Brad Reed: Idiot (and not alone)
Mike Echo Mike
importance relevant to the Culture of Numismatics. One of our virtues
is that we rely on our own judgement. Contrarianism is so prevalent
that the only way to buck the crowd is to follow it. Everyone is an
expert in their own mind. This is indeed a basic virtue and I honestly
believe in my heart of hearts that humanity would be a happier species
if all of us exhibited the virtues of a numismatist for independent
judgement tempered by a healthy dose of greed.
However...
Brad Reed wrote: In my opinion, based on my 25+ years of numismatic
experience, the grades assigned by Accugrade do not correspond the the
standards generally accepted in the marketplace. The failure of
Accugrade to reform their practices may pose a more significant degree
of financial risk to consumers who purchase coins based upon
Accugrade's determinations than to those consumers who purchase coins
based upon the opinions of more accepted authorities or personal
eductation. I discourage the use of their service and will not
recommend any dealer who adheres to their grading philosophy, nor
promotes Accugrades service as acceptable. BLReed"
But Brad, you are NOBODY. You have no publications in the hobby. You
work as a press operator for a printing plant in North Dakota. You
have no college degree in numismatics. You do not own or operate an
industry recognized auction firm or numismatic dealership. If you are
a member of the ANA, you have not mentioned it and if you are a member
of the PNG or IAPN, I would be astounded. You have never delivered a
Numismatic Theater Presentation at an ANA convention. You have never
taught an ANA Summer Seminar Class. In short, you are no different
than 100,000 coin acquireres who claim that they know more than anyone
else in the hobby about their own self-defined area of speciality.
The subject at hand was the Accugrade boycott in which someone who is
and was involved in litigation warned against suing or getting sued.
Brad's response was to show a callous disregard for good advice offered
in good spirit.
On the other hand, Bob Leonard also made a statement questioning the
reliability of Accugrade. However, Bob cited specific examples, easy
to attribute and validate. He posted a conclusion, however broad, based
on known and knowable facts. And Robert Leonard is "somebody" in the
hobby of numismatics, an established author with a list of citations
going back 30 years or more. The difference is that Bob started with
specifics and formed a generalization and Brad simply blurted out a
sweeping statement with no support.
Again, it is a bit unfair to single out Brad Reed. He is hardly alone
in either his faults or his virtues. My point is that all of us who
participate here could use a dose of humility. Not that it is likely
to do us any good... One of the most refreshing aspects of numismatics
for me, one of the rushes I experience on the bourse floor, is the
monumental EGO that hangs over the hall. Even so, I have to wonder how
well I can tell the difference between EGO and SELF-INTEREST, since
being self-absorbed can prevent learning that pays a profit.
--
We lived in fear of the mountains of Spain
over which we had to fly, and in awe of our elders.
-- Antoine de Saint Exupery
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
Mike Echo Mike
and I cannot swallow the claim by the Undead Byron Reed that he not
Brad Reed, the former COIN WORLD ancillary products manager.
The "bandpreed" and address and now his claim to "25 years" of
experience in the hobby is too much of a coincidence.
And yet... he must have been hit on the head or something, because the
Brad Reed I knew from only a few years ago was a nice guy. This Undead
Byron Reed acts like someone who is about 25 years of age and totally
uncultured.
So, whether the Undead Byron is or is not the Once Living Brad is
perhaps one of those R.W. Julian <> Robert W. Julian; Hermon McNeil <>
Hermon McNeil mysteries that will confuse future generations of
numismatists as it has befuddle me.
Sign me,
Puzzled in Pretoria.
VVALHALLA
flame war!
dendude
Byron L. Reed - Bust Dime Freak
>... and another thing... I have chewed on this for a couple of months,
>and I cannot swallow the claim by the Undead Byron Reed that he not
>Brad Reed, the former COIN WORLD ancillary products manager.
>The "bandpreed" and address and now his claim to "25 years" of
>experience in the hobby is too much of a coincidence.
Boy, a little too much liquid paranoia last night, Mike? If you'd like to come
up here to SOUTH dakota, I'll drop my pants so you can see for yourself that
I'm not the Brad Reed you have an ongoing "thing" with.
BLReed
SARCHASM: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the reader who
doesn't get it.
GOT BUSTS? http://www.byronreed.com/BCTC/home.htm
Mark Greene
Mike Echo Mike <mikeec...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> ... and another thing... I have chewed on this for a couple of months,
> and I cannot swallow the claim by the Undead Byron Reed that he not
> Brad Reed, the former COIN WORLD ancillary products manager.
