Dishwasher as a parts washer
Proctologically Violated┊
A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
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Charlie Gary
Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Awl--
>
> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
> drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
> own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
I think you should try it just because it would be fun. Are you gonna
fill the bucket with Simple Green?
I know washing a motorcycle engine in the dishwasher inside the house
will turn the inside of the white washer beige. Forever.
Later,
Charlie
Rex B
> Proctologically ViolatedŠŽ wrote:
>> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
>> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
>> drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
Use the premium Cascade liquid dishwasher soap. I doubt anything else
would do better.
>> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
>> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
>> own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
>> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
Use the outlet pump to push it to a reservoir high above the dishwasher,
gravity feed back down.
> I think you should try it just because it would be fun.
2nd that!
> I know washing a motorcycle engine in the dishwasher inside the house
> will turn the inside of the white washer beige. Forever.
"Honest Honey, it's been beige all along!"
Andrew VK3BFA
Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> Awl--
>
> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
> drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
> own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
Yep. Works well - but dont EVER try to do dishes in in afterwards. Keep
it stock, use dishwasher powder - its heavily loaded with alkaline
salts, so rips through grease. BUT - does horrible things to aluminium.
A good score - congrats...
Andrew VK3bFA.
Half-nutz
Just to test the theory, go to any dishwasher, and toss in some Liquid
Palmolive, or some Dawn. Dawn is very good on grease. Just to see how
it could work. It is a good experiment to prove the concept.
Pete
Ignoramus11550
> Awl--
>
> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
> drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
> own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
I tried using a dishwasher to wash parts of my Kalashnikov and was
disappointed. They acquired a slight layer of rust after washing.
i
Gary H. Lucas
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I know a machine shop using a dishwasher just as you want to do. It works
well. But what to do with the waste water?
AHHA!
See my thread on the UF filter for disposing of water based coolants and
such.
Gary H. Lucas
Bob Engelhardt
> ... couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, ...
Don't bother with the inlet, just pour the solvent right in the
dishwasher. But if you mean petroleum based solvent, I wouldn't. Just
use dishwasher detergent, as others have said.
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. ...
If you're not using solvent, leave the heater in, it will clean much
better with hot water.
> Or spins it centrifugally?
The pump spins the arm(s) using angled jets.
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
See above.
You might want to change the wiring a little. For instance, disconnect
the drain valve so it just keeps using the same water/solution. Or put
it on a separate switch. Maybe you just want to put the motor & heater
on a switch and not use the built in controls at all.
Bob
Carl Ijames
"Half-nutz" <3t...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> Just to test the theory, go to any dishwasher, and toss in some Liquid
> Palmolive, or some Dawn. Dawn is very good on grease. Just to see how
> t could work. It is a good experiment to prove the concept.
> Pete
Danger, danger, Will Robinson! :-) Dishwashers don't like foam at all,
and regular liquid dishwashing detergeants like those are made to foam
up a lot so they look like they are really doing something in the sink.
Put them in a dishwasher and you can easily wind up with the
stereotypical floor covered in foam - btdt. Dishwashing detergeants for
automatic dishwashers are very low foam.
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heat to work so run your heating elements. (hottest cycle) Immediately
after the dishwasher has completed its cycle open and remove all your parts.
They should be warm. Blow off any residual moisture with a blast of air.
Waste water can be handled by sewage treatment. Many households pour
their cooking oil down the sanitary sewer in my local area.
Randy
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PrecisionMachinisT
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> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
Appreciate quit crossposting this kinda thing.
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Snag
That's because you didn't dry them and oil immediately . The dishwasher
stripped all the oil , which is what it's s'posed to do .
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Ignoramus18503
> Ignoramus11550 wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:12:12 -0500, Proctologically Violated©®
>> <entropic...@optonline2.718.net> wrote:
>>> Awl--
>>>
>>> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
>>> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet,
>>> and the drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts
>>> washer?
>>> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
>>> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it
>>> has its own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
>>> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
>>
>> I tried using a dishwasher to wash parts of my Kalashnikov and was
>> disappointed. They acquired a slight layer of rust after washing.
>>
>> i
>
> That's because you didn't dry them and oil immediately . The dishwasher
> stripped all the oil , which is what it's s'posed to do .
>
Um, they had rust when I took them out of the washer. I was unclear.
i
Dave Lyon
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Ya! The nerve of you to cross post something that is on topic when there is
so much religion and politics to talk about!
SAMMM
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Randy Replogle
> Awl--
>
> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and the
> drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has its
> own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
Just don't use a solvent/cleaner that will eat the seals.
Randy
Half-nutz
Carl Ijames wrote:
> "Half-nutz" <3t...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:1163553162....@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> and regular liquid dishwashing detergeants like those are made to foam
> up a lot so they look like they are really doing something in the sink.
> Put them in a dishwasher and you can easily wind up with the
> stereotypical floor covered in foam - btdt. Dishwashing detergeants for
> automatic dishwashers are very low foam.
>
> --
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> Carl Ijames carl dott ijames aat verizon dott net
> (remove nospm or make the obvious changes before replying)
Man! You guys sure are a bunch of spoilsports!
It was a good setup there.
