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Jack Fisher

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:07:55 PM1/21/02
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I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
members of theis group.

I am a solution provider for photographers and other people working in
the "digital" imaging field. I help people make the transition from
film to digital in photography and the graphic arts field. I have
always had a passion for things mechanical and working with my hands.
The day job just allows me to play in the shop and support my tool
addiction!

Jack


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Ed Huntress

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:33:27 PM1/21/02
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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.

Senior Editor, _Machine Shop Guide_ magazine.

Ed Huntress


AnV

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:47:57 PM1/21/02
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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

I am a firefighter/Emt. I like hands on stuff. I also have a magnetic
fascination with machines and the strange inability to resist the purchase
of just about any tool I see ( drives wife nuts )

Andy


Mike Graham

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:52:18 PM1/21/02
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC), "Jack Fisher"
<jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

Structural steel fitter, when I want to be. I work about 6 months
out of the year doing that. I also do welding/machining/fabricating
out of my shed.

--
Mike Graham | Steel-fitter and CWB-certified weldor
mike at metalmangler dot com | Raiser of horses
<http://www.metalmangler.com> | Mangler of metal

PLAlbrecht

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:52:20 PM1/21/02
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Well, I was hoping somebody would ask...

I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been
known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient
in the area of heat rentention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I
write award winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread
water for three days in a row. I woo women with my sensuous and godlike
trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging
speed, and I can cook 30-minute brownies in 30 minutes. I am an expert in
stucco, a veteran in love and an outlaw in Peru.

Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a
small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of fercious army ants. I play
bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Jays, I am the subject of numerous
documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard.

I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after work, I repair electrical
appliances free of charge. I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst and a
ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy
evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I recieve fan mail.
I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I
toured New Mexico with a travelling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat
.400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany
circles. Children trust me.

I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once
read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick and David Copperfield in one day and still had
time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location
of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert
operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a
chair. While on vacation in Libya, I successfully negotiated with a group of
terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to
me.

I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic and my bills are all paid. On weekends,
to let off steam, I participate in full contact origami. I have made
extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed
prize-winning clams. I have won bull fights in San Juan, cliff diving
competitions in Sri Lanka and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played
Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery and I have spoken with Elvis.


Pete
(Actually, I can't take credit for that. See
http://www.aci-plus.com/tips/tips21.htm

"attributed to one Hugh Gallagher, who reportedly submitted it in 1990, at the
age of 18, to New York University, where he was admitted. The essay won first
prize in the humor category of the 1990 Scholastic Writing Awards, appeared in
Literary Cavalcade and Harper’s."

Ed Huntress

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:04:34 PM1/21/02
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"PLAlbrecht" <plalb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I was hoping somebody would ask...

The prize-winning clams gave you away. Until that moment, I was in awe...

Obviously, you're one of those guys who take Robert Heinlein seriously.
Personally, I doubt if he was ever serious for a moment in his life, and
spent his entire career pulling people's legs. <g>

Ed Huntress


Extratec

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:11:33 PM1/21/02
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For a living I'm a computer sientist, but for fun I like to surf and play in my
workshop. Besides my degree in computer science I also have a degree in
mechanical engineering. I get more pleasure out of restoring old metal working
tools then I do using them. The same goes for cool old wood working tools. That
might come to an end soon, since I currently have a 9 month old daughter and my
wife is due with another one later this year.
Regis

Brian Lawson

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Jan 21, 2002, 3:56:44 PM1/21/02
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Hey Jack,

I retired the first of May, 2001, at 61.75 from a 35 year tenure as a
union elevator mechanic foreman for a large international elevator
manufacturer.

Brian Lawson
Windsor, Ontario.
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Dan Jones

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:20:55 PM1/21/02
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At the moment, I'm a web developer for the Cornell University Law School.
However, in the past, I've been a technical writer, prototype tester (for
Ingersoll Rand's Hoist and Lift division), prototype machinist and welder,
race car mechanic, heavy equipment operator and dirt salesman, auto
mechanic, motorcycle mechanic, motorcycle parts guy, woodworker, and a few
other things I'm sure to think of as soon as I hit the send button....

Dan Jones

PLAlbrecht

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:21:30 PM1/21/02
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>>The prize-winning clams gave you away. Until that moment, I was in awe...

That is probably the one thing I can ship out to you.

>>Obviously, you're one of those guys who take Robert Heinlein seriously.
Personally, I doubt if he was ever serious for a moment in his life, and spent
his entire career pulling people's legs. <g>

If so, it looks like he could dish it out but not take it.

For Christmas I just bought myself "The Art of Chesley Bonestell." It lends
some credence to what somebody wrote here a few months ago about encountering
him at a gas station in Santa Cruz? Carmel? And he wasn't a very nice person.
Bonestell says they respected each other but Heinlein "didn't approve of me"
after he'd told Heinlein that he thought his self-designed house "looked like a
gas station." (Bonestell was trained as an architect). "He got pretty annoyed."
The book says 'commenting on the bunker-like aspect of the Heinlein property,
which was surrounded by formidable fences, Bonestell said "I thought people
wanted to shoot him. He wasn't very nice... he had peculiar prejudices."
Nevertheless Bonestell thought well enough of Heinlein at the time they worked
together on Destination Moon to make him a present of a painting from "The
Conquest of Space."

Oh, well. Let's just keep our heroes the way we THINK they are.

Pete

Des Bromilow

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:24:49 PM1/21/02
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I design WANs for corporate and government clients. I was trained as an
electronics Engineer, but like Dilbert, work doesn't relate to uni, so I
design at home (I just need to improve my "seeing the project through to
completion" ratio)

I'll dabble in anything from crochet to cooking, but I'll steer clear of
sports (esp televised sports)

Des

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"Inner Child" be darned... I'm having WAY too much fun rediscovering
my "Inner Teenager"!!! dyb 11/2/99
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Peter A Forbes

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:48:27 PM1/21/02
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Yes, but he wrote some damm good books along the way, Glory Road being my
personal favourite :-))

Peter

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Arthur Hardy

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:57:33 PM1/21/02
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I work For DUPONT's largest tyvek customer, Making Tyvek envelopes. Im a
machine adjuster.