> The "bandpreed" and address and now his claim to "25 years" of
> experience in the hobby is too much of a coincidence.
If I may borrow from a recently posted arguement, Mr Merrotta, you are
a NOBODY. Do you have a college degree in criminal justice, hold 25
years of investigatory experience as a police office, laywer, or
privated detective? Have you written anything for publication on
indentity tracing and verification, done any presentations on your
tried and proven methods of manhunting?
There's a flip side to every coin, ya know.
--
Mark
Byron L. Reed - Bust Dime Freak
It's Byron, and I'm hurt. :(
>You
>work as a press operator for a printing plant in North Dakota.
Actually I work as a PRE-press operator at a newspaper in SOUTH Dakota.
>You do not own or operate an
>industry recognized auction firm or numismatic dealership.
And, you do?
>If you are
>a member of the ANA, you have not mentioned it and if you are a member
>of the PNG or IAPN, I would be astounded.
I am distinctly NOT an ANA member -- ANYMORE. Nor will I be until they get out
of bed with the very type of SOMEBODIES you look to for guidance.
>in short, you are no different
>than 100,000 coin acquireres who claim that they know more than anyone
>else in the hobby about their own self-defined area of speciality.
I don't think I've ever claimed to "know more than anyone" about anything, do
you have a cite?
I don't claim to be any different from anyone, Mike. Every one of us from the
rankest newbie to the most advanced PNG member has their opinions about the
issues. Why should I temper my comments just because I don't meet your
prerequisites?
No, I haven't done all those things you state to pull me up from the "nobody"
class, but I certainly could If I chose to. But, OTOH, I do have more
experience than most people who post here. I have been collecting since I was
5 years old and am now almost 34. I am the FOURTH generation of my family to
collect coins. I have always had affiliation with SOME collecting organization
or another, holding board or officer positions with a number of them. I did
spend a significant portion of my time in Colorado camping in the ANA Library
(more time, unfortunately, that I spent in most of my college courses). I have
worked in a retail numismatic setting --WITH A PNG DEALER (since that's what
you consider to be the standard) -- who I found to be among the biggest crooks
I've ever known. And, I've never subjugated or formulated my own opinion for
the opinion of someone else who's paying me to do so, like so many of our
crappy numismatic journalists.
I have consistently held on this NG that we should abort the HERO WORSHIP that
goes on in this hobby. The fact that Bob Leonard, or anybody else says "boo"
is irrelevant to my opinion on the matter. Should we all just shut our mouths,
put out hands together, and listen in awe of their majesty simply because of
WHO THEY ARE?
You are the pathetic type of person who is always looking to CYA with someone
else's work -- always looking for a citation here or there to support some
idiotic connection between coins and religion, philosophy, psychology -- or
whatever. You never criticize any of your sources, because then your work is
indefensible, and you're left with zero personal experience on the matter.
You're admittedly not much of a collector, but always willing to tell all of us
where we go wrong.
In short, your entire value system is based upon how many times one's name
appears in the back of a book, rather than how good or bad a person is, what
their intentions are, and what there opinion is. That is not acceptable, as
too often those names are flawed people like Alan Hager, Walter Breen, Mike
Hodder, and Mike Marotta who somehow missed their chance at being good people
because they were swayed by Greed, Lust, Envy, Fame, and the very EGO you
lament.
I'm sorry that my qualifications don't meet your minimum standard, Mike, but I
thank you for thinking I'm at least important enough to single out for
criticism.
Stujoe
band...@aol.com.Roy448 spoke thusly...
>
> I'm sorry that my qualifications don't meet your minimum standard, Mike, but I
> thank you for thinking I'm at least important enough to single out for
> criticism.
Can we start a club. :-)
That was a well reasoned and very good post Byron. Bravo.
BTW and as a humorous (in my mind) observation. Michael has made a
number of posts naming RW Julian in them, then one about me when I had
my sig as SJ Miller and now you BLReed. :-)
--
Stu Miller
My coins may not be pretty but they have great personalities.
The Stujoe Collection, est. 1999
RCC FAQ: http://www.telesphere.com/ts/coins/faq2.html
Steven Preston
Paraphrasing a well known qoute:
"If someone points a finger, there will be three pointing back at him".
