-)



>
>>>> Once I get my still up and running into production mode, and about 5
>>>> months after that, I'll have a large collection of spirit drinks as
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> Now that's a serious level of effort/knowledge. Good luck with it!
>>> (Don't blow yourself up; I dunno how easy/hard that is.)
>>
>>
>> No naked flames or anything like that. It's just time consuming....
>> because I like to make a good quality product.
>
> I don't know distilling (beyond a tiny bit of chem lab), but I'm sure
> it's much more work to make a good product than just to not hurt
> yourself, yes!
>
> (Distilling, or doing anyting to concentrate the alcohol produced by
> fermentation, is illegal without expensive commercial licensing where I
> live, so I haven't had much chance to interact with people who do it.
> Not a law I particularly approve of.)



My still is legally classed as a 'water distiller'.

http://www.stillspirits.com/

And so long as I only make 'personal' quantities of spirit, I'm fine. It's
when people start using 8-10 stills that they attract attention......
usually from the 'opposition' brewers, who then do a bastard act and
contact the authorities.

I've just got one 25lt still and two fermenters, but when I start
distilling, it goes 18/7. People come from far and wide to 'sample' my
wares, and make donations to the ********* ************** retirement fund
;-)




>>
>> I was in Tasmania recently and tried some pear cider. Quite nice!!
>
> There are a couple of pear ciders among my favorites. I had the good
> fortune to stumble on the place that made the Ace I like so much when
> visiting California a few years back; unfortunately, what that taught me
> is it tastes much better out of their casks than when bottled and
> shipped to Minnesota. (Doesn't actually make the bottles arriving here
> any less good, though.)


I have pear orchards all round my new house...... I might have to start
learning how to make the pear cider :-)



--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

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Mar 8, 2012, 3:25:27 PM3/8/12
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in news:ylfkwr6v...@dd-b.net:

> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>
>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>> news:ylfksjhk...@dd-b.net:
>>
>>> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>>>
>>>> David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
>>>> news:ylfkwr6x...@dd-b.net:
>>>>
>>>>> Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
>>>>> Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some nice pics in there........ *loooooove* 'Amacker'..... and naked
>>>> chicks with laptops, and guns, and swords ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Don't often like redheads, but Tiffany..... rrrrrrrrrroooowwwwww!!
>>>
>>> Thanks. Sometimes I get to borrow models from a professional friend,
>>> which extends my portfolio some :-) .
>>
>> Who is 'Amacker'??? Utterly gorgeous!!
>
> Thanks. Not giving out any more model info than what they said they
> wanted to be identified by, sorry.
>


Don't want much info........ just her relationship status, phone number,
age, what she likes to eat/drink.......... ;-P


But if she's a smoker..... tell her I'm sorry, but I don't want to meet
her.



:-)

--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

Jerry Avins

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Mar 8, 2012, 5:09:25 PM3/8/12
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On 3/8/2012 12:46 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

...

> (Distilling, or doing anyting to concentrate the alcohol produced by
> fermentation, is illegal without expensive commercial licensing where I
> live, so I haven't had much chance to interact with people who do it.
> Not a law I particularly approve of.)

In New York, when I lived there, only the Federal limit applied: ten
gallons of whatever you make, distilled or not before licensing was
required. I've lived in Jew Jersey for 50 years, but I never knew the
law here.

...

Jerry
--
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David Dyer-Bennet

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Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:

> On 3/8/2012 12:46 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> (Distilling, or doing anyting to concentrate the alcohol produced by
>> fermentation, is illegal without expensive commercial licensing where I
>> live, so I haven't had much chance to interact with people who do it.
>> Not a law I particularly approve of.)
>
> In New York, when I lived there, only the Federal limit applied: ten
> gallons of whatever you make, distilled or not before licensing was
> required. I've lived in Jew Jersey for 50 years, but I never knew the
> law here.

The General Alcohol FAQ <http://ttb.gov/faqs/genalcohol.shtml> says:

You cannot produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying
taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled
spirits plant. There are numerous requirements that must be met
that make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage
use. Some of these requirements are paying excise tax, filing an
extensive application, filing a bond, providing adequate equipment
to measure spirits, providing suitable tanks and pipelines,
providing a separate building (other than a dwelling) and
maintaining detailed records, and filing reports.

Since that's a .gov site, I believe this describes current US law. So
these days you can't distill legally at home without meeting the full
commercial rules, meaning it's impractical.

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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in news:ylfk62ee...@dd-b.net:

> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> writes:
>
>> On 3/8/2012 12:46 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> (Distilling, or doing anyting to concentrate the alcohol produced by
>>> fermentation, is illegal without expensive commercial licensing where I
>>> live, so I haven't had much chance to interact with people who do it.
>>> Not a law I particularly approve of.)
>>
>> In New York, when I lived there, only the Federal limit applied: ten
>> gallons of whatever you make, distilled or not before licensing was
>> required. I've lived in Jew Jersey for 50 years, but I never knew the
>> law here.
>
> The General Alcohol FAQ <http://ttb.gov/faqs/genalcohol.shtml> says:
>
> You cannot produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying
> taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled
> spirits plant. There are numerous requirements that must be met
> that make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage
> use. Some of these requirements are paying excise tax, filing an
> extensive application, filing a bond, providing adequate equipment
> to measure spirits, providing suitable tanks and pipelines,
> providing a separate building (other than a dwelling) and
> maintaining detailed records, and filing reports.
>
> Since that's a .gov site, I believe this describes current US law. So
> these days you can't distill legally at home without meeting the full
> commercial rules, meaning it's impractical.



Unless you don't tell them about it ;-)



--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

David Dyer-Bennet

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Mar 12, 2012, 1:49:01 PM3/12/12
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"I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:

Of course. Lots of that happening, even more back during our
Prohibition era :-).

I'm assuming people aren't running around admitting to their felonies
here, though. :-)

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David Dyer-Bennet <dd...@dd-b.net> wrote in
news:ylfk399d...@dd-b.net:

> "I'm back on the laptop" <Imb...@home.in.Brisbane> writes:
>

>>>
>>> Since that's a .gov site, I believe this describes current US law.
>>> So these days you can't distill legally at home without meeting the
>>> full commercial rules, meaning it's impractical.
>>
>>
>> Unless you don't tell them about it ;-)
>
> Of course. Lots of that happening, even more back during our
> Prohibition era :-).



Some of us aren't *that* old ;-P



>
> I'm assuming people aren't running around admitting to their felonies
> here, though. :-)



I'll keep the killings to myself ( ;-P ) .... but really don't care who
knows that I brew my own spirits :-)

And it tastes just like the shop bought stuff, but is better for you :-)


--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia
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