IPA Suggestions (long post)
Rhoobarb
pale ale typical of a Bass knock off and it turned out well. But this
will be my first IPA. I'm closely following James T. Reese's Diving
Duck Ale recipe out of Marty Nachel's Homebrewing For Dummies.
According to the book, it took a 1st place award at the AHA nationals
one year, so I figured it would be a good place to start. But I have
made some changes. My current recipe is below:
Randy Rooster India Pale Ale
Recipe Ó 2005 by Mark Pannell
Extracts:
3.52 lbs. John Bull hopped extract
3.75 lbs. Cooper's Bitter hopped extract
1 lb. Plain light DME
Grains:
1/2 lb. British Crystal malt, 2-row (40-L )
1/2 lb. British Pale Ale malt, 2-row (1.6-L)
Bittering hops: 1 oz. Willamette [4.8% AAU] (60 mins.)
Flavoring hops: 1 oz. Cascade [5.4% AAU] (15 mins.)
Finishing hops: 1/2 oz. Kent Goldings [4.0% AAU] (10 mins.)
Dry hop: 1 oz. Kent Goldings [4.0% AAU]
Fining agent: 1 tsp. Irish moss (15 mins.)
Yeast: White Labs WLP023 Burton Ale Yeast
Misc. Flavorings: 4 oz. malto-dextrin powder
Primary: 6 days at 68o- 70o F
Secondary: 8 days at 68o- 70o F
Total boil: 60 minutes
Crack the grains, place in muslin grain bag and hold at 155o F for 30
minutes. Remove the grains and bring to a boil. Add extracts and DME
off heat, bring to a boil and follow schedule above. Cool wort and top
off to 5 gallons. Pitch yeast when cooled to 70o F and add dry hops.
Prime with 1-1/4 cups plain DME.
The original Diving Duck calls for 2 lbs. of light DME and no grains at
all. I have always used grains! So, I decided to scale back the DME to
1 lb. and use some grains I happen to have on hand that sounded like
they might fit the profile. I also have some Simpson's Dark crystal
(90-L) and was tempted to throw it into the mix as well, but decided to
hold off.
This is also the first time I have ever used hopped extracts or
malto-dextrin powder and I'm a little apprehensive about that. I
assume the malto-dextrin it is added at the beginning of the boil(?).
But these are what the original calls for. Besides, I've already
bought them! Also, the original did not use any Cascades at all. Adding
them at 15 mins. was my own idea after looking over other IPA recipes.
The original also used Wyeast #1056, I like White Labs.
I would greatly appreciate any thoughts, suggestions, warnings,
changes, etc. before I dive in! Thanks!
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Rhoobarb
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>This weekend I'm planning to brew an India Pale Ale. I've done a
>pale ale typical of a Bass knock off and it turned out well. But this
>will be my first IPA. I'm closely following James T. Reese's Diving
>Duck Ale recipe out of Marty Nachel's Homebrewing For Dummies.
>According to the book, it took a 1st place award at the AHA nationals
>one year, so I figured it would be a good place to start. But I have
>made some changes. My current recipe is below:
[snip]
I would skip this recipe and just look for one less complicated. I don't see any
good reason why to use hopped extract and different brands/types of extract if
you are going to be using specialty grain and your own hops anyway. Hopped
extracts are for brewers that don't want to add their own hops. And without
knowing the fermentability of the DME, adding malto-dextrin is probably not
called for.
And to be honest, I think Homebrewing for dummies is a good door stop - sorry.
Why not just ask here and I'm sure you'll get a great, award winning extract IPA
recipe that is more likely to be duplicated.
Todd Enlund
>This weekend I'm planning to brew an India Pale Ale. I've done a
>pale ale typical of a Bass knock off and it turned out well. But this
>will be my first IPA. I'm closely following James T. Reese's Diving
>Duck Ale recipe out of Marty Nachel's Homebrewing For Dummies.
>According to the book, it took a 1st place award at the AHA nationals
>one year, so I figured it would be a good place to start. But I have
>made some changes. My current recipe is below:
>
>Randy Rooster India Pale Ale
>Recipe Ó 2005 by Mark Pannell
>
>Extracts:
>3.52 lbs. John Bull hopped extract
>3.75 lbs. Cooper's Bitter hopped extract
>1 lb. Plain light DME
I would recommend unhopped extract, and compensating by increasing
your hop additions to suit.
>Grains:
>1/2 lb. British Crystal malt, 2-row (40-L )
>1/2 lb. British Pale Ale malt, 2-row (1.6-L)
Pale Ale malt should not be steeped... it should be mashed. Just use
the Crystal.
>Bittering hops: 1 oz. Willamette [4.8% AAU] (60 mins.)
>
>Flavoring hops: 1 oz. Cascade [5.4% AAU] (15 mins.)
>
>Finishing hops: 1/2 oz. Kent Goldings [4.0% AAU] (10 mins.)
>
>Dry hop: 1 oz. Kent Goldings [4.0% AAU]
Nice choices for hops, but I'd recommend lots more of them :-)
>Fining agent: 1 tsp. Irish moss (15 mins.)
>
>Yeast: White Labs WLP023 Burton Ale Yeast
I've used this yeast before , and I really liked it for an IPA.
>Misc. Flavorings: 4 oz. malto-dextrin powder
Malto-dextrin isn't a flavoring, it will add body to the beer. I've
successfully added it to a beer to improve the body after it was
finished by boiling it in to a syrup. Hence, I'm sure that you could
add it at any time... beginning of the boil would be the easiest.
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Todd Enlund
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phil
1. I would use unhopped extract. You never know what hops they used they
used or how much. In a style like this, hop character is everything so
that's the one thing you should control completely.
2. There are two main styles of IPA - British and American. There isnt
anything inherently wrong with using Cascade and Golding together, and its
more important that you like it then it is that it be true to style. But
most commercial styles probably wouldnt mix the hops. If you like American
IPAs, exchange Cascade for the KG. If you like a british style, replace the
Cascade with KG.
3. Also consider White Labs 001 - California Ale. It really brings out hop
profile.
4. Double (at least) the finishing and dry hopping rates. IPA is about
hops, period. You can only go so far with bittering or it will be out of
balance, but the sky is the limit for the aroma.
"Rhoobarb" <mar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Rhoobarb
really like IPA's (and APA's, too), I've decided to do this recipe as
is AND do a more conventional batch using unhopped exctract and the
suggestions you have given me. I'm especially grateful for the
suggestions on the hops. When I have a thirst for a hoppy beer, I
REALLY want a hoppy beer! I'll be dropping the Cascades from the HFD
recipe and save them for another time.
I looked over some of the recipes posted on Cat's Meow and, as luck
would have it, this week's recipe on the BYO website is an IPA recipe!
(http://byo.com/recipe/233.html) So, I think I'm good to go for
formulating my '2nd' recipe. I'll do them on two consecutive days and
try them side by side when the time comes!
Thanks everyone!