You may consider those to be middle fingers. No one, no matter how
important they believe themselves to be, has earned the right to be as
insufferably arrogant as you have just proven yourself to be. You may
not be aware of this, but the most important people in this hobby are
the hobbyists- the vast majority of whom are the great unwashed nobodys
to which you so derisively refer. While most of the posters here are not
a part of the intellectual illuminati of numismatics, it is their
opinions, however flawed you feel them to be, that drive the hobby. You
can expend hundreds of hours trying to prove western assay bars to be a
modern day fabrication and even if you prove your point, it will not
impact the hobby as much as the "nobodys" who warn their fellow
collectors of Accugrade's dubious reputation. Perhaps you need to find
BiggyDogD and join his "serious numismatic forum" so that you need not
trouble yourself with the opinions of those without the credentials you
(and just who are you again- I can't seem to remember reading anything
of yours that mattered) feel are necessary.
-Steven Preston, hobbyist
Deven Atkinson
>In article <20010203131441...@ng-mj1.aol.com>,
>band...@aol.com.Roy448 spoke thusly...
>>
>> I'm sorry that my qualifications don't meet your minimum standard, Mike, but
> I
>> thank you for thinking I'm at least important enough to single out for
>> criticism.
>
>Can we start a club. :-)
>
I bet that qualifies to be in the club.
Deven Atkinson
de...@bright.net
--
http://www.bright.net/~deven/pennylane.htm
The road to all things Numismatic
Mike Echo Mike
Every one of us from the rankest newbie to the most advanced PNG member
has their opinions about the issues. Why should I temper my comments
just because I don't meet your prerequisites?
Mike Echo Mike replied with a stentorian philippic:
Opinions without facts are useless to the rest of us. Oh! Byron does
not like Accugrade. Gee, that a deal breaker, a real show stopper...
Well, YOU posted your officious, fatuous declamation against Accugrade
as if it could be important. It is not. Your opinion is irrelevant
NOT because it is "wrong" but because it is GROUNDLESS. You offered no
substantive support, but expected the sheer VOLUME of the bandwidth you
have wasted here to carry some importance.
Undead Byron >> In short, your entire value system is based upon how
many times one's name appears in the back of a book,
Mikey: No, on the COVER of a book. And that is just ONE standard I
offered. Do you ever EXHIBIT your chesty dismes at ANA conventions?
No, the ANA is in bed with disreputable people. (Other than the
Congress that chartered them, that is...) So, you just buy coins and
look at them. Fine. Millions of people do. However, they do not
presume to post manifestos against businesses.
Undead Byron: ... flawed people like Alan Hager, Walter Breen, Mike
Hodder, and Mike Marotta ...
Thank you! I have locked horns with Mikey H over those silly bars he
is debating about, but I will state here and now that as a RESEARCHER,
he is among the BEST. He might even be the best, since Breen is gone.
You could do well to achieve one-tenth of what Hodder has in
numismatics.
Undead Byron: they were swayed by Greed, Lust, Envy, Fame, and the very
EGO you lament.
Miguel: Obviously, I have been too subtle. You missed the point.
Greed, Fame, Lust, and Ego are VIRTUES. I am an objectivist, a
lifelong admirer of the works of Ayn Rand. You distance yourself from
the very character traits that make humans better than apes, if not so
good as angels. GREED! I watched Wall Street often enough to copy
down Gecko's Greed speech. Greed is good. (Envy is bad. But you miss
the difference between Envy and Imitation: "If he can, I can, too."
Envy is "He did, but I'll take it from him." This is less subtle than
the difference between egoTism and Egoism.)
Marotta's Manifesto on Accugrade: Alan Hager might have a raft of
personality traits that would not commend him to the Saturday Night
Live Church Lady. However, he has built a profitable business by
supplying to people something they want at a price they are willing to
pay. That is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
Peter T. Davis
Byron,
I was just wondering if you'd second my motion to select the initiator of
this thread as the RCC 'Jackass of the Week'
;-)
Peter
smedley
> Marotta's Manifesto on Accugrade: Alan Hager might have a raft of
> personality traits that would not commend him to the Saturday Night
> Live Church Lady. However, he has built a profitable business by
> supplying to people something they want at a price they are willing to
> pay. That is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
>
>
Until they go to sell that something and find out nobody wants it at that
price...
RLWinnetka
>is irrelevant to my opinion on the matter. Should we all just shut our
>mouths,
>put out hands together, and listen in awe of their majesty simply because of
>WHO THEY ARE?
