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leakdown test kit, where to get?

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William Wixon

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Nov 18, 2007, 10:14:06 PM11/18/07
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anybody know where to get a inexpensive leakdown tester for a two stroke
engine? in my sthil (026 chainsaw) manual they also call for a vacuum
pressure test too on the crankcase, how about that? anybody know where to
get a inexpensive leak down kit that also does vacuum?


Jerry Foster

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Nov 19, 2007, 12:05:03 AM11/19/07
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"William Wixon" <wwi...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Try any auto parts store. They sell a combination pressure/vacuum gauge and
a little hand vacuum pump, both general purpose tools for a variety of
diagnostic/maintenance functions.

Jerry


Bob

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Nov 19, 2007, 12:06:12 AM11/19/07
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Horrible Fright has a cheep leakdown tester, don't think it does
vacuum tho............

Bob

Pete Snell

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Nov 19, 2007, 9:58:24 AM11/19/07
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Easy to build. Blank off both intake and exhaust, put a pressure gauge
(0-10psi is good) on one blank. Make a fitting for the sparkplug hole
(from an old sparkplug!) with a schraeder fitting. Use a bicycle pump to
pressurize to about 6psi (no more!). Pressure should hold, or drop less
than 1/2 psi in a minute. If it doesn't, go looking for the leak with a
bit of soapy water and a paintbrush. Same setup with a gauge that will
read neg pressure will work for a vacuum. (take the core out of the
valve stem though)

Pete
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Jim Stewart

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Nov 19, 2007, 6:01:22 PM11/19/07
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Try Aircraftspruce.com

Standard tool for 2-stroke ultralight engines.

William Wixon

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Nov 20, 2007, 11:25:30 PM11/20/07
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wow, that's depressing, and i had my hopes up.

CAM CORRECT PRESS/VAC TESTER 12-00739 $229.95

almost as much as a brand new chainsaw.
thanks anyhow.

b.w.


William Wixon

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Nov 20, 2007, 11:29:46 PM11/20/07
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"Jerry Foster" <jmfoster...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Try any auto parts store. They sell a combination pressure/vacuum gauge
> and
> a little hand vacuum pump, both general purpose tools for a variety of
> diagnostic/maintenance functions.
>
> Jerry
>
>

thanks Jerry, i guess that's what i'm gonna have to rig up.

b.w.


William Wixon

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Nov 20, 2007, 11:30:54 PM11/20/07
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"Pete Snell" <sne...@rmc.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Easy to build. Blank off both intake and exhaust, put a pressure gauge
> (0-10psi is good) on one blank. Make a fitting for the sparkplug hole
> (from an old sparkplug!) with a schraeder fitting. Use a bicycle pump to
> pressurize to about 6psi (no more!). Pressure should hold, or drop less
> than 1/2 psi in a minute. If it doesn't, go looking for the leak with a
> bit of soapy water and a paintbrush. Same setup with a gauge that will
> read neg pressure will work for a vacuum. (take the core out of the valve
> stem though)
>
> Pete
>


thanks Pete.
i've done a leakdown test before, i rigged up a leakdown tester years ago
for a Cuyuna 430 2 stroke, but the repair manual only asked me to do a
pressure test, not a vacuum test (like the stihl handbook is), i
didn't(/don't) know where to get a vacuum pump and a gauge that reads
vacuum, i mean, for less than the $229 aircraft spruce is asking for theirs.

b.w.


Pilgrim

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Nov 21, 2007, 12:03:36 AM11/21/07
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In article <2wO0j.20911$ya1....@news02.roc.ny>,
"William Wixon" <wwi...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

I think HF has a vacuum pump/gage kit. It was on sale in one of the last
catalogs.

Chuck P.

Pete Snell

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Nov 21, 2007, 10:59:24 AM11/21/07
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William Wixon wrote:

>
> thanks Pete.
> i've done a leakdown test before, i rigged up a leakdown tester years ago
> for a Cuyuna 430 2 stroke, but the repair manual only asked me to do a
> pressure test, not a vacuum test (like the stihl handbook is), i
> didn't(/don't) know where to get a vacuum pump and a gauge that reads
> vacuum, i mean, for less than the $229 aircraft spruce is asking for theirs.
>

One of these; <http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp> or
<http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3660-Vacuum-Brake-Bleeding/dp/B000EVYGXC>
should work with the setup I mentioned previously.

Cheap too.

Pete

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Leon Fisk

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Nov 21, 2007, 1:04:37 PM11/21/07
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:03:36 -0800, Pilgrim
<pil...@noemail.net> wrote:

>I think HF has a vacuum pump/gage kit. It was on sale in one of the last
>catalogs.
>
>Chuck P.

Yes they do, two of them that would probably work okay. At
least for one job/repair ;-)

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Bruce in Bangkok

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Nov 21, 2007, 1:14:17 PM11/21/07
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:24 -0500, Pete Snell <sne...@rmc.ca> wrote:

>William Wixon wrote:
>
>>
>> thanks Pete.
>> i've done a leakdown test before, i rigged up a leakdown tester years ago
>> for a Cuyuna 430 2 stroke, but the repair manual only asked me to do a
>> pressure test, not a vacuum test (like the stihl handbook is), i
>> didn't(/don't) know where to get a vacuum pump and a gauge that reads
>> vacuum, i mean, for less than the $229 aircraft spruce is asking for theirs.
>>
> One of these; <http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp> or
><http://www.amazon.com/Equus-3660-Vacuum-Brake-Bleeding/dp/B000EVYGXC>
> should work with the setup I mentioned previously.
>
>Cheap too.
>
>Pete

Don't auto tool shops still sell those pressure/vacume gages that
every mechanic used to carry to check intake manifold vacuum and fuel
pump pressure? As I remember it they were pretty cheap.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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from address for reply)

Jim Stewart

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Nov 21, 2007, 4:41:00 PM11/21/07
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How does $69.50 sound....

http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/STR-CLT2PB.html

My mechanic turned me on to this place for tools...

Pete Snell

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Nov 22, 2007, 9:17:35 AM11/22/07
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Jim Stewart wrote:

>
> How does $69.50 sound....
>
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/STR-CLT2PB.html
>
> My mechanic turned me on to this place for tools...

I've got to warn you that this isn't the tool you want to do a
leakdown test on a 2-stroke engine. The pressure it uses is far too
high, and you would probably end up popping the crankseals out of your
engine. These types of leakdown testers are used in 4-stroke engines,
where you're just checking the integrity of the combustion space. On a
two stroke, you're also checking the crankcase and intake tract
integrity, usually with about 6psi max. The leak tester in the link
attaches directly to your air compressor, and will pressurize the
crankcase of your 2-stroke far above what it would normally see.

Pete

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