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Jim & Lil Morris

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:06:57 PM1/21/02
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Hi Jack,

I really do more "Lurking" in here than commenting. I am a pipeline
and plant ( facility) welder/ contractor with own small business in this
trade. I am also a Registerred gunsmith. Self taught machinist on my steel
lathe ( I dabble on the lathe). ....
For hobbies, I hunt, fish, and love RV camping ..I build and
fly radio controlled aircraft and play on computers . I can generally be
found playing with flight simulators on-line. Always like to converse with
other RC Flyers.
Regards....Jim Morris

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mike

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:15:03 PM1/21/02
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Fire Captain, nothing I like more than running into burning buildings.
Mike


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Fitch R. Williams

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Jan 21, 2002, 4:52:07 PM1/21/02
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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

Boeing Associate Technical Fellow
Senior Engineering Technical Specialist-T6,
Space Power Systems Engineering

Fitch

gromit

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:24:23 PM1/21/02
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Silly me, I just operate machine tools, weld, and fabricate.

When I am not working metals and plastics, I can be found:

operating a forklift or crane, in accounts receiveable, accounts payable,
accounts inconceiveable, IT, purchasing, estimating, building maintenance,
shipping, receiving, local pickup and delivery, housekeeping, and whatever
else a machine shop that is operated by only two guys would require.

And in my spare time, I sleep =)

For fun, I ride one of those annoying little japanese race bikes (Suzuki
Bandit 400 , 4stroke/4 cyl/4 valve/6 speed 14,000 rpm redline), I also work
on puters, and most things with wheels. Teaching self to play 5-string banjo
(the saxophone has limited audience appeal)

Jon Grimm
Grimm Machine & Model

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Rex Burkheimer

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:25:01 PM1/21/02
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Never heard of Machine Shop Guide.
Is that a trade publication or something suitable for a HSM?


Rex Burkheimer
Parts Plus Marketing Director WM Automotive Whse., Fort Worth TX
SCCA racer

"Never attribute to evil that which can be explained by stupidity" -George
Pyle
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Peter A Forbes

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC), "Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com>
wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm


>always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
>members of theis group.

We part-own a small electronics company making industrial battery chargers up to
100kW. About 8 people, two sites, play with engines and machinery in any spare
time, Rita has 5 ponies as a balance to my 30 engines :-))

Bill McGown

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:36:34 PM1/21/02
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Retired professor of Psychology with emphasis on Statistics and
Experimental Design. In a life long before that I was a NCR computer
field engineer. How life changes!

Take care

Bill


Victor Musil

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:38:00 PM1/21/02
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I'm a retired aerospace and defense engineer (almost 70 years old <g>)

Victor

Tom Young

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:46:22 PM1/21/02
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I'm an editor for one of IBM's web sites. I don't post here much (because I
don't know very much), but I do get a lot from reading the group.

--
Tom Young

Ed Huntress

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:37:25 PM1/21/02
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"Rex Burkheimer" <r...@wmautomotive.com> wrote in message
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> Never heard of Machine Shop Guide.
> Is that a trade publication or something suitable for a HSM?

It's a trade publication, but it wouldn't be of much use for a HSM. The
editors are a bunch of gray-haired refugees and retreads (including me) from
the glory days of _American Machinist_, the '60s and '70s. We have 105,000
subscribers. We write about expensive machines and automation -- the other
end of the scale from HSM.

I happen to be a HSM hobbyist myself, as are a couple of our other editors.

Ed Huntress


Robert Swinney

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:58:49 PM1/21/02
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Rex, you see Ed's "Machine Shop Guide" around , err, well, machine shop and
tool businesses. It is a good trade mag - wish I could qualify for a
subscription.

Bob Swinney

RF Systems Engineer

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jim rozen

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Jan 21, 2002, 5:36:21 PM1/21/02
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In article <20020121155220...@mb-fv.aol.com>, plalb...@aol.com
says...

>
>Well, I was hoping somebody would ask...

Driver, writer, flipper of jeeps....

Jim

jim rozen

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In article <9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org>, "Jack
says...

>
>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

Short bio is here at the metalworking site:

<http://www.metalworking.com/RCM-gallery/files/Rozen,Jim/_bio.txt>

Photo of me and my IBM mates is:

<http://www.metalworking.com/RCM-gallery/files/Rozen,Jim/Mates.jpg>

That's me on the far right, black shirt.

But the short answer is, staff engineer at IBM's
T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY.

Jim

Robert Swinney

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:07:21 PM1/21/02
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Fitch is modest to a fault. I happen to know that being accorded the title
"Boeing Associate Technical Fellow" is one of the highest honors that can be
bestowed by Boeing Corp.

Bob S.
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PLAlbrecht

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>>Driver, writer, flipper of jeeps....

I will have you know that friends of mine have tried this stunt three times and
never collected a cent. I get paid for it. I am even mentioned in dispatches
from Munich of all places.

Damn amateurs...

Pete
(Ya lefts outs master's degree, mechanical engineering, emphasis on combustion
engines; technical translator -- and breeder of award-winning clams.)

Tom Wait

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"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
> news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> > I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm

> > always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> > members of theis group.
>
> Senior Editor, _Machine Shop Guide_ magazine.
>
> Ed Huntress
>
>
Union carpenter/construction superintendent.
Tom Wait


T Mulone

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:36:49 PM1/21/02
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I am a scientific glassblower and machinist, self employed at home. For fun I
ride an old Ducati twin, fly airplanes, rebuild old lathes and can cook a
pretty good pot roast. <g>
Tim in Dallas >I was wondering what

James P. Riser

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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>
Jack;
Retired science and technology teacher. Former Apple Classrooms of Tomorrow
Experimental Learning Center instructor. Currently I earn my living by
designing and manufacturing apparatus for magicians.
Jim
http://www.jamesriser.com


dan

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:51:49 PM1/21/02
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What's that Lassie? You say that Jack Fisher fell down the old
rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
by Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC):

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

I'm a programmer for a pair of 6 axis swiss lathes. I also do setup
and operation.