Pete
Garlicdude
> "Half-nutz" <3t...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:1163553162....@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Just to test the theory, go to any dishwasher, and toss in some Liquid
>> Palmolive, or some Dawn. Dawn is very good on grease. Just to see how
>> t could work. It is a good experiment to prove the concept.
>> Pete
>
> Danger, danger, Will Robinson! :-) Dishwashers don't like foam at all,
> and regular liquid dishwashing detergeants like those are made to foam
> up a lot so they look like they are really doing something in the sink.
> Put them in a dishwasher and you can easily wind up with the
> stereotypical floor covered in foam - btdt. Dishwashing detergeants for
> automatic dishwashers are very low foam.
>
How about using the same type of low foaming soap that you
use in a tumbler?
Best,
Steve
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Snag
I use the dishwasher to clean black powder weapon parts . As soon as the
drying cycle starts , I pull them and hit them *immediately* with WD40 or
other light oil/solvent . If I don't do this , I get a light coating of
flash rust , which is what you're (apparently) describing .
Ignoramus18503
> Ignoramus18503 wrote:
>>> That's because you didn't dry them and oil immediately . The
>>> dishwasher stripped all the oil , which is what it's s'posed to do .
>>>
>>
>> Um, they had rust when I took them out of the washer. I was unclear.
>
> I use the dishwasher to clean black powder weapon parts . As soon as the
> drying cycle starts , I pull them and hit them *immediately* with WD40 or
> other light oil/solvent . If I don't do this , I get a light coating of
> flash rust , which is what you're (apparently) describing .
Exactly what happened in my case.
i
Rex B
Pour some ATF into that little compartment for the rinse additive? <G>
Snag
If it was in my shop , I might try that ! But this one is in our kitchen .
Proctologically Violated┊
:)
But here's another thought:
With everything coming with goddamm ICs now, they will be *breaking like
crazy*, w/ nuthin wrong w/ the basic mechanicals!
I'm seeing this already in fancy-schmancy space heaters, fans, dehumidifers,
A/Cs, etc.
All's you gotta do is bypass the solid state, and BANG, the unit works!
It's basically on/off now, but it works.
Proly will see, in short order, appliances thrown out in *shiploads*, w/
*perfectly good mechanicals*, so's *you too* can own yo' own
dishwasher/parts washer in yer shop. Proly A/Cs galore.
Proly some wicked parts in them thar dishwashers, as well. Jacuzzi's too.
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Martin H. Eastburn
Once out - not dried - just washed - then it is dumped in a barrel of oil.
Water is drawn off. Oil soaks into the oil felts.
The dish washing fluid (paste) or powder is a LYE or strong Base and will
cause some light grade AL to etch - check kitchen fry pans... handles of plastic ...
The lye does attack most solvent. Just keep it off you!
It will turn you to soap. Grease to soap...
Martin
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Bob
> >
> Um, they had rust when I took them out of the washer. I was unclear.
>
and grease off, and then the machine basically steams the part dry,
which will flash-rust iron or steel. You have to nab the parts as soon
as the cleaning cycle is done, while they are still damp, then dry them
off and immediately oil.
BTW, the detergent will corrode the heck out of brass parts, too -- as
I found out the hard way once. Which also lead to learning the
following lesson:
DON'T get caught cleaning parts in the family dishwasher! This is NOT
a good thing....
Bob
Jon
at a a rate that I wasn't pleased with.
I was curious about the new aqueous cleaners, but the price, yikes.
I wanted to experiment with a residential dishwasher, but I was pretty sure
the fine chips would attack the pump pretty quickly.
I spent a lot of time searching, and found a military surplus commercial
dishwasher on ebay. It was wired for 50cycles, and that didn't matter, and
it had a steam heat exchanger. I need to rig a way to get a hotter inlet
water temp, with a booster heater, but initial trials showed great results.
"Proctologically Violated┊" <entropic...@optonline2.718.net> wrote in
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> Awl--
>
> A coworker is cleaning out his garage, and has a dishwasher.
> Material compatibility aside, couldn't I run solvent into the inlet, and
> the drain into a bucket, and use this as a bad-assed parts washer?
> Yeah, I know, disconnect the dryer/heating element. :)
> I'm assuming inlet water pressure (60 psi) would not be req'd, as it has
> its own pressurizing pump? Or spins it centrifugally?
> If it did need 60 at the inlet, I could do this w/ a sep. pump.
Michael A. Terrell
>
> As our order quantites slowly climbed, I noticed our cleaning costs growing
> at a a rate that I wasn't pleased with.
>
> I was curious about the new aqueous cleaners, but the price, yikes.
> I wanted to experiment with a residential dishwasher, but I was pretty sure
> the fine chips would attack the pump pretty quickly.
>
> I spent a lot of time searching, and found a military surplus commercial
> dishwasher on ebay. It was wired for 50cycles, and that didn't matter, and
> it had a steam heat exchanger. I need to rig a way to get a hotter inlet
> water temp, with a booster heater, but initial trials showed great results.
Modified stainless steel commercial dishwashers are used to clean
printed circuit boards in manufacturing to remove the flux residue and
body oils from handling the blank boards. The one we had at Microdyne
had a large polypropylene holding tank and circulating pump to reuse the
cleaner. It was flushed and refilled about once a week.
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Central Florida