Please, Byron, while I am flattered by Michael Mariotta's comments, I am a
little annoyed that he elected to hold me up as a grading expert superior to
youself. Yes, I've been collecting a long time, etc., etc., but I'm sure that
you are an expert grader of bust type half dollars; I haven't bought one for
decades. My remarks in re Accugrade were based simply on reviewing their own
ad in Coin World.
Bob Leonard
Robert Leonard
"Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man,
and he will increase in learning."--Proverbs 9:9
Stujoe
spoke thusly...
> In article <MPG.14e60af24...@news.supernews.com>, Stujoe <stu...@NONADASPAMprodigy.net> wrote:
> >In article <20010203131441...@ng-mj1.aol.com>,
> >band...@aol.com.Roy448 spoke thusly...
> >>
> >> I'm sorry that my qualifications don't meet your minimum standard, Mike, but
> > I
> >> thank you for thinking I'm at least important enough to single out for
> >> criticism.
> >
> >Can we start a club. :-)
> >
> I collected from pocket change and circulated rolls only for 25 years.
> I bet that qualifies to be in the club.
Sorry Deven, only if Michael makes a post about you being representative
of a problem with coin collecting and/or coin collectors.
Hint: If you change your sig file to "D? Atkinson", your odds of being
able to join rise astronomically. ;-)
nj...@my-deja.com
> band...@aol.com.Roy448 spoke thusly...
> >
> > I'm sorry that my qualifications don't meet your minimum standard,
Mike, but I
> > thank you for thinking I'm at least important enough to single out
for
> > criticism.
>
> Can we start a club. :-)
>
> That was a well reasoned and very good post Byron. Bravo.
>
> BTW and as a humorous (in my mind) observation. Michael has made a
> number of posts naming RW Julian in them, then one about me when I
had
> my sig as SJ Miller and now you BLReed. :-)
(((I have read many a rebuttal ,but it is only so often you are graced
with the opportunity to view so many beautiful parentheticals that
actually stay on topic. Yes I agree "Bravo BLReed" Bravo indeed.)))
Nexus 6
<mikeec...@my-deja.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Undead Byron: they were swayed by Greed, Lust, Envy, Fame, and the very
>EGO you lament.
>
>Miguel: Obviously, I have been too subtle. You missed the point.
>Greed, Fame, Lust, and Ego are VIRTUES. I am an objectivist, a
>lifelong admirer of the works of Ayn Rand.
No wonder you sound so familiar. Not too mention
condescending, arrogant, elitist, and dull.
Ayn Rand.
*Sheesh*
Nexus 6
======================
"No more miracles
Loaves and fishes
Been so busy
With the washing of the dishes"
Steven Preston
>Marotta's Manifesto on Accugrade: Alan Hager
>might have a raft of personality traits that would
>not commend him to the Saturday Night Live
>Church Lady. However, he has built a profitable
>business by supplying to people something
>they want at a price they are willing to pay. That
>is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
If you believe that to be the noblest human endeavor then you have all
the depth of a puddle after a 2 minute drizzle. At first I thought you
to be merely odd- someone who has a personality a little more than 3
standard deviations beyond the mean. Now that I see your value system, I
realize that you are to be pitied. I apologize for my earlier remarks as
I did not know just how miserable you already are. Just as I would
refrain from telling someone severely depressed that their only friend
in the world has just died, I will refrain from insulting you until I
feel that I can insult someone like you without feeling guilty.
-Steve
Phil
>>Marotta's Manifesto on Accugrade: Alan Hager
>>might have a raft of personality traits that would
>>not commend him to the Saturday Night Live
>>Church Lady. However, he has built a profitable
>>business by supplying to people something
>>they want at a price they are willing to pay. That
>>is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
You must have forgotten to end with a smiley because this is the most
hillarious statement I've read in weeks.
If you are serious please replace "hillarious" with "pathetic".
++++++++++
Phil DeMayo
When Bidding Online
Always Sit On Your Helmet
Richard Adams
Mike Echo Mike wrote:
[snip]
> Marotta's Manifesto on Accugrade: Alan Hager might have a raft of
> personality traits that would not commend him to the Saturday Night
> Live Church Lady. However, he has built a profitable business by
> supplying to people something they want at a price they are willing to
> pay.
So does a pimp.
> That is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
Ergo, pimpdome is among the noblest of human endeavors.
Mike, if you find this not in accordance with your way of thinking, then
please feel free to shut the hell up until you can think rationally
enough to write thoughtfully. I had three beers before reading your
post and see this gaping hole in logic (unless you feel, beyond morals
and mores that Laissez-faire and pursuant drug dealing, pyramid schemes
and slavery, are by definition noble.) Please keep it succint, not all
of us have an entire day to read through your posts to get to your
point.