--

Dan

Jack Erbes

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:47:43 PM1/21/02
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On 21 Jan 2002 20:52:20 GMT, plalb...@aol.com (PLAlbrecht) wrote:

>Well, I was hoping somebody would ask...
>

<snip>

Thank you Pete! I needed a good laugh!


Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jac...@midmaine.com)
(formerly ja...@vom.com, either email address will work for the foreseeable future)


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Steve Walker

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:37:59 PM1/21/02
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I used to be a NIASE certified master auto tech. For the last 19 years I've
been a CNC machinist/programmer.

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Mark Moulding

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:49:59 PM1/21/02
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

Lotsa stuff. I'm an electrical engineer by training. About 10 years ago, I
figured life was getting boring, so I quit my job and got married in the
same month. Since then, I've owned my own engineering firm, doing primarily
electronic product development and industrial automation. My interests
(and, I hope, strengths) are both hardware (electronic design, both analog
and digital [but not RF/antenna - that's black magic, I believe]) and
software (Windows applications, but more embedded firmware, also lots of PLC
stuff).

In addition, by way of the school of hard knocks, I also know how to: fill
out sheaves of employee and other tax forms, berate customers for money,
create plausible explanations for schedule slippages, soothe rumpled
feathers after having an employee push an air conditioner out of a
third-floor window, and consistently get cheaper prices for purchases
(usually, just by asking).

Once in a while, I actually get to make chips...

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MARKE Systems, Inc.


Jack Erbes

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:53:27 PM1/21/02
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC), "Jack Fisher"
<jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

Retired Navy Chief (was a cryptologist), the pension takes the sting
out of survival.

For pocket and fun money I'll entertain doing anything that is legal
and sounds like fun. I'm not a jack of all trades but I may be a jack
of almost any trade once.

Is this a great group or what? I call it the world's greatest
newsgroup and always recommend it to newbies as an example of a polite
and interesting place to see how newsgroups work.

Greg O

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:51:14 PM1/21/02
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Jack of all trades, master of none.
Currently a HVAC tech.
Worked as a CNC machine setup and operator too many years ago. Some
machinist type work also, jigs, fixtures, repairs. Still have the metal
working bug though!
Owned a small engine repair for 5 years. Also did some metal fabricating,
welding during that time. Went out of business, the boss was an idiot! ;-)
Sold commercial chemical for 4 years. Had the fastest growing sales
territory four years in a row, but it got boring! When the job gets easy it
is time to move on!
Still have all my tools and do a little auto repair and metal fabrication in
shop when I feel like it.
Greg


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Jurca51

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Jan 21, 2002, 6:48:42 PM1/21/02
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Well, first of all my hobby is making computer networks run... This job pays
the bills.

My real job is building my airplane (P51 replica) and buying all the
machinery to make the parts that I need for the airplane. Since the plane is
plans built I have to make everything... If I went out and purchased
finished parts then I could not afford to buy the machinery/tooling to make
the parts, and the welding, and screaming after I have just "butchered the
10th piece of metal. I won't tell you how long I have been building this
"proof of concept".. You see if I finished then that means I don't need any
other tooling/machines. Then I had to build a hangar in the back yard to fit
everything and all the neighbors need something made or fixed. Life goes
on.....

I could start another project though..

Merle


"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.

.....


carl

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Jan 21, 2002, 7:11:40 PM1/21/02
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Retired last year from 37 years in construction as an electrician.
Been fascinated by machine tools since childhood; I think the source
of this was the pictures of lathes in the Sears catalogs. I like to
make and fix things, to expand my tools and skills to make and fix
more things, and on and on and on. Current projects are the
restoration of a WWII vintage Rivett second op lathe and making the
Morrison and Martin model of the Mery Explosive Engine. The turret
lathe is to make the fasteners for the model engines. Projects to
make projects .....

Carl Wilson

Mario Mendes

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Jan 21, 2002, 7:14:32 PM1/21/02
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Senior Database administrator. I don't know how I ended up doing this since
what I really wanted to do was to go to college and get a masters in
electronic engineering. I really good at solving problems if it involves
using my hands, and for the past year or two I've been thinking that I
should start from scratch and go to college for that degree, except that I'd
go for an electro-mechanical degree instead of just electronics.

Mario


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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

> I am a solution provider for photographers and other people working in
> the "digital" imaging field. I help people make the transition from
> film to digital in photography and the graphic arts field. I have
> always had a passion for things mechanical and working with my hands.
> The day job just allows me to play in the shop and support my tool
> addiction!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>

Bob Edwards

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Jan 21, 2002, 7:23:58 PM1/21/02
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My day job is director of the Information Systems group at the Maryland
General Assembly. I also have a part-time business as a goldsmith and gem
trader, which will become my full-time business when I retire in the near
future, and I make custom metal parts and fabrications for a local
stained-glass artist who does a lot of church window and antique lamp
restorations. When he can't find a part he needs, I'll make it for him.

Regards,

Bob

Robert Swinney

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and breeder of award-winning clams.) Don't the shell hurt?
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Roger N

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I'm a peon, I do the work my boss doesn't want to do! One of these days the
boss said he would train me to operate the wheel barrow :-)

Spehro Pefhany

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The renowned Jack Fisher <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.

EE by education and that's what I've done for the past 20 or 30 years.
Have a young and growing business that designs and manufactures electronic
products, especially precision controls and instruments. Have done
import/export trade, and all the business crud like marketing, advertising
etc. I can make a silk screen from concept to film to screen to printing.
I have designed a PLC and a VFD and dozens of temperature controls and
tons of other stuff that is cool, boring or secret.I have TIG welded
probe tubes, run braiding machines, cleaned the washrooms and signed
deals with companies large and small on several continents. I've had bad
coffee at trade shows just about everywhere. I've studied public
relations, Chinese Art, survival in the woods, the Chinese language
and commercial intelligence gathering. I can write control firmware for
many different processors in a bunch of (computer) languages as well as
designing some pretty sophisticated analog electronics, especially for
tough industrial environments. I've ridden a motorbike in Cambodia and a
scooter in the Greek Islands. I've been robbed in Shanghai, threatened in
NYC, insulted and ripped off in Tokyo and shot at on a tributary of the
Mekong. I've had rocks thrown at me in South Central LA, gotten blotto
with tribesmen in Sarawak, and had a rifle pointed at my chest in
Albania. But mostly I like people everywhere and (mostly) they seem to
like me.

On the somewhat less or completely non-paying side, I'm into foreign
policy stuff, travel (see above), photography and graphic arts,
metalworking (of course!), dabbling in writing and other stuff like
spending time with SWMBO and six-year-old son Jack. I also enjoy spending
my spare time filling out various government forms and ensuring compliance
with all applicable regulations (not). SWMBO is an environmental
consultant (working for companies more often than gov'ts).

(The list of stuff I want to get to before croaking is MUCH longer, OF
COURSE..)

My personal mission statement:

To learn constantly, "stretch" daily and live with absolute integrity,
creating works of beauty and significance.

Best regards,
--
Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
sp...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Kathy and Erich Coiner

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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.


Senior Mechanical Engineer at a small design engineering company.
Basically hired guns for R&D.
Formerly a 19 year, small engineering cog in the big wheel known as Hewlett
Packard InkJet Printing.

Erich


Bill Browne

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Started out repairing medical equipment, ended up writing software. Hey,
you go where the money is.

--
Bill Browne
Excalibur http://excalibur-dbf.com
Medical Claims, Taft-Hartley Fund,
& Pension Administration Software

"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

Apacheforge

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<< I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. >>


I have been what I call a metals craftman. Started out as a silversmith,
jeweler. As such had to learn how to make many of the tools I used. Set
diamonds, worked gold. Became a successful sculptor in bronze and forged iron.
Had my own custom iron shop for 10years
and switched over to machinist. Managed a couple of places before opening my
own shop. I love what i do and wouldnt have done any differant.Rufo

Bob Powell

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Jan 21, 2002, 7:35:32 PM1/21/02
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Software geek, in the process of becoming a home-based business doing
something else. Software was fun until it became a job 20 years ago. HSM
is the obvious home business but for me it's a better hobby than a job.
Have an electrical engineering degree from MIT. At home I help my wife
with her metal, glass & ceramic art projects, and also build and repair all
sort of stuff. The art work has worked out well -- we have a TIG welder
and plasma cutter, among other things, only because my wife insisted I get
them for her projects.

Bob

eberlein

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Marv Soloff

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PLAlbrecht wrote:
>
> Well, I was hoping somebody would ask...
>
> I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been
> known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient
> in the area of heat rentention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I
> write award winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread
> water for three days in a row. I woo women with my sensuous and godlike
> trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging
> speed, and I can cook 30-minute brownies in 30 minutes. I am an expert in
> stucco, a veteran in love and an outlaw in Peru.
>
> Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a
> small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of fercious army ants. I play
> bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Jays, I am the subject of numerous
> documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard.
>
> I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after work, I repair electrical
> appliances free of charge. I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst and a
> ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy
> evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I recieve fan mail.
> I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I
> toured New Mexico with a travelling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat
> .400. My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany
> circles. Children trust me.
>
> I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once
> read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick and David Copperfield in one day and still had
> time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location
> of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert
> operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a
> chair. While on vacation in Libya, I successfully negotiated with a group of
> terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to
> me.
>
> I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic and my bills are all paid. On weekends,
> to let off steam, I participate in full contact origami. I have made
> extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I breed
> prize-winning clams. I have won bull fights in San Juan, cliff diving
> competitions in Sri Lanka and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played
> Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery and I have spoken with Elvis.
>
> Pete
> (Actually, I can't take credit for that. See
> http://www.aci-plus.com/tips/tips21.htm
>
> "attributed to one Hugh Gallagher, who reportedly submitted it in 1990, at the
> age of 18, to New York University, where he was admitted. The essay won first
> prize in the humor category of the 1990 Scholastic Writing Awards, appeared in
> Literary Cavalcade and Harper’s."


...and Olympic Gold Medal winner for Modesty.

Regards,

Marv

Marv Soloff

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Jack Fisher wrote:
>
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>
> I am a solution provider for photographers and other people working in
> the "digital" imaging field. I help people make the transition from
> film to digital in photography and the graphic arts field. I have
> always had a passion for things mechanical and working with my hands.
> The day job just allows me to play in the shop and support my tool
> addiction!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

I do computer hardware and software in the murky world of Data Security.
I would tell you more, but then I would have to shoot you.

Regards,

Marv

John & Beth Kasunich

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC), "Jack Fisher"
<jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
>always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
>members of theis group.
>

Senior Design Engineer, Rockwell Automation
I design VFDs (usually large ones, not HSM sizes)

John Kasunich


TSJABS

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I am a Union Electrician/ IBEW #146 I also do alittle machine and welding
work on the side as well as alittle backhoe and dirt work. Metal working has
been a 20+ year hobby..

mark rand

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76-81) Trained as a designer of large rotating electrical machines.
82-88) Carried out performance tests on steam turbines 'round the world
88-93) Balanced turbines and generators
Wrote software and designed instrumentation for both above
93-98) Took up computer wrangling for aerodynamics research lab
98-99) Looked after unix computers and rolled out NT on PCs on my site
2000) Built Global WAN for my company; found r.c.m; had a nervous
breakdown
2001) Took lots of anti depressants, got a lathe
Today) Cleaned up the results of a 500 (imperial) gallon diesel spill
from our computer room generator header tank; cut holes in some computer
room floor tiles on the radial arm drill; rebuilt a user's computer
Rest of my life) work on the basis that being paid for a 37 hour week
does not mandate an 80 hour week:-)

Mark Rand
RTFM

Lou Boyd

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Jan 21, 2002, 7:59:44 PM1/21/02
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Jack Fisher wrote:
>
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.