--
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* Richard Adams, ANA R-195237 ackthpt(at)concentric.net *
* Free IQ Test:Insert Quarter Here -> ========= *
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Ed Eubanks 98-IP
Opinions without facts are useless to the rest of us. >>
It is not a fact....that you are on your way.....to becoming an opinion....
Ed
R&V Childers
I can't pass along the honor until ALL nominations have been received.
The expiration date will be sunday evening (2/4/01) for any additional
names.
Ian Milne
Mike Echo Mike wrote:
> However, he has built a profitable business by
> supplying to people something they want at a price they are willing to
> pay. That is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
>
Oh dear. I suppose you could say that about Al Capone. Indeed about
anyone standing on a street corner peddling dope or prostitution. Not
particularly `virtuous' (noble) is it?
May I remind you of the `the moon is made of green cheese' retort.
A suitable rejoinder might well be that `if ACG is involved in the
noblest endeavours then `the moon (at least the bits that haven't yet
been stood on or explored) is made of green cheese.' Where is your proof
of `virtue'? Indeed can it be proven, and if so at what cost?
There are always two sides to any arguement. However, you cannot (with
impunity) criticise the lambasting of one side of the arguement in the
absence of any `virtue' for the other. Nor is it safe for the reader (or
writer) to assume that there IS any virtue in `being of service' merely
because a `service' is being provided.
We can all escape behind `logic' type arguements, but we can't escape
from the evidence presented in front of our eyes. Byron has seen it with
his own eyes, as have I, and as have many others on this NG. I suspect
you have too (but you are either just being arguementative for the sake
of it, or you are perhaps in denial).
:o)
Ian
David Ryan
>
> Sorry, but he can't have the honor just yet. As last weeks JOTW nominee,
> I can't pass along the honor until ALL nominations have been received.
> The expiration date will be sunday evening (2/4/01) for any additional
> names.
Can I nominate myself? I nearly won SSotM (Saddle Sore of the Month)
over in rec.bicycles.racing once. Surely perennial tactlessness is
worth something?
--
... tact ... must remember. Not.
note.boy
read and follow threads from different posters? Billy
John Long
ago. I'm not trying hard enough.
John
On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 05:26:57 -0500, David Ryan <David...@adware.com>
wrote:
Richard Adams
--
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* Richard Adams, ANA r-195237 ackthpt(at)concentric.net *
Reid Goldsborough
(Steven Preston) wrote:
>You may
>not be aware of this, but the most important people in this hobby are
>the hobbyists- the vast majority of whom are the great unwashed nobodys
>to which you so derisively refer. While most of the posters here are not
>a part of the intellectual illuminati of numismatics, it is their
>opinions, however flawed you feel them to be, that drive the hobby.
Not that Mad Mouth Mike, aka the Bubble Burster, needs defending (and
why do I feel compelled to defend him?), but there is a pecking order
in numismatics, like anywhere else. This authority/expertise hierarchy
would come into play, for instance, in a court case or a hearing of a
government agency. The opinions of people with formal credentials are
weighed more heavily in these instances.
--
Draped Busts: http://www.draped-busts.com
Ian Milne
Jury was out on it, but you seemed to withdraw from the awards before a
decision was made. Your nomination was therefore withdrawn.
Things have been fairly lively around here the past few days. Next time
there's a quiet spell, you can always try again if you are up for it,
but you will have to do a tad better the next time. :o)
Ian
John Long
John
On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:51:16 GMT, Ian Milne <imb...@cableinet.co.uk>
wrote:
Steven Preston
>Can I nominate myself (for jackass of the
>week)? I nearly won SSotM (Saddle Sore of the
>Month) over in rec.bicycles.racing once. Surely
>perennial tactlessness is worth something?
No. By asking to nominate yourself, you have shown that you still
possess the very faintest vestige of humility (believe me, we were all
surprised :) and are therefore eligible only for the Totally Wanting In
Tact award or TWIT for short :-)
-Steve, yes we have no tact, we have no tact today.
Steven Preston
>Not that Mad Mouth Mike, aka the Bubble
>Burster, needs defending (and why do I feel
>compelled to defend him?), but there is a
>pecking order in numismatics, like anywhere
>else. This authority/expertise hierarchy would
>come into play, for instance, in a court case or
>a hearing of a government agency. The
>opinions of people with formal credentials are
>weighed more heavily in these instances.