My astronomy hobby turned into a profession. I'm the director of an
astronomical obsevatory which is fully automated.
I design and build the telescopes and instrumentation. I'm also the
bookeeper, maintenance tech, and janitor. It provides photometric data
to a number of astronomers around the world.
http://www.fairobs.org

--
Lou Boyd

Dan Clingman

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Major Job:
Care and guidance of two daughters ages 3 and 5.
Care and maintenance of wife.

Hobby:
Grade 4 Engineer, Boeing Phantom Works( Fich is near the top Im in the
middle) R&D; developing new systems using piezo, Nitinol and other
"smart" materials.

Dan Clingman

Peter Keillor

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I've been in process r&d for Dow in one department or another for 28+ years.
I research, design, install new processes, select and program control
systems. I'm a lifelong Texan who got sucked to Midland, Michigan by his
wife's career (it's o.k., the basement shop was her inducement for me to
move north). The guys up here needed my help on a new process, and we're
about to make it a new business.

My degree is in chemistry, but I've had a lifelong mechanical bent. My
father got me a rusted up old door lock with key for my fourth birthday, and
"let" me disassemble, clean, reassemble, and paint it (made it work). We
farmed rice, built levee rollers (one of his inventions, I've got a few
myself), and crop dusted. Gave me an aversion to walking around in mud.

Pete Keillor


Joe Kultgen

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Jan 21, 2002, 8:20:00 PM1/21/02
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In article <9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org>,
jfi...@schillers.com says...

> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

Free lance IT person for several local firms too small to justify an "in
house" IT.

Joe

jim rozen

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Jan 21, 2002, 8:01:20 PM1/21/02
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In article <20020121183649...@mb-fb.aol.com>, tmu...@aol.com
says...
>
>I am a scientific glassblower and machinist, self employed at home. For fun I
>ride an old Ducati twin, fly airplanes, rebuild old lathes and can cook a
>pretty good pot roast. <g>

The glassblower part is interesting - they don't teach that anymore.
I still wonder what's going to happen at work when the one
glassblower retires. Nobody to take his place.

And the ducati is even *more* interesting - what year, model?

Jim

axolotl

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> Bob Swinney
>
> RF Systems Engineer
>

The Robert Swinney who writes app articles for Andrew?

Kevin Gallimore

Phil Kangas

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Jan 21, 2002, 8:43:31 PM1/21/02
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>Jack Fisher wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a
"real" job. I'm
>> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience
possesed by the
>> members of theis group.


I've become a semi-retired hobbyist since the place I
worked at as a weldor shut the doors and left town a little
over three years ago. I do repairs by welding and machining
in my own sole proprietor shop. It's amazing what comes
though the door but at least it pays my bills. Not much
expendable income here! I'll be 55 in a couple of months.
Phil Kangas
Twin Lakes Michigan


eberlein

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Soldier, Field Artillery. Mechanical Engineer - Heat Transfer & Machine
Design, 25+ years Design of solar collectors and solar heating systems.
Hamburger grilling machinery designer. Ammunition and instrumentation
engineering (ever tried to measure bullet velocity with a yard stick and
stop watch?) Exterior Ballistics and Heat Transfer software design.
Consulting. Designer of high efficiency gas furnaces. Manager of guys who
design high efficiency gas furnaces. Father, raiser of children. Husband
to women who raises same (and me). Gunsmithing, mostly self-taught amateur
machinist. Not sure what I want to be when I grow up, but am having fun
trying different things. Hope to retire one day, but not sure I can, 'cause
between me and my family and hobbies, all the money gets spent.

Mike Eberlein

Jack Fisher wrote:

> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

Jeff Thompson

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Jack Fisher wrote:

> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm

Principal systems engineer for Raytheon, working on the Hubble Space
Telescope ground control system redesign. Also crasher of RC model aircraft
(can you trell a scale pile of balsa shards from a simple model?) former
funny car shoe & all round engine builder. Anyone interested in home brew
engine controllers? Way more fun than rejetting Hollys and DCOE's.

Jeff Thompson

The Tagge's

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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.

Well, let's see; Retired from USAF, worked for a while as a Beltway bandit,
now the Air Force's Senior export licensing officer for munitions.(trying to
stop gun runners who report what they are doing)(yeah, sounds sort of
stupid, but there are folks who try to get licenses to sell all sorts of
stuff around the world that they should not.)
Volunteer firefighter (really like going into burning buildings)
Hypnotherapist
V/R
Bert


Rick

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Former diesel-electric submarine sailor (engineer)
Former pilot of deep diving manned submersibles.
Former bush pilot.
Former airline pilot.
Current Merchant Marine Chief Engineer (steamboat engineer)
Volunteer C/E on steam lightship and 113 year-old tugboat
Restoring my 1940's vintage wooden coastal tugboat.
Trying to figure out what I want to do when I grow up ...

Rick

Alan Moore

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC), "Jack Fisher"
<jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.

I haven't got a real job. Instead, I do failure analysis for
Lockheed-Martin Missiles and Space. They bring me the pieces (or
sometimes simply describe them to me) and I figure out why it broke.

Al Moore

Tony

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Pete,

You forgot to mention the bit about inventing the Albrecht drill chuck,

--
Tony

Visit TonysToolroom for info on Precision Scraping.
***Now with Powerscraping***

Don't skive that belt before you visit my flatbelt page!

Find out about OILHEAT Technology at my oilburner page.

http://www.csgnet.net/toolroom/


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Frank Wylie

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:57:15 -0500, Jeff Thompson <jeff...@erols.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Jack Fisher wrote:
>
>> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm

Laboratory Supervisor for the Library of Congress Motion Picture
Preservation Lab in Dayton, Ohio on Wright-Patterson, AFB.

Former motion picture timer (same place); worked on the restoration
of "All Quiet on the Western Front" and the preservation of several
thousand other motion pictures from 1994 to 2000.

Former:
Motion Picture sound engineer/mixer
Television Producer/Director (you never heard of the stations)
Independent Cinematographer
Videographer
Carpenter
Still Photographer

aspiring metal worker...

George Glines

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President
Franchise Finance Division
Textron Financial Corporation


Peter Reilley

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I write software for a living. I have done a lot of Linux work. I have
written
an open source program called "beav" (binary editor and viewer) that has
been
widely used by those of us that deal in low level bits.

I have 5 patents issued, all assigned to myself. I wish that I had enough
money
to patent some other ideas. Have I made any money? No, I still have a
real job.
I mostly use my machines to make my inventions. I have some inventions
that
I use every day.

Before I got into computers I traveled around the world installing
power plants. I mostly worked on Westinghouse 251 and 501 gas
turbines. That is why some of my opinions do not conform to
the American, "politically correct", world view.

Pete.

Rhbuxton

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Jan 21, 2002, 9:54:30 PM1/21/02
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I am a High School Tech Ed teacher and I wrote the Sawmill book that Lindsay
sells.

Gunner

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Jan 21, 2002, 9:55:26 PM1/21/02
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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:

>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm

>always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
>members of theis group.

Im a machine tool tech specializing in CNC lathes.

25 yrs as a tech in one field or another.

And I do get Machine Shop Guide every month...<G>

Gunner

"The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the
people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some
rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no
majority has a right to deprive them of."
- Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789

"Find out just what the people will submit to and you will have found
out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon
them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words
or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance
of those whom they oppress."
- Frederick Douglass

Gunner

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"gromit" <gro...@sgi.net> wrote:

> Teaching self to play 5-string banjo
>(the saxophone has limited audience appeal)

Clawhammer or finger picking?

Gunner..finger picker extrordinalily...bad...but owns his own RD-250

James P Crombie

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I seem to be one of the few professional machinist on the group, been
doing it for over 22 years now. I am also into mechanical design and
Cad as well as a amateur astronomer and telescope builder, relying on
the two previous professions.
Havn't taken it to Lou Boyd's extent yet :-)

Dick Streff

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:05:13 PM1/21/02
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Man, do I feel like a dope in a group like this.

I am a framing carpenter. I pound lots of nails on a daily basis. Right
know the most technical aspect of my day is picking the dryed glops of
subfloor adhesive off my hands.

I do get to work outside everyday. Unfortunately that includes January
in Nebraska.

Dick Streff

(I was the president of the National Honor Society in high school, though.)

Gunner

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:06:37 PM1/21/02
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ride...@spamshore.net (dan) wrote:

>What's that Lassie? You say that Jack Fisher fell down the old
>rec.crafts.metalworking mine and will die if we don't mount a rescue
>by Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:07:55 +0000 (UTC):


>
>>I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.
>

>I'm a programmer for a pair of 6 axis swiss lathes. I also do setup
>and operation.

Ooooo!!! What kind?

Gunner

jim rozen

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Jan 21, 2002, 9:48:17 PM1/21/02
to
In article <3C4CD221...@charter.net>, eberlein says...
>
>Jim,
>
>You couldn't be talking about:
>
>http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/news/ or
>
>http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/011122/11/emuz.html or
>
>http://www.accidentreconstruction.com/research/suv/jeepliberty112101.asp
>
>Could you?
>
>Nah, can't be our Pete.

Mebbe we can get Gunner to cross-post these to all those
cnc, survivalist, and gun nut ngs he frequents, just to
be sure that *everyone* is up on important news like this....

Jim

SMuel10363

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:08:01 PM1/21/02
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I own the largest mold shop in the midwest Ray Mueller

Gunner

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:12:18 PM1/21/02
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"Phil Kangas" <pka...@popupportup.com> wrote:

Wheres Twin Lakes?

Gunner, who graduated from Grayling HS

jim rozen

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Jan 21, 2002, 9:53:54 PM1/21/02
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In article <eT238.100448$_x4.10...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "mark
says...

>Rest of my life) work on the basis that being paid for a 37 hour week
>does not mandate an 80 hour week:-)

I hear that stuff, amen.

Wonder when *I'm* gonna wise up...

Jim

Mike Henry

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:19:06 PM1/21/02
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I do R&D on separations processes at Argonne National Lab (one of the DOE
national labs) near Chicago. Bench-scale to pilot-scale stuff, mostly
membrane related.

We have a Central Shops department with tools to drool over, but every once
in a while a little prototype is needed more quickly that the shop can
deliver. The home shop has really paid dividends then.

"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...

> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>

steamer

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:48:12 PM1/21/02
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--Family ranch management; one of many on the board; crop:
grapes and Fuji apples. I also do research and I'm on a steering committee
for an annual conference, but let's not go into that... ;-)

--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Some days I wish I
Building Battlebots galore! : lived in Loch Dubh...
http://www.killerbotz.org
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

UntMaintco

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:50:22 PM1/21/02
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I have an industrial maintenance company. I repair and rebuild machinery.
Mostly I do Power Presses and Tool Room stuff. I have a machine shop to make
and repair parts of machines. The one thing that is interesting is to see the
many different parts that are made. Everything from tiny little stamped
contacts that I can baerly see to subway cars.