Reid, I agree with you as far as your example goes. However, in the case
of Inaccurategrade, there is only the opinion of those who have seen ACG
graded coins to serve as "evidence". For something as subjective as coin
grading (where even different experts often disagree- even on matters of
something as seemingly straightforward as authenticity), the difference
in weight from an expert's opinion to that of an experienced amateur is
going to be less dramatic than in most other fields. Even though there
may be a pecking order, it does not excuse Mike from shoving his beak
down anyone else's throat. I appreciate the reason behind your post, I
simply feel that what "Mad Mouth Mike" wrote is indefensible.
-Steve
Brian Harmon
<mikeec...@my-deja.com> wrote:
[..]
> And yet... he must have been hit on the head or something, because the
> Brad Reed I knew from only a few years ago was a nice guy. This Undead
> Byron Reed acts like someone who is about 25 years of age and totally
> uncultured.
[..]
Really? He seems a lot more polite than you.
--
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu>
==================================
http://msg.ucsf.edu/~harmon/fish.html
Byron L. Reed - Bust Dime Freak
No! Let's save him for a special Jackass Lifetime Achievement Award.
BLReed
SARCHASM: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the reader who
doesn't get it.
GOT BUSTS? http://www.byronreed.com/BCTC/home.htm
Byron L. Reed - Bust Dime Freak
>Greed, Fame, Lust, and Ego are VIRTUES. I am an objectivist, a
>the very character traits that make humans better than apes, if not so
>good as angels. GREED! I watched Wall Street often enough to copy
>down Gecko's Greed speech. Greed is good. (Envy is bad. But you miss
>the difference between Envy and Imitation: "If he can, I can, too."
>Envy is "He did, but I'll take it from him." This is less subtle than
>the difference between egoTism and Egoism.)
No. You miss our point. I did not claim that those traits are UNVIRTUOUS.
Greed is good. Ego, Lust, and Fame can be VIRTUOUS to the extent that they
combine with Greed to generate success, while not denying TRUTH. They can
however, combine to become the deepest color of EVIL when the talented are
swayed into UNTRUTH. Truth is undeniable; ignorable perhaps, but undeniable.
Alan Hager's crime is not his personality traits, but rather the untruth that
arises therefrom. Rather than running a backwater grading service, he could
have utilized Greed & Friends. to provide a TRUTHFUL product, rather than the
UNTRUTHFUL. He didn't chose to. There is no virtue in that.
Byron L. Reed - Bust Dime Freak
another. You're name was just the one he chose to use, because you must meet
his minimum standards. Believe me, my response would have been exactly the
same had your name been Walter Breen, David Bowers, or Joe Blow and wasn't
intended in any way to denigrate your position or ability.
He seems to equate publicity with aptitude and verbosity with veracity, while
ignoring the substance of the issues. He is a parasite, and he's using the two
of us to add another segment.
BLReed
>Please, Byron, while I am flattered by Michael Mariotta's comments, I am a
>little annoyed that he elected to hold me up as a grading expert superior to
>youself.
BLReed
R&V Childers
R&V Childers
revisionist history. What was yours?
Bob C.
JSTONEFEEL
Mike Echo Mike <mikeec...@my-deja.com> wrote:
<<major snip>>
That is in and of itself the noblest human endeavor.
========================
Excuse me, are you the one that cranks out those flaccid monographs;
(the) Money Talks?
If so, I can't think of a more a pathetic ending to a really 25 watt
career.
Maybe the screamers on Shop At Home need a copy writer behind the
scenes?
Best of luck......
=======================
Sunog11
hisopinion of accugrade.
Tim
>just because he is not an expert that does not mean that he is entitled to his
opinion of accugrade.>
Huh?
Expert or not, he is entitled. Especially here. But what you're saying is
that the only non experts are allowed an opinion.
-- Dobac
Steven Preston
>>just because he is not an expert that does not
>>mean that he is entitled to his
>>opinion of accugrade.
>From: Dobac
>Huh?
>Expert or not, he is entitled. Especially here.
>But what you're saying is that the only non
>experts are allowed an opinion.
Good grief Tim- you should be able to figure out that Sunog omitted the
word "not" between "is" and "entitled" from the tenor of the post.
Before telling people what they're saying, perhaps you should try
improving your comprehension skills.
-Steve, who now knows what it's like to be Phil
(love of Jaguars excepted)