At one time we were a bigger company, my Dad ran the place. We over saw the
moving of entire automated milling lines from breakdown to power up. We had
employees go to China in the 1980's to set up machinery and Korea too. The
early 90's slowed us (and everyone else) down to a sparce few. Then with my
Dads passing 2000 I have be come a one man band! Its busy but it pays the
bills. These days I do less playing in the shop and more time figuring out TAX
forms.....I need a better accountant!

So if your in the NYC tri-sate area and see my green GMC 3500-HD with the
funny looking utillity box and UMC on the door, stop and say Hi!

Tom Ebrech
United Maintenance Corp.
Stamford, CT

Mike Graham

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:59:42 PM1/21/02
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:05:13 GMT, Dick Streff <ds8...@home.com>
wrote:

>Man, do I feel like a dope in a group like this.

Why? There's something to be said for working outdoors and keeping
active. Challenge them to an arm-wrestling match. 8-) I have
buddies who are also tradesmen, one is a finish carpenter and another
is a stone mason. I help them out on occasion. If you think pounding
nails is bad, you should try repointing brick and stone walls. Oy.
And subfloor adhesive isn't much worse than mortar all over the place.


--
Mike Graham | Steel-fitter and CWB-certified weldor
mike at metalmangler dot com | Raiser of horses
<http://www.metalmangler.com> | Mangler of metal

Paul K. Dickman

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:44:26 PM1/21/02
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I repair antique metal work. This might involve putting a new willie on as
bronze statue of David that was broken off in a fit of censorial zeal, or
taking the dents out of that silver coffee pot you wife threw at you, or
rebuilding grandma's wedding ring after you crushed it, while banging on her
hand with the coffin lid, trying to get it off.

I also do custom metal work for architects and designers. This might be
lighting or an iron table or curtain hardware, and the occasional railing.

Basically, I do doo-dads for decorators.

Paul K. Dickman


Frank Wylie

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:01:30 PM1/21/02
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:05:13 GMT, Dick Streff <ds8...@home.com>
wrote:

>Man, do I feel like a dope in a group like this.


>
>I am a framing carpenter. I pound lots of nails on a daily basis. Right
>know the most technical aspect of my day is picking the dryed glops of
>subfloor adhesive off my hands.

Man, some of the smartest people I ever knew were carpenters. I took
VICA carpentry in High School and learned everything from framing to
cabinet work (not that I was ever any good, mind you!) from one
amazing man.

He taught me math when no one else could and saved my butt in school!

Sometimes wish I was still framing...

Frank

KD McCarthy

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:15:47 PM1/21/02
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Hello everyone,

Besides "lurking" here on this group, I am an Avionics Technician/A & P
Mechanic. I am a defense contractor in the Osan AFB, South Korea area.
Been fortunate enough to travel pretty much all over the world. (12 years
in Central/South America and around 3.5 in Europe). I've been in Asia for 2
years. I like to travel but now I'm pretty much grounded for awhile.

I've just started back to school pursuing a computer science degree.

I've always wanted a lathe and mill to make things. I'm fixing up one now
(Standard Modern 11 with a Versa Mil attachment). I build computers for
friends and myself as a hobby and am now tooling up for the lathe/mill. I
like tinkering with things and have always wanted the ability to build that
little tool or machine that pops into your head.

I enjoy learning about things from this groups discussions. You guys are
all right!


-Kevin McCarthy

PLAlbrecht

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:12:32 PM1/21/02
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>Nah, can't be our Pete.

Yup. It is.

Not to be found on the internet is the German magazine (Auto Bild, issue 42)
that damn near did the same thing a couple of weeks later. But they were tipped
off by my incident and only did a Joie Chitwood act with the wheels about two
feet off the ground going around sweepers on the Continental Tire test track.

That one really hit the fan: written up in Spiegel, Manager, Financial Times
Deutschland, and the Munich, Frankfurt, and Stuttgart papers (that I'm aware
of).

Pete

PLAlbrecht

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:14:15 PM1/21/02
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>>> "attributed to one Hugh Gallagher, who reportedly submitted it in 1990, at
the
> age of 18, to New York University, where he was admitted. The essay won first
> prize in the humor category of the 1990 Scholastic Writing Awards, appeared
in
> Literary Cavalcade and Harper’s."


>...and Olympic Gold Medal winner for Modesty.

Actually, if you look at that link, it says

"Need we say more? Chancellor, sign this young man up for a B.S.!"

Pete

Spehro Pefhany

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:17:55 PM1/21/02
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The renowned Frank Wylie <kon...@gemair.com> wrote:

> Man, some of the smartest people I ever knew were carpenters.

Harrison Ford and that famous guy in the Middle East back a couple
thousand years ago were both carpenters, IIRC. It's amazing how much
knowledge good tradespeople have.

Best regards,
--
Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
sp...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

PLAlbrecht

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:21:20 PM1/21/02
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>>Pete,

>>You forgot to mention the bit about inventing the Albrecht drill chuck,

I can't claim credit. I only hope to claim an inheritance.

Same goes for the Alsatian wine of the same name.

Pete

Dean

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:27:08 PM1/21/02
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I'm an Instrument Maker who started off with industrial controls ( process
automation ) and gradually worked my way into the medical caper so that now
I design and build surgical robots for eye surgery.

Dean.

Kent Frazier

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:35:48 PM1/21/02
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I got interested in machining as a hobby in the mid 70's.
Took some classes at a local trade school.
A mad scientist hired me to make stuff and I have been at it ever since.
Started my own shop this last year doing work for the science guys.
I get to work with really smart people on really interesting projects.
It still amazes me that I get paid for it.
Kent


Ernie Leimkuhler

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Jan 21, 2002, 10:39:49 PM1/21/02
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> The renowned Jack Fisher <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:
> > I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> > always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> > members of theis group.
>

Well after reading all the others I feel about middle of the pack.

36 years old, Trained in Blacksmithing at 14, Pottery at 15, Knifemaking at 15,
Machining at 16, Jewelry at 17, Welding at 17,Gunsmithing at 18, Foundry/casting
at 19............So of course my degree from Purdue is in Theatre Technology.

While at Purdue I ran a machine shop for the Mechanical Engineering
Hydromechanics Lab.

Was chief Pyrotechnician for the Battle of Tippicanoe Outdoor Drama, first 2
seasons.

Spent 2 years pretending to be a stagehand in San Francisco Bay Area, worked on
movies, plays, road shows, and had a small blacksmithing company making knives
and hardware.

Moved to Seattle in 92, Worked as a Stagehand for 9 years, Started doing
Architectural Metal 6 years ago as of this week.

Metals lead for the Seattle Opera Assoc. Scene Shop, from 93 - 97.

I started teaching Welding at South Seattle Community College 3.5 years ago, and
love it, when they let me.

Kind of funny, even though the Stagehands Union tossed me for non payment of
dues about a year ago (I really didn't have time to play with them any more),
they still insist that I am the welding instructor for the apprenticeship
program.

Now I mainly make pretty things for rich folks.
I feel it is my sollemn sworn duty to leach as much money from the wealthy as is
possible.

Started making (real) Anvils 6 years ago, and likely that will be the claim to
fame on my Tombstone.

The man silly enough to reinvent a lump of steel.

My other passion is Macintosh computers.
I know everything about the older Macs, the current crop are baffling to work on.
Apple went proprietary on everything.
I build and fix them for freinds.

Free time is often spent playing Unreal Tournament online ([osX]Ironman).

It looks like I might take of teaching blacksmithing soon.

Now if I could just find something that actually pays well.

--
--
There are only two kinds of food: good and bad.
Also, all of life's big problems include the words "indictment" or "inoperable."
Everything else is small stuff.
Alton Brown, Host of Food TV's Good Eats.

Dar S.

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:24:08 PM1/21/02
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Not hard to get us to talk about ourselves, is it?.

Was a jeweler/modelmaker as a job; never made a living at it though.

Now I make cheap dies for people who can't afford real ones. Handmade,
one-piece, heat treated tool steel pancake blanking dies. Hydraulic
forming crap too. Squeeze the crap out of things... and things out of
crap too, I bet.
Compresed sludge building .... nevermind!!!, sorry. Nope, no more sorry.

Oh yeah, I put up with Uncle Phil for 6 hrs. a day. Not getting paid
enough for that, not even close (^:#.

Acoustic guitar & music as an obsession .
Wife and spiritual path to make this crappy boring life tolerable. (more
smiley things, and some stick-out-tongue ones )

Sorry you asked yet ?

dar

Gordon Couger

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Jan 21, 2002, 11:47:28 PM1/21/02
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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>
I am retired. Most of my life I was a farmer in the off season I worked as a
wielder, helicopter machinist, photographer, cotton gin hand or what ever
was available.

In 1980 I had my first bad attack of multiple sclerosis and took up computer
programming. I marketed the first program to casher auctions on site. I
worked on an automatic score keeper for bowling then I went to work for the
Ag engineering department as computer specialist were I did modeling,
embedded systems and such.

The simple answer is I solved problems. For more info see
www.couger.com/gcouger

I would have done better to stick with one thing but I wouldn't have had as
much fun.

Gordon


Ed Huntress

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Jan 22, 2002, 12:05:50 AM1/22/02
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"Dick Streff" <ds8...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3C4CD6A5...@home.com...

Firstly, former school presidents of NHS are rarely dopes. Secondly, what
you've chosen to do for a living has little to do with one's state of
dopiness. And, thirdly, what we do in our day jobs doesn't have any
necessary connection to what's going on here -- unless one is a toolmaker or
machinist.

As for subfloor adhesive, I have a question: How the hell do you get it off
your wooden hammer handles without wrecking them? Mine are a mess.

Ed Huntress


Bill Browne

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Jan 22, 2002, 12:12:47 AM1/22/02
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She got a sister? :-)

--
Bill Browne
Excalibur http://excalibur-dbf.com
Medical Claims, Taft-Hartley Fund,
& Pension Administration Software

"Bob Powell" <bo...@dogpatch.com> wrote in message
news:ot238.45$ST4.1...@bcandid.telisphere.com...
> Software geek, in the process of becoming a home-based business doing
> something else. Software was fun until it became a job 20 years ago.
HSM
> is the obvious home business but for me it's a better hobby than a job.
> Have an electrical engineering degree from MIT. At home I help my wife
> with her metal, glass & ceramic art projects, and also build and repair
all
> sort of stuff. The art work has worked out well -- we have a TIG welder
> and plasma cutter, among other things, only because my wife insisted I get
> them for her projects.
>
> Bob


>
>
> "Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
> news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> > I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> > always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> > members of theis group.
> >

Mark Winlund

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Jan 22, 2002, 12:31:29 AM1/22/02
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At least he put it at the top this time.... last time this came up, he
didn't even mention it!

Mark


"Robert Swinney" <jud...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> Fitch is modest to a fault. I happen to know that being accorded the
title
> "Boeing Associate Technical Fellow" is one of the highest honors that can
be
> bestowed by Boeing Corp.
>
> Bob S.
> "Fitch R. Williams" <frwi...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:973p4ucdsr340cr05...@4ax.com...


> > "Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job.
> >

> > Boeing Associate Technical Fellow
> > Senior Engineering Technical Specialist-T6,
> > Space Power Systems Engineering
> >
> > Fitch
>
>


Mark Winlund

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"Jack Fisher" <jfi...@schillers.com> wrote in message
news:9771ce949003c8cb5c9...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> I was wondering what the members of this group do for a "real" job. I'm
> always amazed at the scope of knowledge and experience possesed by the
> members of theis group.
>


Collect rent checks, play in the shop, crab about young people.... I'm
retired!

Mark


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